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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #320 on: 08-25-2011 02:25 »

It felt realistic to the future, that a hand being gnawed off or an arm being cut off is a minor injury in the Futurama verse.

Its not a hand with blood on it.  Its an extreme close up of a hand that has loads of thorns, and the thorns are then smashed deep into the hand with a book, and then with blood shooting out all over the shop.  Seing hands/fingers getting mutilated is one of the fastest ways to freak me out, along with eye screams.
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« Reply #321 on: 08-25-2011 02:46 »

I thought it was somewhat unrealistic to any time that having both hands gnawed off is something you don't even realise is happening until you see that you're apparently missing hands (which is why it's funny, but we're talking about the injuries in this episode like they're so unrealistic and cartoony).

I still feel like having a limb chopped off is more gory than a handful of thorns, but both of those scenes are drawn in a pretty cartoony and not very detailed way.
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« Reply #322 on: 08-25-2011 02:52 »

How is a hand with some blood on it worse than, say, seeing Zoidberg cut Fry's arm of with his claw in Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love?

Also, how is having Fry's hands eaten off by a dinosaur without him even noticing okay but none of the things that Zoidberg did to the crew in this episode are?

I'm pretty sure that if aforementioned hand eating happened in a new episode everyone would be complaining about how stupid and cartoony it was.
To me it all depends on if it made the joke funnier. The scenes you are talking about did increase the funny for me, from Fry beating his arm on Zoidberg during the fight scene in Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love, to Fry visiting that hand shop post-losing his hands to that dinosaur in I Dated a Robot. Coincidentally, both led to maturbatory jokes afterwards, heh.

Anyways, in this episode it didn't really make it funnier, to me. That bit was kinda lame. The whole thing about Fry getting his hand stuck with cactus needles was the funny bit.
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« Reply #323 on: 08-25-2011 02:53 »

I thought it was somewhat unrealistic to any time that having both hands gnawed off is something you don't even realise is happening until you see that you're apparently missing hands (which is why it's funny, but we're talking about the injuries in this episode like they're so unrealistic and cartoony).

I still feel like having a limb chopped off is more gory than a handful of thorns, but both of those scenes are drawn in a pretty cartoony and not very detailed way.

There wasn't any blood though in any of those scenes, however.  Having your arm chopped up and having it reattached by futuristic surgery is a lot more buyable then say... being sliced in half and acting as if it's just a minor inconvenience instead of killing you instantly.  I do see your point, however.
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« Reply #324 on: 08-25-2011 03:07 »

There was blood when Zoidberg chopped Fry's arm off but not when his hands were eaten off by the T. rex.
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« Reply #325 on: 08-25-2011 05:45 »

I definitely agree that most of the other weird injuries we've seen made it funnier. Plus all the examples (Fry's arm and hands being removed) wouldn't kill an actual person, as opposed to being cut in half/having one's spine removed etc. So while it's not at all realistic in those examples, it's not traumatic enough to eliminate Rule of Funny.
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« Reply #326 on: 08-25-2011 13:52 »

Basically to me the Fry's hand with blood close-up was just bloody/gory for the sake of it. I hope this isn't the beginning of a new trend...
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« Reply #327 on: 08-25-2011 17:04 »

Am I the only one who enjoyed the bloody hand?
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« Reply #328 on: 08-25-2011 17:06 »

Am I the only one who enjoyed the bloody hand?

Yes.  Fingorn absolutely terrifies me.  I still have nightmares about that episode of Spooks where the villains plunge a woman's hand into a deep fat fryer.   Then what comes next... *screams*
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« Reply #329 on: 08-25-2011 17:07 »

What about that guy who puts his hand in the garbage thingy in the Blob? Like a sink, we don't have those garbage/sink thingies here...
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« Reply #330 on: 08-25-2011 17:12 »

What about that guy who puts his hand in the garbage thingy in the Blob? Like a sink, we don't have those garbage/sink thingies here...

I don't remember the Blob, but I am so glad we don't have garbage disposals over here.  The episode where one tries to convince Amy to put her hand down it is one of the biggest reasons I am rather scared of them.  Oh and the episode of Daria where Jake says to Daria "Hey you've got small hands.  Can you help me get out my wedding ring?" "But my big brain tells me not to stick them into garbage disposals."

They probably don't slice up people's hands anywhere near as much as television would have me believe, but I still think of them as being miniature eldritch abominations that live under your sink where they dine exclusively on the fingers of foolish humans.
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« Reply #331 on: 08-25-2011 17:22 »

And that scene in Final Destination 2 where he drops his Proposal Ring down one and gets his hand stuck whilst trying to get it back, then the apartment sets on fire. evil laugh
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« Reply #332 on: 08-25-2011 17:28 »

*Counts fingers*

Yes my babies, you're all still here.  Praise the Sweet Zombie Jesus on the Moon. 
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« Reply #333 on: 08-25-2011 17:41 »

*Counts fingers*

Yes my babies, you're all still here.  Praise the Sweet Zombie Jesus on the Moon. 

How about an episode about Zombie Jesus? Or too controversial maybe!
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« Reply #334 on: 08-25-2011 19:39 »

They shoulda worked Zombie Jesus into Prop Infinite, have him rise from the grave to "defend marriage."
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« Reply #335 on: 08-25-2011 19:44 »
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It's true that a Zombie Jesus appearance is overdue... well, actually come to think of it, it might be better left as it is...

I am so glad we don't have garbage disposals over here.

Um, we have one in our house. It's a waste disposal intended for fruit skins and other things like that hmpf...
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« Reply #336 on: 08-25-2011 20:17 »

I'd be satisfied with just seeing what Zombie Jesus looks like. Throw him in a crowd scene as an extra, that'd work for me. And show the Prof wearin' a WWZJD? bracelet...get on that, writers!
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« Reply #337 on: 08-25-2011 20:23 »

I admit to a partial interest myself. I think perhaps if he was introduced he would need a little more presence than just a crowd shot though, maybe in some sort of ep with a religious theme, but fair do's...
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« Reply #338 on: 08-25-2011 20:44 »

They shoulda worked Zombie Jesus into Prop Infinite, have him rise from the grave to "defend marriage."

Or better yet had him say: "Will you please stop using my name to push your own agendas down other people's throats?  The Bible says divorce and remarriage is adultery but I don't see any of you getting your knickers in a knot about that!"
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« Reply #339 on: 08-25-2011 20:45 »

Maybe you should write for the show, SpaceGoldfish fromWazn?...
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #340 on: 08-25-2011 21:59 »

Maybe you should write for the show, SpaceGoldfish fromWazn?...

It's one of my biggest ambitions!  I think if I sent them a script now, they'd probably throw it in the bin without looking at it (they probably get them all the time.)  If I try winning some more awards or actually get something published and get an agent, they might take notice.
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« Reply #341 on: 08-25-2011 22:00 »

True, so fan fiction for the time being then?...
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« Reply #342 on: 08-25-2011 22:01 »

They shoulda worked Zombie Jesus into Prop Infinite, have him rise from the grave to "defend marriage."

Or better yet had him say: "Will you please stop using my name to push your own agendas down other people's throats?  The Bible says divorce and remarriage is adultery but I don't see any of you getting your knickers in a knot about that!"

Not to forget him saying "Also I used to hang out with 12 guys and a whore for my whole life, surely you can imagine what happened there."
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« Reply #343 on: 08-25-2011 22:07 »

They shoulda worked Zombie Jesus into Prop Infinite, have him rise from the grave to "defend marriage."

Or better yet had him say: "Will you please stop using my name to push your own agendas down other people's throats?  The Bible says divorce and remarriage is adultery but I don't see any of you getting your knickers in a knot about that!"

Not to forget him saying "Also I used to hang out with 12 guys and a whore for my whole life, surely you can imagine what happened there."

"Oh and I convinced the 12 guys to abandon their wives and children."

And yet Happy Feet and Shark Tale have been accused of having "homosexual undertones to corrupt our children."   Hmmmm. 
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« Reply #344 on: 08-25-2011 22:09 »

"Besides all the anal sex and fellatio... but else NOTHING!"
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« Reply #345 on: 08-25-2011 23:57 »

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« Reply #346 on: 08-26-2011 00:28 »

I thought Dr Zoidberg was a good colour in this episode, they got it just right! big grin...
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« Reply #347 on: 08-26-2011 01:23 »

Electric coral, just the way I like it.

I have a garbage disposal and admit to being occasionally constantly terrified by it.
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« Reply #348 on: 08-26-2011 09:14 »

They shoulda worked Zombie Jesus into Prop Infinite, have him rise from the grave to "defend marriage."

Or better yet had him say: "Will you please stop using my name to push your own agendas down other people's throats?  The Bible says divorce and remarriage is adultery but I don't see any of you getting your knickers in a knot about that!"

Not to forget him saying "Also I used to hang out with 12 guys and a whore for my whole life, surely you can imagine what happened there."

"Oh and I convinced the 12 guys to abandon their wives and children."

And their families. And themselves.

"If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. " --- Luke 14:26.
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« Reply #349 on: 08-27-2011 08:37 »

Why is Dr Zoidberg actually poor? Was part of their agreement that Professor not pay him?

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« Reply #350 on: 08-27-2011 09:00 »

I doubt it was actually part of the agreement, but Farnsworth doesn't seem to pay any of his employees very well, with the possible exception of Hermes, who's in charge of the books.  As for why Zoidberg is poorer than the others, you know what they say about a fool and his money.  Also Hermes hates him, and he's in charge of the books.
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« Reply #351 on: 08-27-2011 12:58 »

Dr Zoidberg traded his shares for a sandwich too, one which went mouldy before he ate it. A smart businessman if ever there was one...
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« Reply #352 on: 08-29-2011 07:20 »

I just watched Amazon Women in the Mood and want to point out that when the crew discovers Zoidberg's discarded shell and they think he's dead, the Professor's reaction (actually taking his goggles off to cry) could seem like foreshadowing for years to come. I just found it interesting to within the context of this episode.
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« Reply #353 on: 08-29-2011 13:11 »

Interesting point to raise, I guess in the context of The Tip of the Zoidberg it could now be seen that way. Also you just made me smile thinking about that whole scene in Amazon Women in the Mood, probably one of the greatest Futurama scenes smile...
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« Reply #354 on: 09-03-2011 03:42 »

Something that has started to annoy me: now that we know that Zoidberg had turned down a more profitable career at Mom's, the good old 'most lawyers are actually rich' joke has lost some of its pizazz. :|
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« Reply #355 on: 09-03-2011 07:28 »

Something that has started to annoy me: now that we know that Zoidberg had turned down a more profitable career at Mom's, the good old 'most lawyers are actually rich' joke has lost some of its pizazz. :|

Wasn't it doctors?

Maybe it's the "most" part that surprised him, he assumed that you had to sell your soul to make any sort of cash.

Anyway I loved this episode. It had a cool premise, Zoidberg and the Professor have been firing on all cylinders this season so to see them together was gravy, and it provided some significant backstory as well as some insignificant but interesting facts (Carol. Really Mom?).
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« Reply #356 on: 09-03-2011 10:59 »

Something that has started to annoy me: now that we know that Zoidberg had turned down a more profitable career at Mom's, the good old 'most lawyers are actually rich' joke has lost some of its pizazz. :|

I assume you meant to say 'doctors', but to me it still works.  I don't feel like Zoidberg were quite aware that his job at Mom's was profitable.  Zoidberg seems to be basing his reality on his own experience.  So even if he knew the job at Mom's profitable, he might have come to the conclusion that being a doctor was not profitable.
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« Reply #357 on: 09-03-2011 11:26 »

Why is Dr Zoidberg actually poor? Was part of their agreement that Professor not pay him?

He's poor for the purpose of all the easy and funny jokes that come along with being poverty stricken. Plus Zoidberg has a dog's loyalty to the Professor, and almost no self esteem. Hermes even cuts Zoidberg's pay one episode for something someone else did, and he doesn't protest; he just cries. If Mom offered him $100,000 a year and the Professor offered him a nice dumpster and all leftovers, and maybe a little allowance...he'd stay with Planet Express.
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« Reply #358 on: 09-03-2011 12:36 »

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« Reply #359 on: 09-03-2011 13:47 »

Haha that's awesome, SAVED. big grin
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