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Hans_Davidson
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« on: 08-22-2012 09:50 »

As we all know, production season six provided some real gems, but also proved remarkably inconsistent, sinking to depths that put original run clunkers to shame. As an experiment, I chopped the episode order in half and culled thirteen choice episodes to assemble my hypothetical season six. What do you all think? Would there be any complaints about the revival if this had been the first season we got? I left the episodes in chronological order, but they could be shuffled around a bit to make the beginning of the season less "death" heavy.

1. Rebirth
2. Lethal Inspection
3. The Late Philip J. Fry
4. That Darn Katz!
5. The Prisoner of Benda
6. The Mutants are Revolting
7. The Silence of the Clamps
8. Law and Oracle
9. The Tip of the Zoidberg
10. Fry am the Egg Man
11. Cold Warriors
12. Overclockwise
13. Reincarnation
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #1 on: 08-22-2012 12:10 »

Yeah, that looks about right to me. I would probably replace "That Darn Katz!" with "Mobius Dick", and maybe "The Tip of the Zoidberg" with "Benderama" (although that's mainly because I'm not a huge fan of the former).

But yeah, those are mainly the ones I'd choose if I needed to select 13 for some raisin. One problem though, is the characters aren't very evenly spread. Observe:

1. Fry/Leela
2. Bender/Hermes
3. Fry/Leela
4. Amy
5. Everyone
6. Fry/Leela
7. Bender
8. Fry
9. Zoidberg/Professor
10. Fry
11. Fry
12. Bender
13. Everyone

That would essentially turn it into "The Fry show" (although to be honest, I wouldn't mind that given how Season 7 has been so far). There isn't much Leela, which is another reason I think Mobius would go in nicely.

DannyJC13

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« Reply #2 on: 08-22-2012 16:40 »

4. Amy

That could be Amy/Nibbler.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #3 on: 08-22-2012 18:27 »


That would essentially turn it into "The Fry show" (although to be honest, I wouldn't mind that given how Season 7 has been so far).

^This


There isn't much Leela, which is another reason I think Mobius would go in nicely.

* Inquisitor Hein looks at UnrealLegend and sadly shakes his head no no
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #4 on: 08-23-2012 03:34 »

Mobius wasn't all bad...

UnrealLegend

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« Reply #5 on: 08-23-2012 04:01 »


That would essentially turn it into "The Fry show" (although to be honest, I wouldn't mind that given how Season 7 has been so far).

^This


There isn't much Leela, which is another reason I think Mobius would go in nicely.

* Inquisitor Hein looks at UnrealLegend and sadly shakes his head no no

It's either that or YLL or IAGDL. Not really a hard choice if you ask me. And anyway, MD is widely considered to be a good episode.
Hans_Davidson
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« Reply #6 on: 08-23-2012 05:39 »

There were three "lesser" episodes I considered to be in contention for two spots: Fry am the Egg Man, That Darn Katz!, and Mobius Dick. I picked Egg Man almost entirely due to my soft spot for the line "Bullets make you talk?!", I picked Katz because it comprises the only notable screen time Nibbler got all season, and I ultimately left out Mobius because, despite some interesting backstory, I disliked how out of character I perceived Leela to be in the episode. Nonetheless, replacing Fry am the Egg Man with Mobius Dick might help balance out the hypothetical season a bit more.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #7 on: 08-23-2012 11:49 »
« Last Edit on: 08-23-2012 11:50 »

Not sure what the point of this experiment is? The hypothetical season is on average better than the two separate halves of Season 6, but almost anyone would swap an episode here or there for a different one regardless, as some already have above. I certainly wouldn't have picked the same exact choices as the original poster either, but it's not a bad sample...

What does it prove though? That you can make a hypothetical better season by cherry picking certain episodes out of a batch of episodes? If that's the case then you could do exactly the same thing with the original seasons. Imagine cherry picking 13 of the better episodes from Season 3, it would be a pretty damn good hypothetical season, and arguably far better than this. I'm not going to though, not sure what the point in doing that would be...
DannyJC13

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« Reply #8 on: 08-23-2012 12:34 »

There is nothing wrong with Mobius Dick at all. ('Cept maybe Leela, but that's it.)
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #9 on: 08-23-2012 12:44 »

Möbius Dick is a good episode, a great episode in fact, especially when you consider it's a newer episode. Thing is, doesn't matter if it's good or bad because no matter what it is...

Gorky

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« Reply #10 on: 08-23-2012 15:24 »

Damn, does that bird got swag.

Anyway, I think this is an interesting idea, Hans. Your proposed thirteen-episode season would have been a lot better than 6B was, at least; it probably would have been right on-par with 6A, though, which I think of as slightly less enjoyable than season three (though it has approximately the same ratio of hits-to-misses as the sometimes-uneven third season does). Hmmm...when I average it all out, 6B actually comes out slightly ahead of 6A. Which is strange, because I seem to recall 6B as a particularly excruciating season to slough through--presumably because it was front-loaded with average-to-shitty episodes, and the truly enjoyable stuff didn't come in until the last three or four weeks of the season.

In any event: for kicks, I can rank seasons 6A and 6B separately, and then compare that to the handpicked season six you're proposing, to see if it would have made such a big difference...

Season 6A
Rebirth - 7.5/10
In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela - 7/10
Attack of the Killer App - 8/10
Proposition Infinity - 3/10
The Duh-Vinci Code - 7.5/10
Lethal Inspection - 10/10
The Late Philip J. Fry - 10/10
That Darn Katz! - 6/10
A Clockwork Origin - 7/10
The Prisoner of Benda - 10/10
Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences - 7/10
The Mutants Are Revolting - 8/10
The Futurama Holiday Spectacular - 5/10
Overall Rating: 7.3/10

Season 6B
The Silence of the Clamps - 5/10
Mobius Dick - 8/10
Law & Oracle - 9/10
Benderama - 7.5/10
The Tip of the Zoidberg - 6/10
Ghost in the Machines - 4/10
Neutopia - 6.5/10
Yo Leela Leela - 7/10
Fry Am the Egg Man - 9/10
All the Presidents' Heads - 7.5/10
Cold Warriors - 10/10
Overclockwise - 8.5/10
Reincarnation - 10/10
Overall Rating: 7.5/10

Hypothetical Season Six
Rebirth - 7.5/10
Lethal Inspection - 10/10
The Late Philip J. Fry - 10/10
That Darn Katz! - 6/10
The Prisoner of Benda - 10/10
The Mutants are Revolting - 8/10
The Silence of the Clamps - 5/10
Law & Oracle - 9/10
The Tip of the Zoidberg - 6/10
Fry am the Egg Man - 9/10
Cold Warriors - 10/10
Overclockwise - 8/10
Reincarnation - 10/10
Overall Rating: 8.3/10

Huh. A whole point improvement over 6A, and something close to that for 6B? Not bad. It helps that every single 10/10 episode of the entire sixth season is included on the hypothetical roster; even lousier episodes like "The Silence of the Clamps" don't bring down the average much.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #11 on: 08-23-2012 21:04 »

I quite like your hypothetical S6. But I'd replace TTOTZ with Mobius.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #12 on: 08-24-2012 13:15 »

I'd go with:

1. Rebirth
2. Lethal Inspection
3. The Late Philip J. Fry
4. A Clockwork Origin
5. The Prisoner of Benda
6. The Mutants Are Revolting
7. Mobius Dick
8. Law & Oracle
9. Benderama
10. The Tip of the Zoidberg
11. Cold Warriors
12. Overclockwise
13. Reincarnation
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