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UnrealLegend

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« on: 09-17-2011 02:40 »

I would say the Mutants Are Revolting. It had a good story, but there just weren't too many great jokes.

All I really liked was Bender being gyroscopically stable, Randall's fast "Okay!" at the end, and Fry's "Did you know I had a crush on Leela?"

Everything else just wasn't that funny (although the party was amusing, I'll admit.)

Anyway, what do you guys think?
Christopher

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« Reply #1 on: 09-17-2011 02:47 »

All of them
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #2 on: 09-17-2011 03:46 »

In my opinion, 'The Mutants are Revolting' is the funniest episode of 6A. In fact, whilst the storyline was great on paper, I don't think it was executed all that well given how truly epic it all could've been -but the humour made up for that for me.

Off the top of my mind, I loved everything you mentioned, the whole sequence with the bridge, Devo's whole "Play 'Whip It'!" "No! ...Play the other one" moment and the whole thing with the crew nearly delivering 10 packages a year.


As for over-rated... I'm going to say 'The Silence of the Clamps'.

There are a lot of people who agree with me that it was subpar, but I mean... I thought it was bordering on dire and yet a lot of people thought it was 'okay'. A 7/10 sort of episode. It has above 80% on CGEF which is just ridiculous if you ask me. It was easily the worst episode of 6B in my book.
spira

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« Reply #3 on: 09-17-2011 05:45 »

I LOVE Mutants are Revolting.

I'd say Mobius Dick. A lot of people really liked that one. I thought it was good, but no better than like 8/10, which for Futurama is pretty average. I don't know. It had really funny moments but there was a significant about of out-of-character and also some dumb goofs related to people not being sucked out of spacecraft.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #4 on: 09-17-2011 12:12 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2011 12:13 »

Fry Am the Egg Man I think, a lot of people liked it but I thought it was pretty 'meh'.

I'd say Mobius Dick.

What?! It's bordering on being my favourite ep... tongue
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #5 on: 09-17-2011 13:35 »

Yeah, I'd say Eggman is slightly overrated as well.
Another two that come to mind are ACO and TTOTZ. Both episodes are pretty damn good, but not quite as good as they're made out to be.
Gorky

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« Reply #6 on: 09-17-2011 14:11 »

"Ghost in the Machines" seemed to be really well-liked when it first premiered; I was--and still am--so thoroughly unimpressed by it. Bender's almost irredeemably awful throughout; the Fry-and-Bender-are-best-fuhraaaands thing has been done in the past, and much better at that; and it's just not that funny. It's one of my least favorite episodes of 6B, after the equally-overrated "The Silence of the Clamps."
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« Reply #7 on: 09-17-2011 14:23 »

I've always thought "The Prisoner of Benda" was overrated around...Well everywhere, I mean I do love the plot but some of it just didn't work for me
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« Reply #8 on: 09-17-2011 14:38 »

I agree that 'Mobius Dick', 'Fry Am the Egg Man', 'Ghost in the Machines' and 'The Prisoner of Benda' are all over-rated.

Not 'A Clockwork Origin' though. If anything, that episode is under-rated.
TheAnvil

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« Reply #9 on: 09-17-2011 14:52 »

The Late Phillip Jay Fry

It's a good episode but not even top 25 worthy IMO.
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #10 on: 09-17-2011 15:55 »

Fry Am the Egg Man. Good, not great.
futurefreak

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« Reply #11 on: 09-17-2011 16:12 »

I'd say Mobius Dick. A lot of people really liked that one. I thought it was good, but no better than like 8/10, which for Futurama is pretty average. I don't know. It had really funny moments but there was a significant about of out-of-character and also some dumb goofs related to people not being sucked out of spacecraft.
I agree. Pretty much everyone loved that episode, and I think I gave it a 7 or close to it. Leela was off base, the plot was uninspiring, and to me it just wasn't funny.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #12 on: 09-17-2011 17:21 »

It's a good episode but not even top 25 worthy IMO.

What?! no no
Ambitious misunderstood

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« Reply #13 on: 09-17-2011 20:58 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2011 21:05 »

Most of all, Prisoners of Benda. I hate voice switching (even Family Guy restrained from doing that for more than one short joke) and Futurama makes a whole episode about it... you grow used to certain voices and associate them with certain characters. When that changes, it feels unnatural - because it is, mind switching would by no means include voice switching, because the voice is dependant on the body you're in. Throughout the whole episode, I was very "aware" of watching a fake show. And people over here consider it better than "War is the H-word"... oh well, it's a free world.

Other than that, I'm not sure on how much the people over here like or dislike the episodes, so I can't see whether they are overrated. On CGEF, Tip of the Zoidberg is rated too highly. Because of the stupid medical scene alone and lame twists like "OMG it's yetiism!" it should be lower than 80%. However, the ending was really nice.

Didn't like Möbius Dick or Fry am the Eggman that much either, but judging from CGEF, they are rated about right.

Edit: Have to say however that Zoidberg was on his best in the Fry-Egg-episode. It just gets really lame once they reach space Scotland.
Gorky

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« Reply #14 on: 09-17-2011 21:02 »

Oh, yeah, I agree with you about "The Tip of the Zoidberg." I appreciate what it tries to do in terms of fleshing out Zoidberg and Farnsworth and providing an explanation for their camaraderie, but it's just really sloppily put-together and not all that funny. It's probably my least-favorite Keeler episode of the series (burn on all you Honking haters), and definitely one of 6B's weaker episodes.

And I can appreciate your criticisms of "The Prisoner of Benda," but that episode is just so damn hilarious and absurd to me. It's the only episode of 6A that felt totally reminiscent of the original run to me--in terms of the sci fi story and the humor and how it utilized the characters and played with their dynamic-- which is always a plus.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #15 on: 09-17-2011 21:20 »

Overclockwise is definitely the most overrated ep of Season 6 to me. The whole Fry/Leela relationship was far too forced and unnatural, jarringly so as if it was taken from a bad fan-fiction. Too much time spent in court, especially considering that Judge Whitey's voice was so far off it ruined the experience. Then there's the fact that they tried to force too much into such a small run-time, no room to breathe, again making it seem forced. The Bender plot was great, should've just left the whole ep to focus on that and forget everything else, that would've been a lot better if you ask me. Either that or a two-part episode. I don’t get how this can all get overlooked so passively. Anyway, where was I? Oh yeah, overrated...

The Tip Of The Zoidberg is the next most overrated ep, so many flaws and it was just a story that didn't need to be told. The medical scene is far too Scully-ish in humour too, just a terrible scene which has scarred my memory. The ep is ok; it has its moments between the sea of blandness washing over the plot flaws and wacky humour...

The next most overrated ep is Lethal Inspection, it seriously isn't that great. I don't find the back-story with Hermes and Bender all that touching. It didn't strike much of a chord with me. I feel almost alone in this. Anyway the whole Mexico thing bored me, it suffers from that taking the future out of Futurama thing again. As soon as an episode goes somewhere like that, visually uninteresting and not Futurama-y it lowers dramatically for me...

Also, all these people saying Möbius Dick is overrated, what the hell? It makes me sad. It's rated highly for a reason, if anything not enough though. At least on Peel the ratings are generally good overall. It's criminally underrated on CGEF. It's my second fave ep of Season 6 after TLPJF...
spira

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« Reply #16 on: 09-17-2011 21:34 »

I love Lethal Inspection. I think that story deserved to be told way more than the Tip of the Zoidberg one did, and it was nice seeing Hermes get a little backstory. Lots of people don't like Hermes much, but I think he's a good character in moderate doses.

I loved Fry and the Eggman so so much, but I understand why other people thought it was just okay. I don't feel like people overrate that one much though, very few people seem to think it is really awesome and we're not a super vocal minority.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #17 on: 09-17-2011 21:42 »

I like Hermes a lot, even in large doses. I thought How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back was brilliant for example. Lethal Inspection failed to engage me on an emotional level and therefore on a plot level too. I'm not saying it's bad, but not great either and therefore overrated to me...

I've read peoples thoughts on here and I popped it back in my DVD player not long ago to see if I was missing something, but it only confirmed that the only thing I seem to be missing is the ability to be touched by this ep hmpf...
Mongo

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« Reply #18 on: 09-17-2011 21:59 »

Honestly, I don't think that any episode of production season 6 was terribly over-rated or under-rated.  If I had to choose, I would go with All the Presidents's Heads.  Not highly regarded on PEEL, but even so it's still over-rated.  A mediocre episode in the first two acts, its third act was just brutal.  Elements of that hideous Brit-parody completely ruined the episode for me.

Having said that, in general the production season 6 episodes are all basically correct in their PEEL evaluations.  Unlike the original production season, which had a number of absolute stinkers (in my opinion) generally get glowing reviews.
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #19 on: 09-17-2011 22:08 »

All of them

I agree 80%
Ambitious misunderstood

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« Reply #20 on: 09-17-2011 22:24 »

Overclockwise is definitely the most overrated ep of Season 6 to me. The whole Fry/Leela relationship was far too forced and unnatural, jarringly so as if it was taken from a bad fan-fiction.
I agree that the Fry-Leela subplot wasn't too great. It was probably just included because it was the season's finale and they thought of a cute ending (too cute IMO). So they made a generic and uninspired twist (Leela having a sudden midlife crisis). Despite this, the episode was still really good. I loved the Bender story and I loved Cupert.

Also, all these people saying Möbius Dick is overrated, what the hell? It makes me sad. It's rated highly for a reason, if anything not enough though. At least on Peel the ratings are generally good overall. It's criminally underrated on CGEF. It's my second fave ep of Season 6 after TLPJF...
I could have liked that episode. But I though it wasn't too funny and Leela behaved unnaturally. The plot was interesting, but confusing and the pacing wasn't great.
spira

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« Reply #21 on: 09-17-2011 22:28 »

Hey, your name got fixed. Neat.

I agree with your thoughts on Mobius Dick. I was rather looking forward to it. It didn't disappoint much, but it could have been better and I wish they hadn't pushed Leela's character that far. She had some really funny, in-character moments, but some bits in the middle were just too much.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #22 on: 09-17-2011 22:32 »
« Last Edit on: 09-17-2011 23:13 »

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Overclockwise is definitely the most overrated ep of Season 6 to me. The whole Fry/Leela relationship was far too forced and unnatural, jarringly so as if it was taken from a bad fan-fiction.
The Leela/Fry thing in overclockwise lacked the usual sci fi plot.
In previous episodes, the love scenes alway did involve that sci fi twist.
E.g. TLPJF (trying to get in time to a date...ooooold. It grew interesting when time travel through the whole universe was involved).
TKOS (the endless chase, yet the timeskips did reveal suddenly that this chase could succeed...in fact, DID succeed.)
etc, etc, etc..

Leela should have left because of a sci fi based event, and returned because of another event (or the same with a different twist). That way, Overclockwise's handling of the Fry/Leela subplot would have fit in the show's tradition.
spira

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« Reply #23 on: 09-17-2011 22:49 »

Leela should have left because of a sci fi based event, and returned because of another event (or the same with a different twist). That way, Overclockwise's handling of the Fry/Leela subplot would have fit in the show's tradition.

A really valid point and I think that's exactly why I felt it had the vibe it did. It just seemed like a dumb plot manipulation device to have her just basically randomly leave - not in the style of the show's plotlines at all.
lilkitten29

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« Reply #24 on: 09-17-2011 23:32 »

I'd  say Neutopia. I didn't like that episode at all.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #25 on: 09-18-2011 00:45 »

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Overclockwise is definitely the most overrated ep of Season 6 to me. The whole Fry/Leela relationship was far too forced and unnatural, jarringly so as if it was taken from a bad fan-fiction.
The Leela/Fry thing in overclockwise lacked the usual sci fi plot.
In previous episodes, the love scenes alway did involve that sci fi twist.
E.g. TLPJF (trying to get in time to a date...ooooold. It grew interesting when time travel through the whole universe was involved).
TKOS (the endless chase, yet the timeskips did reveal suddenly that this chase could succeed...in fact, DID succeed.)
etc, etc, etc..

Leela should have left because of a sci fi based event, and returned because of another event (or the same with a different twist). That way, Overclockwise's handling of the Fry/Leela subplot would have fit in the show's tradition.

I hadn't thought of this, but you know you're probably right. Had the Sci-Fi plot played more of an integral role in progressing the relationship elements then it may have seemed less forced and more natural. Leela's lines in particular were dreadful in places. Well, I hope they stick to Sci-Fi plot progression in future then. A good thing about your comics is they're generally quite Sci-fi orientated smile...
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #26 on: 09-18-2011 01:32 »
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Leela's lines in particular were dreadful in places.

Script idea: Leela feels uneasy about them beingi so  on-again/off-again.
Finished Script: Leela "I feel uneasy about us being so on-again, off-again".
I can really hear Katey Sagal saying "Sorry, but you gave me the script outline, and not the finished version to read"
"This IS the finished version".
"....you are putting me on, right?" big grin
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #27 on: 09-18-2011 03:02 »

I'd  say Neutopia. I didn't like that episode at all.
I didn't think anyone liked that episode...
Anyway, yeah. I'd say Neutopia is the third worst of the season.
spira

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« Reply #28 on: 09-18-2011 03:27 »

Neutopia isn't overrated, it's just bad. It's rated quite poorly here and on CGEF.

Hein, that particular line I actually thought was kind of funny, because it was an acknowledgement of a fact that had never been acknowledged before. But, like, when she said straight up "Can we talk about our relationship?" I cringed.
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« Reply #29 on: 09-18-2011 06:49 »

It had a 'Were No Fan Had Gone Before' feel to it.  Except lacking the Star Trek references to it.

Man, I just can't get Western references.
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« Reply #30 on: 09-18-2011 07:29 »

It had a 'Were No Fan Had Gone Before' feel to it.  Except lacking the Star Trek references to it.


Yes, both eps having a near-omnipotent entity that set goals/tasks for them.  I don't think it was overrated but I do think that it would have been much better if the gender hostility had been toned down a notch or two.

* also if Leela's calendar outfit had been slightly less revealing and her girls drawn more realistically.

spira

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« Reply #31 on: 09-18-2011 07:45 »

I think it would have been funnier if they skipped the whole "neutral" thing and spent more time with swapped genders. Having everyone the opposite gender is a total gold mine. Instead, they used it to take raunchy pictures, and then pulled a deus ex machina at the end. It was just dumb.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #32 on: 09-18-2011 10:29 »
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I think it would have been funnier if they skipped the whole "neutral" thing and spent more time with swapped genders. Having everyone the opposite gender is a total gold mine.  dumb.

ImhO, they could have dropped the gender-switch, and just stuck to the neutral stuff.
Gender swapping has been done in other movies, it's not really something new.
Also, the tension between the genders will remain, but just be reversed.


With the neutral aspect, suddenly everyone was buddy-buddy. Everyone got along nicely..in other words:  everything was booooooring. I did like the acknoledgement/conclusion that mankind is not meant to be that way. It's a rather agressive species that just needs a certain tension...
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« Reply #33 on: 09-18-2011 10:56 »

I didn't think anyone liked that episode...

I did... Felt like original run Futurama to me... Just the ending that was a little weak.
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« Reply #34 on: 09-18-2011 11:40 »


...Just the ending that was a little weak.

Agreed.  Perhaps the Prof figuring out a way to revert to the original genders, but something doesn't go quite right.

DannyJC13

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« Reply #35 on: 09-18-2011 11:42 »

Yeah, like they all keep constantly swapping genders every few minutes, even combinations of breasts and penises... wtf?
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #36 on: 09-18-2011 12:09 »

I think the episode could have been a lot better if it was handled similarly to "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles"; the crew accidentally having their Gender's swapped much earlier in the episode,  and the Prof trying to find a way to reverse it.
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« Reply #37 on: 09-18-2011 14:29 »

I think the episode could have been a lot better if it was handled similarly to "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles"; the crew accidentally having their Gender's swapped much earlier in the episode,  and the Prof trying to find a way to reverse it.

Yes but he found a cure pretty early in the episode, it was just an accident that they started to turn even younger. They'd have to do something to advance the gender thing to.
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« Reply #38 on: 09-18-2011 14:56 »

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Overclockwise is definitely the most overrated ep of Season 6 to me. The whole Fry/Leela relationship was far too forced and unnatural, jarringly so as if it was taken from a bad fan-fiction.
The Leela/Fry thing in overclockwise lacked the usual sci fi plot.
In previous episodes, the love scenes alway did involve that sci fi twist.
E.g. TLPJF (trying to get in time to a date...ooooold. It grew interesting when time travel through the whole universe was involved).
TKOS (the endless chase, yet the timeskips did reveal suddenly that this chase could succeed...in fact, DID succeed.)
etc, etc, etc..

Leela should have left because of a sci fi based event, and returned because of another event (or the same with a different twist). That way, Overclockwise's handling of the Fry/Leela subplot would have fit in the show's tradition.

Having your relationship mapped out very accurately by a super-computer that can see the future counts as sci-fi in my book.
Gorky

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« Reply #39 on: 09-18-2011 16:16 »

I may be alone here, but part of what I loved about the Fry/Leela thing in "Overclockwise" was that it wasn't tied up in the sci fi craziness (with the exception of what cyber_turnip mentions: Bender's massive brain figuring out Fry and Leela's future). In some other shippy episodes, it seems like Fry and Leela's relationship is only really worth exploring when it's tied up in some now-or-never/the-universe-is-ending/time-travel's-fucking-things-up plot. I'm borrowing this sentiment from, I believe, FistfulOfAwesome, but why can't Fry and Leela's romance occasionally cross over into more conventional territory? It's not like these people are only destined to be together when something crazy is going on throughout the universe; they need to be able to live with each other day by day.

I did think Leela's (mention of a) midlife crisis was abrupt, but I respected the writers for trying to portray the two characters and their relationship in a fairly realistic way. I get that that makes it less Futurama-y for some people, and maybe it seemed a little forced, but I don't know...I liked it.
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