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PEE Poll: Is Futurama in decline?
I don't like Futurama much anyway.
The original run was much better.
The original run was a little better.
The new run is just as good as the original.
Decline began partway through the original run.
Undecided.

UnrealLegend

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« Reply #80 on: 10-31-2012 23:50 »

That's an interesting comparison, tnuk.

I think I finally managed to work out what irritated me about 7A. Almost every episode had some kind of annoyance in them that tainted the overall quality:

TBATB- The B-plot felt incredible forced.

AFTA- Arms tearing off was stupid.

D3012- No criticisms here; I found it to be quite solid.

TTOBH- No criticisms here either, which is strange because it was one of my least favourites.

ZD- Zapp had inconsistent characterisation. Also, the divorce was a bit too abrupt.

TBJE- The plot itself was pretty average.

TSMDM- Roberto's demise was anticlimatic.

FOAB- No criticisms here.

FWH- The first act could have been condensed into a single montage. Also, Bender was a total prick.

NDW- The Matrix references were too blatant and lasted too long.

3OCF- The twist of the Huntsman being a robot made no sense.

VMV- The events of AFTA weren't addressed. I'd rather blame the latter though.

Naturama- No criticisms here.

All that said, I still enjoyed the season. There just seems to be more frequent flaws.
Scent of Glass
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« Reply #81 on: 11-01-2012 00:41 »
« Last Edit on: 11-02-2012 01:01 »

Pretty interesting sketch, UnrealLegend. I might as well do that myself.

The Bots and the Bees: The Fry subplot was unnecessary and pointless. It solving the fog problem was also cheap.

A Farewell to Arms: Leela was a bitch throughout the episode. The arms ripping apart was also really stupid.

Decision 3012: Really, there aren't any true problems here, besides the fact that it could have been funnier.

The Thief of Baghead: The plot felt too much like a modern-day Simpsons episode, and it was rushed.

Zapp Dingbat: The divorce felt really forced, and some of the jokes fell flat.

The Butterjunk Effect: Fine until the ending...not only was it rushed beyond belief, but it was also retarded.

The Six Million Dollar Mon: A really great episode until Roberto started attacking the crew. Not only did the episode just turned from nicely paced into a rushed mess, but the solution to their problem was anti-climatic and stupid.

Fun on a Bun: No real flaws here. Fry was a bit OCC in the beginning, but I'll let that slide.

Free Will Hunting: Pretty fast paced, and Bender shooting the Professor was a dick move, but those are the only problems.

Near Death Wish: The professor being naked for half the episode was unsettling, and ruined the feeling this episode was building up to.

Viva Mars Vegas: Rushed beginning...that's it.

31st Century Fox: I'll get to writing an entire review on this piece of shit.

Naturama: The final act was terrible. Bender winning really made me mad. The other acts were fine, but still...

The season was terrible anyways, so I expected this much flaws.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #82 on: 11-01-2012 01:39 »

not only was it rushed beyond belief, but it was also retarded.

Literally. laff
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #83 on: 11-01-2012 13:19 »

I'm tempted to nitpick all of season 6 as well, though I can't really be bothered.

Also, you seem to have missed 30th Century Fox, Scent of Glass.
Onuki

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« Reply #84 on: 11-28-2012 21:16 »

the show is getting a lot worse. the original run already wasn't that good. tragedy, violence, & fake romance just to feed shippers is stupid. they should stop if they're not gonna improve. I also hate clothing destruction. (I like clothes)

A Farewell to Arms: Leela was a bitch throughout the episode. The arms ripping apart was also really stupid.

that. I really hate that episode. I wish that episode was never made. there was a lot I didn't like about the recent episodes. some of them are my least favorite. for example: The Bots and the Bees, The Butterjunk Effect, Fun on a Bun, & Naturama
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #85 on: 11-28-2012 21:23 »
« Last Edit on: 11-28-2012 21:31 »

I'm sure that David X Cohen will make the show's production more pliant so that it can go exactly the way you want it to go. Just call him up, and tell him everything that annoys about the show so it can be more based around what you want. Because what you want not only makes sense, but it would also make the show much better! As a matter of fact, you should just take over production yourself since you know what you're doing so well. roll eyes
Onuki

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« Reply #86 on: 11-28-2012 21:47 »
« Last Edit on: 11-28-2012 21:49 »

he should listen to me if he knows what's good for him but the staff probably only sees what they want. they probably don't give a f**k about the characters' souls & the fact they're killing them over & over. not everyone has the same taste but i bet the Futurama characters aren't happy with the show either. shouldn't that matter? hell yeah i should take over. i'd probably make a good show
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #87 on: 11-28-2012 22:17 »

Wait, you didn't like the original run? What got you into it?
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #88 on: 11-28-2012 22:30 »

These readings are off the charts!
Onuki

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« Reply #89 on: 11-28-2012 22:31 »

Wait, you didn't like the original run? What got you into it?

there's some things i like & some things i didn't like about the 1st season. the episode i watched to determine if i liked the show was "Brannigan, Begin Again". as soon as i heard this quote, i had to see more:

Quote
Zapp: Back when I was captain all I asked from my men was their complete loyalty. If I had that, then for all I cared they could sit around the whole day drinking beer in their underpants.
Bender: Beer?
Fry: Underpants?

that quote, especially the line in bold, won me over. that's Futurama to me
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #90 on: 11-28-2012 22:33 »

You're a weirdo.
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #91 on: 11-28-2012 22:36 »

I believe Danny once informed me that Unmentionable is "gay for Fry". Now I don't know if that's  true, but if it is I really don't want to know the degree of it.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #92 on: 11-28-2012 22:47 »

I believe Danny once informed me that Unmentionable is "gay for Fry". Now I don't know if that's  true, but if it is I really don't want to know the degree of it.

He actually is a homosexual boy/man. Nothing wrong with that.

He is also actually in love with Fry. I shit you not.
Onuki

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« Reply #93 on: 11-28-2012 22:49 »

You're a weirdo.

I don't care if you think I'm strange. I ain't gonna change!

I believe Danny once informed me that Unmentionable is "gay for Fry". Now I don't know if that's  true, but if it is I really don't want to know the degree of it.

He actually is a homosexual boy/man. Nothing wrong with that.

He is also actually in love with Fry. I shit you not.

yep
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #94 on: 11-28-2012 22:55 »

To clarify I wasn't hating on homosexuals. As a matter of fact, being gay is perfectly fine. But being in love with Fry, that's just weird.
The Sophisticated Shut In

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« Reply #95 on: 11-28-2012 22:56 »

Coffee. Laptop. Burns.

I really wish I could unsee the last few posts here. Wtf?
The Sophisticated Shut In

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« Reply #96 on: 11-28-2012 22:57 »

To clarify I wasn't hating on homosexuals. As a matter of fact, being gay is perfectly fine. But being in love with Fry, that's just weird.

Unless you're Leela.

*ducks*
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #97 on: 11-28-2012 22:57 »

Well Unmentionable, seeing how it is the darkest timeline, would you like to help me spread evil?
The Sophisticated Shut In

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« Reply #98 on: 11-28-2012 23:07 »

he should listen to me if he knows what's good for him but the staff probably only sees what they want. they probably don't give a f**k about the characters' souls & the fact they're killing them over & over. not everyone has the same taste but i bet the Futurama characters aren't happy with the show either. shouldn't that matter? hell yeah i should take over. i'd probably make a good show

Fantasy. Reality.

You seem a little confused.

And why so much hate for the writers? You do realize everything you love about these characters was written by those same people?

I also hate clothing destruction. (I like clothes)

Ye-esssss . .  .  confused
Onuki

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« Reply #99 on: 11-28-2012 23:21 »

To clarify I wasn't hating on homosexuals. As a matter of fact, being gay is perfectly fine. But being in love with Fry, that's just weird.

it's his boyish charm

Well Unmentionable, seeing how it is the darkest timeline, would you like to help me spread evil?

well, i'm kinda like the devil but not too evil

You seem a little confused.

not really. i'm a spiritual person.

And why so much hate for the writers? You do realize everything you love about these characters was written by those same people?

that's true. i don't like that they're abusing their power and they don't realize what they've made

Ye-esssss . .  .  confused

yes i admit i'm weird
DannyJC13

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« Reply #100 on: 11-28-2012 23:29 »

Not weird. Psychopathic. Disturbed. Get help.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #101 on: 11-28-2012 23:30 »


that's true. i don't like that they're abusing their power and they don't realize what they've made



How are they abusing their power? Because they're not producing episodes that perfectly fit your twisted expectations?
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #102 on: 11-28-2012 23:33 »

Oh god! The world is going to hell! Damn Democracy! Damn the freedom for righters to make high quality shows! We're all gonna die!
Onuki

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« Reply #103 on: 11-28-2012 23:46 »

Not weird. Psychopathic. Disturbed. Get help.

how would you describe yourself? normal? you're far from it

How are they abusing their power? Because they're not producing episodes that perfectly fit your twisted expectations?

kinda. i don't think the show's staff is setting a good example. what happened to keeping it real & being honest with the way you feel. why can't the characters be themselves?
DannyJC13

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« Reply #104 on: 11-28-2012 23:50 »

how would you describe yourself? normal? you're far from it

No one is normal.

But not everyone is a friggin' psychopath.
The Sophisticated Shut In

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« Reply #105 on: 11-28-2012 23:50 »

To clarify I wasn't hating on homosexuals. As a matter of fact, being gay is perfectly fine. But being in love with Fry, that's just weird.

it's his boyish charm

Well Unmentionable, seeing how it is the darkest timeline, would you like to help me spread evil?

well, i'm kinda like the devil but not too evil

You seem a little confused.

not really. i'm a spiritual person.


Yes. Really. You have to been alive in the first place to have a spirit, Unmentionable! And they're not. The characters don't exist outside of the heads of the writers - everything they say is the result of the writer's imagination, which an actor (a real, flesh-and-blood human) then records into a mike. Everything you see is pictures. That's it. That's how the show is made. It's not magic!


And why so much hate for the writers? You do realize everything you love about these characters was written by those same people?

that's true. i don't like that they're abusing their power and they don't realize what they've made

This must be how Victor Frankenstein felt when he first beheld the creature. Truly, they know not what they have done.

Ye-esssss . .  .  confused

yes i admit i'm weird

Old clothes get shredded and used to stuff mattresses.

No points. Just sayin'.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #106 on: 11-28-2012 23:52 »

Not weird. Psychopathic. Disturbed. Get help.

how would you describe yourself? normal? you're far from it

How are they abusing their power? Because they're not producing episodes that perfectly fit your twisted expectations?

kinda. i don't think the show's staff is setting a good example. what happened to keeping it real & being honest with the way you feel. why can't the characters be themselves?

I hate to break it to you, but the characters aren't real. They're fictional beings created by the show's producers.
Onuki

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« Reply #107 on: 11-29-2012 00:04 »

how would you describe yourself? normal? you're far from it
No one is normal.

you're right. no-one's perfect. *shrugs* some people say they're normal. it's really not my personality.

But not everyone is a friggin' psychopath.

i think you're exaggerating. psychopath is a harsh word. i'm not a killer or molester.

Old clothes get shredded and used to stuff mattresses.

No points. Just sayin'.

i don't like when they're unnecessarily ruined. if they're old, then ok. they can be used for something else

I hate to break it to you, but the characters aren't real. They're fictional beings created by the show's producers.

i know but i think souls exist. all the souls are dying
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #108 on: 09-04-2013 19:45 »

Futurama's last episode is not untimely, according to this article, and I agree with almost everything that's said in it.

Whilst I'll watch the last episode (and might then review the last few of the season), I'm honestly not that bothered about it being the last one. Not nearly as bothered as I'll be about Breaking Bad's finale being the end of that particular universe.

But I am slightly curious as to whether this will be something that people here agree with overall (I'm guessing not, really), and thought it'd be interesting to ask the question (and this seemed an appropriate thread to do it in).
DannyJC13

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« Reply #109 on: 09-04-2013 19:53 »

"Too Many In-Jokes"

Dunno why that one should relate to you, being a Futurama fan and all. hmpf
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #110 on: 09-04-2013 20:07 »

"Too Many In-Jokes"

Dunno why that one should relate to you, being a Futurama fan and all. hmpf

I agree with almost everything that's said in it.

almost everything

almost

"I agree with almost everything" means that there are still some things I don't agree with. roll eyes

Besides which, there does come a point at which something is merely a collection of references to earlier iterations of itself for want of anything new to say(not that I think Futurama's reached that point yet. I just think it's coming close, and that had it continued it might have reached that point pretty soon).
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #111 on: 09-04-2013 22:41 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2013 22:43 »

Most of it I can't really disagree with. I'd dispute the in-jokes point as well, as well as the claim that it's abandoned its sci-fi roots. There was a pretty decent amount of sci-fi this season, even if not all of it was that great.

Also, totally commented on this article. That's right, I have accounts outside of here.
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #112 on: 09-04-2013 22:47 »
« Last Edit on: 09-04-2013 22:48 »

Article had good points, but I don't think there is generally less science fiction or emotional aspect. The problem with those is that they are not so much in-depth, when episodes have too much story or too many aspects to cover in one 22 minutes. Science fiction is probably just part of the theme of episode and emotions might be in background or as a conclusion and that way they don't get as much coverage as they needed to fully satisfy.

I haven't thought these things from this point of view, but these might indeed be drawbacks from complexity in basic level of episodes, like pacing is sometimes, in new episodes.
Lost My Phone

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« Reply #113 on: 09-04-2013 22:55 »

I voted for "The original run was a little better".

However, I have enjoyed most of the revived series. I admit that Season 7 started off a bit rocky but improved after a while. I definitely have enjoyed 7B so far, and I'm looking forward to watching "Meanwhile" tonight.

Now of course, there have been a few episodes from these past few seasons I didn't enjoy very much, especially "Neutopia".
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #114 on: 09-05-2013 02:26 »

I definitely disagree with "not enough sci-fi". Practically every episode in 7B has had a lot of sci-fi in it's premise; and episodes like "Game of Tones" and "Murder on the Planet Express" used sci-fi concepts that are pretty fresh for the show.

"Saturday Morning Flop Pit" and "Stench and Stenchibility" didn't feature a whole lot of sci fi, but not every episode needs to.

The rest of the article was somewhat agreeable, but I do think this season has had more "heart" than the likes of seasons 2 or 1.
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