|
|
|
futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
For the shippers out there, in the commentary at the very end of the episode, when Leela and Fry are reading Bender's paper on what happens to them:
Patric Verrone: Now that we're several episodes into the next season in writing I know why she slaps him.
So apparently when they did this episode they didn't know if they were coming back for another season (again) so it was intended to be the last episode, with Reincarnation as the last "bonus" episode as they put it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
Or did I...
@_@
They did originally have the second act be the third act in Reincarnation and instead of it saying "Level Complete" to read "Series Complete"
|
|
|
|
|
DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
|
|
instead of it saying "Level Complete" to read "Series Complete"
That would of been awesome. And, oh, I guess Fry does something bad to Leela... But what would it matter... Unless... Unless... THEY'RE ACTUALLY TOGETHER NOW?!
|
|
|
|
|
futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
He can be a jerk to her regardless if they are together or not. Also Fry's stupid so yeah...
|
|
|
|
|
|
DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
|
|
He can be a jerk to her regardless if they are together or not. Also Fry's stupid so yeah...
But why should she care if they aren't together? You could say "Oh because they know their future..." If they know their future, and it's obviously good, why the fuck are they still seperate?! I'm not a shipper, but damn just seal the deal already...
|
|
|
|
|
|
DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
|
|
Well if they're addressing Fry's slap, maybe they'll address Leela's?
|
|
|
|
|
|
DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
|
|
I have a feeling they won't be together next Series, no matter what happens to them in the Series finale, they never stay together.
And if they do finally get together in the last episode ever, in the back of my mind, in their universe I know they won't...
|
|
|
|
|
futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
I was on that boat a few seasons ago Danny. Ever since The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings when Leela was clearly moved, then they come back and Leela is all hunky dory (did I seriously just type that?) over Lars, which isn't so much of a shock as TBWABB when Fry starts dating Coleen...I'm no shipper either (I used to be around the time of Parasites Lost) but it makes me mad too. Either clearly state they are together, or forget the whole ship. Now everyone don't come at me with your flames and pitchforks... * futurefreak hides
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
She did have an awesome space closer jacket.
|
|
|
|
|
Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
|
|
I agree with SpaceGoldfish fromWazn, Leela was really in total biatch mode in this ep. To think this could have been the last canon ep in the series is simply mind boggling! Since Leela found out who her parents are she seems to be putting all of her spare energy into being the most unlikable and unpleasant selfish piece of trash she can be...
All of the caring endearing qualities of her character are disappearing, including her apparent care for Nibbler, who like Fry, she can just leave without a moments thought...
|
|
|
|
|
Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
|
|
|
« Reply #340 on: 12-24-2011 14:14 »
« Last Edit on: 12-24-2011 18:43 »
|
|
That's really more Deep and Exciting and Meaningful then being an intergalactic space captain? Seriously?
Her job is imhO the only thing I would consider credibe for Leela to leave. - What does the titel "Intergalactic Space Ship Captain" mean? In the series, it was rather the person appointed by Farnsworth as the ships pilot, and he could and did chose anyone at random when the necessity arose. Means: Not really an impressive, well paid job. Her job could be rather compared to a trucker today than to a ship's captain. (I liked the double meaning in "Leela's Homeworld" when her picture was put up: I COULD mean she was the only one who made something of her live, but it also COULD mean that her space trucker job is not really such a greater achievement than those of everyone else, and her picture fits into that row very well). - About the meaningful aspects: What looks like adventures to us, is rather a "getting too damned close" for the characters. Getting killed while trying to deliver a parcel. The fatal danger is imhO something she would easily give up. The "entertaining, adventurous" aspect is rather for the audience, but hardly a profit for the characters. ImhO, the character that would endure the longest as ship's captain before looking for something else would be Fry. Not based on qualifications, but rather on the wrongest expectations ("Sci Fi adentures..woohoo...cool"), and being the slowest thinker to find out this asspumption is wrong ("Now wait a second...what else is there expect being nearly killed on nearly every delivery?"), and this job hardly offers anything expect the possibility of an early death.
|
|
|
|
|
|
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
Urban Legend
|
|
It's not a title, it's just a description of what she does. She's the pilot of an intergalactic ship. I mean... she's on a ship, where several times a week, she will fly across the universe seeing many different planets and meet with loads of alien races. She gets to see asteroids and nebulas, black holes and quasars, and pretty much everything the universe has to offer. I know I'd take that low paying job over a real estate agent anyway. .
Remember? When she met the orphans who bullied her, (and they were all losers), she was itching to rub her status as a space pilot/spaceship captain into their faces and said it like it was something to be proud of. Because it was.
And let's not forget, that coat was ugly
But even so, if she felt it was time to move on, that's her right to. If she doesn't want to risk life and limb every week, again that's her right to. But the way she treated Fry that episode just made her seem capricious, selfish and unreasonable. Fry never even tried to make her choose between making a new life for herself and him, or said: "If you leave, I'm not going." He was fine to go away with her and figure out the future together, but nooo.. as usual with Leela it was all Me, Me, Me and What I Want Now Now Now. Did she even try to work something out with Fry? What's to stop her having another early midlife crisis? I mean she changes her mind as often as she doesn't change her tank top, and she is impossible to please most of the time.
|
|
|
|
|
|
futurefreak
salutatory committee member
Moderator
DOOP Secretary
|
|
I agree with SpaceGoldfish fromWazn, Leela was really in total biatch mode in this ep. To think this could have been the last canon ep in the series is simply mind boggling! Since Leela found out who her parents are she seems to be putting all of her spare energy into being the most unlikable and unpleasant selfish piece of trash she can be...
All of the caring endearing qualities of her character are disappearing, including her apparent care for Nibbler, who like Fry, she can just leave without a moments thought...
Be thankful leiapadme77 isn't here to read this...hahah
|
|
|
|
|
Gorky
DOOP Secretary
|
|
I like that she's rash sometimes. It keeps her interesting.
Yes, rashes are interesting. Wait, did I misread that?Anyway: I really enjoy Leela in "Overclockwise." I think I've pontificated elsewhere in this thread on the subject of her purported bitchiness, so I'll just say that I don't think there's anything wrong with her expecting Fry to commit to her (even if she had been having trouble committing to him throughout season six), and I don't blame her for wanting to find another job. She makes it clear that she feels unsatisfied professionally and personally--that, even though she loves Fry, she doubts his ability satisfy her various needs--and her concerns are valid. Maybe it's a little selfish to abruptly leave the guy you love and the coworkers who have become your family, but I don't hold that against Leela. She was just doing what she thought was best for her. And, by the end of the episode, she realizes that she belonged at Planet Express all along--so, you know, no harm done.
|
|
|
|
|
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
Urban Legend
|
|
|
« Reply #346 on: 12-25-2011 04:22 »
« Last Edit on: 12-25-2011 04:30 »
|
|
At least until her next early mid life crisis, and then she'll come back expecting to pick up exactly where she left off... whether it's with Fry or her old job (someone else pointed out every time she quits, she expects her captainship back just like that.) For someone who has experienced a lot of loneliness, alienation and neglect in her childhood, she often takes the people who are good to her for granted. Especially Fry.
But actually a great idea for an episode would be, Leela quits on a whim, then comes back expecting her old job back, and is told no. Someone has replaced her (either Hermes or Amy), and she has to work her way back to her old career from the bottom (Leela's now a delivery girl or something). Also she has to prove to Fry that she deserves him for once, (I mean with someone as fickle as Leela, it's almost impossible to know where you stand sometimes, and if you know they can actually take care of your heart.) I just think that all of the characters, Leela's probably the one least likely to face consequences for her own actions.
I just found Leela in this episode to be extremely selfish and flighty. Even though she was thinking something perfectly reasonable, the way she behaved was pretty unreasonable. I know if someone I was dating was as fickle as Leela, I would have given up on him at this point if I hadn't already.
As for Leela being a trucker... yes and no. Futurama constantly flip flops on whether everybody drives in space or not, or whether spaceships are the equivilant of modern cars or airplanes or ocean going ships. I mean one episode can have the universe being crossed in a manner similar to a ocean liner or a passenger jet, while the next might show Amy's car doing the job just as nicely. I'm not really sure whether it's possible to consider Leela a glorified long haul trucker or a pilot/captain. A pilot is automatically more glamorous then a trucker, even if they are traveling the same distance and are carrying the same cargo, don't you think?
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
|
|
I've just watched the entire series on DVD
As in 6B, 6 overall or 1 to 6?
|
|
|
|
|
Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
|
|
I have a feeling he meant 6B, too many better eps if he meant anymore...
|
|
|
|
|
|
DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
|
|
You thought 6A was better than 6B even before the last 3 eps? I mean 6A is like, WOO, but 6B is like YYYEEEEEAAAAAH!
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|