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Jezzem

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« Reply #400 on: 02-13-2012 00:05 »

It makes sense. I mean... if I was frozen, I think I'd want a crash course in history and pop culture following when I was frozen.

And I'd probably watch lots of "classics" from shortly after I was frozen. Who knows, maybe he was looking forwards to The Beach before he got frozen.

Perhaps The Beach was one of the tapes he watched in his 20th century apartment in A Fishful of Dollars.
Tofu_Lion

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« Reply #401 on: 02-13-2012 00:48 »

Cute episode. Gave it a 6/10.
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« Reply #402 on: 02-13-2012 17:21 »

Perhaps The Beach was one of the tapes he watched in his 20th century apartment in A Fishful of Dollars.

Another awesome theory. big grin
Cinimod

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« Reply #403 on: 02-13-2012 18:40 »

I think Totalnerduk got his centuries wrong.
Scrappylive

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« Reply #404 on: 02-13-2012 21:38 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2012 22:20 »



Despite the survival of the original asbestos, most tapes were damaged in the 2443 after the second coming of Christ. Perhaps it was a DVD he watched?
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #405 on: 02-13-2012 23:26 »
« Last Edit on: 02-13-2012 23:45 by totalnerduk »


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I think Totalnerduk got his centuries wrong.

Quote or retraction, plz.

Edit: Perhaps this will be helpful (From chat):

<booze> tnuk: your YLL post, I guess Cinimod means this "due to him being from the 29th Century." should be "20th"

<totalnerduk> Bender is NOT from the 20th Century

<booze> oh wait, I misread, nvm

<booze> still, he's from the late 29th century, so it's not easily forgiven

<totalnerduk> the point is, it's old information for him.

<booze> you beeing from the late 20th century still wouldn't reference pop stars from nearly 1000 years back wink

<totalnerduk> He could be aware of it for any number of reasons

<totalnerduk> same as we are aware that the Egyptians used crocodile dung as birth control.

<booze> he isn't even aware of half the stuff in present futurama time though wink

<totalnerduk> Bender? He's aware of what he needs to be aware of.

<totalnerduk> Perhaps that information was important to him at one point.

<booze> Fry: "I was frozen for a thousand years" Bender: "You were? Learn something dumb every day"

<totalnerduk> See, that information's not important to Bender.

<booze> and whatsherface should be more important?

<totalnerduk> But a thousand year old human slut who for all we know is some sort of sex goddess in the thirtieth century MIGHT be.

<booze> quite doubtable

<totalnerduk> It's comparable (again to use the ancient Egyptians as an example) to you knowing about Cleopatra.

<booze> quite a lot of difference between a woman who ruled an empire and some slut

<totalnerduk> Don't forget, our information preservation is a lot better than theirs. Plus, Aguilera was at one point a celebrity rather than just some random slut.

<booze> not like you know any of the names of people who sung for Cleopatra

<totalnerduk> Like I said, our information preservation is greater than theirs. Besides which, you'll notice I said LEAST easily forgiven.

Bender's reference to Christina Aguilera is probably the least easily forgiven, due to him being from the 29th Century.
Jezzem

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« Reply #406 on: 02-14-2012 00:41 »

Despite the survival of the original asbestos, most tapes were damaged in the 2443 after the second coming of Christ. Perhaps it was a DVD he watched?

All the 20th century TV he was watching was on VHS tapes so he obviously managed to buy the few tapes that weren't damaged during the second coming of Jesus. Of course, it's much more likely that it's just a continuity error.
Scrappylive

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« Reply #407 on: 02-14-2012 00:46 »

Continuity error? NEVAR! As fans, we demand that episode 6ACV21 is completely accurate. evil laugh
Jezzem

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« Reply #408 on: 02-14-2012 00:54 »

6ACV21? I meant that it was more likely a continuity error that he was watching VHS tapes in A Fishful of Dollars because they hand't established that most tapes were damaged during the second coming at that point.
Scrappylive

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« Reply #409 on: 02-14-2012 00:59 »

Hmm... good point. I must be tired today. I keep having small errors like that in my writing...
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #410 on: 02-14-2012 01:12 »
« Last Edit on: 02-14-2012 01:13 »

Correct me if I'm wrong here (Ha, like I need to ask for that to happen), but I believe the 19th century refers to the 1800s. 20th century refers to the 1900s. The 29th century would refer to the 2800s and the 30th to the 2900s.

Bender, having been built approximately 3 years before the year 3000, would be from the 30th century by my reckoning.

Regarding the VHS continuity "error", the Professor described the second coming of Jesus as having destroyed most video tapes. If he meant all, he would have said all of them. It's no error that Fry has VHS tapes. He's fabulously wealthy in A Fishfull of Dollars and can afford rare antiques.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #411 on: 02-14-2012 01:18 »

<totalnerduk> Bender is NOT from the 20th Century

He's lived through the 20th century multiple times (Roswell That Ends Well, Bender's Big Score) so... he sort is.
Jezzem

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« Reply #412 on: 02-14-2012 01:54 »

Regarding the VHS continuity "error", the Professor described the second coming of Jesus as having destroyed most video tapes. If he meant all, he would have said all of them. It's no error that Fry has VHS tapes. He's fabulously wealthy in A Fishfull of Dollars and can afford rare antiques.

That's why I said this:
he obviously managed to buy the few tapes that weren't damaged during the second coming of Jesus.
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #413 on: 02-14-2012 02:07 »

6ACV21? I meant that it was more likely a continuity error that he was watching VHS tapes in A Fishful of Dollars because they hand't established that most tapes were damaged during the second coming at that point.

This is the part i was objecting to. I don't think there's any continuity error here. At no point in the entire series have they ever stated that there are no more VHS tapes.

Unless you meant something other than what I thought you were saying, in the post quoted above.
Jezzem

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« Reply #414 on: 02-14-2012 02:28 »

I meant that you could call it a continuity error in the same way that you could call it a continuity error when they say there are just the two parallel universes in I Dated a Robot but neither of those are REALLY continuity errors because Fry must have purchased the few VHS tapes that weren't destroyed and they simply didn't know of the existence of any other parallel universes until The Farnsworth Parabox.
Cinimod

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« Reply #415 on: 02-14-2012 21:50 »
« Last Edit on: 02-14-2012 22:03 »

TheMadCapper has explained the point I was trying to make. I realise that I should have used a quote to show you what I meant, so here's one:

Bender's reference to Christina Aguilera is probably the least easily forgiven, due to him being from the 29th Century.

I think Bender is from the 30th century, if TMC and I are correct. It just seemed unlike you to make a mistake like that Totalnerduk, based on previous posts from you that I have seen.

EDIT: Here's a website to explain: Which Century is it?
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #416 on: 02-14-2012 21:53 »

Honestly, Bender is form a lot of centuries...I mean, it's possible he met her in BBS. And she could be in the Head Museum...and so could GaGa! BAM!
Scrappylive

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« Reply #417 on: 02-14-2012 22:04 »

Bender lived through a lot of centuries while hiding underground (both BBS and RwTEW), not hanging out with celebrities.
Solid Gold Bender

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« Reply #418 on: 02-14-2012 22:08 »

But he had to go through a lot of stuff to get the artifacts and precious items. There's a chance he could of met one of them during so...Plus GaGa could be in the head museum!
Beanoz4

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« Reply #419 on: 02-14-2012 22:13 »

Honestly, Bender is form a lot of centuries
He isn't from a lot of centuries, he just visited them like we do with other country's. 
Scrappylive

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« Reply #420 on: 02-14-2012 22:16 »

But he had to go through a lot of stuff to get the artifacts and precious items. There's a chance he could of met one of them during so...Plus GaGa could be in the head museum!

How many of those artifacts are from the early 21st century?

The head museum is a good point, though.



Honestly, Bender is form a lot of centuries
He isn't from a lot of centuries, he just visited them like we do with other country's. 

I was born in New Mexico but have lived in Oregon for 20 years. I say I am from Oregon, even though I could just as easily claim I am from New Mexico. I visited Idaho a couple years ago - I do not say I am from Idaho. If you live through the entire century, I think you can say you are from it.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #421 on: 02-14-2012 22:18 »
« Last Edit on: 02-14-2012 22:20 »

Honestly, Bender is form a lot of centuries
He isn't from a lot of centuries, he just visited them like we do with other country's.  


He's lived through every second of countless decades multiple times - he's arguably more from those eras than people that were born then.

And I mean, you could say that Fry is from 1999, right?

Well he wasn't born in 1999, he wasn't even born in the 90s.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #422 on: 02-15-2012 19:43 »
« Last Edit on: 02-15-2012 19:54 by totalnerduk »

TheMadCapper has explained the point I was trying to make. I realise that I should have used a quote to show you what I meant, so here's one:

Bender's reference to Christina Aguilera is probably the least easily forgiven, due to him being from the 29th Century.

I think Bender is from the 30th century, if TMC and I are correct. It just seemed unlike you to make a mistake like that Totalnerduk, based on previous posts from you that I have seen.


You're right. I should have said the 30th Century. Hm. Either my brain wasn't working when I made that post (likely), or somebody went back in time to change the way we refer to centuries and I didn't get the memo (unlikely). Either way, thanks for the clarification. I was honestly rather confused until Bend-err pointed out which post was most likely the one under debate, so quotes really are useful in this type of conversation.

... She could be in the Head Museum...and so could GaGa! BAM!

It's likely that they're both in there. But it's not terribly likely that anybody knows who they are. I mean, once they're both dead they might be largely forgotten. Then again, they might just become legends outside of their own lifetimes. We can't tell at this point.

Both of them are mediocre musical artists, both of them pretty much flash-in-the-pan celebrities... I'm guessing they're in a forgotten corner of the museum, their jars propping up tables of more noteworthy people. tongue

I was born in New Mexico but have lived in Oregon for 20 years. I say I am from Oregon, even though I could just as easily claim I am from New Mexico. I visited Idaho a couple years ago - I do not say I am from Idaho. If you live through the entire century, I think you can say you are from it.

Not quite the same thing there, fella. You're from Oregon because that's your home, and you go from it to other locations. You start your journey in Oregon.

You were from New Mexico until you made Oregon your home. Now you go from Oregon to wherever you're going.

However, your lifespan is one long journey. You begin it in the century you're born in. You don't stop, die, and get reborn in the next century. So you're still from the one you began in, en route to the next one. Living through the century is just like visiting Idaho (from your example). You've been there, but you're still from Oregon (and the century you were born in).
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #423 on: 02-15-2012 20:33 »

Look, if I were to meet a time-traveller or travel through time, I would say I was from 2012 as opposed to the year of my birth, 1990.

Bender lived through every second of several centuries multiple times. Whilst he was essentially just waiting the time out, he still has a completely valid case for being "from" whatever year it may be.

Similarly, Fry may refer to himself as being from the 90s, but then when traveling through time with the crew, I bet you he'd refer to himself as being from 3012 (or whatever year he sets off from).
TheMadCapper

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« Reply #424 on: 02-15-2012 20:58 »

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Look, if I were to meet a time-traveller or travel through time, I would say I was from 2012 as opposed to the year of my birth, 1990.

In the interest of being specific, you should say you were born in 1990 and had traveled from 2012, thus giving them information on when you were from and when you'd traveled from.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #425 on: 02-15-2012 21:20 »

I'd save that for the 2nd date.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #426 on: 02-15-2012 21:27 »

Look, if I were to meet a time-traveller or travel through time, I would say I was from 2012 as opposed to the year of my birth, 1990.

Different again. You stopped your journey to the future, and began a new one from the present to the past. You travelled from 2012. You are from 2012 only in the context of your time travelling journey. When you get back to the (relative) present, you are once more on your journey from the year of your birth to the future.

Context is everything. Especially when talking about time travel.

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Bender lived through every second of several centuries multiple times. Whilst he was essentially just waiting the time out, he still has a completely valid case for being "from" whatever year it may be.

No, he really doesn't. He is from the thirtieth century (thankyou TMC/Cinimod). He has travelled to mutlipe eras, from the thirty-first. But he is from the thirtieth century for forwards-dependant contexts. His journey began there. For backwards-dependant contexts, he is from the period at which his backwards journey began.

Again, context is everything.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #427 on: 03-11-2012 01:32 »

So...I must admit I skipped this one when it first aired, and heard enough negativity where I never felt the impulse to watch it until just now.

Maybe going several months without new Futurama has made me easy to please, but I actually thought it was pretty good! Very reminiscent of the Leela/blurnsball episode. Not the funniest episode ever, but it had its fair share of laughs. Not the most episode story they've ever told, but certainly nothing offensively bad. I have nothing to complain about.
Scrappylive

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« Reply #428 on: 03-11-2012 02:22 »

That is perhaps because you heard everybody bashing it constantly, so your expectations were lowered enough to where it wasn't as bad as you were expecting it to be.


Very reminiscent of the Leela/blurnsball episode.

Not so. I liked A Leela of Her Own, but this... shifty
hughes

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« Reply #429 on: 03-12-2012 03:39 »

Probably my least favorite episode of of the second run barring the Holiday Spectacular (which I haven't seen in awhile), but it's still not completely terrible. The first act in particular was pretty good, and I also like the very end. The problem for me is that Leela being a fame whore and Bender blackmailing Leela are both decent ideas, but there just wasn't enough room in this episode for both of them. They could've explored an interesting Bender-Leela dynamic in this one, and moved the fame whore thing to some other episode.
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« Reply #430 on: 03-16-2012 21:05 »

The problem for me is that Leela being a fame whore and Bender blackmailing Leela are both decent ideas, but there just wasn't enough room in this episode for both of them. They could've explored an interesting Bender-Leela dynamic in this one, and moved the fame whore thing to some other episode.

^This.
Come to think of of, giving these two ideas more room might have reduced the "kid show" feeling. The episode suffers from sometimes looking too much like a kid show itself, instead of a story ABOUT a kid show.
x.Bianca.x

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« Reply #431 on: 08-23-2012 11:28 »

Not a good episode, but I admit I liked Sally in this big grin
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« Reply #432 on: 08-23-2012 19:38 »

My husband and I think this one is hilarious. We have a 16-month old daughter and so we love that it makes fun of programming aimed at children. I think the two funniest parts are the auto-tuned introduction of the pilot show "Popular Slut Club" and the song about "If it's alive, don't lick it." I'm pretty sure we're going to sing that one to our daughter when she's old enough to understand because I'm tired of fishing caterpillars and stinkbugs out of her mouth when we go out to the garden. Maybe it's more funny if you have kids. Since we have the DVD set, I watched the commentary and deleted scenes from the episode. Those shed more light onto where the writers are taking Fry and Leela, which is interesting.
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #433 on: 08-23-2012 19:57 »

Actually, this episode and "Neutopia" have my favorite commentary tracks for all of 6B, mostly because of the appearance of Dawn and Lauren to give the girls a little more say.  They are a riot!  It's usually such a damn sausage fest in those commentaries, with only Claudia Katz, as she doesn't speak up as much.  Now if we could get Katey Sagal to do a commentary, I think my heart would melt.
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