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Boxy Robot

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« Reply #160 on: 08-27-2011 17:48 »

I was watching "The Luck of the Fryrish" when I noticed this...



Strange don't you think (Well kinda strange...)
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« Reply #161 on: 08-27-2011 17:51 »

That's funny. There probably isn't a direct relation though...I mean, the titles have similar puns but I doubt they intended them to be the same.

I just rewatched this episode, and I like it even more than the first time. It's officially my favorite one of this season.
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« Reply #162 on: 08-27-2011 17:51 »

The term comes from the Cold War, so it makes sense.  This is also where the name for the episode comes from.
Boxy Robot

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« Reply #163 on: 08-27-2011 17:56 »

I know but it's sort of strange how both feature Fry's parents and have scenes from the past, and both have the same pun in each episode...
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« Reply #164 on: 08-27-2011 18:18 »

As many have said, this was a really good episode. It was hilarious and emotional, and it's one of few season 6 episodes with a really good story that never stops. I liked all twists, the story was big enough for a movie but still well paced, and the ending was nostalgic and emotional. When the music kicked in and I knew for sure there was going to be an emotional ending, I didn't see how it could be done well, but it could. I have only seen the episode once yet, but it's probably my favorite from 6B.
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« Reply #165 on: 08-27-2011 18:44 »

I know but it's sort of strange how both feature Fry's parents and have scenes from the past, and both have the same pun in each episode...

How was it a pun in the first episode?

"Cold Warrior" is in fact what people of Yancy Sr.'s mindset were called at the time.  The title of the magazine was quite appropriate, and not punny at all.  It simply served to establish his personality.
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« Reply #166 on: 08-27-2011 19:34 »

It's quite a coincidence though, and kudos to Boxy Robot for spotting it!...
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« Reply #167 on: 08-27-2011 19:49 »

Nice coincidence-spot there! I don't think they're the same for a reason but it is still amusing or something like that.
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« Reply #168 on: 08-28-2011 00:34 »

I posted this in the news thread, but I think it's bizzare enough to go here as well:

http://au.tv.ign.com/articles/119/1190891p1.html

IGN are stoopid.

Nah I'd pretty much agree with that, it was consistently funny but nothing really hilarious. Nowhere near as good as JB or LotF. 8/10

says the mighty boosh fan born in 1991.
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« Reply #169 on: 08-28-2011 02:25 »

Oh my God, so many trolls on CGEF  no no

Do people understand what an average is? Who says it needs to match your own opinion!
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« Reply #170 on: 08-28-2011 07:11 »

it has gotten out of control.
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« Reply #171 on: 08-28-2011 07:55 »

Hmm. Not as bad as I expected it to be. Had some good Professor moments, and I liked the incorporation of Fry's family into the storyline again. The ending was very bittersweet. Fry's dad sayin, "I don't want you to get frozen" was best. ironic. line. ever.!

That young kid, Josh, was he meant to be a younger Cohen? I just seemed to get thaat vibe throughout the episode, even though I have no idea what he was like as a kid but i imagine based off his appearance in A Bicyclops Built for Two, something close to that hahah. A real nerdlinger.

The only thing I didn't like was Leela's facebook line. Really? You think that will be around in 1000 years? Remember when we had myspace, what happened to that? roll eyes

So, overall, not bad at all.
9/10
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« Reply #172 on: 08-28-2011 08:48 »

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That young kid, Josh, was he meant to be a younger Cohen?
When I saw that guy, I immediatelly had to think of Arty Ziff....
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« Reply #173 on: 08-28-2011 08:56 »

Oh yeah, I forgot about him. I bet there's a little Cohen in him too.
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« Reply #174 on: 08-28-2011 11:12 »
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The only thing I didn't like was Leela's facebook line. Really? You think that will be around in 1000 years? Remember when we had myspace, what happened to that? roll eyes

MySpace was never as possible as Facebook is.  Were your parents on MySpace?  Need I say more.

But then you must also hate the fact that eBay was in "I Dated a Robot" and "A Leela of Her Own", right?  Or Discover cards still being in circulation in "A Fishful of Dollars".
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« Reply #175 on: 08-28-2011 11:22 »

That was the joke. The fact that everything else didn't exist but Discover, which barely anyone uses in this country, still does, they just don't accept it.

I can see eBay or an equivalent still existing, there really is no comparable replacement for that as of yet. Facebook seems like a fad to me - it's good and all, I use it a lot of course - but some other social site is going to replace it soon enough.

The only reason your parents weren't on Myspace is because those damn flashy graphics everyone uses to fill up their effing page probably gave them seizures.
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« Reply #176 on: 08-28-2011 11:23 »

Ah, I've just remembered something:

Biggest Disappointment from this Episode:

When Fry asks Bender to drill through the ice there is no "ice drilling is just a degenerate form of bending" gag.   frown

Don't hate me, Trinity.  I'm just the messenger.
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« Reply #177 on: 08-28-2011 11:25 »

Favorite line of the episode:

Professor: Oh I try to act cool, but inside I'M FREAKING OUT!
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« Reply #178 on: 08-28-2011 11:32 »

I can see eBay or an equivalent still existing, there really is no comparable replacement for that as of yet. Facebook seems like a fad to me - it's good and all, I use it a lot of course - but some other social site is going to replace it soon enough.

The only reason your parents weren't on Myspace is because those damn flashy graphics everyone uses to fill up their effing page probably gave them seizures.

Nah, Facebook is a gated community compared to MySpace, which is why it appeals more to elder folks.

I agree that Facebook is probably not going to last as long as eBay.  But who knows, it might be revived?  I mean, Facebook is quite a generic word unlike say... MySpace or Google+.
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« Reply #179 on: 08-28-2011 13:21 »

Favorite line of the episode:

Professor: Oh I try to act cool, but inside I'M FREAKING OUT!

Gotta agree, loved that line, classic Farnsworth laff...

As for the Facebook thing, I wasn't too keen either. If it was still around in 50 years it would be a miracle, but a thousand? C'mon!...
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« Reply #180 on: 08-28-2011 15:20 »

Yeah, the Facebook thing was a bit ridiculous, but I thought it was one of their best pop-culture references. Which is a bit like saying it was one of their least painful root canals.
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« Reply #181 on: 08-28-2011 15:45 »

It was more than just a pop-culture reference for once; the joke is that we are supposed to think Leela is looking it up, but she is actually just doing non-work tasks (such as Facebook), because she knew the information off hand.
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« Reply #182 on: 08-28-2011 17:48 »

This is true. Plus, the whole delivery of that line was hilarious.
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« Reply #183 on: 08-28-2011 17:53 »

The facebook gag was the worst line in the episode, and totally un needed, I have to try and ignore those things.
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« Reply #184 on: 08-28-2011 17:54 »

For once, the pop culture didn't bother me.
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« Reply #185 on: 08-28-2011 17:57 »
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facebook is so engrained in our society at this point that future people might still be using the phrase 'facebooking' to refer to the act of online social networking, even if facebook itself is long gone.  I mean, the last time you 'rode shotgun', I'll bet you weren't riding on top of a stage coach, holding off bandits with an actual shotgun.
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« Reply #186 on: 08-28-2011 18:00 »

A valid comparison. Actually, a lot of internet/computer related terms have meanings that are slowly becoming lost. A friend and I were talking the other day about how the terms "folder" and "file" will pretty soon have no meaning outside of the digital realm - who besides maybe doctors or schools or other large institutions keeps physical files anymore? And even those are becoming obsolete.
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« Reply #187 on: 08-28-2011 18:01 »

So some guy put this in the comments on the Futurama Stream site, under 'Cold Warriors':

this is one of the worst futuramas. Pop culture referances? this isn't the futurama i love - its family guy in space.

Some people need to learn how to spell.
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« Reply #188 on: 08-28-2011 18:06 »

They also need to learn how to actually compare an episode to previous episodes. The Why of Fry, for example, is loaded with pop culture references. Such a thing alone does not a Worst Episode make.
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« Reply #189 on: 08-28-2011 18:07 »

The Why of Fry is my fave ep, I do not remember such Pop Culture references... hmpf
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« Reply #190 on: 08-28-2011 18:11 »

Love this episode! Loved the jokes and the fact we finally got a 'Aaw' moment. big grin

I'll give it a 9/10.
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« Reply #191 on: 08-28-2011 18:17 »
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I'll admit that the delivery of the Facebook line was perfect, I just wish she was doing some other slacking off task. Imagine if this ep was from 1999 and instead Leela said she was just feeding her Tamagotchi, think how dated that would already sound...

So some guy put this in the comments on the Futurama Stream site, under 'Cold Warriors':

this is one of the worst futuramas. Pop culture referances? this isn't the futurama i love - its family guy in space.

Some people need to learn how to spell.

Family Guy in space eh? If they're going to compare it to a Seth MacFarlane show then at least compare it to the one that has an alien as a main character...
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« Reply #192 on: 08-28-2011 18:34 »

Loved this episode. smile
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« Reply #193 on: 08-28-2011 18:35 »

Loved this episode. smile

Looking over your 8 posts, you are a man/woman of little words. laff
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« Reply #194 on: 08-28-2011 18:36 »

A friend and I were talking the other day about how the terms "folder" and "file" will pretty soon have no meaning outside of the digital realm - who besides maybe doctors or schools or other large institutions keeps physical files anymore? And even those are becoming obsolete.

I still keep physical files! Stop making me feel old, internets! frown
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« Reply #195 on: 08-28-2011 18:48 »

The Why of Fry is my fave ep, I do not remember such Pop Culture references... hmpf

Mary Worth, "American Pie," The Dave Matthews Band, Mylanta...those are just off the top of my head. I also just watched "The Luck of the Fryrish" and was surprised by the number of pop culture references (though I suppose Leela and Bender referencing '80s pop music made sense in the context of the episode). I didn't hate them then, so I guess it's a bit hypocritical for me to hate them now.

And I still think the Facebooking line was pretty hilarious, for the offhanded and disinterested way Leela said it. It wasn't obtrusive or "Lookit us referencing contemporary trends!" or whatever; I thought it was pretty funny, and easily one of the more seamless pop culture references in a season that's been full of 'em.
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« Reply #196 on: 08-28-2011 19:06 »

I haven't enjoyed season 6 very much because of the constant poor rehashing of original series episodes. Fortunately, since "Luck of the Fryrish" was already rehashed poorly, first in "Leela's Homeworld" then in "Jurassic Bark", I wasn't too bothered by "Cold Warriors".

There were some obvious rehashings - LOTF and CW both start with the Planet Express crew off on a trip somewhere and the discovery of the satellite on the moon (I forget the name) in CW is analogous to the scene in LOTF at the cemetery - but CW was enjoyable because emphasis wasn't placed on the twist that turned out to be predictable, like in "Leela's Homeworld" and "Jurassic Bark".

The final scene between Fry and his dad in the shack was genuinely warming. 7/10.
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« Reply #197 on: 08-28-2011 19:12 »

And I still think the Facebooking line was pretty hilarious, for the offhanded and disinterested way Leela said it. It wasn't obtrusive or "Lookit us referencing contemporary trends!" or whatever; I thought it was pretty funny, and easily one of the more seamless pop culture references in a season that's been full of 'em.

But did she have to say Facebooking? Could she not have just said social networking?...
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« Reply #198 on: 08-28-2011 19:23 »

Except no one ever really says "I'm social networking right now". It sounds awkward and technical in a corporate sort of way.
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« Reply #199 on: 08-28-2011 19:24 »

What about just networking?...
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