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Bakntime

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« on: 05-20-2002 08:56 »

Here's my thoughts on Futurama's whole situation right now:

Fox is sticking Futurama in it's same old sucky 7pm Sunday timeslot.  Why?  Fox knows the show would be successful elsewhere, where it could build a bigger fanbase, etc.  So, Fox places it in the same crappy slot for 2 resons:

1) They only have 16 episodes left, and if they placed it in a good, non-pre-emptable time slot they wouldn't have enough episodes to finish out the year.

2) They want Futurama to fail.  Since they have a vendetta against Groening for some reason, they want Futurama to fail, and this time slot is the best place for what would otherwise be a successful show to fail.  Pre-emptions, along with no lead-in result in the show being murdered.  Also, giving Futurama the bad slot will let them have an excuse when, at the end of the year, they don't "renew" Futurama, which they've basically not done already.

Fox also made the brilliant move of trying to breath life into a dying series King of the Hill by moving it to prime choice USDA time slot of 8:30, after Simpsons and before Malcolm.  Does anyone else think that 8:30 would be a good place for Futurama to succeed?  Yes, me thinks so.

What the hell is this Oliver Been crap at 7:30?  Is he the son of Mr. Been?  Come to think of it I wish it was a show about Mr. Been, or his son.

Well, I think it's safe to say that Futurama and Fox are finished with each other.

  cry
PCC Fred

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« Reply #1 on: 05-20-2002 09:18 »

It seems that way.  At the moment FOX seem to be going out of their way to eliminate all their sci-fi content.
static

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« Reply #2 on: 05-20-2002 16:32 »

We can only hope that Matt's comment "on to bigger and better networks" will ring true then.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #3 on: 05-20-2002 17:01 »

That's one of the few things which gives me the tiniest piece of hope.
McGrady

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« Reply #4 on: 05-21-2002 13:14 »

Well the "Bigger and better networks" are NBC CBS and ABC, and I don't see any of those networks picking up a cartoon show with mediocre ratings... well *everything* on fox anymore has mediocre ratings compared to the big 3.  The big 3 have had terrible experiences with prime time cartoon shows; only fox has been successful with them, or at least the simpsons.
Kryten

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« Reply #5 on: 05-21-2002 16:17 »

Thinking only in terms of broadcast networks? That is SO early 80s.
Apogee

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« Reply #6 on: 05-22-2002 20:15 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
That's one of the few things which gives me the tiniest piece of hope.

same here. don't u all think that matt groening will try to save futurama? would he let it die? I don't think so.


"You know Fry, of all the friends I've had, you're the first."
Chump

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« Reply #7 on: 05-22-2002 20:45 »

Hey maybe they can go to CBC! Produce in Canada! If they did, they would bypass all the laws on Canadian porgramming and the reruns would flow fast and plenty.

Then we could export them to America! Its the perfect plan! I know FilthyCrab would back me up...
McGrady

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« Reply #8 on: 05-22-2002 20:47 »

I was just saying that the only networks bigger than Fox are the big 3.  I don't think he would want Futurama to die, but if no network will pick it up, or it is too expensive to start again?
Apogee

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« Reply #9 on: 05-22-2002 21:17 »

shouldn't he got some money from more than a decade of The Simpsons??
futurefreak

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« Reply #10 on: 05-23-2002 00:00 »

welcome to PEEL, Apogee!  smile
Just Chris

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« Reply #11 on: 05-23-2002 00:02 »

This topic looks like the perfect chance to release my new sig  wink

Kryten

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« Reply #12 on: 05-23-2002 00:54 »

It's funny 'cause it's true.
BrainSluggo

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« Reply #13 on: 05-23-2002 02:34 »

Just Chris, where'd you get the sweet logo card? It looks a bit like the one Teral helped me find, but "corrected." You make?
David A

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« Reply #14 on: 05-23-2002 02:53 »

 
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Originally posted by Apogee:
shouldn't he got some money from more than a decade of The Simpsons??

Yes, he should have.  Unfortunately, FOX has profited more from The Simpsons than Matt Groening has.    frown
Ben

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« Reply #15 on: 05-23-2002 03:18 »

It's dead. We should enjoy the final 16 episodes and be happy. You're only setting yourself up for a big disapointment by expecting otherwise.
David A

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« Reply #16 on: 05-23-2002 03:22 »

I'm hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.
Kryten

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« Reply #17 on: 05-23-2002 10:42 »

/\ More optimistiv than me. I'm hoping for the worst, and expecting beyond the worst.
Archie2K

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« Reply #18 on: 05-23-2002 12:53 »

The worst is that it gets dropped by FOX. Beyond the worst is that after that no channels show it in England and I dont get to see the episodes I missed.  cry
McGrady

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« Reply #19 on: 05-23-2002 13:12 »

No, the worst is that Fox locks down on it, refuses to show the rest of the episodes, forces Bongo to stop making the comics, cancels the next dvd set, and gets PEEL and all prominant futurama webpages shut down.

The odds are against it getting new episodes on any network.  As Ben said, try to enjoy the rest of the episodes.  That way when it is over and Matt and David say, "Sorry we couldn't get any network to pick it up" it won't be as bad.
Kryten

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« Reply #20 on: 05-23-2002 13:54 »

Beyond the worst is that FOX sends surgeons around to every viewers' house to lobotomize them, making sure to cut out any part of the brain that might contain Futurama memories. As a bonus for FX, this procudree would also lower their IQs to the low double digits, producing the perfect FOX viewer.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #21 on: 05-23-2002 14:02 »

 
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Originally posted by Ben:
It's dead. You're only setting yourself up for a big disapointment by expecting otherwise.

I hope you're wrong.

Just Chris

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« Reply #22 on: 05-23-2002 14:06 »

 
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Originally posted by BrainSluggo:
Just Chris, where'd you get the sweet logo card? It looks a bit like the one Teral helped me find, but "corrected." You make?

Yeah, it was a framegrab from an episode I had. I used Paint Shop pro and busted out with the Clone brush to get the rays right. Very tricky, but it's a very cool 'blank' message grab.

Mr. Potter

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« Reply #23 on: 05-23-2002 17:57 »

I heard you talk about how bad FOX treats Futurama in the US but here in Latin America they are great with the show. They show Futurama every sunday at 8 p.m and repetitions thursdays at 8 P.M. They have a lot of ads promoting the show and this month they're repeating the 3 season all the days of the week.
Archie2K

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« Reply #24 on: 05-23-2002 17:59 »

In England its treated well too. Unfortunately if FOX doesnt show the new episodes then it wont get shown anywhere in the world. C*NTS!!!!!!!!
static

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« Reply #25 on: 05-23-2002 18:05 »

in sweden its 11:30 PM and i can live with that. They probably picked such a late time so they could get around the "adult content" question.
not to mention at this time its very unlikely to get replaced by sports an shit.

but still, as archie2k so graciously pointed out, as long as the first in line, FOX, screws up the show then the rest will suffer.
Javier Lopez

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« Reply #26 on: 05-23-2002 18:10 »

Just Crist.. i love that sig, if you don`t have problems i will translate it.. (i wan`t to be a copy-paste so i request permision first)
Binder

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« Reply #27 on: 05-23-2002 22:11 »

remember that Simpsons blackboard gag done recently saying something like "Matt will not lie again about ending The Simpsons". If only they did a Futurama one like your sig.
BrainSluggo

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« Reply #28 on: 05-24-2002 07:12 »

Mr. Potter, Archie2K: I hate you both. Meesa bombad jealous you Futurama airings!

JustChris: I guess what I meant to say was: can we lazy-arses get a copy of your sweet (blank) title card? (And by "we" I mean "me." Greedy, too.)  big grin
Archie2K

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« Reply #29 on: 05-24-2002 15:57 »

 
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Originally posted by BrainSluggo:
Mr. Potter, Archie2K: I hate you both. Meesa bombad jealous you Futurama airings!

What the hell are you talking about?
Future Angel
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« Reply #30 on: 05-24-2002 17:16 »

 
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Originally posted by Chump:
Hey maybe they can go to CBC! Produce in Canada! If they did, they would bypass all the laws on Canadian porgramming and the reruns would flow fast and plenty.

Then we could export them to America! Its the perfect plan! I know FilthyCrab would back me up...

No, They CAN NOT go to CBC. I'm proud of being Canadian, but I can't stand some of the stuff CBC produces.  hmpf Most of that stuff makes all you Americans out there look pretty stupid. So unless you all want the characters to become stupid idiots, I suggest no to CBC.
Chump

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« Reply #31 on: 05-24-2002 21:29 »

Point: FOX are stupid idiots but Futurama remains good. Therefore it is safe to assume that the network airing the show has little or no influence on the quality of the show. The thing is CBC actually makes a lot of the shows it airs. If they are made elsewhere, then they are fine. I just mean that CBC would air the old episodes and order new ones.
BrainSluggo

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« Reply #32 on: 05-24-2002 21:52 »

 
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
 What the hell are you talking about?

You: "In England, it's treated well too."
Mr. P: "In Latin America they are great with the show."
Me: "Here in the US, it is treated like re-used bumwad."

Hence: I am insanely jealous. I don't really hate you; that was just a joke. Sorry, I shouldn't have written it in retard-o-licious "JarJar Talk."

homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #33 on: 05-25-2002 18:52 »
« Last Edit on: 05-25-2002 18:52 »

Fox cares about money makeing shows and how to make people brain dead so people will not see how much are governments is run by companys. Go Coke, Kraft food corp, Ford and Wal-mart/Sam Club!
NilsWizard

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« Reply #34 on: 06-10-2002 18:04 »

Okay just about the only shows I watch in the evening are on FOX on Sunday night. They can't take Futurama off. It's about the only show worth watching. Besides the other Sunday night shows that is. Just my rant and rave for the day.
jasonlevine

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« Reply #35 on: 06-11-2002 10:29 »

I'm expecting the worst and hoping for the best (though it's a dim hope right now).  What I expect to happen is that Fox will show all of the episodes either next season or the season after that.  (Probably split it into 1 1/2 seasons with constant preemptions and showing them out of order.)  They might even can it with one or two eps unaired (which the may include as extras on the DVDs if/when they're released).

Then they'll continue to delay on the region 1 DVDs because they'd "lower syndication value" even if they don't plan on syndicating the show.  And even if they do release the Region 1 DVDs, I don't think they'll rush out the rest of the season DVDs.

Just remember, if you expect Fox to muck things up, you probably won't be disappointed.
BrainSluggo

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« Reply #36 on: 07-08-2002 09:16 »
« Last Edit on: 07-08-2002 09:16 »

Swiped from Comics2Film.com:

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"Patrick Warburton reveals a few details about his role in Men In Black II as well as discusses his opinions about the cancellation of The Tick in an interview conducted recently by CHUD.com.

"Warburton (explains) his frustrations over Fox's treatment of The Tick when it first debuted; "It was really harsh to see what the network did with this - that the network had planned, from the very beginning, to kill us off." Citing the fact Fox did not own the show as they did other new programs like The Bernie Mac Show and 24, Warburton said that The Tick suffered from a lack of promotion, "They weren't going to promo us because they didn't own us and we were expensive."

"Although Warburton acknowledges that the show's high costs - resulting from the overtime paid for shortened shooting schedule (five days per episode versus six to seven) - contributed to the show's demise, he nonetheless feels that The Tick did not receive a fair chance to survive, "I wish that we had been treated more fairly by the network and given a shot, but I understood the politics and all of that."

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...lest there be any doubt as to why Futurama was "dealt with" in the same fashion...

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