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Total Voters: 77

DannyJC13

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« on: 07-26-2012 04:35 »

Have yet to watch, but for some weird reason I'm awake so yay here you go.
MuchAdo

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« Reply #1 on: 07-26-2012 04:37 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 06:10 »

An 10/10..  comparing it with other season seven episodes.

But an 9.5/10 overall (rounded up for polls).. for yet another classic Ken episode.

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What happened to my review??!!?!?!?!?!

It got deleted instantly... f*ck that, I ain't re-writing it.

I was gonna put it all in spoiler tags if you had just simply waited 5 seconds.. .. I was having errors getting the sh*t to work right.

SWEET ZOMBIE JESUS... I DON"T WANT TO LIVE ON THIS PLANET ANYMORE.


JUST KNOW IT WAS THE BEST OF THE SEASON.. thus far.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #2 on: 07-26-2012 04:37 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 04:41 »

It was actually much, much better than I expected! It seems like all the expected to be underrated episodes turn out to be very well-written. It seems that the crew has finally got back into the groove of writing, and has improved for the better! Seems that a lesser workload has made for higher-quality episodes.

Of course, this is just an initial impression...

By the way, I translated the alien language in the episode (first time I ever translated the language, and during its premiere, too!), and I got the following:
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #3 on: 07-26-2012 04:38 »

I enjoyed Zoidberg in this one.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #4 on: 07-26-2012 04:42 »

MuchAdo, we really don't like such foul language on this forum. While this board is not necessarily for children, it's pretty classless, ya know?
GabeNewell

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« Reply #5 on: 07-26-2012 04:53 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 05:23 »

RIP In Peace Roberto

Best of the season all right. Very smart. I loved every single joke and it's obvious how hard they worked on this episode.

The best part was the monster mash parody.

10/10 I guess, will probably go down after multiple viewings

Also:
>RIP Dying Unit 44
I literally coughed up blood I laughed so hard at that
SolidSnake

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« Reply #6 on: 07-26-2012 04:55 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 04:59 »

Loved this ep!!! The Zoidberg Song was just.....GREAT! (obvious Monster Mash parody) I love every thing about this episode!

10/10
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #7 on: 07-26-2012 05:25 »

Okay... this is probably the best episode since TLPJF.

I'll do a more in-depth review later.
Jezzem

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« Reply #8 on: 07-26-2012 05:37 »

This episode was really good, it just seemed like it was a fun story rather than a big epic one or something. I liked that it had a crazy sci-fi plot while staying mostly in NNY and the Planet Express building.

Once again, this episode had lots of great jokes. I loved the fact that Zoidberg thinks that he and Hermes are friends and I couldn't stop laughing at Fry's response to Amy during Zoidberg's musical number.

9/10
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #9 on: 07-26-2012 05:47 »

10/10.


WTF happened to my review??!!?!?!?!?!

It got deleted instantly... fuck this place.

I was gonna put it all in spoiler tags if you had waited 3 seconds .. fucking prick mods... deleted all my shit!!!!



JUST KNOW IT WAS THE BEST OF THE SEASON.

Oh stop whining. You posted spoilers and SAID they were spoilers but inexplicably didn't use spoiler tags. The only thing I did was add spoiler tags. If that interfered with something else you wanted to do, tough luck. Try making your original post follow the rules (rules you ADMITTED you were breaking).
MuchAdo

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« Reply #10 on: 07-26-2012 05:53 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 06:12 »

Unture... you deleted all the good stuff I wrote.

Although, I se you thought you were doing good.... you made me cry.

I saw what I had quickly written... it looked dumb so i went in depth.

As I was editing it... you as well must have been editing (at the same time).... so it deleted (never posted) at least 20 sentences of fresh, good, and competent review.

Comparing this ep in depth to "How Hermes Req. His Groove Back".

Why don't you please, please, wait three seconds next time you edit away people's posts.

Damn write I'm mad (get it?)... I wrote for fifteen minutes and you swipe it all away with a click of a mouse.

Thank You So Much... for taking away my freedom of speech.

Oh, but I broke the rulez b/c I was fixing my post.. give me a break, no really, please give me a break.

Your bad, and you should feel bad.

JK, on that last sentence.

MuchAdo, we really don't like such foul language on this forum. While this board is not necessarily for children, it's pretty classless, ya know?

I think you meant to say... YOU, don't like it.... obviously some do b/c...

I see people swear on here all the time... but most importnatly I've even been called out for censoring my swear words on here, geeezzz, I love you beautiful hypocrites.

I censored 'em for ya.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #11 on: 07-26-2012 05:56 »

Okay, here we go:

Ken Keeler has done it again. This episode has it all; great plot, great character development, great jokes, and unexpected twists.

The dynamic between Hermes and Zoidberg has barely been explored since season 2, and even then it was only throwaway gags. Here, we see some real mentions of Hermes' hatred towards Zoidberg. When he was collecting the old body parts and making a puppet, it never occurred to me that he might put his brain in and the restore the original Hermes. That was an excellent twist.

Another big plus is the episode didn't feel rushed at all. Everything flowed at a realistic pace, unlike many episodes from the new run (most notably ATPH, Neutopia, and GITM).

There wasn't much Fry, Bender or Leela involved, but enough to make them part of a story that focuses on Hermes and Zoidberg without feeling like space occupiers. All the other characters were placed perfectly. The cameos from The Organ Dealer, Ron Whitey ,and the Robot Devil were fantastic, and having Roberto used as the antagonist was a great callback to Insane in the Mainframe (additionally, I loved what it said on his tombstone.  laff ) I really hope he'll be coming back. He's too great of a character to die.

There were plenty of great gags throughout. Bender pulling out the Professor's teeth, then dropping them down again was classic. And the "It's funny because it's mean" line had me rolling as well. The best part though was probably Bender's reaction to Fry commenting on how shiny Mega-Hermes' ass was.

One other thing I loved was the way it cut from "I'll never see Hermes again!" to "At least I'll never see Zoidberg again."

All in all, this episode is pretty much perfect. Definite 10/10.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #12 on: 07-26-2012 06:00 »

Was I watching the same episode everyone else did?  Because that episode really sucked and was way, way, way, to predicable.  I saw that Roberto thing coming from a mile away. This was like when Homer got the hair wig from Snake. I'm not trolling this is the way I feel about this episode. I guess I already saw the good episodes for this season, the last 3 sucked ass. I'm going to wait till Netflix to see the rest.

*Ranting stops now*
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #13 on: 07-26-2012 06:01 »


Then again, it looks like they're going to  retcon the ruination Mars underwent, so hey. Maybe anything (regretably) goes.
GabeNewell

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« Reply #14 on: 07-26-2012 06:06 »

Was I watching the same episode everyone else did?  Because that episode really sucked and was way, way, way, to predicable.  I saw that Roberto thing coming from a mile away. This was like when Homer got the hair wig from Snake. I'm not trolling this is the way I feel about this episode. I guess I already saw the good episodes for this season, the last 3 sucked ass. I'm going to wait till Netflix to see the rest.

*Ranting stops now*

Yes this episode is 1/10 compared to the masterpiece which was Decision 3012
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #15 on: 07-26-2012 06:09 »

Please don't tell me you're taking homerjaysimpson seriously.
GabeNewell

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« Reply #16 on: 07-26-2012 06:12 »

Please don't tell me you're taking homerjaysimpson seriously.

Of course I am, why would somebody lie on an anonymous forum?
sparkybarky

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« Reply #17 on: 07-26-2012 06:13 »

I LOVED it. If there is ever a PEEL convention can we all do the Zoidberg/Monster Mash/solo harmonizing dance?

I think this is the third Hermes-centric episode, right? If that's true, it's funny because I can say I am very fond of all three.

It's nice to see Zoidberg getting some laughs and approval, instead of the ususal derision.


I will post more in depth commentary tomorrow.

Wah-yooooo....wah wah wah yooooo....


MuchAdo

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« Reply #18 on: 07-26-2012 06:14 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 06:15 »

His (homerjaysimpson) posts are awful today... but at least he can say what he wants without it being deleted/never let posted.

I respect his opinion... no matter how dumb it sounds.

This one rocked, Zoidberg got his song... I figured Ken felt it was finally time.
sparkybarky

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« Reply #19 on: 07-26-2012 06:49 »

homerjay, why not respectfully agree to disagree?
totalnerduk

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« Reply #20 on: 07-26-2012 06:52 »

Well, this one's another 6/10 for me. It started out brilliantly, went to some great places, and then fell flat in the last act. Not only was the outcome of the episode pretty obvious from quite early on, but there was another indication that the writers intend to keep screwing with continuity the way that a sex addict keeps going back to the dirtiest whore in town, even though he knows that her sex parts are a festering soup of diseases.

Seriously, Futurama staff, you used to be good with this continuity stuff.

Also, since when does spicy food melt metal? Cartoon logic of that sort isn't really what I expect from Futurama, and it's somewhat jarring to see it used like that. Which is another reason this episode lost a lot of points for me.

It has stuff I liked, which is where it clawed back a few points (without the following it would have scored much lower):

  • Zoidberg actually doing well as a comedian.
  • Hermes' cylon penis.
  • The crazy street surgeon from "My Three Suns".
  • Alien Language background joke!
  • The faded colour thing. Made me chuckle.
  • Hermes' nifty little stamp. Bureaucrats get all the best gadgets.

Those all raised my enjoyment of the episode, and felt more like the original run of Futurama. I can see that the show as it was is probably not going to make a real comeback and that episodes like TLPJF are now going to be few and far between, but at the moment it's still worth sticking with, I think. If that changes, well... I'll probably not stop watching the stuff I've got on DVD, but at the same time I'll be unlikely to buy Season 7 on DVD. I think that somewhere along the line, a subtle change of direction took place and I'm still adjusting. We'll see if I'm still a fan of Futurama by the time that Season 7 finishes airing.

DotheBartman

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« Reply #21 on: 07-26-2012 07:03 »

I didn't have any particular expectations for this episode one way or the other, but wow that was terrific.

Kitchen Records: June-August 3012
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« Reply #22 on: 07-26-2012 07:13 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 07:23 »

They killed ROBERTO?!?!?! First Calculon, now this??? What in Robot Hell is going on this season?!?!? mad

<Insert 5 paragraph angry rant tirade here>

They definitely lost their pizazz with the jokes. They don't understand when to end one. Like with Hermes bringing out classic Zoidberg hatred. That was funny the first line or two, then Zoidberg had to call it out...okay...that's pushing it a little for the seasoned fans...but then Hermes makes another Zoidberg crack. And it continues on in the first act. Why are the writers treating the fans like idiots? I am getting annoyed. I have seen them do this in other episodes this season, too.

Still watching 2nd and 3rd acts but don't wanna lose what I wrote so far..

Oh Randi, when will you learn to watch the whole episode before you begin reviewing...

Just saw the second act. Mehhhh. But at least Roberto is coming back! Here we come third act!
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #23 on: 07-26-2012 07:23 »

Terrible episode. Overly cartoony. As soon as you mutilate Hermes pike that, you know that bringing him back to form is going to be stupid and cheezy. How did Hermes somehow come back to life? Cartoon logic. Boourns.

1/10
Spacedal11

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« Reply #24 on: 07-26-2012 07:24 »

Episode isn't over for me yet but I do always love when Fry rejects Leela's sexual advances.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #25 on: 07-26-2012 07:29 »

I love that they somehow took the longstanding joke about Hermes' irrational hatred of Zoidberg and actually made a credible plot point out of it. It was actually a little bit sweet.

And just the way the whole thing came together at the end and Hermes learns his lesson in that really bizarre Futurama way...great, great stuff.

Not a runaway classic, but I think it's easily in the running for best of this season. I kinda can't wait to watch it again.
soylentOrange

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« Reply #26 on: 07-26-2012 07:34 »

decent ep.  Not fantastic, but enjoyable enough. 
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« Reply #27 on: 07-26-2012 07:39 »

Alright I am pissed again mad

Really? I thought Roberto was coming back. But no let's just kill off one of my favorite background characters because we don't care about reusable characters this season mad

The plot itself was very meh and kinda annoying. I liked the first act, but I kinda knew this would be one of those episodes with an "agenda" which I am starting to hate.

I am really colored about this episode because of the whole Roberto thing. If I don't consider that it's still a very meh episode, 5 or 6 at best. This season is turning out to be the worst season yet.
Spacedal11

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« Reply #28 on: 07-26-2012 07:40 »

I was distracted by one of my favorite episodes of American Dad to fully appreciate it, (Tears of a Clooney for those dying to know), so I'm gonna catch it again at midnight.

I didn't...love it. I liked some ideas but none of them fully developed. I liked the Zoidberg comedian thing, they could have done more with that B-plot. I also enjoyed the subtle moments of Bender getting upset about Hermes upgrades. Fry's minor moments in this were fantastic. And I love the Professor's crazy laugh.

And yeah what is with killing off these robot characters? Me thinks maybe this is building up to something later on? *Crossing my fingers*.
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« Reply #29 on: 07-26-2012 07:42 »

Building up to killing the show perhaps?
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #30 on: 07-26-2012 07:47 »

I love Fry in his turtleneck.  I wasn't crazy about the song at first until Fry told Amy [me] to lighten up, so I did.  It's really easy to slip into excessively-critical mode.

This Episode was a lot of fun and it didn't feel rushed at the end like some have this season.  As tnuk said, there were some cool gadgets and tech on display from the bureaucrats, which I love.  Zoidberg playing doll with Hermes' body parts in his dumpster was touchingly pathetic.

Yeah, I liked it.  I'll have more to say after watching it again at midnight, but I expect this to grow on me like every episode does.
GabeNewell

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« Reply #31 on: 07-26-2012 07:47 »

Terrible episode. Overly cartoony. As soon as you mutilate Hermes pike that, you know that bringing him back to form is going to be stupid and cheezy. How did Hermes somehow come back to life? Cartoon logic. Boourns.

1/10

As a neurosurgeon, I can confirm that this episode was 100% scientifically accurate.
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #32 on: 07-26-2012 07:50 »

And yeah what is with killing off these robot characters? Me thinks maybe this is building up to something later on? *Crossing my fingers*.
The second coming of Robot Jesus, who will raise the robot dead.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #33 on: 07-26-2012 08:01 »

Not only was the outcome of the episode pretty obvious from quite early on, but there was another indication that the writers intend to keep screwing with continuity the way that a sex addict keeps going back to the dirtiest whore in town, even though he knows that her sex parts are a festering soup of diseases.
Wait... I must have missed something. Where were the continuity errors?
Fnord
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« Reply #34 on: 07-26-2012 08:07 »

RIP In Peace Roberto

Twice.

For a moment there, I thought they were going to pull out Calculon's body from the grave, and then I realized they'd probably go for Roberto instead (since he was part of the episode).

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There were some chances for references to "Young Frankenstein", but they didn't do it. ("Whose brain did I use?" "Abbie ... Abbie Normal.")

Did anyone notice that when Zoidberg used the Hermes puppet for surgery, that he did the ventriloquism in the doctor's voice?

Why doesn't Judge Whitey live in a mansion any more? (I can just hear him saying: "An apartment is a place where poor people live.")
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« Reply #35 on: 07-26-2012 08:31 »

Nice observation about Judge Whitey there...perhaps that is one of his many homes though, depending on where his location for the week.
Professor Zoidy

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« Reply #36 on: 07-26-2012 08:32 »

Maybe Judge Whitey has a rental there for weekends or maybe he was goofing off during a business trip? Who can say? I would consider the houses more like individual condos more than apartments. I'd have to review the episode to say for sure.  Euhhh anywho, to my actual feelings on this episode. Long story short: I liked it. It was lighthearted, well-paced (even if the plot was a tad obvious) and felt a lot like classic Futurama because it didn't blatantly spell out sex jokes. Sure, the digs between Zoidy and Hermes were a bit much and I thought the Monster Mash song parody was a tad cheesy but I'm sure over time it'll grow on me. One of the brightest of this season.

8/10
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #37 on: 07-26-2012 08:46 »
« Last Edit on: 07-26-2012 08:48 »

Was okay.

Pro:
- The spot-on Futurama episodes work better for than those trying to spoof too much.
Fortunately, the "Human turning into a machine" classic theme was approached in a direct way.
- Zoidberg worked well as a comedian. It was not a very special or clever plot, but somehow, the "don't do too much" attitude applied here, too.
- The supporting characters (Fry, Leela, Bender, Amy) were jused in just the right quantity:
Not forcefully adding a subplot, but -as co workers at Planet Express- showing the necessary presence:)
- Farnsworth once again acting as a villain-y mad scientist. Liked the Frankenstein reference.
- Using Roberto's brain was predictable, but in a positive way.

Con:
- Hermes Brain ending in his body again was also rather predictable, but not in a good way (I'm not saying I didn't like that twist. It should just been told in a more surprising way.)
- Killing Roberto finally by melting all components. They could have just left the robot brain stay intact. The "hinting that the supposedly dead villain/monster can return for later episodes" is a venerable Horror trope after all, and fitting in the "Frankenstein" setting.
- The "spicy food to save the day gag" was a bit to cheap for me. Would have prefered a more surprising punchline.

All in all, a rather solid episode.

Oh yeah, and this

I love Fry in his turtleneck.  

What are you, gay? tongue
Imy

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« Reply #38 on: 07-26-2012 08:50 »

Best part of the episode was
"Geez, loosen up Amy"

7/10
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« Reply #39 on: 07-26-2012 08:54 »

I liked how clean the dirty jokes were.
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