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« Reply #40 on: 08-02-2012 12:57 »

I don't usually post much but I adored this episode. I predict many re-watches in my future. There's just something about an episode with a half eaten hot dog in a coffin wearing Fry's clothes that makes it impossible not to love.
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« Reply #41 on: 08-02-2012 12:59 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 13:15 »

If you look closely you can see Zoidberg and Professor (Fry and Leela in their bodies) making out when Leela regains her memories of Fry, I can imagine a casual viewer spotting that (who may not have seen The Prisoner of Benda) and just thinking "WTF..." laff

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Hey guys, this episode provides us with a valid reason behind how Fry knows so much about stuff from his time and... stuff... Unfrozen Dude magazine. big grin
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« Reply #42 on: 08-02-2012 13:23 »

I've already seen it twice now, and again in just a minute! (even with FOXTEL, there's nothing decent to watch tonight)

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« Reply #43 on: 08-02-2012 13:36 »

If you look closely you can see Zoidberg and Professor (Fry and Leela in their bodies) making out when Leela regains her memories of Fry, I can imagine a casual viewer spotting that (who may not have seen The Prisoner of Benda) and just thinking "WTF..." laff

Ahaha totally! Sweet how she remembers even the most disturbing things they've done..
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« Reply #44 on: 08-02-2012 13:43 »

If you look closely you can see Zoidberg and Professor (Fry and Leela in their bodies) making out when Leela regains her memories of Fry, I can imagine a casual viewer spotting that (who may not have seen The Prisoner of Benda) and just thinking "WTF..." laff

Ahaha totally! Sweet how she remembers even the most disturbing things they've done..

I guess that's something impossible for her to forget (though she might try really hard big grin )
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« Reply #45 on: 08-02-2012 14:02 »

If you look closely you can see Zoidberg and Professor (Fry and Leela in their bodies) making out when Leela regains her memories of Fry, I can imagine a casual viewer spotting that (who may not have seen The Prisoner of Benda) and just thinking "WTF..." laff

Pics or it didn't happen.
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« Reply #46 on: 08-02-2012 14:12 »

7/10. I did love the German references (my minor in college was German).
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« Reply #47 on: 08-02-2012 14:25 »

Pics or it didn't happen.

lrn2pause.
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« Reply #48 on: 08-02-2012 15:25 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 15:27 »

7/10. I did love the German references (my minor in college was German).

My apologies to the US Peelers first, but
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I liked the "native German'' 's dialogs. Americans are just too cute when they are trying to fake what they consider a German accent wink big grin ; )

(Sorry again...)
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« Reply #49 on: 08-02-2012 15:26 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 16:35 »

Alright, so here’s my proper review, with framegrabs



Firstly, lol at Benders drawing skillz xD For some reason this whole scene looks like a family chilling out on holidays or something, I would probably be playing cards too – speaking of which, the entire time you see them with their cards, they’re not actually doing anything... there’s no cards on the table either xD But I thought Zoidberg was going to eat a card at some point with the way he was scrutinizing them at one point!



What’s Fry saying in german? [I feel a funny joke just went soaring above my head somewhere]

Love the clothes ~ <3 Especially Leelas. Best part: His and hers chicken hats <3  love

Sometimes Frys eyes sometimes indicated he’s drunk, but sometimes they don’t, I know it’s maybe a bit distracting to have drunk eyes on all the time, but you could maybe have him consistently blink crookedly (one eye a fraction of a sec before the other) to remind us he’s intoxicated, although Billy voicing drunk Fry is fab (but it’s always been big grin)



Bender and Fry crying together for some strange reason made me laugh... not as hard as ‘snuffleupagus’ did, which was unfortunate for me (the first time I watched it) cause I was drinking juice when it happened and consequently choked. The whole mammoth search was funny too, despite watching it as a preview repeatedly. I’m surprised at how smooth a flier Fry is now, even when he’s drunk.

Leela eating the sausage made me cringe and I actually feel ill when we got Leelas POV of the sausage, even though I know it's not really Fry now.



Not sure if I want foils in my hair ever again. Or if I want to laugh or cry at ‘shesh who died’.  hmpf You can shut Bender up by putting something over his mouth?! NICE plot twist – I was seriously shocked when suddenly Fry, nice little flashback as well!

“Who happened, what am I?” – classic Fry xD <3


I love the fact Leela and Fry pine for each other despite having lost their memories of each other. Also Bender drawing again and carrier pigeon. I know most of you think it’s too long, but I think it’s funny that the crew are all fearful of Leela remembering Fry – but why should they be? Amy’s not much in this ep, but love the parts she, Hermes and Zoidberg play... and Zapp xD

LOOOOL Bender’s using portals... ok, Bender during this entire action sequence is awesome

Love the F/L fight, but the epicness of it was forgotten when DAT KISS

(swiped the animation from an earlier post (sorry), but it's so much better than a still!)

I squeed so much, I had to go back and look again when you said that Hermes and the sloth were cuddling cause I missed it xD But after that, I was going to give it a ten and thought that they couldn’t top it...

But they pumped it up to 11!
[BEHOLD! TLFs amazing printscreen button skillz!]
(click the pic for a bigger (yet blurrier) pic)


Space Pilot 3000, Series has landed, Fear of a Bot Planet, My Three Suns, A Flight to Remember, Leelas Homeworld (that was a bit of a jump, from 1 ACV10 to 4ACV02!),Teenage Mutant Leelas Hurdles, The Sting, The Farnsworth Parabox, The Devils Hands are Idle Playthings, Benders Game, Into the Wild Green Yonder (or Rebirth xD), The Late Philip J Fry, The Prisoner of Benda, The Mutants Are Revolting, The Mutants Are Revolting (again!),  Overclockwise


... also, that was a very long time making out, and then after a brief acknowledgement they’re at it again... [Bender]Woooo![/b]

Last few things I enjoyed: the “Accidentally” line, Homage to Flinstones xD <3  and Leela dancing for Fry (although I would have liked to have seen them dance together, this was really sweet)

Going to leave you with the best part of the show (other than the epic pan-shot kiss): HIS AND HERS (SHIPPY) CHICKEN HATS!
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« Reply #50 on: 08-02-2012 15:31 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 15:35 »

Hahaha, thanks so much, Winna. I'm going to be using that as an internet signature, I think.

This was such a great episode. Epic sci-fi plot that was still in service of the characters and their particular conflict. And just, like, every joke worked pretty much. There were so many great moments that had me dying of laughter (chicken face, "now I'm the one criticizing the sausage," pretty much everything with Bender trying to get a better trophy, etc). Animation was amazing, too.

This is the type of episode I watch Futurama for.

OH. And the "Jersey Shore" joke has been mentioned once or twice. If you assume this is a reference to the TV series you might be mistaken. Although the actual place has gained more infamy because of that show, I took it as a reference to the place and the rather unsophisticated people who live there. Either way, the joke will hold up fine considering that. Not like in season 4 when someone wanted to go home to watch the "Zombie Osbournes."
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« Reply #51 on: 08-02-2012 15:40 »

Keine problem, Hein - wir findt dein Englisch komisch tongue

Seriously, I'm sure it does sound funny. There's no substitute for having grown up speaking the language. And believe me, your grasp of English is much better than mine of German.
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« Reply #52 on: 08-02-2012 16:08 »

By far and away, the best episode of this season so far and the first one that's felt up to Futurama's standard.

It's not an outstanding episode but it was very good. Reasonably funny, touching, great plot, well written, etc.

I'm happy.
Fry875

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« Reply #53 on: 08-02-2012 16:23 »

A Farewell To Arms
Thanks so much for the pics, but the last one is from Overclockwise smile
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« Reply #54 on: 08-02-2012 16:43 »

A Farewell To Arms
Thanks so much for the pics, but the last one is from Overclockwise smile
Oops xD that's awkward.  red face  I changed it smile Thank you!

I think I thought of AFTA as they're standing on the same balcony in both those eps, both times talking about their relationship  (also in Reincarnation!) Huh, perhaps there's a running theme here - was there any other ep where they were standing on the balcony together?
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« Reply #55 on: 08-02-2012 16:49 »

None that I can think of from the new run...though I am always reminded of the ending of "Love and Rocket" when I see the two of them out on the balcony (and being interrupted by Zoidberg in "A Farewell to Arms" seemed almost like a deliberate callback to L&R).
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« Reply #56 on: 08-02-2012 16:50 »

Interesting that they chose Fry riding Leegola in BG over anything from BBS for that synapse montage.
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« Reply #57 on: 08-02-2012 16:54 »

Thank you!

No problem, I can see how you thought it was AFTA, its only cause I love "overclockwised" I noticed :P urm in "love and rocket" they do at the end but zoidberg interupts (again!) but thats all I can think of. Also thats from the old series...  hmm maybe there is a running theme  shifty you figured out any more?
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« Reply #58 on: 08-02-2012 17:06 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 17:09 »

Ah, I'd forgotten about Love and Rocket. Can't think of any others, but it is 1am here, I might be able to recall some tomorrow when I'm more awake. Thanks Gorky and Fry875!

Interesting that they chose Fry riding Leegola in BG over anything from BBS for that synapse montage.
Very strange. Although I was so excited about the first few, it's been too long since there's been flashbacks/shout outs to old eps. Although I wish they used the hug from The Sting rather than what they did, but I'm glad they included it!
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« Reply #59 on: 08-02-2012 17:08 »

Everyone's pretty much said what I could've said already at this point; I really really enjoyed it. It reminded me a little bit of TLPJF, as in it's not supposed to be a gut-bustingly hilarious episode, and instead focus on the story. Nevertheless, it did make me laugh a few times, with Bender fleeing while drinking every beer on the counter individually, Fry: We were going out?!, and Zapp, as usual.

It's not my favourite episode ever, it's not even my favourite episode of the season, but it was excellent. 9/10
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« Reply #60 on: 08-02-2012 17:49 »

Can't really add anything more except that I too thought this was a great episode. And again, still a great series for me so far.

1 question - did Zoidberg have any lines?
Fry875

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« Reply #61 on: 08-02-2012 17:52 »

1 question - did Zoidberg have any lines?

*Gasp* no i dont think he did!
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« Reply #62 on: 08-02-2012 18:05 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 18:12 »

Heh, only in Futurama would a gang of neanderthals on mammoths fighting spaceships in the middle of Octoberfest seem totally normal.  This was a great episode.  It was funny, the story was great, and the shippiness didn't feel all soap opera-y.  There was just one thing that bugged me.  Elzar's voice seemed way off to me, almost like it was another voice actor.

I really wish that they would stop "killing off" Fry so often.  He's died so many times now only for it to turn out that he's totally fine that you'd think Leela would start to just sort of shrug every time he gets killed and be like "meh, he'll be back."  Seriously, the guy has been killed off more times than Daniel Jackson.  His death worked great in this ep, but in other ones like Lrrreconciliable Ndndifferences it just seemed unnecessary.

9/10
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« Reply #63 on: 08-02-2012 18:07 »

1 question - did Zoidberg have any lines?

That's what I was thinking earlier, I remembering him appearing frequently but I don't believe he had any lines (I've noticed they've done the same thing with a few characters this season...)
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« Reply #64 on: 08-02-2012 18:16 »

Regarding zoidberg having any lines... I just re-watched the episode to check. He has just 1 line, when looking into Fry's casket: "Poor philip, he looks so peaceful"
Fry875

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« Reply #65 on: 08-02-2012 18:19 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 18:20 »

(I've noticed they've done the same thing with a few characters this season...)
Yh I think they did it with the professor a few episodes ago, may have been Zapp Dingbat.

Regarding zoidberg having any lines... I just re-watched the episode to check. He has just 1 line, when looking into Fry's casket: "Poor philip, he looks so peaceful"
Oh yeah nicely found, i guess it's no one mocking him that shocks me...
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« Reply #66 on: 08-02-2012 18:26 »

(I've noticed they've done the same thing with a few characters this season...)
Yh I think they did it with the professor a few episodes ago, may have been Zapp Dingbat.

Yep it was Zapp Dingbat. Only the 3rd episode in the show's history that the professor has no lines, after "where no fan has gone before" and "the why of fry"
Fry875

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« Reply #67 on: 08-02-2012 18:32 »

Only the 3rd episode in the show's history that the professor has no lines, after "where no fan has gone before" and "the why of fry"

wow i didnt know he didnt speak in that many episodes, i swear he's like a main character!
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« Reply #68 on: 08-02-2012 18:33 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 18:40 »

I think I thought of AFTA as they're standing on the same balcony in both those eps, both times talking about their relationship  (also in Reincarnation!) Huh, perhaps there's a running theme here - was there any other ep where they were standing on the balcony together?

What about Reincarnation? On the balcony, Fry tries to tell Leela how much he cares about her, and when the comet explodes and the diamondium starts scattering around, he proposes to Leela her there. I know that's not canon, but....

I just rewatched. Yes, I agree with others: I thought that the "Jersey Shore socialite" joke referenced the actual place, not the show. New Jersey in general is just the brunt of many jokes, it seems.

One of my favorite gags is the giant beer cask security guard, doing that "I'm watching you" two pointy fingers gesture at Fry.

And Inquisitor, I thought the horrible German accents were part of the humor, and that the actors weren't really attempting authentic accents?

This episode was just so sweet. Fry dying and Leela feeling responsible for his death (sort of, by eating him) harkened back to The Sting for me.

Did no one else notice the overtones of "Avatar"? Fry becoming one of the primitive natives, galvanizing them to rebellion, fighting the ships? The low tech mammoths and crude weapons against the high-tech ships and weaponry?
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« Reply #69 on: 08-02-2012 18:39 »

Did no one else notice the overtones of "Avatar"? Fry becoming one of the primitive natives, galvanizing them to rebellion, fighting the ships? The low tech mammoths and crude weapns against the high-tech ships and weaponry?
I did, but it's a fairly common trope, especially in sci-fi.  It's just so satisfying.

One of my favorite lines from Fry was: "Battalion A, smash things!  Battalion B, smash different things!"

I'm gonna use that one at a warhammer tourney this weekend to great effect.  Also, the UAVs with men in them 'for ballast' cracks me up.
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« Reply #70 on: 08-02-2012 18:40 »

I think I thought of AFTA as they're standing on the same balcony in both those eps, both times talking about their relationship  (also in Reincarnation!) Huh, perhaps there's a running theme here - was there any other ep where they were standing on the balcony together?
What about Reincarnation? On the balcony, Fry tries to tell Leela how much he cares about her, and when the comet explodes and the diamondium starts scattering around, he proposes to Leela her there. I know that's not canon, but....

 laff
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« Reply #71 on: 08-02-2012 18:42 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2012 18:45 »

Just did a rewatch, and I think I enjoyed this episode even more the second time around. It's probably the best all-around (canon) episode--in terms of the story being original and progressing smoothly, the characters being used perfectly, the emotional component being unforced, the pacing being right-on, and the jokes being un-cringeworthy--since either "The Late Philip J Fry" or "The Prisoner of Benda." In fact, I think it might even edge out TLPJF by a hair...

In any event, I would feel okay bumping this episode up to a 10/10, and calling it one of the best things the show's done since it's return. I'm not sure if it's top ten worthy, but it may just be top twenty-five worthy.

Also, a few assorted comments:

Her chicken dance wiggle was off though.

I was more bothered by Fry's chicken dance being off, until I realized that that was probably intentional, and meant to convey just how plastered he was (though you'd think by its nature as a thing people do at weddings and other alcohol-soaked events, the chicken dance by design would be the one dance a person can do correctly whilst drunk). So then I liked it. I didn't notice anything wrong with Leela's dancing--like, at least her arm-flapping and hand-clucking and waist-jiggling came near enough to the appropriate points in the music, which was not the case with Fry's--but I will take your word for it. wink

the Jersey Shore reference.

That didn't bother me, mostly because--like DtB says--it's not really a specific enough reference to, say, Jersey Shore (like, Fry didn't mention guidos, or his awesome tan), or one of those hideous Real Housewives shows (a friend made me watch the Jersey one once. Good god), and someone with no handle on current, mostly-fleeting pop culture (or someone watching the episode ten years from now) could easily think Fry is just making a generalization about the real-life people who live on the Jersey Shore. I'm sure stereotypes existed about them before MTV made those moronic twenty-somethings their bread and butter.

Wow, considering how much some people have gone on in the past about fearing the writers would break up the Fry/Leela relationship whenever the story demanded it I'm really surprised that more people aren't bugged by exactly that happening here.

A good point--and, actually, it occurs to me that there's no real reason, story-wise, that Fry and Leela had to break up. Fry's drunkenness (which, in a roundabout way, led to his being "killed") had nothing to do with being heartbroken, and Leela's guilt and sadness over Fry's death probably would've been acute enough to warrant blanking her memory without her having broken up with him beforehand (though I did love that line about breaking up with her boyfriend, then eating him). I mean, I guess Fry and Leela needed to be separated, spatially, in act one, so that Fry could accompany Bender on his mammoth-hunt without Leela knowing and/or participating as part of the usual trio--but still, that's kind of a flimsy pretext, from a storytelling angle, to break the two of them up.

'Course, I guess Fry and Leela's mutual sadness over the break-up adds a kind of poignancy to their reconciliation and re-remembering of one another at the end, though, so that's cool.

Wow, love all the callbacks to a jillion episodes when Leela remembers Fry

Indeed. I also love how unexpected some of those callbacks are (and thank TLF for frame-grabbing and listing the specific episodes referenced). The "Leela's Homeworld" one is especially touching to me, mostly because that's not a shippy episode by any means. I like that Leela is apparently remembering moments where Fry was just a really wonderful friend to her (like he is during LH); I think it's sweet.

I know most of you think it’s too long, but I think it’s funny that the crew are all fearful of Leela remembering Fry

Watching it again, it didn't bother me as much; I like the crew's initial concerns about not mentioning Fry to Leela, and was quite tickled by the escape pod gag. It's more that I thought the whole "Let's go back to Oktoberfest!" thing--where everyone was watching for Leela's reaction from the doorway, all frightened, as dramatic music played--was a little overdone.

Interesting that they chose Fry riding Leegola in BG over anything from BBS for that synapse montage.

Eh, there's not really anything shippy between Leela and Fry to pull from BBS (and maybe the writers thought it would be weird to include a clip of Leela and Lars, which might have confused the casual viewers...who obviously don't give a damn about such things anyway, so that's kind of dumb), unless you count that kiss she plants on his cheek during Lars's funeral. At least that moment in BG is accompanied by Fry claiming that he's enjoying riding her in such a way, right? That's something worth remembering, Leels!
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« Reply #72 on: 08-02-2012 18:48 »

Come on now New Jersey has been the butt of jokes on Futurama before. 

I think it was the 3rd episode when Fry was looking for a place to live and found a great place but "technically" it was in New Jersey so he didn't take it.
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« Reply #73 on: 08-02-2012 18:58 »

where everyone was watching for Leela's reaction from the doorway, all frightened, as dramatic music played--was a little overdone.
I dunno I thought it was brilliant, really made me laugh each time I've seen it! Especially when Zoidberg slowly came into view big grin
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« Reply #74 on: 08-02-2012 19:25 »

I think the scenes where everybody was trying to keep Leela from remembering Fry were intentionally melodramatic, and that's one of the reasons it was so funny, especially the brief scene where Leela is intently concentrating on the chicken, while it just stares blankly back at her.

It's only natural that they'd make fun of New Jersey (New New Jersey?). New Jersey and New York have a bit of a sibling rivalry. The show's set in New New York, it makes perfect sense they'd knock NJ. For those outside the US, New Jersey has a reputation for being an ugly, dirty, smelly state with notoriously rude, stupid people. Of course, like any stereotype, it's not entirely true. While NJ does have places and people like that, it's hardly representative of the whole state.
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« Reply #75 on: 08-02-2012 19:30 »

Fry won't have heard of Jersey Shore right? 2009 is after his time.. (I don't watch it, just looked up when it started..)
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« Reply #76 on: 08-02-2012 19:43 »

Fry won't have heard of Jersey Shore right? 2009 is after his time.. (I don't watch it, just looked up when it started..)

Hey guys, this episode provides us with a valid reason behind how Fry knows so much about stuff from his time and... stuff... Unfrozen Dude magazine. big grin
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« Reply #77 on: 08-02-2012 19:44 »

ok fair enough :P cheers.
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« Reply #78 on: 08-02-2012 19:45 »

For those outside the US, New Jersey has a reputation for being an ugly, dirty, smelly state with notoriously rude, stupid people. Of course, like any stereotype, it's not entirely true. While NJ does have places and people like that, it's hardly representative of the whole state.

Thank you, thank you! People have been taking digs at the New Jersey yokels since as far as I can remember, and I'm originally from California! It's unfortunate that a lot of people now think that a lowbrow and crude MTV show coined and copyrighted the term "Jersey Shore." Argh, no.

Gorky, maybe I'm just being overly critical, since I've done a lot of social dancing and for cardio classes, etc. Something about Leela's elbows not meeting her hips as she wiggles, and being so jerky--I can just hear the group fitness instructor, when I was training to teach something called Body Jam, critiquing me in my head. But I know the animators can do better; I was really struck by the scene, in one of the AOIs, where human Bender is dancing with the strippers--the way one of them was moving, I thought, wow, the animation  captured that natural movement .

I loved all the melodrama about not reminding Leela of Fry. I loved Hermes' "...Fri...agments of not potatoes!" and "...every Fri....Saturday!" lines.

And another Hermes-ism to add to the list (I think I'll add this to the thread in the HR area): "Sweet Hairy Elephante!" Cute.

Just magnificent. I laughed so many times, but truly, what elevates a Futurama ep for me is the powerful emotional resonance. This one had the same emotional feel as TLPJF's emotional core. Leela and Fry's kiss...silly, because they're just cartoon characters, but it struck me in the gut.
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« Reply #79 on: 08-02-2012 20:18 »

"Where happened? What am I?"

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