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meisterPOOP

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« Reply #200 on: 08-01-2011 05:45 »

Not a bad episode, but nothing really sparks me as terrific.

It kind of had 'Anthology of Interest' feel to it, excluding the actual 'What If Machine.'

I give it a 6/10.

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« Reply #201 on: 08-01-2011 16:08 »

All the Presidents' Heads

After a re watch, I enjoyed this episode more. I guess I was just expecting a lot from the plot and the build up in the first act. I still think there are many better episodes in this half season but I don't dislike this one. I guess I laughed at more jokes that I may have missed when I was anticipating the pay off...

Anyhow, this episode has (Like I've mentioned) many great jokes that are mostly found in the second act, while the third act has nothing much to offer other than the final gag. (One thing I noticed is that the last two minutes when they traveled back to change what happened, they only spent three seconds there (Or so it seems) yet they managed to relive the twenty four hours in the past  wtf?)

Score: 7.0/10.0
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« Reply #202 on: 08-01-2011 16:49 »

Not a bad episode, but nothing really sparks me as terrific.

It kind of had 'Anthology of Interest' feel to it, excluding the actual 'What If Machine.'

In other words, it had a ludicrous and unbelievable (within the context of the show) plot but no framing device to excuse it.
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« Reply #203 on: 08-01-2011 17:57 »

Yup...
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« Reply #204 on: 08-01-2011 18:08 »

I suppose we should be thankful that they didn't try to work a Sarah Palin reference into the Paul Revere material.

The episode got one of the most fundamental parts of the Paul Revere story messed up (thank you very much, Henry Wadsworth Longfellow) -- Revere didn't receive the lantern signal, he was the one who ordered it to be set up. But, the episode did include a real-life Farnsworth as the villain. One sort of makes up for the other, historical-accuracy wise.
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« Reply #205 on: 08-01-2011 22:32 »

BTW Smitty came back after his early retirement from ep. 16 Law and Oracle. Just an interesting note.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #206 on: 08-01-2011 22:33 »

BTW Smitty came back after his early retirement from ep. 16 Law and Oracle. Just an interesting note.

Alternate continuity really doesn't count for that. So many little details may have been different. In the alternate timeline, Fry may not have even become a policeman.
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« Reply #207 on: 08-02-2011 00:23 »

(One thing I noticed is that the last two minutes when they traveled back to change what happened, they only spent three seconds there (Or so it seems) yet they managed to relive the twenty four hours in the past  wtf?)
That's because it's time travel. Think about it. If you leave point A, at say 6:00 and arrive in the past, you can spend 24 hours in the past, then time travel to point B, 3 seconds after 6:00 on that same day.
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« Reply #208 on: 08-02-2011 00:35 »

You could get back five minutes before you left. Back in time for "stuff."
Fnord
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« Reply #209 on: 08-02-2011 03:23 »

BTW Smitty came back after his early retirement from ep. 16 Law and Oracle. Just an interesting note.

Alternate continuity really doesn't count for that. So many little details may have been different. In the alternate timeline, Fry may not have even become a policeman.

Fry might not have even been born in that timeline ...
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« Reply #210 on: 08-02-2011 11:07 »

Um, yes he could... He wouldn't of existed when they got back to the British Version of NNY. The Professor might not have existed. And have you seen 'The Un-Freeze of a Lifetime' and 'The Why of Fry'? The Universe would have ceased to exist. For current reasons unknown.
meisterPOOP

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« Reply #211 on: 08-02-2011 11:39 »
« Last Edit on: 08-02-2011 11:49 »


In other words, it had a ludicrous and unbelievable (within the context of the show) plot but no framing device to excuse it.
Maybe Not...However, I will frame it this way.


"Help Prevent Stock Market Crashes...By Driving Safely."
Fnord
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« Reply #212 on: 08-03-2011 02:10 »

Um, yes he could... He wouldn't of existed when they got back to the British Version of NNY. The Professor might not have existed. And have you seen 'The Un-Freeze of a Lifetime' and 'The Why of Fry'? The Universe would have ceased to exist. For current reasons unknown.

Perhaps the Nibblonians would have chosen someone else to go back in time to do the nasty in the pasty and get the brain wave which saves them from the Brains.

OTOH, if one of the non-time-travelling characters in the alternate timeline acknowledged Fry, then yes, he existed there as well. Otherwise, he would just be a visitor.
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« Reply #213 on: 08-03-2011 02:23 »

Um, yes he could... He wouldn't of existed when they got back to the British Version of NNY. The Professor might not have existed. And have you seen 'The Un-Freeze of a Lifetime' and 'The Why of Fry'? The Universe would have ceased to exist. For current reasons unknown.

Didn't his ancestor fight commies in the American Revolution?  With that gone, who is to emulate him?  What are the chances the British Empire would even use Nevada for nuclear tests?  They have that Australian waste land too!  So much to speculate, so little time.
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« Reply #214 on: 08-03-2011 07:08 »

Any thing that involves time travel makes for an interesting story.
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« Reply #215 on: 08-03-2011 09:37 »

Wise first post. I think. laff

Didn't his ancestor fight commies in the American Revolution?  With that gone, who is to emulate him?  What are the chances the British Empire would even use Nevada for nuclear tests?  They have that Australian waste land too!  So much to speculate, so little time.

Yes exactly! Lots of things shouldn't have existed...
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #216 on: 08-03-2011 16:13 »
« Last Edit on: 11-10-2011 16:38 »

 frown
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« Reply #217 on: 08-03-2011 17:02 »

I agree! I really enjoyed that little scene!
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« Reply #218 on: 08-03-2011 19:30 »

They kept the beers in the head jar of Calvin COOLidge., clever clever.
Where else would you cool your beers?

Herbert Hoover's jar would be pretty chilly if it contains a decent vacuum.  shifty
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« Reply #219 on: 08-03-2011 19:38 »

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« Reply #220 on: 08-04-2011 09:55 »

Um, yes he could... He wouldn't of existed when they got back to the British Version of NNY. The Professor might not have existed. And have you seen 'The Un-Freeze of a Lifetime' and 'The Why of Fry'? The Universe would have ceased to exist. For current reasons unknown.

Didn't his ancestor fight commies in the American Revolution?

I always took this as a joke, making Yancy Fry look like a redneck. The word 'communism' wasn't used until 1840 (although there were undoubtely similar ideas before then; even in the Bible -- Acts 2:42-45.)
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #221 on: 08-04-2011 14:53 »
« Last Edit on: 11-10-2011 16:36 »

 cry
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« Reply #222 on: 08-04-2011 16:23 »

As much as I liked the previous episodes of the seasons, this one seemed too rush for me, like they could have gone farter with the idea of licking head and reviving memories.... I dont know how to explain it, it just seem too classic, too normal not enough craziness!!

this episode was a deception to me, I was expecting much much more...

but I'd still give it a 7/10 because it's way better than all the other existing show on TV
Fnord
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« Reply #223 on: 08-05-2011 08:04 »

One more pop reference here ... The line "Prepare to be drunk!" reminded me of Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, where Ford and Arthur are on the Vogons' ship; Ford describes faster-than-light travel as being "unpleasant, like being drunk." Arthur asks what's so bad about being drunk, and Ford says, "Ask a glass of water."
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« Reply #224 on: 08-05-2011 11:18 »

This is my late review. I LOVE IT. Could not stop laughing all the way through to the British crew. I know their accents are not good but it makes me laugh hehe. and Bender said "Bollocks" made me spat me drink out with laugher. funniest episode so far. 
Fnord
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« Reply #225 on: 08-06-2011 07:45 »

And of course, Philo Farnsworth invented television, and a nuclear fusion device. (Thanks, Wikipedia!) (Did anyone catch the name of the other "famous" Farnsworth?)

(Yes, I respond to my own posts.)

This was Dean Farnsworth, who doesn't have an article at Wikipedia (even though the Farnsworth Lantern Test does).

I've also been reading a Tim Leary biography, and ran across another Farnsworth: Dana L. Farnsworth was the director of Health Services at Harvard University, while Leary was doing his mushroom experiments. Farnsworth voiced the opinion that psychedelics like mescaline could be dangerous, and he eventually arranged it so that any psychedelics could only be given to him, not any of the other faculty.

David Farnsworth was a real counterfeiter, btw. Wikipedia also lists the following Farnsworths:

  • Bill Farnsworth, Australian rugby league footballer (brother of Viv)
  • Charles S. Farnsworth, American general in World War I, Chief of Infantry
  • E. Allan Farnsworth, American legal scholar
  • Elizabeth Farnsworth, correspondent and former anchor at the PBS NewsHour
  • Elon Farnsworth Michigan Attorney General
  • Elon J. Farnsworth, United States (Union) cavalry commander in the American Civil War
  • John Semer Farnsworth, A US Navy Officer convicted of spying for Japan from 19321934
  • Kyle Farnsworth, an American baseball player for the Tampa Bay Rays
  • Richard Farnsworth, American actor
  • Viv Farnsworth, Australian rugby league footballer (brother of Bill)
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« Reply #226 on: 08-06-2011 13:00 »

Yeah, I posted about that here on Wednesday.
Fnord
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« Reply #227 on: 08-07-2011 07:57 »

Yeah, but it was WAAAYYYY OVER THERRRRE ...
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« Reply #228 on: 08-19-2011 18:50 »

Very good episode, right up until I realised there was only a minute left and they were still in the alternate future. Run time needed to be longer unfortunately.
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #229 on: 08-22-2011 00:41 »

Very good episode, right up until I realised there was only a minute left and they were still in the alternate future. Run time needed to be longer unfortunately.

Yeah, this episode and Neutopia suffered big time for having such rushed endings. Act 1 for this one was way too long and should have been used 2 minutes of it to resolve the ending properly.
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« Reply #230 on: 08-22-2011 00:49 »

Exactly, I don't buy that it's all down to the shorter run time, it's time management and they don't seem to be able to do it properly in a lot of these new eps...
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #231 on: 08-22-2011 01:07 »

Exactly, I don't buy that it's all down to the shorter run time, it's time management and they don't seem to be able to do it properly in a lot of these new eps...

Yeah, it's bad writing and pacing if you ask me. Knocked the score down from a 9/10 to an 8/10 for me.
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« Reply #232 on: 08-22-2011 01:08 »

This episode had great potential but I agree, the first act was way too long. It took a while to get going and then there were a few solidly excellent minutes and then it just ended. The run time's only like 1.5 mins shorter, right? That's noticeable but it shouldn't be causing problems like this.
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #233 on: 08-22-2011 01:14 »

This episode had great potential but I agree, the first act was way too long. It took a while to get going and then there were a few solidly excellent minutes and then it just ended. The run time's only like 1.5 mins shorter, right? That's noticeable but it shouldn't be causing problems like this.

Agreed, they could have cut 3 minutes off that first act easily. I'd rather have a solid story structure than sacrifice some of it just for more gags. It reminded me of what happened to that Family Guy episode "Petarded", where the episode just ended without an explanation at the expense of more jokes.
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« Reply #234 on: 08-22-2011 02:10 »

I kinda expect it in Family Guy though, I mean they seem to find the time to show full songs with real life footage of musicians playing them within their eps rather than tell the story. Not that I dislike Family Guy, but still hmpf...
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« Reply #235 on: 08-30-2011 22:27 »

So I was seeing how many Jars I could read in the Museum, so far:


There are probably more, but that's as many as I got before I became bored. tongue
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« Reply #236 on: 12-09-2011 00:50 »

pretty funny stuff you fhitheads (just kiddin) 8/10

it was pretty good, but didn't cross th eline into the memorable zone
8/10
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« Reply #237 on: 12-23-2011 08:21 »

So all the Farnsworths in the beginning are apparently actual historical figures.

Quote from: David X. Cohen
The origin of this episode is that I was talking with Josh (Weinstein) who is a history buff, we wanted to do an episode that is in the alternative history vein of science fiction. We started looking for historical figures who had the same last name as one of our characters, we thought that might be a good (hook) for the episode...and we were looking for Frys and Farnsworths and we suddenly discovered this figure David Farnsworth, an actual counterfeiter from the Revolutionary War, who was executed for counterfeiting to try to bring down the Revolution.
spira

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« Reply #238 on: 12-24-2011 04:00 »

It's a cool premise, perhaps. It didn't mandate time-travel, though. They could have used this information to fuel some other plot, probably. Or at least come up with a better time-travel method that didn't seem cheap compared to earlier time-travel episodes.
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« Reply #239 on: 12-24-2011 05:19 »

It wasn't a very good episode unfortunately and the method of time travel was rather stupid.  And the less said about the Queen of England, the better.
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