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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #680 on: 07-05-2012 00:44 »


No snu snu for you!
Dorsal Axe

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« Reply #681 on: 07-05-2012 01:19 »

"Viva Mars Vegas" sounds like an Ocean's Eleven spoof.
(I did not like Ocean's Eleven....frown )
The Simpsons did a parody of Ocean's Eleven not so long ago, and it was... actually rather good. So... this one could be interesting. I don't really care for the film, but the episode was enjoyable, so I wouldn't discount Futurama's take on it just yet.
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« Reply #682 on: 07-06-2012 04:03 »

Free Will Hunting sounds...really good. As I recall, the FOX synopsis for "Obsolutely Fabulous" back in the day ending up being drastically different from the actual final episode, which seemed to suggest that it was heavily reworked; not that one sentence is much to go by, but this sounds a lot more like that original premise than the final version of Obsolutely ended up being. Hope it's good.

Viva Mars Vegas sounds awesome to me. I don't know why it matter if you like the movie or not, anyway. The point isn't to revere the movie, it's to make a funny parody of the premise. Futurama (along with The Simpsons and other shows) has created plenty of funny parodies of things I don't really care for otherwise. And anyway, that's assuming it's a spoof of that anyway, or even the necessarily the Stephen Soderbergh version with George Clooney. That version was a remake of a classic film, remember.

Naturama sounds...hmm. I'm not a fan of trilogy things where the characters aren't at least sort of fundamentally themselves, like on The Simpsons where they play dress up as Mozart or Bible characters or whatever. But there isn't much to go on, anyway. And hey, Reincarnation was amazing.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #683 on: 07-06-2012 08:03 »

Not every one of Futurama's parodies have been good. Anyone remember Bender's Game?
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #684 on: 07-06-2012 08:18 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2012 08:20 »

Nope.  I got a memory enema.

In all seriousness though, I like Bender's game.  I know I'm in the minority on this, but I really like the tone of BG compared to the other three, especially the first two.  The first two were so... serious and kind of gloomy even.  Bender's Game is just so lighthearted and carefree.  Do I care if Mom keeps all of her dark matter?  Not even a little bit.  It was more of a goofy ride, and in that sense it felt more like a standard length episode.  As a game designer, I also really like what it has to say about gaming and the importance of imagination.  Technically, it's the worst of the four though, I'll grant that.
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« Reply #685 on: 07-06-2012 08:34 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2012 08:37 »

Not every one of Futurama's parodies have been good. Anyone remember Bender's Game?

In fact, I consider "Bender's Game" maybe the best movie.
I do not know wether you ever played RPGs, but the movie certainly gains from that insider status.
BG was really spot on, unlike e.g. BBB. The later one imhO tried to parody too much, to give EVERYTHING a new twist/trope/spin. Which did not end as a spoof on a still recognisable original (in that case, it should have been the typical Monster Movie), but just as something weird. And IWGY featured a storyline that -for me- could not find a proper direction/flow during the whole movie.
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« Reply #686 on: 07-06-2012 09:25 »

"Viva Mars Vegas" sounds like an Ocean's Eleven spoof.
(I did not like Ocean's Eleven....frown )

I think the basic concept of Ocean's Eleven was good.  But I will admit, both the original and the remake were not very good.  But I always like a heist plot.  The question is whether the episode will capture what is good about the film, and if it focuses on the heist, it will.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #687 on: 07-06-2012 10:15 »

Maybe it was a little pointless to bring up Bender's Game, because the RPG/LOTR parodies are actually somewhat decent. The bad part is how it all fits together (or rather, how it doesn't all fit together.)
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #688 on: 07-06-2012 10:32 »

When is the damn Fry cover coming out?! >< Isn't he, oh I don't know, A MAIN CHARACTER?!
Do you mean this?
I'm sorry - but season 1?! These covers didn't happen until season 5 >< damnit why do they have to change covers all the time

I'm so excited for Viva Mars Vegas - particularly if there's a heist! I'm assuming Bender is involved x] I love Oceans 11, 12 and 13! <3 Hoping it's like a cross between that and (the original) Italian Job. =D
winna

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« Reply #689 on: 07-06-2012 11:01 »

When is the damn Fry cover coming out?! >< Isn't he, oh I don't know, A MAIN CHARACTER?!

You mean like this?

UnrealLegend

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« Reply #690 on: 07-06-2012 11:03 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2012 11:06 »

That's Fry? I thought it was some kind of outer-space potato man.

Seriously though, something isn't quite right with that image. I can't really pinpoint what though.
Svip

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« Reply #691 on: 07-06-2012 11:59 »

Him getting zapped through the head?
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #692 on: 07-06-2012 12:48 »

The fact that he's the color of raspberry ice cream?
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #693 on: 07-06-2012 12:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-06-2012 17:40 »

The image just features too many unusual aspects:

- Most other characters have a rather normal facial expression, so Fry's surprise/shock immendiatelly draws attention.
- He does not feature his normal Torso (as most of the rest), but rather the strange looking shape of a spacesuit.

Too many unusual, and too little "normal" features about that pic.
Just Fan
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« Reply #694 on: 07-06-2012 13:03 »

I think all the "new" style covers are primitive compared to the original Vol.1-4 ones. Cheap-looking, really. hmpf
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #695 on: 07-06-2012 13:07 »

I also think his hair clashes too much with his skintone.
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« Reply #696 on: 07-06-2012 13:36 »



The fact that he's the color of raspberry ice cream?



- Most other characters have a rather normal facial expression, so Fry's surprise/shop immendiatelly draws attention.



I also think his hair clashes too much with his skintone.


Oh, you mean compared to this?



Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #697 on: 07-06-2012 15:11 »

Well, Leela's expression is rather modest surprise/confusion, with her facial features much less distorted than Fry's.
meisterPOOP

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« Reply #698 on: 07-06-2012 23:51 »

That's Fry? I thought it was some kind of outer-space potato man.

Seriously though, something isn't quite right with that image. I can't really pinpoint what though.
Him getting zapped through the head?
The fact that he's the color of raspberry ice cream?

I believe that is the cover from Season 1A in 1998.

You know the year before Fry got frozen.
Fry's Uncle almost lost his Chancellorship at NNYU after he was spotted marching with a sandwich sign while demonstrating at a Mutant Revolt.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #699 on: 07-07-2012 00:30 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2012 00:33 »

Plus, the color scheme works together so much better.  The image is also centered better, so it sits on the dvd box nicely, rather then being shoehorned in.  It also helps that she's wearing her trademark outfit.  It's a pretty elegant piece of illustration.  The Fry one needs more work. The hair and skintone clash too much, and it's kind of hard to figure out what's going on with it.  What's going through his ears exactly?  Is it meant to be a device, is it a bolt of lightning, is it meant to a metaphorical bolt to represent a horrid realization?  It doesn't really work, while the Leela one does, since it's quite simple but effective.
Madison

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« Reply #700 on: 07-07-2012 22:21 »

I found some images of Zapp Dingbat
and The Six Million Dollar Sun
DannyJC13

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« Reply #701 on: 07-07-2012 22:36 »

Zapp's gonna propose to Munda? eek
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #702 on: 07-07-2012 22:37 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2012 22:38 »

Zapp's gonna propose to Munda? eek

Hm..improbable. That ring won't fit Munda.
My guess is that he rather proposes to Leela, under what circumstances ever..
DannyJC13

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« Reply #703 on: 07-07-2012 22:38 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2012 22:40 »

It looks larger than a normal ring... Large enough to fit the tip of a tentacle...

Plus, it's super obvious. Notice he's in the same room from the image preview where Leela is trying to seduce him away from her mother, and he's facing the same direction that they look in. (AKA where Munda is.)
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #704 on: 07-07-2012 22:47 »

Don't think so. It's probably just a layout/perspective aspect: Zapps hands -reaching towards the viewer- already look bigger than normal compared to his body.The ring is probably just strechted a little more, to show a "center of the scene" role. (And it seems the ring WILL be the scenes key element).

Also, the background does not look like the Morris's sewer home. Of couse he could propose to Munda in Leelas flat, but somehow I just doubt it.

My guess: Zapp is proposing to Leela, gets rejected, considers her a lost cause and starts dating Munda.
Mongo

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« Reply #705 on: 07-07-2012 22:51 »

pointless post
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #706 on: 07-07-2012 23:08 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2012 23:10 »

I prefer to think that Zapp is proposing to himself in the mirror.

As for the size of that ring - even considering the foreshortening, the inner diameter of that ring is considerably larger than Zapp's gloved finger.  It's a big ring.

EDIT:  Also, the blast shutters are down in that image of mecha Hermes.  I wonder what they are trying to keep out, or in.
Madison

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« Reply #707 on: 07-07-2012 23:21 »

Or maybe Leela's plan to seduce Zapp they did misunderstand him. Perhaps then the proposal is for Leela.  hmpf
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #708 on: 07-07-2012 23:45 »

It's clearly a larger than normal ring which is all the confirmation I need that he proposes to Munda.

As for it not looking like a sewer house, that's probably because the mutants can live on the surface now.
MYK

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« Reply #709 on: 07-08-2012 00:19 »


My guess: Zapp is proposing to Leela, gets rejected, considers her a lost cause and starts dating Munda.

There's one problem with that. That looks very similar to the room where Leela (reluctantly) tries to seduce Zapp from the Countdown promo. Assuming it is, Zapp would already be dating Munda in this scene. Plus, if there's one positive quality Zapp possesses, he is very tenacious. Leela has beaten his sorry butt six ways to Saturday multiple times and he still doesn't give up.

A few thoughts on Zapp Dingbat: (Just predictions, don't put any money on these)

-I don't think Munda is the type to cheat on Morris. Neither one of their personalities has been explored very deeply, but Munda and Morris do seem to be loyal to each other. Unless something happens to Morris (or is at least presumed to happen to him) or Morris does something that insults Munda, enough that she'd leave him. Again, this would be out of character for Morris, who is portrayed as friendly, personable, and caring, just like his wife.

-I don't think Zapp will actually be attracted to Munda. The only reason he seems to like Leela is because of her body. Munda doesn't have Leela's physique, she's much older (I would guess around 55) and she's more severely mutated than her daughter. I know Zapp has, er...ambiguous taste in women but I'm half-convinced the only reason Zapp goes after her is purely to upset Leela. Which brings me to my next thought:

-Why would Munda be attracted to Zapp? Leela, although initially flattered by Zapp, realized fairly quickly he was a childish, pompous buffoon. Does Zapp successfully court her or is it one big failure to communicate? (If it is the former, I'll be pretty surprised, even if it involves him fabricating a lot)
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #710 on: 07-08-2012 00:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-08-2012 00:52 »

I really hate that they seem to be breaking up Morris and Munda.  I mean, I'm not a shipper or anything, but the reason they work is because they are devoted to eachother and have been through so much together.  They work as a loving couple, so the idea of breaking them up for a cheap gag is really annoying.   It's even worse then the way they seem to have retconned Labarbara from a loving wife into a skank who cheats on her husband at the first chance she gets.  And after all that time trying to make them into a devoted couple in Neutopia, she's back to cheating on him again.  I guess since Amy is pretty much married, they needed someone to take her place as the butt of all the slut jokes.  Even if Morris and Munda get back together in the usual reset ending, they really will have screwed up the foundation of their characters. 
MYK

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« Reply #711 on: 07-08-2012 05:33 »

Very, very well said. If Munda willingly cheats on Morris and is portrayed negatively it will really annoy me and could likely ruin the episode.

In every episode they've been in so far, Munda and Morris have been the friendly aunt and uncle figure. And they work very well in that respect.

There are a few ways I could see them avoiding portraying Munda negatively:

1. Munda and Zapp date, but it turns out to be a huge misunderstanding/misinterpretation/failure to communicate where Munda never has any romantic or sexual interest in Zapp, and she demonstrates this.
 
2. The shark people attack (because Zapp messes up the treaty-signing) wherever Morris, Fry, and Bender are (From the storyboard promo, I assume they'll be together for a good part of the show) Morris dies, or is at least presumed dead by Munda and Leela. Munda mourns his death/presumed death, and Zapp lies to her to sway her affections towards him (Most likely for the sole reason of upsetting Leela). Munda is attracted to his sympathetic attitude. Remember Leela and Al?

3. Zapp becomes a much darker character and goads Munda into a relationship without her realizing it and she tries desperately to get out of it once she realizes what's happened.

To be honest, however, I don't think they'll portray Munda like Amy or LaBarbara have been. Why? Because she's visibly older than both Amy and LaBarbara. Amy is probably around 27-30, LaBarbara maybe 35-38. Both are portrayed as attractive, still youthful women. Munda is probably around the age of 55 and is a very different character than both Amy and LaBarbara in various aspects. She has a much different attitude, has lived through a lot more (Wisdom and all that), has been in a fairly long marriage with Morris, and would tear the world apart for Leela.

So all in all that's pretty unlikely, but the more unlikely it is, the worse it would be if they actually tried it.
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #712 on: 07-08-2012 06:37 »

Let's discuss the ring size for another 8 pages!
Gorky

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« Reply #713 on: 07-08-2012 13:12 »

Silly man, we can only discuss it for another two pages before the thread is closed!

I really hate that they seem to be breaking up Morris and Munda.  I mean, I'm not a shipper or anything, but the reason they work is because they are devoted to eachother and have been through so much together.  They work as a loving couple, so the idea of breaking them up for a cheap gag is really annoying.

Exactly. They're among my favorite characters on the show, actually, and I wish we saw more of them--which is why I'm still kind of excited for "Zapp Dingbat," even though it could potentially fuck up a couple that I'm emotionally invested in. I don't think the writers would be stupid enough to mess with Munda and Morris's dynamic in an irreparable or otherwise character-destroying way...but they kind of shat on the Amy/Kif relationship without any qualms in "Proposition Infinity," so it's certainly possible that they'll do the same thing with Morris and Munda.

That said, I like this idea:

2. The shark people attack (because Zapp messes up the treaty-signing) wherever Morris, Fry, and Bender are (From the storyboard promo, I assume they'll be together for a good part of the show) Morris dies, or is at least presumed dead by Munda and Leela. Munda mourns his death/presumed death, and Zapp lies to her to sway her affections towards him (Most likely for the sole reason of upsetting Leela). Munda is attracted to his sympathetic attitude. Remember Leela and Al?

Zapp does have a habit of taking advantage of wives in mourning, so I could totally see him cozying up to Munda in the event of Morris's presumed demise. I really find it hard to imagine her willingly and maliciously leaving Morris for Zapp, both because the woman seems to have more sense than that (remember how proud she was when Leela dressed in layers in "Less Than Hero"? She's a no-nonsense kinda lady!) and because I think the writers are smart enough to know that they can't believably contrive some sort of separation-worthy conflict in the Morris/Munda relationship in act one, and have the audience not hate Munda for so quickly bunking with Zapp in acts two and three. Like, from a character and storytelling standpoint, such a story would just seem forced.

If Morris "died," however, that would definitely be a quick way to make Munda single and available for Zapp to seduce--without making the audience hate her, like, a lot. So, yeah, I'm rooting for that option.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #714 on: 07-08-2012 14:32 »
« Last Edit on: 07-08-2012 14:37 »

Sounds good. But I would not put it past the writers to go for the following, predictable route:

Let's just have Morris suddenly act like a complete jerk for no raisin, giving Munda an excuse to be angry to him. Especially as Morris already had a set of pre-existing chaotic character traits (which by now are rather on the harmless/clumsy side, instead of being an a..hole. But the exaggeration of said traits can be tempting for writers).

Well..it's not the first time they have done that with other characters.
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #715 on: 07-09-2012 06:50 »

Saw an ad on CC for ZB.  It featured lots of Leela screaming in horror and Zapp saying, "You can just call me... daddy."  I can't wait!
Tastes Like Fry

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« Reply #716 on: 07-09-2012 08:27 »

This episode I'm not particularly looking forward to. However Futurama has surprised me before...
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #717 on: 07-09-2012 08:55 »

Yeah, I predict "Dingbat" will be very divisive.  Some will like it for excessive Zapp Brannigan.  Hardcore shippers will hate it because it messes with their precious Fwy and Weewa.  Wait!  I'm a hardcore shipper!  I'll make me eat those words!

Also, it's got Leela dancing on a glowing stripper pole. eek
Just Fan
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« Reply #718 on: 07-09-2012 09:04 »

Yep, 7ACV05 will indicate how well the creators are thanking fans for their support... wink
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #719 on: 07-09-2012 09:39 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2012 09:46 »

Also, it's got Leela dancing on a glowing stripper pole. eek

So far, only an image of Takei's head eying sceptically some kind of "Zero-G stripper" (or whatover), of whom only the legs are seem, has been posted.
Did you see Leela in a TV add?
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