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« Reply #40 on: 07-27-2011 22:59 »

There's no way that The Silence of the Clamps won't be bleeped on the DVD. The bleeping was obviously how it was written and is part of the joke to an extent.
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« Reply #41 on: 07-28-2011 05:16 »
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I think the biggest problem I have with showing Futurama to small children is that they're literally building their ideas of how the world works.

To a child trying to figure out the world, stuff like "My friends. My family. They're all dead. Woohoo!" is dark material indeed. Let's pick apart Space Pilot 3000, take a look at what the kids are exposed to. Selected this episode because most of us probably think of it as pretty innocuous, and it tops spacegoldfish's list on the first page of this thread.

It begins with a small child heckling an adult with no consequences.
Another adult angrily screams at him.
Girlfriend breaks up with him
He chants that he hates his life
His bicycle is stolen. No consequences to the thief.
IC Wiener joke. Imagine how charmed the kindergarten teacher will be if this one gets repeated in class.
Beer happens.
The "everyone I know is dead, hooray!" moment
"Strip naked and get on the probulator"
Scary spiked chip-implanter
"bite my shiny metal ass"
Suicide booth
"Come on, come on! Kill me already!"
"Well I didn't have anything else planned for today. Let's go get drunk!"
"Shut up, Terry"
"Well Fry, it was a pleasure to meet you, now I'm gonna go kill myself"
"Well, OK. But I don't want people thinking we're robo-sexuals."
Hall of disembodied heads.
URL declares he's going to get 24th century on Fry's ass, and then the police beat up the "good guy" Fry. No messages about police here.
Leela gets mad at a silly insult and beats up the police. URL curses, saying "damn"
"You're full of crap, Fry"
Bender steals ring, is caught, suffers no consequences beyond giving it back, consumes alcohol.
Bender shoves a very elderly professor around physically. No consequences.
Bender literally shits a brick
"Give 'em an ass-full of laser"
The crew successfully evades the police's attempt to kill them.

This isn't a children's show.
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« Reply #42 on: 07-28-2011 05:45 »

Here, I'll do it again for The series Has Landed.

Monster eats human.
Monster eats human despite human doing a good job.
Farnsworth pummels a giant baby bird with a frying pan.
Bender consumes alcohol.
Sequence of exchanges regarding how the good guys might die. Includes sonic diarrhea.
"What? My mother was a saint! Get out!" - Never too early to teach kids that insulting people's mothers gets results!
Bender uses the word "crap"
Bender steals a wallet. No consequences.
"If I wasn't so lazy I'd punch you in the stomach". Good old offer of casual violence.
Park rep attempts to confiscate alcohol. Bender reacts with violence and forces rep into tears.
"Idiots who need gifts for other idiots"
"Screw this phony stuff"
"sexeteria"
"beating his wife"
Bender suggests Leela will make him kill Amy.
Robot dies.
"We're gonna die!"
"No, NOW we're gonna die"
Bender shows off a thing he "won from a tourist's pocket". No consequences to his thievery.
Bender and Amy discuss making love.
"blackjack and hookers"
"Leave me here to die"
Man with gun.
"Don't touch my beautiful robot daughters"
"I'll learn ye to sleep with my robot daughters"
Gunfire as the wronged farmer tries to kill the "good guys".
Fry and Leela are about to die. Professor sees this, but can't be bothered to help, falls asleep instead.
"A crummy plastic flag and a dead man's tracks in the dust"
"Blackjack and hookers"
"Screw the whole thing"
"I'll kill you, Amy!"
"Yes I'll shoot her with my raygun when she comes. I'll be blasting all the humans in the world"
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« Reply #43 on: 07-28-2011 06:43 »

I really don't think someone saying "we're gonna die" will be harmful to children.
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« Reply #44 on: 07-28-2011 07:13 »

Way to pick and choose one example out of dozens.

Futurama is a great show for mature audiences. It has entertained me since 2001. I have been a mature adult as long as this show has existed.

That does not mean children of age 3 should view this profane, disrespectful, violent, sexually charged show. It's for adults. Children who are learning to poop in a toilet should not be exposed to humor about senseless consequenceless violence and bad manners and sexual promiscuity. The Futurama universe is freaking twisted. Kids who have no idea what the number 8 is shouldn't have adult programming inflicted upon them.
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« Reply #45 on: 07-28-2011 08:51 »

Bender and Amy discuss making love.

When I was about 11, it was this scene my dad walked in on me watching and wouldn't let me watch Futurama for a few weeks because he said it was unsuitable for me :/
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« Reply #46 on: 07-28-2011 09:43 »

I think I agree with everyone who has said that a lot of 'adult' content will go right over a 3 year old's head. I mean, when I look back, my neighbour got me to watch the movie Grease with her when we were 9 years old, and then when I saw the movie again in my late teens it really took me aback how much I had no idea that any of it was so..sexual. laff I had absolutely no idea at 9 years old, so I'm pretty sure a 3 year old would understand even less of that sort of thing. Although kids seem to be getting horribler younger these days so I have no idea. Three year olds now probably already know what a 15 year old knew while I was growing up.

Otherwise, it really is hard to judge these things once you're already old enough to watch ultraporn. Or even just porn. Because most things don't have as much shock value as they might have when you first learn/encounter things about sex, drugs, violence or whatever else. So to decide whether something is appropriate for someone much younger..well you have to know what they know, and how they might react to different things. Which is a lot of effort. But everyone's going to learn about all the nasty details of human society at some point, so why not with their parents who can point out where something is a joke and they shouldn't participate in such behaviours themselves?
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« Reply #47 on: 07-29-2011 09:49 »

It's not so much the stuff that goes over a kids' head (like sexual references or swearing which, as a babysitter or parent, I probably wouldn't care too much about as long as the kid didn't repeat them) but the stuff that DOESN'T. It's like TheMadCapper describes; there's tons of violence and disrespect toward others in the show without any consequences and a child of this age will see that and model it or at least incorporate it into their worldview. Toddlers are basically like sponges and they absorb anything and everything without being able to put it in proper context. And no amount of parental explanation can completely solve that problem if they're watching something inappropriate for them...not at that age.

I would happily give an 8 or 9-year old a toy gun as long as I felt they understood that it's just fantasy and that they already had good non-violence values instilled into them by that point. I would absolutely no way in hell give a 3-year-old a toy gun, because they will take it as a message about how to behave toward others no matter what I say to them verbally. Make any sense?
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« Reply #48 on: 07-29-2011 12:39 »

Those sum-ups were awesome TMC. laff
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« Reply #49 on: 07-29-2011 16:39 »
« Last Edit on: 07-29-2011 16:55 by SpaceGoldfishfromWazn »

I can see some of your points TMC, but I think a lot of them are also just nitpicking, since most of what you described can be found in television shows anyway.

Tom and Jerry?  Jerry steals someone else's food, and when the owner of the food retaliates, Jerry will usually smash him in the face with the hammer/set him on fire/drop hammers on his head.  A television series that is widely considered a U, no less!   Tom is often thrown out or violently abused by his owners.  Animal cruelty, abandoning your pets because they weren't useful/outlived their appeal, it's awwwright kids!
So what's the lesson we can take away from Tom and Jerry?  Helping yourself to other people's property is fine, as long as you are cute.  And it's perfectly acceptable to violently assault someone for trying to defend what actually belongs to them in the first place.
Some episodes are even worse.  In one episode, Tom is sent to the gullotine for being unable to keep Jerry/Nibbles from stealing food.  Nibbles basically just says "Oh well.  Sucks to be him."  Then they walk away with the stolen food.  If we subject that episode to the same level of scrutiny as you are doing to Futurama, then that amounts to "Take whatever you want, and let other people suffer the consequences."  In another episode, Tom and Jerry get cheated on by their one ep girlfriends, and sit mournfully on the tracks, waiting for the train to come.

Let that sink in a minute.  In an television series that is always given a U, the main characters basically try to kill themselves.  And its implied they do go through with it.

Spongebob?  Spongebob reguarly endangers peoples lives, ruins things for others by being so damn meddlesome, Squidward is rude to everyone, Mr Krabs is a cheapskate who exploits his workers at every chance.  Again, a  U.   Spongebob often includes lines "We are going to die!", references to deceased characters, threats of death/violence.  Again a U.

The opening of the Powerpuff features shots of the three main characters violently beating the snot out of the villains, complete with blood splatters.  The show also includes a lot of mild swearing (as well as an episode where a character cheerfully announces "Don't worry, I was an accident too!" Also there was a character who named Sedusa, who did exactly what her name indicates (including a married man).  The only rated dvd I have seen of the main series is a U.

I agree its a show thats not written for young children , but there are PLENTY of episodes whose content is comparable with those actually written for children or for everyone.  He's not going to watch every episode ever, he's just going to get to watch one of the milder episodes as a very rare treat.  Like what's so wrong with a Clockwork Origin?  I see PG as being parental guidance, in that it's something you should watch with the child, so you can turn it off if it upsets them, or you can hit fast forward if something inappropriate pops up.   Its like any1else said, most little girls grow up watching shows like Grease or Xanadu, and the sexual references just flies over their heads.  Even though Grease has the VERY questionable moral of:
A guy doesn't like you?  Well change everything about yourself, dress like a hooker and start smoking.   If you love him, YOU'LL DO IT.
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« Reply #50 on: 07-29-2011 19:57 »

If you think it's a good idea to expose a 3 year old you love to adult content, have fun. I wouldn't do it though.

And since you asked about A Clockwork Origin, that episode has several instances of swearing, Cubert mouthing off to his caretaker, his caretaker teaching him an unhealthy response to bullying, and then at the end, declaring the child a horrible person who he's sick of.
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« Reply #51 on: 07-29-2011 20:45 »

I honestly don't feel some robots turning into fancier robots with anything inapprorpiate fast forwarded is really going to teach him how to smack other children in the face, bad words or stealing.

He can learn that from going to playschool and being around other children his age, like a normal child.
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« Reply #52 on: 07-29-2011 21:08 »

Like I said, if you want to expose a tiny child to violence, cursing, disrespect, lack of consequences for evil actions, and sexual behavior, go for it. Have fun. Justify it to yourself by saying they won't understand or absorb or imitate it.

I wouldn't take that path myself though. I've already stated my position several times and even gone through episode transcripts line by line to point out the constant unsuitability of the show for a 3 year old. And those were episodes you mentioned as being among the most kid-friendly. I think I've made my point clearly and consistently, and unless something new enters this discussion I'm done here.
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« Reply #53 on: 07-29-2011 21:24 »
« Last Edit on: 07-29-2011 21:34 »

This is why I plan to raise my children in bubbles. Not one of those half-assed glass bubbles, either - they could see all kinds of crap through those things. Nope, opaque bubble all the way.

:edit: more seriously and less snarky, it's parents jobs to prepare kids for the world. The idea that they will be irreversibly contaminated by exposure to Unacceptable Ideas strikes me as ludicrous. Whatever they might do as children, when people grow up, they tend to look to their parents as role models and examples for behavior. Crime, violence, divorce, across the board these behaviors statistically linked to parents who do the same, not to how much they witnessed these things on TV.  Worry less about what your kids see on TV, and just commit the time to talking to them about it, and in general about life, and about the moral virtues you want to instill in them. When the hormones clear and they enter the world as adults, it is their parents they will ultimately emulate more than the characters they see on TV.
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« Reply #54 on: 07-29-2011 21:29 »

And you're refusing to believe what SpacGoldfish pointed out, TMC, that a hell of a lot more series are violent. Growing up I was exposed to all these cartoons and more. Hell, look at Johnny Bravo: always hitting on women and being a misogynistic dickhead. Cow and Chicken is very not for children, now that I look back, and all these similar shows which have very, very adult references in them but as a young child they just go over your head.

Me and everyone within my age group grew up with the extreme violence that's often shown in these cartoons, and none of us are any worse for wear. If anything, it's other influences that have made certain people I knew bad people - such as their parents being violent or swearing around them.

My friends have a five year old who has been allowed to watch Futurama seasons 1-4 since he was about 3 years old, and he's not any worse for wear either. They draw the line with the movies, but he's a smart kid and he hasn't picked up any ideas just from watching this cartoon.

The problem nowadays is that people are too keen to protect their kids from everything... so everything seems to be a bad thing when you look at it. I'll admit that Futurama often deals with things that aren't suitable for children, but no more than any other television show that's around nowadays.

You're just being rude, TMC, and I could understand it if you had any argument at all that Futurama is worse than anything else... but it's not. So you have nothing. The way you're talking, children shouldn't be exposed to anything ever. Don't let them go to pre-school, another child might hit them! That's them learning bad behaviour. My mother works in a nursery, and I've seen some nasty little shits in there influencing the behaviour of the other nicer children. Shit happens, especially as a kid. Deal with it.
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« Reply #55 on: 07-29-2011 21:47 »
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Nutmeg, are you on your period? You're being ruder than TMC by far. Don't be a dick. That's my job.
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« Reply #56 on: 07-29-2011 21:48 »
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I have no objection to letting them watch once they're old enough to understand what they're watching and they understand what is right and wrong.

We're talking about a 3 year old. A kid who is 2 years too young for kindergarten.

And pointing out that other shows have some aspects of what I point out as adult material fails to address the whole issue. Futurama doesn't just feature violence and references the kiddies won't pick up on. Every episode has cursing. There is no dichotomy between good and bad, and often no consequences when the good guys do bad things.

I'm not saying "OMG Futurama will ruin your child", I'm saying I wouldn't show it to a three year old.

Most out-of-character post in the history of PEEL.

Also seems worth noting in this discussion, I find it impossible to imagine Futurama holding the attention of a typical 3-year-old for more than 30 seconds.
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« Reply #57 on: 07-29-2011 21:51 »

I wouldn't show a 3-year old Tom and Jerry. I would gladly let a 7 year old watch it.

There is a big, BIG difference between the grade school age kids watching that or Powerpuff Girls or Johnny Bravo and the ones who should be watching Sesame Street and Dora. It's a fallacy to assume that even all kids' shows are appropriate for all kids.
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« Reply #58 on: 07-29-2011 21:57 »

Pay attention to what Bartman says. I don't want to keep children locked away in bubbles until puberty. I just don't think Futurama is right for a three year old. Tallywhacker said it well before he/she/it edited their post to make crude jokes instead.
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« Reply #59 on: 07-29-2011 22:04 »
« Last Edit on: 07-29-2011 22:06 »

I don't entirely disagree with the sentiment being expressed by tmc and others, I just think there's such a thing as taking it to irrational extremes. The most important thing you can do in "shaping the paradigm" of a 3-year-old who watches too much TV is to remind them as many times a day as humanly possible "tv is not real. the things people do on TV aren't real, and so they don't hurt anybody, and they can't get hurt themselves, because they're just imaginary."

Be too overprotective and you have to deal with the forbidden fruit and ministers' daughter effects later. Or, worse yet, they'll grow up resentful and reject everything you ever taught them on the grounds that they just can't accept a few of them.
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« Reply #60 on: 07-29-2011 22:48 »

Quite. I'm aware that the following example is a little different, but nevertheless:

With alcohol, I was always allowed it. Never a lot, just a small glass of wine at Christmas, or an alcohol at a party, or a sip of beer when I was younger. Things like that meant that when I got older, alcohol wasn't a forbidden fruit, and at 20 years old, I'm pretty much bored of it, having been drinking a lot since I was 14 or so years old. My parents never stopped me as long as I was being sensible and not ending up in hospital.

All the people I know who had parents saying things like "no alcohol, not even a sip until you're old enough to drink" are now binge drinkers on weekends. They see nothing more fun than going out, spending a fortune on alcohol and puking their guts up over whatever guy they've dragged home.

I'm a lot better for having been exposed to things at an early age - but exposed in a good way, in a safe environment, so to speak.
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« Reply #61 on: 07-30-2011 01:44 »

I wouldn't be too concerned with letting toddlers watch futurama, because a lot of the inappropriate humor is subtle. Simpsons, on the other hand, deals with similar mature topics but in a more overt manner, so I'd avoid it.

My parents let my little brother watch Seinfeld at a young age (5 or 6). My mother was a little worried that he would pick up some of the horrible mannerisms from the show, but was thoroughly surprised to see that what he learned were the morals of the show (e.g. know your girlfriends' names) and not the other crap. As long as you make sure children understand that a lot of TV teaches you what NOT to do, I think you'll be just fine.

That said, my parents would never let my brother see Friends when he was younger because the mature content was so damn blatant.
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« Reply #62 on: 07-30-2011 02:50 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2011 02:52 by SpaceGoldfishfromWazn »

Thankyou Dwurt, that is what I have been trying to say, and again, the fast forward button can be hit.

I'm sorry Madcapper, I can see with some of the things you are saying, but the majority of your complaints with the show are just nitpicking/pedantic I am sorry to say, and would exclude just about every children's show ever.  


Monster eats human.
Dragon eats human in Shrek.  Shrek is a U.
Farnsworth pummels bird with frying pan
Fiona causes a mother bird to explode.  She and Shrek then eat the eggs.
Bender consumes alcohol.
Sequence of exchanges regarding how the good guys might die. Includes sonic diarrhea.
Toilet humor? Children hate toilet humor!
Bender steals a wallet. No consequences.
You do know my Tom and Jerry argument, right?
"Idiots who need gifts for other idiots"
Good.  I think teaching children not to be fleeced by overpriced merchandise at theme parks is an EXTREMELY valuable life lesson.
Bender shows off a thing he "won from a tourist's pocket". No consequences to his thievery.
At least he didn't whip out a frying pan and smash the tourist's jaw in, like Jerry would do to Tom.
Bender and Amy discuss making love.
When a man and a woman love each other very much, they will rotate 45 degrees, engage rotors, and nine months later...
Man with gun.
Most kids his age have toy guns.
"Don't touch my beautiful robot daughters"
I will tell him to be respectful of attractive gynoids.   They are people too.  Sort of.
"I'll learn ye to sleep with my robot daughters"
Children don't know what that means.  Another thing that goes other their heads.
Gunfire as the wronged farmer tries to kill the "good guys".
Do I need to bring up the Tom and Jerry argument again?
"A crummy plastic flag and a dead man's tracks in the dust"  
What's wrong with that?  Children don't know what die means.  If death was so awful, why are there skeletons of dead knights in Shrek?
"Blackjack and hookers"
Again he won't know what hooker means.  But I can just burp really loudly when he says hooker, just in case.


"Screw the whole thing"

"I'll kill you, Amy!"
And? That line has turned up in a lot of children's shows.  Children are much more likely to hear their mother say it about their father, however.

"Yes I'll shoot her with my raygun when she comes. I'll be blasting all the humans in the world"
Well if this leads to a raygun Columbine at the local petting zoo, I'll buy you a coke.
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« Reply #63 on: 07-30-2011 03:17 »

Like I said before, feel free to expose the 3-year old to whatever you want. I have nothing to do with the kid. Keep justifying it to yourself and telling yourself I'm wrong.

I just don't agree with you and I think age three is just too young. The most convincing argument I've seen brought here is about the "minister's daughter", and that has nothing to do with 3 year olds.
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« Reply #64 on: 07-30-2011 04:57 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2011 05:10 by SpaceGoldfishfromWazn »

I'm not justifying or convincing myself anything.  I was agreeing with you at some point, until your accusations became quite frankly, ridiculous.  I simply read through your list, and noticed that many of them render many popular children's programs and movies rated U unfit for viewing by small children.  

Strong sexual references? Of course.  Graphic bloody violence? Yes.  Episodes with those in them are not ones I would show to a young child.  If he hadn't already seen BwaBB I certainly wouldn't have ever thought of showing him Futurama, and it is certainly not an episode I would have put on for him.

Toilet humor?  Disrespect to authority figures?  No evidence of laser guided karma?  Slapstick? Now we are going into Pedantia Shelteria.  Do you honestly think children's shows are free of those things?  Have you ever watched a children's television program for more then fifteen seconds?  Honey, just go to the television, and block just about every channel, including the children's ones.   Don't wait for the children to be born. If you don't there's a chance they could see Spongebob hitting Patrick and not saying sorry straight away, which as we all know, is just terrible.   I also hope you don't plan on letting them leave the house, because they might hear bad words or see a tramp knocking back a few.  But they won't be safe at home!  Can you honestly say you won't at least say "Damn!" if you stand on a nail?  Or pour yourself a glass of wine for dinner?

I am actually quite surprised about some of those episodes, Adrenalin.  I thought Leela's Homeworld was pretty intense (what with her trying to kill her parents at some point), and I would have thought Crustacean in Love would be a 12.   They misspelled Jurassic Bark.  Hehehe.  laff
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« Reply #65 on: 07-30-2011 05:41 »

I am actually quite surprised about some of those episodes, Adrenalin.  I thought Leela's Homeworld was pretty intense (what with her trying to kill her parents at some point), and I would have thought Crustacean in Love would be a 12.   They misspelled Jurassic Bark.  Hehehe.  laff

Yeah, you can get away with alot of stuff in an animated cartoon at a PG level. I don't actually recall anything bad happening in Leela's Homeworld, as Leela doesn't actually attack her parents. However, I'm surprised at Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love only being a PG too, because it's one of the darkest episodes in the series. Looking back at things, I'm surprised "Treehouse Of Horror V" from The Simpsons got rated a PG too! I just think that the censors are more lenient towards animation and comic violence overall, and for that reason it can get away with a PG easily, where as drug and sex references, pushes it up to a 12. Either way, I think ages 7+ for Futurama would be fine for anyone.
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« Reply #66 on: 07-30-2011 05:53 »

I am actually quite surprised about some of those episodes, Adrenalin.  I thought Leela's Homeworld was pretty intense (what with her trying to kill her parents at some point), and I would have thought Crustacean in Love would be a 12.   They misspelled Jurassic Bark.  Hehehe.  laff

Yeah, you can get away with alot of stuff in an animated cartoon at a PG level. I don't actually recall anything bad happening in Leela's Homeworld, as Leela doesn't actually attack her parents. However, I'm surprised at Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love only being a PG too, because it's one of the darkest episodes in the series. Looking back at things, I'm surprised "Treehouse Of Horror V" from The Simpsons got rated a PG too! I just think that the censors are more lenient towards animation and comic violence overall, and for that reason it can get away with a PG easily, where as drug and sex references, pushes it up to a 12. Either way, I think ages 7+ for Futurama would be fine for anyone.
Maybe you're right.  I am pretty dubious of some of their reviews (for example all of their family guys are 15 with a few 12s sprinkled here and there, while Monkey Dust, which is much, much, much, MUCH more dark/violent/sexual in every way has the same rating.  I suppose they are more lenient towards cartoons as you say, even ones that feature animated caricatures of Harold Shipman, a bunch of yuppies playing russian roulette and a office nerd going cottaging)
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« Reply #67 on: 07-30-2011 11:17 »

I was exposed to all kinds of terrible things at a very young age, and look at me! I turned out awesome!

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What? Why are you looking at me like that?!
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« Reply #68 on: 07-30-2011 13:16 »

When I was growing up, there were adults who believed the Simpsons was a bad show.  Since then, I think the show has actually started delving into even worse territory and being overt: Homer becomes a stoner and tries to steal marijuana Otto's weed while he kidnaps him in his attic; Bart and Homer find magic crystals (crystal meth) and run around having magical powers that keep them awake forever.

My parents let me watch the Simpsons, and we often watched it together.  I wasn't allowed to watch South Park though.  At an earlier age, my mom was against me watching Ren & Stimpy; I watched it anyways.  I watched television on my own by the time Futurama came on... I must have been around 14 at the time, and arguably Futurama has mature themes even for a 14 year old.  I remember watching Love's Labours Lost in my bedroom with a 3 inch tv and realizing that I was watching something adult when Leela sleeps with Fry.

However, I don't think that anything on Futurama has adversely affected me... except in High School when I incorrectly answered a question on a test about Ahab's first mate... guess what, it wasn't Qeequeg!  (I should have remembered that episode of the X-Files where Scully and Mulder are stranded 3 feet away from the shore of a lake).

I don't think a 3 year old will understand anything on Futurama to be honest... or remember it for that matter, and if it does influence them, it would probably be rather subtle.  I think DotheBartman was actually more correct in the age range of 5-10.  This is a highly influential range for a person, and I think children at those ages are very capable of immitating what they see on television. 

As I've already mentioned, I've already exposed two children in that age range to Futurama.... they didn't really seem to get most of it though... they'd just stare at the screen when it did stuff and look back and giggle sometimes... they didn't seem to get the jokes or notice anything, they just liked it.  We tried to avoid certain things, and if there were curse words in anything we'd be sure to tell them that those were bad words.  I think I had more problems with the games I was making on my computer.... one of them was a creepy one where bender eats babies.... so I hid a lot of files on my computer, and made Bender have hearts for eyes and eat peppermint lugnuts instead.

One of the guys I lived with at the time told me he was very much for exposing your children to stuff.  I think he was a pretty decent, resourceful guy.... although he wasn't perfect, he was good at stealing stuff.  But he understood relationships and how important children are.  One of the best things he ever told me though was that his parents let him watch anything on tv at a young age.... but, they made it very clear that what happened on television wasn't real and taught him how to make a distinction between the two.  I think that's the parenting style I'd best like to take.... but arguably young children shouldn't necessarily be watching Futurama.... or like that eleven year old that came over to my house one time and we watched Butterfly Effect.... after about 45 minutes, I realized we'd watch a child torture a dog to death, a mother open a mailbox with a bomb in it while carrying a baby, and a man go to prison and shank a guy in the genitals....... only then did I realize the age of my guest and that what we were watching was probably not appropriate.  I must have been about 16 at the time.

Strangely enough... I think the original run of Futurama is probably ok, and deserves a PG style rating.  In fact, when it was first showing, I remember a cover of Nickelodeon magazine (printed for children) featuring the show.... so take of that what you will.

I don't think anything past the movies is much kosher anymore though.
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« Reply #69 on: 07-30-2011 13:17 »

I have no objection to letting them watch once they're old enough to understand what they're watching and they understand what is right and wrong.

We're talking about a 3 year old. A kid who is 2 years too young for kindergarten.

And pointing out that other shows have some aspects of what I point out as adult material fails to address the whole issue. Futurama doesn't just feature violence and references the kiddies won't pick up on. Every episode has cursing. There is no dichotomy between good and bad, and often no consequences when the good guys do bad things.

I'm not saying "OMG Futurama will ruin your child", I'm saying I wouldn't show it to a three year old.

Most out-of-character post in the history of PEEL.

Also seems worth noting in this discussion, I find it impossible to imagine Futurama holding the attention of a typical 3-year-old for more than 30 seconds.

Where did you find that quote? confused
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« Reply #70 on: 07-30-2011 13:28 »

He quickly edited away after realising that he used the wrong account.
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« Reply #71 on: 07-30-2011 14:53 »

Tallywhacker..? confused
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« Reply #72 on: 07-30-2011 15:01 »

Yes
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« Reply #73 on: 07-30-2011 16:55 »

I would never admit to something like that!
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« Reply #74 on: 07-30-2011 17:06 »

I seriously think that a 3 years old can watch all the episodes of Futurama, because he won't understand anything
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« Reply #75 on: 07-30-2011 17:18 »

I seriously think that a 3 years old can watch all the episodes of Futurama, because he won't understand anything

But would she understand anything?...
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« Reply #76 on: 07-30-2011 17:26 »

No, of course!
She is a girl, and she can't understand anything.
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« Reply #77 on: 07-30-2011 21:33 »

Like yo mama!
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« Reply #78 on: 07-31-2011 18:55 »

forgive the tangent, but I'm testing a theory.

Does anyone know what color the sky is on a typical sunny afternoon?
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« Reply #79 on: 07-31-2011 18:57 »

Blue... Light Blue... Almost aqua-ry....
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