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Gorky

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« Reply #280 on: 01-06-2012 16:21 »

I get what Hein is saying, but I'm way too much of a completionist to not own every Futurama DVD set. (That said, disc one of the Volume Six DVD set is probably the weaker disc; you could throw that one away and still be left with a bunch of good episodes.)
DotheBartman

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« Reply #281 on: 01-06-2012 18:08 »
« Last Edit on: 01-06-2012 18:10 »

I think it's season 3, disc 3 maybe that I could most easily toss of any of them. And even that would make me sad.

Dude, EVERY TV show DVD set is going to have a couple weak episodes on it. Even if someone agrees with you on this episode, no one's going to care that you own a set of a show you like just because it has the episode with the whale in it. Grow up.

Also, you really care about the math of the way the discs are set up? God.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #282 on: 01-06-2012 18:26 »
« Last Edit on: 01-06-2012 18:49 »

Dude, EVERY TV show DVD set is going to have a couple weak episodes on it. Even if someone agrees with you on this episode, no one's going to care that you own a set of a show you like just because it has the episode with the whale in it. Grow up.

Seems you failed to get the point at all. Or you suffer from the internet phenomen "importanitis" ("The ability to comment everything leading to the believe that everything is suddenly one's business").

Josh came up with that theory that every decision regarding a collection (or elimination regarding certain pieces) is based on a wanted perception in other people's eyes. (Well..some internet users might even act that way, to be fair on him)
 Well..my decisions are based on my taste alone, and on my own assesment wether I want a piece in my collection.

I do not know how you see it (and -to be honest- I could not care less). You are of course free to base your own decision on "What spiderman999 and Xenalover have to say about it". Your choice, which is none of my business.


no one's going to care that you own a set of a show you like just because it has the episode with the whale in it. Grow up.

Hm...it seems some people like you do care that this DVD will NOT make it to my collection.
it's rather I do not care about THEM wink
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #283 on: 01-06-2012 18:37 »

I can sorta see why you wouldn't want a stain tarnishing your collection, but what I find hard to relate to is just how much you hate Möbius Dick. I think it's the best ep out of the whole of 6B, but for you it's your main reason for not buying the set?...

Yo Leela Leela sucks compared to it, and a lot would agree. I'm not saying you're wrong for not liking it, if you don't then you don't like it, but at least it was Sci-Fi and had great animation. Surely you can at least appreciate those aspects of it if nothing else?...

(That said, disc one of the Volume Six DVD set is probably the weaker disc; you could throw that one away and still be left with a bunch of good episodes.)

The only disc to even consider throwing away would be a disc containing Holiday Craptacular and Yo Leele Leela and nothing else. Luckily it doesn't exist so we don't have to make that decision...
DotheBartman

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« Reply #284 on: 01-06-2012 18:37 »

Even for yourself it's ridiculous. It's not one disc with just that episode, it's a disc with a bunch. This ep happens to take up a small amount of menu space. That's all. You can watch the other episodes on it if you want and just ignore it. Like I do with with lots of show episodes I own. Like I do with the abysmal 300 Big Boys (on a disc that I've still kept).

I mean, if I tossed the Temple of Doom disc from my Indiana Jones set, that could at least make some sense given that I don't really use it and it just takes up space. (Even then I wouldn't, because....I just don't care.) But even that would be far removed from tossing a disc with other episodes I liked just because one episode would "stain" my collection or whatever other melodramatic nonsense.

There just isn't any universe where this isn't irrational behavior.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #285 on: 01-06-2012 20:54 »

Agh can't believe it's going to be around 6-7 months until I get to watch this in HD! 11 for the Blu-ray!
meisterPOOP

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« Reply #286 on: 01-06-2012 21:02 »

Yes...You Will get this HD...
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #287 on: 01-06-2012 21:22 »

Agh can't believe it's going to be around 6-7 months until I get to watch this in HD! 11 for the Blu-ray!

If you guys have iTunes, I recommend it for $3 (American Currency).
DannyJC13

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« Reply #288 on: 01-06-2012 21:27 »

Of course we have iTunes, but you really think the new episodes would be on there and not on TV? no no
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #289 on: 01-06-2012 21:29 »

Well, if you don't have $3 laying around.......
DannyJC13

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« Reply #290 on: 01-06-2012 21:30 »

Uh, we have £s... And my point is the episodes aren't on iTunes here... no no
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #291 on: 01-06-2012 21:34 »

Ah, I see. Well, sorry you have to wait and all, and I know that this is a stupid idea, but maybe one of your American friends could buy it for you and you'll mail them a check or something.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #292 on: 01-06-2012 21:35 »

Nope. It's only out on Region 1. UK is Region 2. frown
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #293 on: 01-06-2012 21:47 »

You couldn't get your parents to get a Region Free Player?
DannyJC13

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« Reply #294 on: 01-06-2012 21:51 »

Too much hassle. And I'm not that desperate...
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #295 on: 01-06-2012 21:58 »

Well..not just for Futurama alone, but it might come handy regarding other DVDs, too wink
(Though I have to admit: I also got just a Region 2 player, and so far, I didn't get the impression I missed out on much wink )
DannyJC13

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« Reply #296 on: 01-06-2012 22:00 »

Clone High... frown
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« Reply #297 on: 01-06-2012 22:01 »

Do you guys watch mostly American shows? (I know you guys have Dr. Who) I mean, beside the original "office", there must not be much to watch over there. (Or is there)
DannyJC13

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« Reply #298 on: 01-06-2012 22:06 »

Misfits, The Inbetweeners, lots of one off drama shows, the Royle Family, uhh... An Idiot Abroad, The Ricky Gervais Show (animation originated in the US), Wallace and Gromit, the list goes on and on...
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #299 on: 01-06-2012 22:06 »

Wallace and Gromit is one of my favorite cartoons, or whatever it is. The show of my childhood. big grin
DannyJC13

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« Reply #300 on: 01-06-2012 22:08 »

It's actually set in the town I live in. Well, I live 3 1/2 miles away from it. But still technically within it.
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #301 on: 01-06-2012 22:10 »

Tell me Danny, do you like American TV better than British TV?
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #302 on: 01-06-2012 22:11 »

Wallace and Gromit is one of my favorite cartoons, or whatever it is. The show of my childhood. big grin

Then you must be probably looking forward to the pirates movie.
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #303 on: 01-06-2012 22:13 »

Not really, believe it or not. I'm older now, so I'm as much into it, but I don't mind watching some of the ol' classics.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #304 on: 01-06-2012 22:21 »

Tell me Danny, do you like American TV better than British TV?

2 of my 3 fave shows are American, so not really. It's not the country it's made it, it's the quality and the enjoyment I get from it.
meisterPOOP

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« Reply #305 on: 01-06-2012 22:49 »

Misfits...

Ha Ha Ha...Misfits....

Everyone I am associated with, and friends and my family are all misfits...

Ha Ha Ha...Misfits...
DannyJC13

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« Reply #306 on: 01-06-2012 22:52 »

Ha Ha Ha...Misfits....

Everyone I am associated with, and friends and my family are all misfits...

Ha Ha Ha...Misfits...



No joke, that gif is from Misfits...
Beanoz4

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« Reply #307 on: 01-06-2012 22:58 »

Wallace and Gromit is one of my favorite cartoons, or whatever it is.
It's stop motion that's why there's not much episodes available frown
meisterPOOP

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« Reply #308 on: 01-07-2012 00:15 »

Besides, People of the 30th Century could care less about the issues of the 20th Century (unless it in entertaining).
Gorky

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« Reply #309 on: 01-07-2012 15:58 »

* Gorky reads the preceding page of posts

So, what's this thread about? That whale episode or somethin'?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #310 on: 01-07-2012 16:15 »
« Last Edit on: 01-07-2012 16:20 »

"We're whalers on the Moon, we carry a harpoon, but there ain't no whales so we tell tall tales and sing our whaling tune..."

Maybe they should've tried looking in the fourth dimension then? When will they learn? Those idiots! no no...

Seriously though, I feel like I can't say it enough, but Möbius Dick rocks! Hating this ep makes Otis sad, not as sad as canned whale, but still very sad. I don't understand what is so bad about it, I mean it's one of the most Futurama-y eps of Season 6 if you ask me!...
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #311 on: 01-07-2012 16:29 »

It in a way reminds me of "The Sting". Leela going crazy, and some good jokes but some crazy shit goes down. Good episode indeed. 9/10
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« Reply #312 on: 01-07-2012 16:32 »

I love this episode. I'm hysterical for it for some reason. I just love this episode so much it's so epic. The hilarious Zoidberg moments and Leela's crazy moments are just too good. 10/10.

It in a way reminds me of "The Sting". Leela going crazy, and some good jokes but some crazy shit goes down. Good episode indeed. 9/10

Any reason why you lowered your score?...
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #313 on: 01-07-2012 16:37 »

Probably because of all the repeated viewings, so it's not as entertaining anymore. If I was to wait a long time, then I'm sure it would be a 10 again. So I guess I'm a 10/10 for it, but when I watch it a bunch of times, it just doesn't seem as fresh, that's all.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #314 on: 01-08-2012 00:33 »

I rated it a 9 as well. The story is spot-on, but I thought they exaggerated Leela's obsession a little too much. I'm aware it's common for writers to do this, (eg. Fry's stupidity is beefed up in "The Duh-Vinci Code" and Bender's laziness in "Benderama") but it was especially noticeable here.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #315 on: 01-08-2012 00:43 »
« Last Edit on: 01-08-2012 00:50 »

I rated it a 9 as well. The story is spot-on, but I thought they exaggerated Leela's obsession a little too much. I'm aware it's common for writers to do this, (eg. Fry's stupidity is beefed up in "The Duh-Vinci Code" and Bender's laziness in "Benderama") but it was especially noticeable here.

Well...Fry and especially Bender are Over-The-Top Characters. Even the most extremes are often seen as only a slight deviation from their normal plot/behaviour limits (the imhO hardest, toughest fight in the series was delivered by Fry in "Crustean in Love", when Zoidberg's far above human strength was shown in that episode and labeling him as a real superior opponent , Fry showed extreme  toughness by fighting with his own cut-off arm, etc... .
Yet, no one considered that duel really disturbingly OC, though physical fights -especially against these odds- are usually not Fry's theme, etc....)

Leela is a rather "low-key" character, so deviations from her normal behaviour are much more obvious.  On early Leela, the writers gave that character relatively few flaws (compared to the other characters). Leela becoming the character least likely to forgive OC/over-the-top writing is the price they had to pay for that.
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« Reply #316 on: 01-08-2012 02:53 »

If characters weren't stretched out once and a while, the show would lose a little pizazz. Like in: "Bendless Love" where Farnsworth becomes all nice and stuff, in "Hell is Other Robots" Bender becomes hilariously nice, and in "Overclockwise" and "Godfellas" Bender becomes an allmighty being.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #317 on: 01-08-2012 04:36 »

I can't remember if I already mentioned this or not, but after seeing this episode on my big TV, I loved it a lot more than on my original viewing. The animation is breathtaking. 
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #318 on: 01-08-2012 05:06 »

Epecially the weird gases that come went out of the blowhole. Just incredible!
DotheBartman

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« Reply #319 on: 01-08-2012 11:17 »

Leela is a character who is anal retentive and neurotic and frequently hits people when she's mad at them. I think her behavior made sense in context. It's not really a huge stretch when she already has obsessive, controlling tendencies.

I think this is my favorite 6B episode. Reincarnation is close, but loses a few points for the relatively middling second act. The atmosphere and storytelling in this one are pretty amazing.
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