Thoughts on 6ACV26 - Reincarnation - SPOILERS!

[Reply #240 on:]

The fuck?! That wasn't there earlier?!

[Reply #241 on:]

claymation would be great

I second this paraphrasing.

[Reply #242 on:]

claymation would be great

I second this paraphrasing.

Thirded.

[Reply #243 on:]

They could do some really great stuff with claymation. It would be a pity for that to last only seven minutes.

[Reply #244 on:]

I absolutely loved this episode the old timey beginning was excellent the old school video game middle was awesome too Stephen Hawkings cameo was great "I like physics but I love cartoons" and the anime ending was also great although probably my least favorite of the three. Still overall it might be my new favorite episode

[Reply #245 on:]

So here is my late review. I like the three stories but I thought the black and white version was really cute. Leela and Fry are just too cute together I didn't like the 8 bit version much because I thought it was slow. The Amine version was great. HAHAHA! Loved Sailor Moon Amy and I loved the dance from Bender, Fry and Zoidbreg.

[Reply #246 on:]

Well you can't expect everyone to read through all 6 pages... Especially with the length of some posts.

I would never expect anyone to read through every detail of every post (at least the longer ones), but I would expect posters to get the gist of every post even in the longest threads (~20 pages). I might be the crazy one though, I don't know, but I would never post in a thread without reading the entire discussion first.

(the "I might be the crazy one" is not sarcasm, it's honest - I don't know the general opinion)

[Reply #247 on:]

Everyone is trying their hardest to be the crazy one on PEEL.  Welcome to the competition.  It is tough.

[Reply #248 on:]

Have these been posted before?

I'm dissaponted with such season finale. That wasn't typical futurama humor but parody of some old cartoons popular in USA. Last part was the worst. They changed characters so much that they wasn't even familiar to original.

random gave 1 point

I love Futurama but I don't agree with the majority of the "5" ratings. I classify gimmick episodes like this in the same category as clip shows. It had some good laughs, but overall I was disappointed. Expected much more for the finale.

Jamison gave 3 points

This is like a CLIP SHOW? Wow. That hurts. A clip show has 90% previously used footage. This was wall to wall new animation, 100% lovingly animated just for you.

I don't know if it's fair or not, but I'm giving my own episode 5 stars because I like it.

Peter Avanzino gave 5 points

I found the reference to a clip show, just ridiculous. I think most people on here found the episode to be pretty creative and filled with stunning animation. I've got the same opinion as Peter on this.

[Reply #249 on:]

They don't know what a clip show is.  They forgot Simpsons' famous clip show episodes.

[Reply #250 on:]

Or Seinfeld's clip shows...a clip show has no story. It is a compilation of old footage based on a theme, and it usually breaks the 4th wall. This was more akin to the What If scenarios...What if the characters were stuck in an anime cartoon? It reminded me very much of South Park's different character morphings for like WoW, anime, etc.

I found it quite humorous, pleasing to watch, and just overall well done. It's nice for the characters to be something else every once in a while.

BTW I realize this episode opened with breaking the 4th wall, but it was done I believe so that the canon people wouldn't flip the eff out.

[Reply #251 on:]

A clip show? Wow, people these days are really retarded...

[Reply #252 on:]

I definitely disagree that the characters "wasn't even familiar to original" (hurrah for grammar!). They were adapted to fit their animation style, but aside from the bit where Fry rejected Leela in favor of physics, which was really funny, everyone was in character relative to everyone else. Not only did this play with visuals and animation in a fun way, it played with characterization as well. An excellent romp.

[Reply #253 on:]

Fry rejected Leela in favor of physics

I think it was more a Fry being to thick to get what Leela was implying moment.

[Reply #254 on:]

I think it was more a Fry being to thick to get what Leela was implying moment.

Yes, he's pretty thick at times but my interpretation was that this was simply a case of him only listening to Leela with half an ear because of his hyperfocus on the prof due to his (Fry's) immediate goal.  If he wasn't distracted by the Professor I suspect that he would have picked up on Leela's hint right away.

[Reply #255 on:]

Either way, it's funny. But yeah, you two are probably right.

[Reply #256 on:]

Fry rejected Leela in favor of physics

I think it was more a Fry being to thick to get what Leela was implying moment.

He says "No means no" meaning he knew what she meant.

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[Reply #258 on:]

He says "No means no" meaning he knew what she meant.

Yeah, you're right -- I must have missed that.

[Reply #259 on:]

I'm about as critical of season 6 as they make 'em, but that episode was fantastic, 10/10. It was goofy, hilarous and enjoyable, what more could you want from a Futurama episode. Kind of funny that there is no consensus whatsoever on which animation was the best.

To me the retro game one was the best. Granted, the story in that one didn't make good use of that particular animation stylen(then again, they did that before, so they didn't really have much of a choice). I really don't know why I loved that one so much, I think I was just striken with nostalgia. I've never played those old timey video games, but the original gameboys were just the same... my favourite scene was probably the sadness meter and Super Mario handing out beers with Roberto in the background.

The first one had the best plot and felt really authentic. At the same time, it seemed a little too cute for me, but it was great nonetheless. Not really much more I could say about that.

The third one was awesome, but the anime cartoons it made fun of aren't the ones I grew up with. I got the Sailor Moon reference, but that's it. I suppose this anime was about the first generation of Japanese anime when I grew up with the second or even third one (Dragon Ball, Pokemon, Kickers... that kind of thing).
The only thing that I thought was a bit lame was the banana-design of the alien spaceships. That seemed just random and childish.

[Reply #260 on:]

my favourite scene was probably the sadness meter and Super Mario handing out beers with Roberto in the background.

Wow, somehow I must have missed that, but that's awesome. I'll have to check that out!...

[Reply #261 on:]

Hooray! I'm useful!

[Reply #262 on:]

For the Random Order test!

I still really love 'Reincarnation'. It's easily one of the best of the season. Its concept was great, and it played out really, really well. It's fun to watch for all the little jokes and pop culture references scattered across the three segments, and overall a fun episode with high rewatch value.

So, yeah, I'll bump it up from my original score a bit to 9.5/10. Maybe even a 10.

[Reply #263 on:]

If next few episodes of next season is as bad as this last one I'm going to stop watching it.

ugghhhh.....the humor just went ova ur head

[Reply #264 on:]

hjs has very high standards, and they're quite unpredictable to say the least, although having said that even I was little surprised by that statement. I still think this is a fantastic episode and it's kept me hungry for the new season, unlike last years conclusion to 6A which did nothing of the sort...

[Reply #265 on:]

Well, this was real quality. I was hysterical!

[Reply #266 on:]

I was just re-watching this episode, and I have to say, this has to be one of the most entertaining, re-viewable episodes in the series. Every time I see it, I notice another tiny little detail that I hadn't seen before. For example, the flying space cars in the anime segment are destroyed, and a couple of shots later, the same ones are destroyed again. 

Reincarnation is quickly creeping into my favourite episodes list. It's hilarious from start to finish, and is easily the most creative episode to date. This is how non-canon episodes show be done. (Although I do love the what-if-machine.)

[Reply #267 on:]

For the Random Order test!

I still really love 'Reincarnation'.

Just rewatching it now... the middle segment is definitely the weakest - and it's still absolutely brilliant. A question does occur to me though - if nothing ever dies, it's just reborn in a different form, does this mean that Futurama is reborn thrice for this episode in different styles, or that the three different styles were reborn within Futurama?

[Reply #268 on:]

Maybe it has been re-reborn for Season 7...

[Reply #269 on:]

*bump*

Remember when all those morons in the comments on the Futurama Stream site thought the episode was a clip show? Well I've seen some places on the internet, pre-2011, where people have said that Reincarnation was just going to be Rebirth but in three different styles. Maybe that's why they were confused? Even if it was, still worth watching.

[Reply #270 on:]

Just rewatching it now... the middle segment is definitely the weakest - and it's still absolutely brilliant.

It's incredible how the worst part, was still downright incredible. It really shows you how good the anime and fleshier style animation segments really are. I would even consider this AoI3.

[Reply #271 on:]

fleshier style animation

I think you mean Fleischer. I think "fleshier style animation" and I think of a Futuramaverse where everybody has gained a hundred pounds and is all jiggly when they move.

[Reply #272 on:]

That would make a great episode. I hope the writers see that, because I honestly think it would be amusing. (Obviously in a non-canon episode).

[Reply #273 on:]

It already exists, just go over to America...

[Reply #274 on:]

Just got done watching this episode on Comedy Central.  I don't know how anyone can rate this episode anything lower than 10.  Every segment is just hilarious -- from the 1920s cartoon spoof, to the 1980s NES 8-bit video game, to the GENIUS anime segment.  I mean the anime satire was just spot on... between the jokes, the storyline, the horrific English translation -- all of it was just top-notch.  I had no choice but to give this episode a 10 out of 10.  This is probably my #2 favorite episode of the season behind TLFJF.

[Reply #275 on:]

I mean the anime satire was just spot on... between the jokes, the storyline, the horrific English translation -- all of it was just top-notch.

Random factoid (from the audio commentary): The anime segment was originally Act II of the episode, but it got such a strong reaction in its initial screening that they were compelled to move it to Act III so the episode could end with a bang.

[Reply #276 on:]

I mean the anime satire was just spot on... between the jokes, the storyline, the horrific English translation -- all of it was just top-notch.

Random factoid (from the audio commentary): The anime segment was originally Act II of the episode, but it got such a strong reaction in its initial screening that they were compelled to move it to Act III so the episode could end with a bang.

Yep, and the video game segment was to initially end with "series complete" rather than "level complete" if it turned out that they weren't getting another season.

[Reply #277 on:]

... and it originally said "End of Series" at the end of the 8-bit segment.

[Reply #278 on:]

I feel like I'm the only one who liked the fleischer style one the best.  

Don't get me wrong, the other two were really good, and always had a little something for us to find in there. But the Fleischer style was by far the most entertaining one for me.

[Reply #279 on:]

Actually, I adored the Fleischer style best, but didn't care for the other two so much.  I thought the first was the best, in that it was the one that felt the closest to its source material, but successfully managed to combine it with a goofy sci-fi Futurama story.  It also had the best art style out of the three segments too.  It was silly and cute.  It had so much sassafras.

The second segment was far and away my most disliked.  It didn't really feel like a story in a videogame, but a rejected plotline for a Tales of Interest.  After the first few minutes, they kind of forgot that it was set in a videogame, and just told a normalish futurama episode that so happened to take place in videogame graphics.  It felt a bit lazy.  And this part is just nitpicking but what the hell.  I was also hoping to see Amy  dressed as a classic videogame character such as Princess Peach/Zelda or maybe a really obscure one such as Alis Landale, since she was an iconic character in the other two segments (Betty Boop and Sailor Moon).  That's just me being petty though.  

The anime one I liked, but it didn't feel like a parody of anime... more like a parody written by and for people who have never really watched any anime in their life, aside from seeing adverts for Dragonball Z and Sailor Moon.  It didn't help that the art style was rather hideous, bringing back nightmares found lurking in the deepest, darkest depths of Deviantart.

That being said, I adored the first segment, and enjoyed the other two.  If the last two segments were as good as the first one, this would have been the best episode ever, for me at least.