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sshspooky

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« Reply #80 on: 07-26-2012 21:38 »

Also (and I suspect that this has been discussed before), is Roberto the only robot in the Futurama universe with a "regular" human name? Most (all?) of the other robots have names that tie in with their functional purpose or some other characteristic about them--I can't think of another example. Or is "Roberto" supposed to be a play on words of "robot-o" or something?
I thought the name Roberto originated from his original function of a Robber?
Svip

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« Reply #81 on: 07-26-2012 21:40 »

My biggest amusement:

That TheMadCapper keeps putting his stuff in spoiler tags despite the fact that this entire thread has a spoiler warning in its title.  I can't stop laughing at that.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #82 on: 07-26-2012 21:43 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 21:55 by totalnerduk »

Not only was the outcome of the episode pretty obvious from quite early on, but there was another indication that the writers intend to keep screwing with continuity the way that a sex addict keeps going back to the dirtiest whore in town, even though he knows that her sex parts are a festering soup of diseases.
Wait... I must have missed something. Where were the continuity errors?

Not so much errors as things that they'll have to remember for future episodes or they'll make continuity errors keep cropping up in this season. I'm not happy about that.
And my god, have some people not been watching the same show since the first season? The skin thing wasn't even nearly the most ridiculous thing they've ever done. Not top 100 even.

I mean I get a show having its own rules, etc, but Futurama's have always been pretty loose as it is. You're just not watching the right show if you want strict continuity and scientific accuracy.

Futurama's internal logic and continuity were actually very tight all the way up to the first movie. There were fewer blatant ridiculosities in the first seasons of Futurama, as well. There was a lot of attention to detail, and attention to making the Futuramaverse something we didn't have to suspend much of our natural disbelief in order to enjoy when the show started.

Which seems to have gone out the window in later seasons.

Fry lost his head and had it sown on to Amy's shoulder. That was just as ridiculous as dropping Hermes' brain back into his head and him springing back to life. Admittedly there have been a few occassions in recent episodes so they could do with cutting back on it, but it's certainly not a boundary the original run never crossed.

I beg to differ. Zoidberg kept Fry's head alive with quick surgery, and grafted it to Amy. This is not quite beyond the realms of possibility, even today. Even for something set 1,000 years in the future though, the idea of simply dropping a disconnected brain into a reconstituted cadaver (that had already been described as "beginning to rot" and had been used as a ventriloquist's dummy), then that corpse returning to life is pretty stupid.

The show's own internal logic never used to be that sloppy.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #83 on: 07-26-2012 21:53 »


Literally every Futurama episode has at least a few quick jokes that are completely ridiculous and unexplainable. It's hardly even worth listing them. And yes, they're "convenient" insofar as the absurdity is what makes it funny.


Yeah, as "throwaway" gags. The resolution which is set up over 22,5 minutes is usually worth of a more elaborate gag.
sparkybarky

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« Reply #84 on: 07-26-2012 22:01 »

My biggest amusement:

That TheMadCapper keeps putting his stuff in spoiler tags despite the fact that this entire thread has a spoiler warning in its title.  I can't stop laughing at that.

TheMadCapper reprimanded someone for not putting spoiler tags around his remarks. Maybe s/he is trying to set an example--but, I really didn't see the point since there is a huge spoiler warning in this thread, as you've pointed out.
Dorsal Axe

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« Reply #85 on: 07-26-2012 22:04 »

I was disappointed they got rid of the lightsaber joke. I understand it may have been due to a legal issue (although they used it only two episodes ago, so that doesn't make any sense), but they could have at least used a similar-ish sound. The random robotic noise just doesn't mean or do anything. There's no joke there. I hope they can change it for Volume 7 and reruns (Calculon-Windows-version-style).

Anyway, I need to rewatch this one. I enjoyed it, but I think it's my least favourite Keeler episode though. It seemed to lack a certain... ingenuity, perhaps, that his episodes are often known for. The ending was a real cop out.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #86 on: 07-26-2012 22:32 »

Yeah, the lightsabre gag would have been the best gag in the episode if it had remained.

Anyway, in my opinion, this is by far and away the best episode so far this season.

It was very well structured and, for the most part, the plot worked very well. It's not like the gags fell painfully flat - it just felt like there weren't really any..

So yeah, vastly superior to the previous 6 episodes but, the show's still a depressing shadow of its former self.

Gorky

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« Reply #87 on: 07-26-2012 22:42 »

I'm not going to do a whole in-depth review for this one (I can hear PEEL heaving a collective sigh of relief), since everything I wanted to say about it has already been said by others. In short, I thought this was a really well-structured episode; the gripes I had with it beginning in act one (an encounter with Roberto horribly shaking Hermes (a la Fry in "Insane in the Mainframe"), the initially-funny-but-then-overly-long gag with the goat curry burning everything in its path) were all called back--and therefore justified--in act three. I appreciated the foreshadowing, and the way all the loose ends were tied up. I also liked the exploration of the Hermes/Zoidberg friendship, enjoyed the "Monster Mash"-y song (cheesy though it may have been), appreciated LaBarbara actually acting like a concerned wife, and was thoroughly amused by the way Mecha Hermes spoke (both the timbre of his voice, and the referring-to-himself-in-the-third-person thing). I'd say this one was a solid 7/10.

And here are a few assorted comments...

On the subject of the mutilations: I get that it's annoying when characters are mangled for the sake of a cheap gag or meaningless plot point (as was the case in "A Farewell to Arms"--which I still really liked, but I understand other people's complaints about the dismemberment), but in this case the entire episode was based on Hermes willingly mutilating himself. Like, that's what the episode was about. We can argue about whether or not that's a good idea for a story, but the fact remains that you can't have an episode about Hermes becoming a robot without him actually being sliced and diced. Mutilation has similarly been a focal point in another Ken Keeler episode ("Put Your Head on My Shoulder"); it didn't bother me there, so it can't rightly bother me here.

On the subject of the absurdity of Hermes' meat puppet coming back to life: Zoidberg's been shown to be a competent enough doctor when the plot demands it (see also: "The Tip of the Zoidberg," particularly the flashbacks). You can tell from the moment he starts collecting Hermes' discarded body parts that he has ulterior motives; cartoon-y though it may be, I imagine that Zoidberg could faithfully reconstruct Hermes' body in such a way that all it would need to become fully sentient is the addition of a brain. (On that note: I loved the way Hermes listed a little when Zoidberg first reattached his brain; that was a lovely, subtle bit of animation.) There was a definite Frankenstein vibe to the whole thing, and it felt justified enough to me. Then again, I'm easy to please.

On the subject of Roberto's "death": I'm pretty sure he'll be back--and that doesn't bother me. As others have said already, the show's never been terribly consistent in its portrayal of robots and mortality.

So, yeah. Good episode. I agree with cyber_turnip that it wasn't a terribly funny episode, but I'll certainly take an interesting (and somewhat touching) exploration of the characters' relationships at the expense of nonstop hilarity. There were enough decent gags to be found, and the story itself was compelling enough that I didn't mind the absence of truly laugh-out-loud moments. Again: Easy to please. I have terribly low standards, people.
hopie4ever

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« Reply #88 on: 07-26-2012 23:01 »

It was good, not great, but it was dumb and I had come to expect better than that (before the movies and new eps)
Once you get past that It is worth watching but there is always that thought int he back of the mind that it could be better
I won't forgive the death of Roberto though, he was one of the best characters
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #89 on: 07-26-2012 23:53 »

I won't forgive the death of Roberto though, he was one of the best characters

Right now, I am thinking about some typical horror like ending. E.g. Scruffy sweeping the floor with Robertos remains, his intact brain being thrown out, some folks finding it with a comment "Hey, look. who throws away a good Robot brain? Looks still good...", picking it up, walking away, with a few sinister tunes setting in.
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #90 on: 07-26-2012 23:58 »


Futurama's internal logic and continuity were actually very tight all the way up to the first movie. There were fewer blatant ridiculosities in the first seasons of Futurama, as well. There was a lot of attention to detail, and attention to making the Futuramaverse something we didn't have to suspend much of our natural disbelief in order to enjoy when the show started.

Which seems to have gone out the window in later seasons.


What about Bender? The dude has more origins than Heath Ledger Joker's scars, and most of those came from the original run. And Zoidberg for that matter? In A Taste of Freedom he's just a kid version of himself, but in Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles he goes through all his larval stages. And it goes without saying that continuity is far easier to stay true to, the fewer episodes there are.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #91 on: 07-27-2012 00:06 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2012 00:08 »

About recurring/important characters dying:

If they're gonna do it, make it permanent or mix things up. Why even bother doing stuff like this at all if the character is going to come back as their plain old self?

This is why I really, really hope 'Calculon 2.0' will be about Calculon getting a new body, or at least a new personality. Or maybe both!

the girls sported wings.

Which they strapped on, they didn't actually grow wings... roll eyes
El-Man

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« Reply #92 on: 07-27-2012 00:17 »

Even for something set 1,000 years in the future though, the idea of simply dropping a disconnected brain into a reconstituted cadaver (that had already been described as "beginning to rot" and had been used as a ventriloquist's dummy), then that corpse returning to life is pretty stupid.

That annoys me too, but now I prefer to handwave it away by believing everyone in Futurama has emergency medical nanites inside their bloodstreams, as common as vaccinations are today. Which can save people in the event they get decapitated, have an arm ripped off, get their brains put back inside a still-living body. Or any such other examples.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #93 on: 07-27-2012 00:20 »

Now would be a good time to say: Geez, loosen up guys! You gotta admit this was better than the last 3 episodes! This is VERY similar to the Season 6A Frenzy. Some episodes are really weak/ But I know Futurama will eventually get "better" to y'all! Try to enjoy what they're showing for now! It's better than the Holiday Craptacular, and In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela. Plus, coming up is "Fun on a Bun", where on a preview I saw Fry getting killed. I think after that we will start getting positive reviews  smile
DannyJC13

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« Reply #94 on: 07-27-2012 00:41 »

I honestly believe I am one of the only people to still 100% enjoy Futurama. Shame. You all expect to be treated to an amazing masterpiece. Let the show do it's thing guys.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #95 on: 07-27-2012 00:51 »

What about Bender? The dude has more origins than Heath Ledger Joker's scars, and most of those came from the original run.

In the original run, we see that Bender was built in Mexico by Mom's Friendly Robot Company. We see his mother, one of the assembly robots, and we see that he went to Bending State University, where he majored in Bending. We don't see anything that's a major goof-up except for Bender's age being established incorrectly. His origin story has stayed consistent throughout and has a high degree of positive continuity. So what the hell are you talking about?

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And Zoidberg for that matter? In A Taste of Freedom he's just a kid version of himself, but in Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles he goes through all his larval stages.

We don't know how long he was in each larval stage before he became a "child decapodian", and we don't know how long they live, how long their childhoods last, etc. I'm comfortable with those larval stages. They were jokes well done, and didn't necessarily trample over continuity. Later failures just seem... sloppy. Not as much time or care has been taken to keep continuity intact.

Now would be a good time to say: Geez, loosen up guys! You gotta admit this was better than the last 3 episodes!

The previous episode was worse, but not by much. The two before that were more-or-less on a par with it. They're watchable, but they're not exactly brilliant. This season is earning a low average from me so far. It's better than YLL and THS, but it's not got far to go before it sinks to that level. There need to be some good episodes coming up in order to keep me watching compulsively.

I honestly believe I am one of the only people to still 100% enjoy Futurama. Shame. You all expect to be treated to an amazing masterpiece. Let the show do it's thing guys.

If that thing you refer to is "slow decline", it's doing well at it. It's not what it was, Danny. I wanted to enjoy it for what it is, but what it is just isn't what it was. As an example, go back and watch the first disc of the first season on DVD. Any one of those episodes has much more of the stuff that made the show appeal to nerds, geeks, dorks and assorted internet weirdos than anything put out in S7 so far. Compare Season 1 to Season 6. Look at what you've got there... TPOB, TLPJF, Reincarnation, and LI are probably going to be the top four episodes. There are two or three more like Mobius Dick and L&O which will be nearly at the same level. There are six or seven out of over twenty episodes that are "greats", compared to at least nine from Season 1. Which only had thirteen episodes in it.

I don't think that the show's incapable of hitting those highs anymore, I just think it does so a lot less often now, and when it's not hitting a high, it's usually pretty low at the moment.

I should put together another graph...

My Manwich

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« Reply #96 on: 07-27-2012 00:54 »

I honestly believe I am one of the only people to still 100% enjoy Futurama. Shame. You all expect to be treated to an amazing masterpiece. Let the show do it's thing guys.
You are not the only one.  I love the show and enjoy the new episodes.

Every time a new Futurama DVD comes out I buy it that day.  I fall asleep with a small DVD player playing something every night and I use the Futurama DVDS the most.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #97 on: 07-27-2012 01:11 »

I've begun a new spreadsheet. So far I've been working with three sets of review data for Season 1, and have come up with the following: A season average of 8.5/10, and 9/13 episodes above average. Which bears out at least some of what I was saying. I think I'll press on and try to produce a new graph based on CGEF's data. It's not the most reliable quality indicator, really. But it's the largest sample size and should be the most representative of popular opinion. Which will have to do.
MYK

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« Reply #98 on: 07-27-2012 01:12 »

Interesting episode. I don't think I caught enough in this episode to give it a concrete numerical rating, but I think it's hovering around a low 8 right now.

Although the episode was primarily about Hermes, Zoidberg stole the show. He's still his old, bizarre, funny self, and he played a great part in this episode. LaBarbara played an appropriate part too. (Not as funny, but certainly fitting) The ending did seem a little ridiculous, but it wasn't bad enough that it threw the episode off its track (like what seemed to happen in "the Butterjunk Effect") Not extremely funny all around but there were some great jokes. Dying Unit 44 was pretty clever.

Despite Roberto's death, I am pretty sure he'll be back. He's completely insane, but never struck me as stupid. I think it would be just like him to have some type of "loony-but-makes sense-if-you-think-about-it" back-up plan in case he died. Calculon will very likely return, and I wouldn't be surprised if Roberto comes back in the same episode.

I'm not that bothered by the character mutilations. It's a bit annoying, yes, but not awful. It was kinda stupid in "A Farewell to Arms" And while it was poorly resolved in "The Butterjunk Effect", it wasn't without basis in that episode, and I don't believe it's bad to the extent that it ruins episodes.

As to the overall quality of the show, I don't notice a big change. Season 6 had its rough patches but was still pretty respectable when all was said and done. Same with this season: A few great episodes, a couple good ones, a couple average ones.
Zmithy

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« Reply #99 on: 07-27-2012 01:14 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2012 01:17 »

TNUK covers my opinion pretty well, it just isn't getting as many good episodes out the door lately.

I've gone from super-hyped about Futurama 10 years ago, through to apathy, followed by getting interested again with the movies, and a strong opening to season 6 (and a strong ending for it as well).. season 7 will have to do something pretty spectacular to get me above "I'll definitely watch it, but meh, 50/50 chance I won't ever want to rewatch it" levels of enthusiasm.

Original run I watched every episode multiple times, and still rewatch in favour of a lot of season 5/6.

At this point I'm a casual fan holding out for those rare times that the show does an epic, thought-provoking and hilarious sci-fi episode. TLPJF is so far the only contender for being considered a true "great" or top-10 episode for the entire run of the show.
Mr Snrub

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« Reply #100 on: 07-27-2012 01:22 »

In the original run, we see that Bender was built in Mexico by Mom's Friendly Robot Company. We see his mother, one of the assembly robots, and we see that he went to Bending State University, where he majored in Bending. We don't see anything that's a major goof-up except for Bender's age being established incorrectly. His origin story has stayed consistent throughout and has a high degree of positive continuity. So what the hell are you talking about?

Bendless Love not only suggests he got all required information and education on the assembly line, not in Epsilon Rho Rho, but that there was no infancy stage and he was immediately built as an adult (that idea's reiterrated in Mother's Day) but, again, in TMLH, Bender regresses through age.

I honestly believe I am one of the only people to still 100% enjoy Futurama. Shame. You all expect to be treated to an amazing masterpiece. Let the show do it's thing guys.
I'm in that same boat. Your continued optimism is why you're one of my favourite commenters on PEEL, so I respect you for that. smile
tyraniak

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« Reply #101 on: 07-27-2012 02:12 »

By far my favorite of the season
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #102 on: 07-27-2012 02:33 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2012 02:41 by totalnerduk »

Bendless Love not only suggests he got all required information and education on the assembly line, not in Epsilon Rho Rho, but that there was no infancy stage and he was immediately built as an adult (that idea's reiterrated in Mother's Day) but, again, in TMLH, Bender regresses through age.

That's hardly the multitude of origin stories your original post implied. roll eyes It's also not really an issue with Bender's origin story so much as confusion about when/how he obtained his education.

Anyhow, I have updated my episode quality graph.

Draw your own conclusions for now, whilst I work on a dynamic average line.

The old graph can be found on WikiPEELia, as well as other versions existing in older threads.
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #103 on: 07-27-2012 03:14 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2012 03:20 »

The vegetable peeler extension is a Chekov's Gun: when there's a gun in the story, the gun's got to be discharged somehow. I agree with winna; the skin flake tied in with the resolution, and it was nice that Roberto's demand of LaBarbara's skin was not just something random and zany thrown in there.

I really dug the way Hermes' frightened reflection flashed in Roberto's knives during the mugging (those are some very shiny weapons).

Also (and I suspect that this has been discussed before), is Roberto the only robot in the Futurama universe with a "regular" human name? Most (all?) of the other robots have names that tie in with their functional purpose or some other characteristic about them--I can't think of another example. Or is "Roberto" supposed to be a play on words of "robot-o" or something?

Or is the simplest explanation: Is Roberto Latino? smile

Robots not named for their function/appearance:

Calculon
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Francis (nickname: Clamps)
Billy West
Vladimir
Lisa (waterwheel robot from Obsoletely fabulous)
Oily (nerdy frat-bot at Mars U)
Andrew (tiny muggerbot)
phxgator

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« Reply #104 on: 07-27-2012 04:03 »

That was the best "Sweet X of Y" line for quite some time...
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #105 on: 07-27-2012 04:18 »

I really don't think the CGEF ratings are particularly credible. How is "A Farewell to Arms" rated higher than "The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings"?  confused

Sometimes it seems like the shippy episodes get automatic high ratings, which is dumb.
Gorky

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« Reply #106 on: 07-27-2012 04:26 »

Sometimes it seems like the shippy episodes get automatic high ratings, which is dumb.

I wouldn't rule that theory out completely, but I think the bigger problem is that waaay more people (1240) have reviewed Devil's Hands than have reviewed "A Farewell to Arms" (88). If most of those 88 people are giving the latter episode a 4/5 or 5/5 rating, it's bound to be ranked more favorably than the episode that has been rated by 1240 viewers whose rankings have been all over the place.

I don't actually know if what I'm positing makes any sense, but whatever. Let us resume looking at tnuk's charts!
FishyJoe

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« Reply #107 on: 07-27-2012 04:29 »

As a DirecTV subscriber, I was very pleased to have new Futurama on my TV again!

Sadly, I did not dig this episode. The cartooney mutilations and spicy goat curry (or whatever) were a bit silly, but I could have forgiven it if the episode had worked on a comedic level. Rules of logic can be broken, but only if you have a legitimately funny reason to do it. This episode just didn't make me laugh very much.

On a positive note, I will say that I did like Zoidberg's part in the story. I liked his standup comedy, I liked the Hermes dummy...I liked him singing in harmony with himself. Cute, classic Zoidberg.
sparkybarky

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« Reply #108 on: 07-27-2012 04:41 »

MadCapper, thanks for the clarification.  sshspooky, I didn't think about the "robber" angle--I guess because I see Roberto as more of a shanker than a thief. ("Of course it's shank or be shanked.")

I honestly believe I am one of the only people to still 100% enjoy Futurama. Shame. You all expect to be treated to an amazing masterpiece. Let the show do it's thing guys.

What makes you say that? It seems to me that there are plenty of people on this forum who enjoy the latest episodes of this show. Perhaps tnuk, futurefreak, and homerjaysimpson's doom-and-gloom opinions give that impression. I appreciate their viewpoints (well, maybe not really the latter's) and those with opinions of this episode that differs from mine, but they are balanced by a lot of comments made by satisfied PEELers.

Personally, I gave this ep a 9/10, the highest rating I've given this season. Maybe that means I have bad taste (nothing hits the spot like a fried Spam sandwich with ketchup and Velveeta--yum! And blue eyeshadow gives your eyes sparkle and drama, ladies! Long live the Bee Gees and Lawrence Welk). There are plenty of episodes in this new run that I am indifferent to or loathe (never understood the love for "Duh Vinci Code" and "Fry Am the Egg Man"), but I still really appreciated the anticipation and excitement leading up to them when they were new at the time.

If Futurama's days are numbered, then I am going to savor every moment of the rest of this season. Transience is a big part of beauty. "Nature's first green is gold, Her hardest hue to hold. Her early leaf's a flower; But only so an hour....blah blah"

Stay gold, Ponyboy.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #109 on: 07-27-2012 04:59 »

I honestly believe I am one of the only people to still 100% enjoy Futurama. Shame. You all expect to be treated to an amazing masterpiece. Let the show do it's thing guys.

I believe that too, but I'm drunk and on drugs!

Seriously????

That's crazier than me or Roberto, for shame!

SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #110 on: 07-27-2012 05:17 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2012 05:23 »

The vegetable peeler extension is a Chekov's Gun: when there's a gun in the story, the gun's got to be discharged somehow. I agree with winna; the skin flake tied in with the resolution, and it was nice that Roberto's demand of LaBarbara's skin was not just something random and zany thrown in there.

I really dug the way Hermes' frightened reflection flashed in Roberto's knives during the mugging (those are some very shiny weapons).

Also (and I suspect that this has been discussed before), is Roberto the only robot in the Futurama universe with a "regular" human name? Most (all?) of the other robots have names that tie in with their functional purpose or some other characteristic about them--I can't think of another example. Or is "Roberto" supposed to be a play on words of "robot-o" or something?

Or is the simplest explanation: Is Roberto Latino? smile

Robots not named for their function/appearance:

Calculon
URL
Francis (nickname: Clamps)
Billy West
Vladimir
Lisa (waterwheel robot from Obsoletely fabulous)
Oily (nerdy frat-bot at Mars U)
Andrew (tiny muggerbot)

There's a few more:
Ruth and Esther
Angelyne
Lulabelle 7 and Daisy Mae 128 K
Monique
Princess Flavia
Lynn
Basil
Emperor Nikolai
The Countess De La Roca (That's Me!  Unless her function is to be an aristocrat.)

Can anyone think of anymore? It seems fembots are more likely to have the names of human females, while manbots generally get named after their primary functions.  

While we're on the subject of Roberto, Futurama has been pretty merciless in killing off its secondary robots recently, hasn't it?  First Gypsybot got her head exploded last year, then Calculon, and now Roberto.   We also saw a few minor robots in Robot Hell, as well as in the graveyard (such as Helper.)   I just hope Gyspybot and Calculon return, I can give or take Roberto.
sparkybarky

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« Reply #111 on: 07-27-2012 05:25 »

Thanks, SpaceGoldfish. But I thought her name was Anglelyne, since she bends coat hangers (making angles). Obviously I have overlooked so many robits.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #112 on: 07-27-2012 05:32 »

Major Derp Moment for me there.  Though you could say the name came first, since it was something her guidance counsellor told her to do, rather then it being her intended function.  Or maybe making angles was something she was always built to do, but making coathangers was the best use for it?  I still can't believe I didn't notice that.  That's going in the fridge Futurama thread.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #113 on: 07-27-2012 05:41 »

And my god, have some people not been watching the same show since the first season? The skin thing wasn't even nearly the most ridiculous thing they've ever done. Not top 100 even.

I mean I get a show having its own rules, etc, but Futurama's have always been pretty loose as it is. You're just not watching the right show if you want strict continuity and scientific accuracy.

Futurama's internal logic and continuity were actually very tight all the way up to the first movie. There were fewer blatant ridiculosities in the first seasons of Futurama, as well. There was a lot of attention to detail, and attention to making the Futuramaverse something we didn't have to suspend much of our natural disbelief in order to enjoy when the show started.

Which seems to have gone out the window in later seasons.

I watched the show religiously in its original run, and I can't think of a single episode where I didn't laugh at something and either think or say aloud "that's ridiculous!" That's...what made it funny.

It's pointless to try to rationalize this show's world. At best it's selective memory. There isn't a scientific or even internal reason that the ship's internal clock (or whatever it was called) gets turned into a pinup calendar when they travel back in time. Even within this show, there's no way you can rationalize that as making any sense. And that's what makes it funny and a great gag.

It's just thinking too hard about it. I can think of a whole bunch of continuity errors in the original run, some of them things the writers probably noticed and just didn't care that much about. The fact that characters had previously mentioned Star Trek, that Bender's percentages added up to more than 100 percent, that French was a "dead language" except when it wasn't, that Zoidberg apparently had alive parents even though they should have died breeding...I mean I could go on. The writers ignored them because they weren't important to the overarching world of the show.

In the very first episode, Bender re-attaches his arms in a way that's literally impossible (and no one give me the line about how his arms can control themselves from afar; from the framing of the scene and Fry's reaction, it's pretty obvious that the writers themselves had not established that and that for the sake of the joke they were assuming otherwise), and an offhand line by Fry basically writes it off as intentionally absurd and doesn't even try to explain it. That's what made it funny. And it was a pretty clear tip off from the writers about the level of internal logic and consistency that the show would have. Which is to say, not a tremendous amount, and a really good joke will (generally) trump everything else.
SolidSnake

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« Reply #114 on: 07-27-2012 06:02 »

I honestly believe I am one of the only people to still 100% enjoy Futurama. Shame. You all expect to be treated to an amazing masterpiece. Let the show do it's thing guys.
Agreed  hmpf . I really liked this episode! The Zoidberg Brain Song (Monster Mash Parody) was one of the best songs they had on the show!! I enjoyed all the episodes of this season! So far!  eek

(Thief of Baghead would have to be the lowest this season for me, probably because of the cheap-jokes they used on the third act, and how it overall turned out. Pretty good, but definitely should have been better)
Imy

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« Reply #115 on: 07-27-2012 08:41 »

Upon a second viewing, the flaws bother me to no end. I'm dropping my score from 7/10 to 4/10
DannyJC13

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« Reply #116 on: 07-27-2012 11:00 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2012 11:02 »

About tnuk's graph: The end of S6 is on par with the end of S3. Show's still good.

I'm in that same boat. Your continued optimism is why you're one of my favourite commenters on PEEL, so I respect you for that. smile

Thank you. smile

And I strongly agree with DotheBartman, I don't recall any rule or anything being set in stone in the show's universe, it's a cartoon, it does crazy stuff. It'd be boring otherwise.
Svip

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« Reply #117 on: 07-27-2012 11:04 »

The show did contradict canon and continuity during the original run as well.  But we accept that for the purpose of the jokes.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #118 on: 07-27-2012 12:18 »

Good stuff that I didn't mention:


*The firing tie.
*"I will be evaluating each of you, and the lowest rated employee, possibly Zoidberg, will be fired at sundown. Zoidberg."
*Bender and Fry hold a box that reads "Ashes for Space Burial".
*"My job? Toilets and boiler, boilers and toilets. Plus that one boilin' toilet."
*"I've already notified the Central Bureaucracy. They'll be here two seconds ago."

And that's in the first 2 minutes alone.
hobbitboy

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« Reply #119 on: 07-27-2012 12:35 »

Next stop - Call-back Town.

Best episode (so far) of the series for me. I give it a high 8/10.

Is Amy's complaint in the shower a Silence of the Lambs reference?

Also, Amy got a lot of line this time. Nice.

Don't hate me, Trinity.  I'm just the messenger.
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