Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #80 on: 06-03-2012 19:35 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2012 22:04 »
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Hopefully having Amy there will keep Leela from dominating everything.
Wow, Fry is getting a lot of action or so it would seem. Can't shake the feeling that I'm being buttered up though...
Hm...seems rather like another "female superiority it's okay when the woman does it" double standard in that plotline... Okay..I'm outta that episode. "Butterjunk effect" will be the first Futurama episode I will not even watch once. (There are some aspects BECAUSE of which I watch Futurama, and some aspect DESPITE of which I watch the show...). Edit: It seems Fry will be raped by two man-like girls this season ...
Hooray for the double standard... (I do not wish to criticise you for considering that humor acceptable, I just consider it unacceptable for myself) Just watched IAGGDL again today, and wondered when the ending came: "Okay...and now let's make an alternate end to a Simpsons episode, where Homer beats up and rapes the feminist who wrongfully accused him of sexual harrasment. Marge will cheer for the beating up, and may look displeased when the rape happens, but not allowed to interfere". I have the strict opinion writing wise "If writers do not dare to lash out at one certain direction, they have not earned the right to lash out at ANY". Edith: Just in case you might consider my words harsh: Those were aimed what I consider bad writing. Not towards your opinion or yourself, of course....
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MuchAdo
Professor
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Shit people... looks like you were right about the butter junk making Leela and Amy horny... gee whizzzzz.
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Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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Shit people... looks like you were right about the butter junk making Leela and Amy horny... gee whizzzzz.
The sad thing is: - My guess was not based on "Leela's appearance is different, so her mind might also be affected/different". - I suspected "A buffed up woman will be most certainly used to emasculate the guy(s) around". "Strong Arms of the Ma" already showed the "Rape it's okay when it's Female on Male" double standard, and I just expected the writers to follow the same direction with a buffed up Leela. And -to take her on that path- it was necessary not only to make her stronger, but also hornier. I would have prefered to have been proven wrong about that, though....
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MuchAdo
Professor
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« Reply #89 on: 06-03-2012 21:32 »
« Last Edit on: 06-03-2012 21:34 »
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@ Inqusitor Hein: It reminds me of what happened with Brock Sampson. He was so competent that he instantly removed all peril from any situation and they had to swap him with the flawed Sgt. Hatred. I share your concern over TBE. Leela is a rich character, but is often misused as you say. Hopefully having Amy there will keep Leela from dominating everything.
Wow, Fry is getting a lot of action or so it would seem. Can't shake the feeling that I'm being buttered up though...
Allow me to clarify.. as V Bros. is my obsession.. That's not why they brought Sgt. Hatred on board... it was to shake things up b/c Hatred is down for anything. It had nothing to do with action or sense of peril... it's a comedy first and a fake action show second. Remember Brock never really left anyway.. (he was only gone x amount of months b4 joining Spinx; an organization that's on the compound the whole time) so he was there 'almost' the whole time in secret.. I mean he had to recover from almost dying and get Helper's head removed first... and obviously ends up uncovering Sphinx after his revenge mission.... so not too many months away from the V-Bros. He was guarding over them in secret until they ALL discover Sphinx was there the whole time... and then Hunter gives up on wiping Hank and Deans pink little minds when they get buggy. But who knows where they will go with it in season 5. But anyway.. they brought Hatred in for the comedy.. they make it quite clear on the commentaries. Brocks' a no non-sense kind of guy... Hatred is nothing but non-sense. Anyway season 5 will be quite interesting... as 'Viceroy' is probobaly the new bodyguard.
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MuchAdo
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« Reply #92 on: 06-04-2012 00:05 »
« Last Edit on: 06-04-2012 00:10 »
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I disagree with this. It may be a comedy first and action second, but peril has a part to play. Peril lends itself to comedy, especially physical humor. Sgt. Hatred not being able to wipe the floor with every baddie opens up more possibilities for comedic situations.
What I'm saying is that Brock was in fact there the whole time (watching over the Ventures) and that the finale proved that Brock can't always save everyone anyway and that there is an extreme sense of peril when Brock is being used b/c the stakes are being raised. There was limited peril with Hatred.. it was always done in a way that lent to Dr. Venture getting injured for a story point... never once did I think The Ventures were going to die b/c they had Hatred and not Brock... and Doc and Jackson soon realized that they had done what they wanted to with Hatred and why he is featured so much less in season 4-b. The finale proved you need them all for the absolute most comedy and peril... but mostly Brock... his story arch with Moltov raised the drama and the comedy to new heights... I was screaming at the T.V. for Brock to make it back before midnight... then I laughed my ass off when he was too late and we all saw what happened.... a Hatred ep could never do that.
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Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #103 on: 06-04-2012 07:16 »
« Last Edit on: 06-04-2012 11:48 »
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edit-Also, is there a special designated shipping thread? I can't find one anywhere
Here you go:) http://www.peelified.com/Futurama-Forum-4/Topic-21199-600-Shipping_Even_Higher_into.htmlOk, so....are Fry and Leela NOT together in this season or what? Because I'm starting to get a tiny bit confused....
Well, by now it seems nearly certain that Leela's behaviour is due to the drug. The remaining question is: Were Fry and Leela together before, so the drug just increases Leela's pre-existing erotic interest in Fry, or is it caused completely by the drug? The drawn preview panels in front of the waterfall show Fry acting very surprised when he finally gets why Leela asks him to leave the door unlocked that night. Had they already been a designated couple by that time, Leela wishing to spend the night with him would probably not have been such a surprise for Fry. (On the other hand, he might just act dumb in that scene. About the same way Marge mentioned a special gift for Homer in one Simpsons episode that he will get later, Homer objecting having to wait, demanding to get his gift now with the kids listening, until he finally gets what Marge meant) "The balcony club" scene does not seem to show an "out-of-her-mind-Leela". A "tried to have one last kiss in the face of doom" was already used in X-Mas story, so "tried to have one last night together in the face of doom" is imhO rather similar to that one. So far, none of these two scenes really requires the characters to be an official, commited couple. (I am not saying they could not be...just that we do not have any definite proof from those scenes about these two being together)
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Ugh. This episode has gone from looking bad to just plain awful.
Eh, I don't know how much we can really judge "The Butterjunk Effect" (or any other episode, really) based on the previews we're getting. It seems like Comedy Central likes to provide us with the more sexual, salacious promotional material. Not only does CC figure such promos will most effectively pique our interest (the network's primary demographic is younger gentlemen of not-so-discriminating tastes, I'm guessing), but they also provide an excuse for Matt Tobey to make lame-ass dirty "jokes" in his Countdown posts. The stuff they're showing us from "The Butterjunk Effect" (and "Zapp Dingbat," actually)--all the make-outs and skimpy outfits and whatnot--reminds me a little bit of one of the promo pictures they posted last summer for "Neutopia." It was a still of Fry, Leela, and Amy all cozy in a hammock--meant, I'm assuming, to mislead the fans into thinking that the episode would contain, I don't know, a cuh- raaazy threesome or something. And, of course, nothing of the sort happens in "Neutopia." 'Course, "Neutopia" wound up being kind of a mess, so I probably shouldn't point to it as an example of how CC's previews can make an episode seem worse than it actually is...My point is, I'm reserving judgment on the episodes until they air. I like seeing the promos and whatnot, but they're so decontextualized that--with the possible exception of the video clips--they don't really clue you in on what an episode is about and how good (or bad) it may be. That said, I don't blame you for being troubled by what we've seen thus far of "The Butterjunk Effect"...I'm just trying to remain a bit more optimistic. I suspected "A buffed up woman will be most certainly used to emasculate the guy(s) around". "Strong Arms of the Ma" already showed the "Rape it's okay when it's Female on Male" double standard, and I just expected the writers to follow the same direction with a buffed up Leela. And -to take her on that path- it was necessary not only to make her stronger, but also hornier.
What I hate about "Strong Arms of Ma" is that it had so much potential--Marge is mugged and it totally messes with her head; that could have made for an interesting character study, along the lines of "Fear of Flying" (one of my favorite Simpsons episodes ever)--but instead of trying to tell what might have been a really engaging and resonant story, it goes the cheaper route of buffing Marge up and making trite jokes about steroid use and, like, manly women. Ugh. As far as your point about "The Butterjunk Effect" goes, though: Based on the promos we've seen thus far, your predictions for this episode may very well be correct. Again, though, I'm trying so very hard to reserve judgement; hopefully we'll be proven wrong, and the episode will be refreshingly devoid of gender stereotypes and other tropes. It's a long shot, but you never know...
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Boxy Robot
Starship Captain
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New episode titles: "CALCULON 2.0", "FRY AND LEELA'S BIG FLING", "SATURDAY MORNING FUN PIT". Source.
I guess Calculon 2.0 could be pretty good (I'm guessing this is the second episode of the continuing Calculon story this season) but Fry and Leela's Big Fling sounds pretty lame (I'm also hoping these titles don't confirm the slip into Simpsons-esque episode titles such such as Ned and Edna's Blend Agenda and A Totally Fun Thing That Bart Will Never Do Again...) I was also hoping that Saturday Morning Fun Pit would be the rough title for Naturama but I guess not...
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Just Fan
Starship Captain
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« Reply #119 on: 06-05-2012 17:05 »
« Last Edit on: 06-05-2012 17:23 »
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Yep, all those titles sound extremely cheap for me. ...and this year we're calling our little trilogy the "Saturday Morning Fun Pit"... Also "Saturday Morning Fun Pit" was confirmed to be aired as a non-canon episode this year. What's the deal with " Naturama" then?
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