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PEE Poll: So what did you think?
1/10   -4 (5.4%)
2/10   -1 (1.4%)
3/10   -1 (1.4%)
4/10   -2 (2.7%)
5/10   -2 (2.7%)
6/10   -7 (9.5%)
7/10   -17 (23%)
8/10   -11 (14.9%)
9/10   -18 (24.3%)
10/10   -11 (14.9%)
Total Voters: 74

cyber_turnip

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« Reply #40 on: 08-31-2012 00:00 »

Having watched it, I don't feel any better about the basic concept but it was pretty funny, I admit. OK, I quite enjoyed it.

I mean, it's weak by Futurama's overall standards but, sadly, it's quite easily one of the best episodes of 7A for me. That's a bad reflection on 7A rather than a positive reflection on this episode, but yeah, I didn't think it was bad.

The storylines were enjoyable enough. The novelty didn't wear too thin. And like I said, I found it funny enough. Plus, I suppose, good on the show for daring to try new things.
jtleyko
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« Reply #41 on: 08-31-2012 00:01 »

 I thought that this was the best three parter other than reincarnation.  I loved the PBS references and seeing all the characters re imagined as animals was great.  I loved Zoidberg in all of his forms just hilarious, "hey I'm here with friends-- aggh!".  And the romances played into nature were adorable. For those of you comparing it to the holiday spectacular, shame on you.   no no
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #42 on: 08-31-2012 00:45 »

Oh on a rewatch, one of the elephant seals sounds just like Munda, but I'm guessing it wasn't meant to be a cameo since the seal has two eyes.

I swear it was either Ruth or Esther.

No it clearly sounded like Tress McNeille, so it wasn't Ruth, and it wasn't grating enough to be Esther.  I mean I did think it was Esther the first time I watched it ,but it sounds more like Munda.  I don't think it was meant to be a cameo of any sort, and it was just Tress McNeille talking like Tress McNeille.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #43 on: 08-31-2012 01:31 »
« Last Edit on: 08-31-2012 01:33 »

I hate to say it, but this was really one of the very worst episodes of the series.

I'll never understand why these animated shows think we want to see the characters play dress-up as other character or things or...whatever. In this case, talking animals. I loved Reincarnation, but the characters were still "themselves," just through a different lens and style. Who really wants to see these characters as fish? Aside from the dirty jokes and subject matter, it just feels way too Saturday morning cartoon to me.

There were a couple laughs ("we're all friends on the beach!") but....for the most part I just kind of found myself staring at it blankly. Not many jokes landed. I'm not upset by it, but this is honestly the first episode since the show came back that I find to be outright terrible (not there haven't been a few mediocre ones) and would prefer not to watch again.

Thankfully, 31st Century Fox was much, much better.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #44 on: 08-31-2012 02:45 »

really funny episode.  Reminded me of those looney tunes nature show parodies, as well as Ren and Stimpy.
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« Reply #45 on: 08-31-2012 03:35 »

Absolutely terrible. I hate this episode along with the other 3-part special. They are the bottom two rated for me.
Several reasons I hate this episode are; I prefer having human characters through the story, nature stories suck and the jokes and puns were not funny.
I don't watch futurama to see absolutely stupid nature stories with horrid narration. "Nobody knows!!!!" - seriously??
The episodes are getting worse and worse and if dumb episodes like this keep being put out I hope Futurama gets canceled.
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #46 on: 08-31-2012 04:44 »

If you can't live with an offbeat episode once per season, go be boring someplace else. They do this stuff for the fun of it, and in order to act out scenarios that ordinarily don't fit in with the show.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #47 on: 08-31-2012 05:03 »

That complaint might hold some validity if every episode was like this.

I agree with TheMadCrapper. I don't particularly long for these non-canon three parters in general, but 1 out of 13 episodes isn't a huge deal.
Imy

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« Reply #48 on: 08-31-2012 07:33 »

2/10


I just didn't enjoy it, as much as I tried.
Fnord
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« Reply #49 on: 08-31-2012 08:30 »

It might have been more interesting with one segment of Futurama-characters-as-animals, and then two other ideas (Perhaps exploring the other universes discovered in the Farnsworth Parabox?)

Or maybe other alien species, like the Yarn People of Nylar 4.

I actually considered shutting off the TV after the second segment. (I had things to do afterwards.)
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #50 on: 08-31-2012 09:32 »

Robert Plant - Sea of Love
MuchAdo

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« Reply #51 on: 08-31-2012 09:36 »
« Last Edit on: 08-31-2012 09:47 »

I voted a 7/10.. but then I rewatched it and now I believe it deserves an 8.5/10.

It was actually quite enjoyable and a nice break from the regular stories/series.

Phil LaMarr's narration had some of the best jokes I've heard in a long time.

"And so the endless cycle of life comes to an end - meaningless and grim.
Why did they live and why did they die? No reason.

For in the end, nature is horrific and teaches us nothing."

And points for the Pinta Island Tortoise story, as I guess they really just did go extinct in June.

It was bold and refreshing entertainment and the higher than average 7A nielson ratings and mostly good reviews reflect that.

 
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #52 on: 08-31-2012 11:54 »

Having had time to reflect on things, I wish they hadn't done two aquatic species. It would have given the show a bit more variety.
Jarvio

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« Reply #53 on: 08-31-2012 12:35 »

Were the 3 baby tortoises supposed to be Mom's 3 sons? If so, would this suggest that the professor is not only the father of Igner, but the other 2 as well? (I know it's non-cannon, but food for thought)...
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« Reply #54 on: 08-31-2012 12:45 »

Were the 3 baby tortoises supposed to be Mom's 3 sons? If so, would this suggest that the professor is not only the father of Igner, but the other 2 as well? (I know it's non-cannon, but food for thought)...

It is also heavily implied that it is Wernstrom who is their father.  I think they were merely used for the joke, because it made sense for Mom to have her sons as offspring.

I do not think this is a wise episode to conclude any subtle hints regarding canon.  If it turns out he is the father of the other two sons, then I still do not believe that we should have used this argument to speculate that.

But considering how the reveal is set up in Bender's Game, I sincerely doubt that is the case.  But not to pile on your 'theory', I did actually think that for a bit; 'how weird is it that Farnsworth's offspring are Mom's sons', but then I concluded it was for the rule of funny.
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #55 on: 08-31-2012 12:56 »

Brace yourselves, framegrabs a-hoy! (my normal site wasn't working, so I used another one so sorry about forgetting to crop out some black borders ><



Already have. I walked into the lounge to find Mum was watching a show about whales and I mentioned 'whale barf', 'ambergris' and 'perfume' about ten seconds before the narrator of the whale show basically repeated what I'd just said.
Mum was like 'dafuq did you know that?'
I said 'I'm a whale biologist, lol jokes, Futurama taught me - it's educational, you know.'
Mum just looked at me strangely.

Opening title was awesome, good to see Mr. Peppy~ <3 or at least Mr. Peppys' species represented.

Act 1: "I'm born, baby!"

Upon watching this at the start, I didn't even realise Leela wasn't there *facepalm* I do like their design and the gags (albeit, they weren't that clever - maybe I'm just hyped up on sugar or something and therefore giggling at everything).

Hyperchicken er, herron? whatever, wasn't funny, but it was fun to see randoms like HedonismBot (Oh my!) and a few others during the journey. Great narration (through the entire ep), and good pacing.

Lobster Zoidberg [supposedly] eats Scruffy:

but then Scruffy is seen later with the others:

Continuity error?

Backtracking a little (you thought I'd skip the shippy? xD)
Enjoyed Zapp being rejected and the montage:


Was strongly reminded of the otter section from Parasites Lost:


Animals are not really how I like the characters portrayed, but I can appreciate the artistic license of this episode. I prefer the otters though ~ <3

*disappointed we don't get to see what their children look like* never mind, a happy ending for a salmon.

Act 2: "Blue Footed Boobie!"


Bwahahaha! An uplifting start, maybe I am too hyper, found the whole start of this hilarious.

Was trying to get a frame grab where Fry-bird and Leela-bird weren't blinking and proceeded to notice a little gem I missed first time around: Fry cocks his head and totally checks Leela-bird out while she's talking.



Blink and you'll miss it.

Moving on, cause this isn't Fry/Leela - it's the Profs story, speaking of the Prof, there doesn't appear to be much room in his shell cause his tortoise body takes that all up, so then how does Bender fit in there? - never mind all the birdies:


Lol at Amy being eaten xD

Dafaq you doing, Fry?


The time montage was impressive, at least I thought so.

The next part not so much ><

Their expressions sum up what my expression was like, although there was a lot more wincing on my part.


Act 3: "40% ass"

Best parts:
Nibbler cameo

Seriously, is this the only ep he's been in this season? Not good >< I'm hoping he's going to feature in an episode in the rest of the seasons run!

Shippy:


Kif standing up for himself:

(although with disastrous consequences, but I don't think there would have been any other way to confront Bender)
Although at this point I realised that the other males were going to mate behind Benders back xD

This is very cute:

But who mothered them?! There's no indication of who the mothers of those pups were.
(Also, I thought Randi was gay?)
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #56 on: 08-31-2012 14:54 »
« Last Edit on: 08-31-2012 14:55 »

He's gay, but I guess he still has the instinct to pass on his genes.

Doesn't matter because everyone dies in the end anyway, after the Omicronians go Alderaan on the planet's ass.

I would have liked to have seen Fry's pup have one eye, and for there to be seals that look like Mom and Labarbs.

And how ridiculously cute was Bird Amy?  I was sorry that she got eaten, even if it was hilarious. 
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #57 on: 08-31-2012 15:55 »

Is it weird that I find the baby Hermes seal to be the cutest?
Boxy Robot

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« Reply #58 on: 08-31-2012 17:08 »

Is it weird that I find the baby Hermes seal to be the cutest?

Extremely  tongue
DannyJC13

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« Reply #59 on: 08-31-2012 17:29 »

The baby Randy seal reminds me of Butters from South Park. laff
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #60 on: 08-31-2012 17:47 »

Something else that bugged my just came to mind.

Nothing about this episode relates to the fact that this show is set in the future or that it's sci-fi (short of it being an Omicronian production).

At least one of the segments should have been about some weird new future or alien species and their biology. It would have made for a much more creative bit of science fiction rather than something that, fair enough, could easily have been done with The Simpsons.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #61 on: 08-31-2012 17:52 »
« Last Edit on: 08-31-2012 17:53 »

At least one of the segments should have been about some weird new future or alien species and their biology. It would have made for a much more creative bit of science fiction rather than something that, fair enough, could easily have been done with The Simpsons.

I actually thought about that yesterday, but wouldn't it kind of make the casual viewer flick over or whatever?

No wait, it makes sense. Omicronians get Earth TV shows like a 1000 years later. They've just put the show's character's into the form of the animals.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #62 on: 08-31-2012 18:20 »

That makes less sense. That would mean that Earth produced the documentary for Omicronians in 2012 which, obviously, we didn't.

I thought the implication was that the documentary had been made by Omicronians for Omicronians rather than by Earthicans.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #63 on: 08-31-2012 18:21 »

I thought it was just the Omicronian network or whatever.
Zed 85

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« Reply #64 on: 08-31-2012 18:38 »

And points for the Pinta Island Tortoise story, as I guess they really just did go extinct in June.

I noticed a dedicated to Lonesome George right at the end of the credits. Seems silly that an episode of Futurama is technically out of date before it's even aired tongue

Quite enjoyed this one. Animation was superb, some of the plot points were really sweetly done and there were plenty of funny bits for me.

8/10
DannyJC13

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« Reply #65 on: 08-31-2012 20:45 »

I noticed a dedicated to Lonesome George right at the end of the credits. Seems silly that an episode of Futurama is technically out of date before it's even aired tongue

For some reason, I don't think it was meant to be set in the future. hmpf
Zed 85

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« Reply #66 on: 08-31-2012 22:08 »

I just mean the fact that it bases the Galapagos storyline on a particular turtle and predicts how its race may end up extinct anyway...and that particular turtle dies before the episode even airs.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #67 on: 08-31-2012 22:16 »

I just mean the fact that it bases the Galapagos storyline on a particular turtle and predicts how its race may end up extinct anyway...and that particular turtle dies before the episode even airs.

Well these episodes were written in like early to mid-2011. tongue
Zed 85

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« Reply #68 on: 08-31-2012 22:27 »

Yes I knever mind
DotheBartman

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« Reply #69 on: 09-01-2012 01:20 »

If you can't live with an offbeat episode once per season, go be boring someplace else. They do this stuff for the fun of it, and in order to act out scenarios that ordinarily don't fit in with the show.

I enjoy most of the trilogies. I even like Holiday Spectacular okay. It's not amazing, but it's watchable. And the Anthology of Interests and Reincarnation are fantastic.

This particular one is just really poor to me. Not many jokes landed and I don't really feel it used the show's characters, setting, etc in any meaningful way. I don't mind them going off the wall with weirdness or going non-canon, but I just want it to be funny when they do.

This was an idea that just didn't really work, IMO.
spira

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« Reply #70 on: 09-01-2012 03:53 »

I thought this was great, actually. I gave it a 9/10. I went in expecting it to suck and was very pleasantly surprised. Mostly I just really liked seeing all the characters drawn as animals, especially all the character cameos. LaMarche's narration was hilarious. I absolutely loved the birds in the second segment. Nothing in here was laugh-out-loud funny, but it was all amusing and a fun romp.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #71 on: 09-01-2012 13:45 »

Something else that bugged my just came to mind.

Nothing about this episode relates to the fact that this show is set in the future or that it's sci-fi (short of it being an Omicronian production).

At least one of the segments should have been about some weird new future or alien species and their biology. It would have made for a much more creative bit of science fiction rather than something that, fair enough, could easily have been done with The Simpsons.
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Yeah, that kind of bugged me as well.   There was nothing future-y or sci-fi-ey about this at all.  I think they could have explained this in the opening commentary, without it cutting into the segments too much:

That the Omicronians have attacked and destroyed Earth civilization, and killed all of Earth's citizens.   Meaning that every major or recurring Futurama character in NNY is now dead.  This episode takes a few centuries after this event, when Earth is returning to its primal state, and everyone we see here is a reincarnation (since it takes place a few centuries into the future this could be why we see Lrr and Ndnd reincarnated in bear form).   The Omicronians at the beginning could sneer at the very concept of reincarnation in the opening, despite the viewers knowing otherwise when we see the characters in animal form.  The Omicronians have declared Earth a wildlife sanctuary and are filming there.    We could also have all of this not outright stated in the opening, but we could see plenty of ruins (including the obligatory shout out to Planet of the Apes) dotting the landscape.     Or we could have it take place sometime after the year 10,000 when Earth civilisation has bitten the dust on its own, but would come to the same conclusion (Earth society has crumbled, every character has been long dead and post-apocalyptic Earth is returning to a wild state.)

In the end the Omicronians declare EARTH WILDLIFE IS MEANINGLESS AND DEPRESSING! and destroy the planet.   

Now it's sort of sci-fi and a bit more Futuramy.  Maybe.
spira

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« Reply #72 on: 09-01-2012 16:10 »

Earth society has crumbled, every character has been long dead and post-apocalyptic Earth is returning to a wild state.

A good idea. I wouldn't want them to dwell on this too much, but a minute or so explaining this with the Narrator's opening credits (or maybe even including something to this effect instead of the other Naturama opening they played in the title sequence) would have been nice.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #73 on: 09-01-2012 16:49 »

Omicronians have attacked and destroyed Earth civilization, and killed all of Earth's citizens.   Meaning that every major or recurring Futurama character in NNY is now dead.

I'd actually like to see this as the final resolution to the series. If they could make it fit with the various futures seen in TLPJF, I think it would be an oddly fitting finale to Futurama.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #74 on: 09-01-2012 18:46 »

Omicronians have attacked and destroyed Earth civilization, and killed all of Earth's citizens.   Meaning that every major or recurring Futurama character in NNY is now dead.

I'd actually like to see this as the final resolution to the series. If they could make it fit with the various futures seen in TLPJF, I think it would be an oddly fitting finale to Futurama.

That'd be pretty terrible in my opinion, it's kind of like "We dragged you through 7 (or more) seasons of ups and downs and whatnot, but in the end it doesn't really matter what the fuck happened 'cause they're all dead."

It's kind of like making the end of the Xmas segment from TFHS canon...
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #75 on: 09-01-2012 19:48 »

Isn't that what happens in real life, though? After a bunch of ups and downs, you die.

It's nothing like making TFHS canon. It's more like wrapping up all the loose ends by saying "THE STORY IS NOW OVER".
DannyJC13

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« Reply #76 on: 09-01-2012 22:07 »

I can't tell if the seal next to Leela that says "What's the matter with you? You just crushed seven of our babies!" is a known character or just a generic seal, it looks pretty generic but the voice seems familiar. Of course it could just be a super similar voice to one of Tress' other characters.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #77 on: 09-01-2012 23:38 »

Earth society has crumbled, every character has been long dead and post-apocalyptic Earth is returning to a wild state.

A good idea. I wouldn't want them to dwell on this too much, but a minute or so explaining this with the Narrator's opening credits (or maybe even including something to this effect instead of the other Naturama opening they played in the title sequence) would have been nice.

Yeah, I was thinking that.  Like nothing too obvious but even the obligatory Planet of the Apes shout out would give enough away without spelling it out.  Have a few shots of the salmon swimming through a partially submerged monorail carriage or some cars, and maybe a big mac that hasn't aged or decomposed at all, and we've got our post-apoclyptic earth setting down all pot.

I don't think it's any character Danny.  I thought it sounded like Esther, and on a rewatch it sounded like a dead ringer for Munda, but since the seal has two eyes, I don't think it's meant to be anyone.  Which is a massive shame, because I wanted to see all of Bender's girlfriends and floozies in elephant seal form.
robodog

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« Reply #78 on: 09-02-2012 19:58 »

Why make the characters animals? Is someone on the Futurama writing staff secretly a furry? Seriously though, it wasn't really a bad episode. I enjoyed it for what it was. I also wonder why there wasn't really anything science fictiony about it. It seemed a bit too far removed from the basic premise of the series.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #79 on: 09-02-2012 20:06 »

I don't think anyone's a furry.  if that was the case, we'd have seen them as wolves or foxes or cats, rather then salmon and tortoises.
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