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PEE Poll: What's your rating for this episode?
1 - Poopy!   -2 (2%)
2   -2 (2%)
3 - I've had worse, but I can't remember when.   -2 (2%)
4   -1 (1%)
5 - Decent!   -4 (4%)
6   -8 (8%)
7 - Pretty darn good!   -20 (20%)
8   -25 (25%)
9 - Great!   -29 (29%)
10 - One of the best episodes EVAR.   -7 (7%)
Total Voters: 100

Louiswuenator

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« Reply #80 on: 06-22-2012 20:26 »

I think I'm the only person on the planet who enjoyed the Fry B-plot...
No, you're not.  I liked it too.  I didn't need it to be anything more than what it was.  smile
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« Reply #81 on: 06-22-2012 20:29 »

Yep, not a very big plot, but sufficient.
Also, I liked how the writers used Leela in the episode:
That character was expected to do some sceptical nagging, as well as going "Awww...how cute" when it turned out that Bender did all right as a father (for Bender standards, at least wink ).
Not more unnecessary stuff, just what was expected from that character.
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« Reply #82 on: 06-22-2012 23:17 »
« Last Edit on: 06-22-2012 23:39 »

I felt Wanda Sykes was wasted in this episode.  Bev really wasn't as funny as she should have been, and her lines felt a bit forced and unfunny.  Wanda was clearly trying the best with what she had been given... but the effect was still... meh.

Let's face it, we were expecting a reset button, and I guess they handled it better then I thought they would.  Not as good as they should have done, but still.  I can't see Ben being very popular, since characters of his type (child of an established chracter put in many years after a show's run) usually end up being loathed.  

I was glad to see Ruth and Esther back, they are two of my favourite new characters.  Esther's line about the screwdriver was probably one of the best moments for me tonight.

Also... I guess since Amy is now settled and married to Kiff and no one wants Petunia's leathery goodies, LaBarbara is now going to be the source of all the "slut" jokes.  I liked it much better when they had her as a loving wife, and I thought Neutopia was a return to that.
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« Reply #83 on: 06-22-2012 23:52 »

Amy and Kif aren't married, they are Phon Phon Ru'ed or however it's spelled. In the earlier season's episode where they broke up for a while Amy was pretty sure they are not the same.
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« Reply #84 on: 06-23-2012 00:19 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 00:49 by totalnerduk »

I felt Wanda Sykes was wasted in this episode.  Bev really wasn't as funny as she should have been, and her lines felt a bit forced and unfunny.

Bev was a collection of racial and gender stereotypes (which as a black lesbian comedian with a history of being openly subversive and controversial, Sykes may have found hilarious to be playing, come to think of it) which ultimately boiled down to "neglectful, wantonly promiscuous (and by today's standards, that's saying something), self-absorbed, uncaring baby-factory". She was neither a sympathetic character nor a well-rounded one. All of her lines sounded forced because she was intended to drive emotional and humour responses from the audience, but in the absence of traits which are endearing or naturally produce an empathy response, she came off as crass and unconnected to the parts of the episode that we cared about.

She wasn't as much of a character as she was a plot device, a piece of machinery, and a convenient contrast to Bender's "evil robot with a good soul". That's why she sounded forced and wasn't funny. All her lines could have been printed from a small diagnostic machine and delivered by other characters in a deadpan monotone. Bev herself could have been limited in her vocalisations to beeping, like R2-D2.

That would probably have worked better. Next time that Futurama decides to get a black actor (caqn we call them blactors?) to voice a robot character, I'd really like that character to a) not sound like a watermelon-chomping cariacature, and b) not act like one. What with all the parallels that can be drawn at this point between robots in the Futuramaverse and black slaves prior to emancipation in the US, it's actually quite an uncomfortable and disturbing component of this episode. Had they used a white actress (whacktress? I like that word), or at least a blacktress who didn't sound obviously black, perhaps it wouldn't have seemed like a set of racial sterotypes was being projected through Bev.

Which would have meant that the episode would score more highly for me. That said, it's not a major nitpick with the episode... it does a good enough job in other respects that I can embrace it as reasonable quality entertainment.
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« Reply #85 on: 06-23-2012 00:37 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 00:39 »

It depends really.  If all that was needed to transform Bev from a welfare queen stereotype to a racist welfare queen stereotype was a black voice actress, then it certainly makes the issue a bit more complex.  I think from Wanda Sykes's point of view, she didn't feel like she should exclude herself from a role, since the character she is voicing isn't black.  Bev is a robot after all.  She doesn't even have skin.  Was Syke's point of view is that the colour of her skin should not matter if she was voicing a character without any skin whatsoever?  It really depends how willing we as viewers are going to apply real world politics to the Futurama verse.

I agree, if they had cast an actress with a less distinctive voice as Bev, it probably would have come across less... racist.  They could have cast a voice actress with a Texan accent, and we would have another stereotype, the trailer trash hillbilly mommy, which might have pissed less people off but would have still come across as quite insensitive.  I agree, Bev wasn't very funny.  If you are going to make a character like that, at least make her hilarious.   It's a shame, because Wanda Sykes could have been one of the most funny and memorable guest stars Futurama has had.  She's no Bea Arthur as Femputor, sadly, and the fault is with the script, not her.
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« Reply #86 on: 06-23-2012 00:47 »

I'd just like to point out that Unmentionable's opinions cannot be taken seriously or into consideration since he does not regard any aspect, plot point or joke in the show besides Fry. This is no way to give a serious/honest/genuine opinion since it is based around one character and one character alone. Also, his personal feelings make these thoughts very biased anyway.

That is all.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #87 on: 06-23-2012 00:55 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 01:04 »

Let's not start things again.  

We were discussing Bev's crappiness as a character.  

Speaking of Bev, I don't get why they didn't just bring back Amana.  They already had a sassy black woman food related robot.  They could have just said that she installed new voice software, if they really felt like they had to have Wanda Sykes and not Dawn Lewwis.

I also thought the gang's spitefulness towards Fry was quite annoying.  It contrasted with my other gripe about the next episode
leiapadme77

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« Reply #88 on: 06-23-2012 01:01 »

I said 7/10

It probably deserved an 8, but A Farewell to Arms overshadowed it a bit for me.

I don't have many complaints. I don't think it should've been the season opener, not really strong enough for that.
This was definitely cute, and it had an old Futurama feel to it. I love Bender, and I love whenever he grows a heart and does cute things like this smile
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #89 on: 06-23-2012 01:02 »

If I had my way, Farewell to Arms would have been a two parter and the season opening.  Or season ending if you want to keep things Suspenseful. 
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« Reply #90 on: 06-23-2012 01:18 »

Amy and Kif aren't married, they are Phon Phon Ru'ed or however it's spelled. In the earlier season's episode where they broke up for a while Amy was pretty sure they are not the same.

The writers have indicated that it's definitely intended to be the same as marriage.  Her statement downplaying its significance doesn't reflect the writers indicating that they aren't married, it's indicating that Amy is still an immature and loose woman.
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« Reply #91 on: 06-23-2012 01:27 »

Or it could be that legally, it's not considered a marriage, so they don't have to get a divorce, since their union is not considered legally binding by Earth law.  Or both. 

I don't think Amy is loose though.  At least not anymore.  She's not the college bicycle anymore, at least.  I get the feeling that Amy's bed hopping and social butterflying was to make up for what was probably a very lonely and depressing adolescence and childhood as the fat rich girl.
leiapadme77

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« Reply #92 on: 06-23-2012 01:47 »

Or it could be that legally, it's not considered a marriage, so they don't have to get a divorce, since their union is not considered legally binding by Earth law.  Or both. 

I don't think Amy is loose though.  At least not anymore.  She's not the college bicycle anymore, at least.  I get the feeling that Amy's bed hopping and social butterflying was to make up for what was probably a very lonely and depressing adolescence and childhood as the fat rich girl.

Second^

Let's just pretend Proposition Infinity never actually happened. Like the Holiday Spectacular. Or the Star Wars Holiday Special...
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #93 on: 06-23-2012 02:35 »

PI was one of my favourite episodes of the new run.  We can forget Craptacular though.

Also, was it me or did Ruth and Esther get much better zingers then the ones they wrote for Bev, whose whole sthtick was being a sassy black robot? 
FishyJoe

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« Reply #94 on: 06-23-2012 04:06 »

Question for people who disliked Bev for being a racial stereotype:

What part of her character, aside from having a black voice actor, made her a distinctly black stereotype?

I've only seen the episode once, so maybe there is something that I missed. But she was just your standard trashy welfare queen stereotype. Trashy welfare queens can be any color! There was nothing there that made the character black, to me...aside from the voice. Perhaps Futurama's producers should institute a "no black voice actors" policy, so that they don't look racist.

And for what it's worth, I typically defend the haters' right to hate on new episodes here on PEEL...but Unmentionable's hate is so over the top that it sounds to me like he is joking/trolling.  But if he's sincere, then hey, more power to him.
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #95 on: 06-23-2012 04:18 »

Trashy welfare queens can be any color! There was nothing there that made the character black, to me...aside from the voice. Perhaps Futurama's producers should institute a "no black voice actors" policy, so that they don't look racist.
Agreed.  The only thing that bothered me about Bev was that she wasn't Amana.

And for what it's worth, I typically defend the haters' right to hate on new episodes here on PEEL...but Unmentionable's hate is so over the top that it sounds to me like he is joking/trolling.  But if he's sincere, then hey, more power to him.
If he's trolling, then he is doing a very thorough job.  I saw a comment on Futurama's facebook page from someone with the last name Unmentionable that sounded exactly the same as what he posted here - grammar, content, lack of proper capitalization and the obsession with Fry and all.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #96 on: 06-23-2012 04:28 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 04:43 »

I don't see Bev as black, because she''s not a member of a species that sports gooey, fleshy skin, but I can see why some people might accuse her of being a racist stereotype.   But I'm glad I'm not the only one who think they should have brought back Amana for this rather then coming up with such a similar character. I don't dislike Bev really, I just think she could have been a much more interesting and memorable character, the way Bea Arthur was as the Femputor.

Cease hitting Femputor!  

Also, on a minor note, but why did Bender seem to be instantly put off by Bev?  From what I can gather, is that the more typically feminine fembots like Ruth and Esther are seen as ten a penny floozies, while gigantic, hulking ones like the Crushinator/Amana/the robot stripper/robot stripper with a boa are considered the height of fembot beauty, and are considered far more attractive and desirable then say, Lulabelle 7 Daisie May something K.  I should probably watch the episode again, but Bender did make a lot of jokes about Bev's weight and size, when in the past he would have said the same things as compliments to the Crushinator or the Planet Express Ship.   Mind you, he does seem disgusted by the fat fembot in Bendless Love, but on the whole he seems to like big bot booty.  Or I should rewatch it again, because I can't remember who pissed who off first.  If Bev annoyed him first, then it would just because he found her personality so abrasive.   Bender does seem to be sexually attracted to giant hulking fembots like the Crushinator and the Planet Express Ship, but romantically, he seems to prefer gentle feminine ones like Angeline and the Countess.   (His relationship with the Ship seems to be mostly lust on his part, rather then genuine romantic attraction, hence his callous behaviour towards her when he stopped finding her attractive.)
hopie4ever

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« Reply #97 on: 06-23-2012 13:56 »

Recycled fry drinking large amount of drink saves day storyline and lack of reason to care about Bender's son (let's face it, it has been well demonstrated that Bender's "emotional connections" are tenuous at best and bending college is an installation CD) are my main criticisms of this episode.  I did enjoy the opening but the post fox episode seasons do tend to have a big budget opening.
Also people need to learn to rate episodes as episodes of futurama and not episodes of tv, seems people will write a fairly critical review and vote an 8 or 9 or even a 10, that gives a very narrow scope and no real room for discrimination
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #98 on: 06-23-2012 14:16 »

I think the "fairly critical reviews" are easier to write when overall you enjoyed the show. Much quicker to mention the one or two things that you didn't like while saying it was a good episode, than to list every single thing you did like.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #99 on: 06-23-2012 17:16 »

This ep was ACE. I'm not a huge fan of Bender, but he does have his moments, and he was brilliant in this episode. Just the right mix of jerk/nice guy. His "nice" moments didn't seem forced either, but derived out of his actual personality. And his kid was awesome; shame we'll probably never see him again.

One nitpick: okay, Fry and Leela are pretty much together. Am I right? If so, why the HELL didn't she say something when everybody told Fry to get lost? This is one of the show's few flaws for me: Fry and Leela seem to be a couple only when the writers want them to be. All I'm asking for is consistent characterization. It's a bit off-putting when the relationship is sacrificed for the sake of a gag. That's what crappy shows do. Futurama should be better than that. Still, that flaw isn't a show-killer for me. I still really liked this ep. Even though I cannot stand Wanda Sykes. 9/10.
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« Reply #100 on: 06-23-2012 18:28 »

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this yet, but how awesome is that epic zoom-in-through-space to the ship being chewed by the giant space spider at the beginning of the ep? Reminded me of 'Godfellas'.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #101 on: 06-23-2012 18:42 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 18:44 »

Agreed.  My biggest gripe about Neutopia was how close friends and lovers (especially Fry and Leela) were willing to let each other die a flaming cindery death, in order to win some stupid battle of the sexes thing.   So it bothers me when the relationship is shoved aside for cheap gags.   The whole team felt pointlessly overreactive and spiteful.  Yet in A Farewell to Arms
Onuki

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« Reply #102 on: 06-23-2012 18:59 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 19:01 »

I'd just like to point out that Unmentionable's opinions cannot be taken seriously or into consideration since he does not regard any aspect, plot point or joke in the show besides Fry. This is no way to give a serious/honest/genuine opinion since it is based around one character and one character alone. Also, his personal feelings make these thoughts very biased anyway.

That is all.

i was totally about to tell you off but

Let's not start things again.

fine

But if he's sincere, then hey, more power to him.

Thank You

If he's trolling, then he is doing a very thorough job.  I saw a comment on Futurama's facebook page from someone with the last name Unmentionable that sounded exactly the same as what he posted here - grammar, content, lack of proper capitalization and the obsession with Fry and all.

i'm not trolling. yes i posted that facebook comment. lol i only use proper capitalization in stories

again both of the newest episodes sucked big time with only a few likable sequences. the show isn't even trying to find a common ground among the fans (they only wanna do what sells) or even put thought into what they're making. i hope that the next episode has more appeal than the previous ones. Futurama can do way better than those 2 mostly lame episodes
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« Reply #103 on: 06-23-2012 19:10 »

i was totally about to tell you off but

Tell me off for being right?
Onuki

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« Reply #104 on: 06-23-2012 19:15 »

i'm not saying you're wrong except for the "cannot be taken seriously or into consideration" part but i got an opinion too

i don't wanna quit being a fan of the show just 'cause the staff isn't trying anymore so i'm hoping Wednesday's newest episode doesn't completely blow
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #105 on: 06-23-2012 20:20 »

lol i only use proper capitalization in stories
[snort] How well does that work out for you in the field of academics?

(they only wanna do what sells) or even put thought into what they're making...
...just 'cause the staff isn't trying anymore...
This is a load of horse manure.  I'd like to see you step into the writers room and tell them face to face that "they aren't trying anymore" and that "they don't put thought into what they're making."  Insulting nonsense.
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« Reply #106 on: 06-23-2012 20:30 »

Well, while the episodes I saw tonight were a bit of a disappointment (Bots and Bees wasn't as funny as it should have been, and Farewell to Arms had horrible pacing issues), they are much stronger then 6b.   Their plots were a lot more inventive, and didn't stray too far into topical humor, despite one of them being a parody of a CURRENT THING. 
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« Reply #107 on: 06-23-2012 20:38 »

I gave this episode a 6.  It is solid, but not really noteworthy for me.  The main story line between Bender and his bastard was well done and had a lot of good jokes.  I like episodes when we see Bender show a little bit of heart.  The robot educational video was hilarious.  I liked the "after beer and chicken wings at a local gas station..." part.  That cracked me up.

While the main story was funny, I found the Fry sub plot to be a little stale.  His Slurm obsession reminded me here too much of his coffee obsession in Three Hundred Big Boys.  I enjoyed that plot, but here it just seemed like a retread.  The Rudolph gag at the end wasn't inventive or funny enough to justify the sub plot.

Overall though it was still a solid episode.
Onuki

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« Reply #108 on: 06-23-2012 20:48 »

[snort] How well does that work out for you in the field of academics?

not very good but meh

This is a load of horse manure.  I'd like to see you step into the writers room and tell them face to face that "they aren't trying anymore" and that "they don't put thought into what they're making."  Insulting nonsense.

no it's not. they only care about how many viewers they can get & how much $ they can rake in. they won't admit it but it's probably true. the least they could do is think about ideas that won't turn others off just so the show can be popular. the show has potential to be something other shows could never compare to

i thought the soda glow was pretty cool. i'd drink something like that big grin
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« Reply #109 on: 06-23-2012 20:57 »

no it's not. they only care about how many viewers they can get & how much $ they can rake in. they won't admit it but it's probably true. the least they could do is think about ideas that won't turn others off just so the show can be popular. the show has potential to be something other shows could never compare to

How, pray tell, dost thou knowest this?  Personally I've had a terrible time reading the mind of people I've never met, but if you possess this gift perhaps you can enlighten us?  While there are episodes one may dislike it does not inherently mean the writers are being lazy or have sold out.  There are numerous factors and variables at play here, not the least of which is that the show was off the air for several years.  Another is that newer fans tend to be crabbier than those of us who have been following the show from it's original run.  Maybe it has something to do with what's in the water...
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« Reply #110 on: 06-23-2012 20:57 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 20:59 »

they only care about how many viewers they can get & how much $ they can rake in. they won't admit it but it's probably true.

This is most certainly not true. If they only cared about the money they're making then why would they spend an extra month on checking back over the quality of their episodes, release podcasts and do all of those interviews talking about the new season?

They would not have to do any of those things if they didn't care about the quality of their episodes
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« Reply #111 on: 06-23-2012 21:02 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 21:03 »

Also people need to learn to rate episodes as episodes of futurama and not episodes of tv, seems people will write a fairly critical review and vote an 8 or 9 or even a 10, that gives a very narrow scope and no real room for discrimination

I see what you are saying. I've seen some reviews that go along the lines of "this episode sucked, but still better than 99% of all the other crap on TV, so I give it a 10".

On the other hand, if it's an episode you genuinely enjoyed, why not give it a good score? I voted a 9 for Bots and the Bees. It's not one of my favorite episodes ever--probably not even in my top 25...so going by the "best episode gets a 10, worst episodes gets a 1" rating scale, it should probably be a 7 or something. But that seems too low for an episode that I enjoyed this much.

So I guess I'm sort of in the middle. I rate episodes not compared exclusively to other Futurama episodes, and not compared to every single other crappy show on TV...but I rate episodes compared to the stuff on TV that is good enough for me to normally watch. Of all of the stuff I normally watch on TV, Bots and the Bees was funnier than most of it. I think a 9 is about right.

the least they could do is think about ideas that won't turn others off just so the show can be popular.

Who are these "others" you speak of?

See, that is why I mentioned earlier that I find you a bit troll-ish. It's one thing to have these opinions. It's another thing to act like your opinion is shared by any reasonable percentage of the Futurama fan base.

I totally respect your opinion as far as not liking the show, or whatever. But you have to realize that you are pretty unique, here. Not a lot of people hate the show for the reasons you are saying that you hate it.
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« Reply #112 on: 06-23-2012 21:27 »

the least they could do is think about ideas that won't turn others off just so the show can be popular.

Who are these "others" you speak of?

See, that is why I mentioned earlier that I find you a bit troll-ish. It's one thing to have these opinions. It's another thing to act like your opinion is shared by any reasonable percentage of the Futurama fan base.

I totally respect your opinion as far as not liking the show, or whatever. But you have to realize that you are pretty unique, here. Not a lot of people hate the show for the reasons you are saying that you hate it.

I think Unmentionable qualifies as a troll based on his extremely vocal dislike of the show combined with his declarations that he might stop being a fan at any minute being posted on a board that's filled with the kind of hardcore nerds and sci-fi fans that are the reason the show was able to return from cancellation.

He's the PEEL equivalent of the people (I'm assuming there were some) who thought that Wesley Crusher should have been Captain of the USS Enterprise and the people who fantasised all day long about melting into Han Solo's arms and would quite happily have killed Carrie Fisher for having kissed the actor who played him before them.

Either he's looking for a reaction from people, or he's got severe mental difficulties (to the extent where I think he might require a constant carer). If it's the former, we should ignore him. If it's the latter, we should ignore him and hope that somebody manages to calm him down before he becomes angry enough to start eating spoons. But I think it's the former.

I'm not just trying to be nasty, either. I can qualify this. Spoilered to keep it from cluttering up the thread.


Anyhow, I'm confident that the quality of the season opener will reflect the direction of the show throughout Season 7. It might not be brilliant, but it probably won't suck. Maybe, like Season 6, they'll manage two or three moments of sheer awesomeness that elevate two or three episodes into the top twenty (I definitely would have trouble cutting my favourite episodes of Futurama down to a top ten at this point).

The Bots and the Bees was very much an episode in the pre-cancellation mold, whatever problems it might have had with characterisation (and I'm already regretting giving it s 7 rather than an 8 based on that. I feel like I was a little harsh).

Bring on the rest of the season, CC! I'm ready!
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« Reply #113 on: 06-23-2012 21:37 »

i registered on this site to speak my mind. not to be criticized & insulted

How, pray tell, dost thou knowest this?  Personally I've had a terrible time reading the mind of people I've never met, but if you possess this gift perhaps you can enlighten us?  While there are episodes one may dislike it does not inherently mean the writers are being lazy or have sold out.  There are numerous factors and variables at play here, not the least of which is that the show was off the air for several years.  Another is that newer fans tend to be crabbier than those of us who have been following the show from it's original run.  Maybe it has something to do with what's in the water...

intuition (not always accurate but whatever)

If they only cared about the money they're making then why would they spend an extra month on checking back over the quality of their episodes, release podcasts and do all of those interviews talking about the new season?

They would not have to do any of those things if they didn't care about the quality of their episodes

the better the quality is & promotion = fans = $

Who are these "others" you speak of?

See, that is why I mentioned earlier that I find you a bit troll-ish. It's one thing to have these opinions. It's another thing to act like your opinion is shared by any reasonable percentage of the Futurama fan base.

I totally respect your opinion as far as not liking the show, or whatever. But you have to realize that you are pretty unique, here. Not a lot of people hate the show for the reasons you are saying that you hate it.

it's just an assumption but i refer to myself when i saw "others". i've spoke my mind & don't except anyone to care.

i'm not trolling. if anyone is, it's most definitely other members here.

hell yeah i'm unique & proud of it. i got 3 likes on my facebook comment which i didn't expect. that goes to show that even though i mostly negatively spoke my mind about my issues with Futurama that some do understand my reasons
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« Reply #114 on: 06-23-2012 21:43 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2012 21:58 »

Yes you're right, we're the trolls. Everybody's wrong but you. Three likes on a Facebook comment? Clearly they also do not understand that these two episodes were good compared to the episodes we've been getting for the past two years. I'm sorry, but I think you need to re-watch the episodes.

Also, how hard is it to use capital letters?
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« Reply #115 on: 06-23-2012 21:49 »

Yes you're right, we're the trolls.

oh you got that right

Also 3 likes? Clearly they also do not understand that these two episodes were good compared to the episodes we've been getting for the past two years.

that's pure opinion. i thought those episodes were some of the worse the show has ever created

Also, how hard is it to put in capital letters?

not very but i like Japan
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« Reply #116 on: 06-23-2012 21:52 »

hell yeah i'm unique & proud of it. i got 3 likes on my facebook comment which i didn't expect. that goes to show that even though i mostly negatively spoke my mind about my issues with Futurama that some do understand my reasons



I'm sorry, I forgot that facebook is so finite and matters a hell of beans.
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« Reply #117 on: 06-23-2012 21:53 »

i registered on this site to speak my mind. not to be criticized & insulted

Ah, but the general rule that this is not a Democracy also means that not every opinion or expression is acceptable.  It is not always a good idea to just say whatever occurs to you.  Of course that applies in real life as well.  There are plenty of people who will gladly smack a person who feels they can say anything they want.  I live in the United States and there are many, many, many people here who misunderstand the meaning of "freedom of expression" thinking that it means they can say absolutely anything, anytime, anywhere without consequences.
Onuki

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« Reply #118 on: 06-23-2012 21:57 »

yes there is a difference between speaking your mind & being a jerk.

hell yeah i'm unique & proud of it. i got 3 likes on my facebook comment which i didn't expect. that goes to show that even though i mostly negatively spoke my mind about my issues with Futurama that some do understand my reasons



I'm sorry, I forgot that facebook is so finite and matters a hell of beans.

as if this site really makes valid statements. roll eyes

the fact is, i hope the next episode isn't anything like the previous 2 are
Beanoz4

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« Reply #119 on: 06-23-2012 21:59 »

No don't say that! I don't want them to be bad! You're going to jinx it!
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