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SpaceMaN

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« on: 07-21-2011 19:04 »

To me it's still In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela.  I haven't re-watched it except for the commentary.  I liked Zapp as a bit player, once every 10 episodes or so, but as a main player I can't stand him.  Too pathetic.  Of the 85 episodes I've seen, I'd only call a handful "bad," and I'll still watch all but 2 of them.
Gorky

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« Reply #1 on: 07-21-2011 19:06 »

Shit, SpaceMaN, I was just about to open a new worst episode thread. You evil metal man! Or something. Though, out of curiosity, what's the second episode you won't watch again, besides "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela"?

I still think "Proposition Infinity" has been my least favorite episode of season six so far. And that includes the Holiday Spectacular. I just find it mostly unfunny (with a few exceptions), a bit too heavy-handed, and annoyingly cavalier in how it deals with Amy and Kif's relationship. I wouldn't go so far as to say PI is the worst episode ever (that distinction belongs to "Where the Buggalo Roam," always and forever), but it has certainly been the least enjoyable one of the new production run for me.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #2 on: 07-21-2011 19:06 »

Oh has the worst episode thread been restarted?   laff  For me the worst episode is Duh Vinchi Code.  Didn't make me laugh once. 
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« Reply #3 on: 07-21-2011 19:07 »

Space Pilot 3000 was pretty awful. The series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future. At least they threw in a retcon to explain why this occurred several seasons later.

No, I won't. Bad Xanfor! no no
Gorky

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« Reply #4 on: 07-21-2011 19:09 »

Wow, Xanfor, I used to think you were cool.

And I really like "The Duh-Vinci Code"; it was nice to see them explore the dynamic between Fry and Farnsworth. The only part I found irksome was Fry repeatedly confusing Leonardo da Vinci with Leonardo DiCaprio. I get that he's stupid, but no one needs three lame-ass pop culture references that are essentially the same "joke" in one seven-minute act.
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« Reply #5 on: 07-21-2011 19:15 »

Wow, Xanfor, I used to think you were cool.

That's your problem, not mine. tongue
SpaceMaN

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« Reply #6 on: 07-21-2011 19:23 »

I don't watch Holiday Spectacular either, though I don't own the DVD's yet.  Maybe a re-watch will be called for at some point, and I'll trudge through it.  I just remember the first time I watched IAGDL (when it aired) the whole time I was thinking, "Man, this episode is bad."  I'm sure there are decent jokes in there, but I'm not suffering through the entire episode for that.  The first time I saw HS (on Netflix) I remember thinking, "Ooh, another Anthology of Interest set-up."  After loving the first 2 AoI's, I was sadly, horribly, stupendously disappointed.  

I agree with you on the Fry/Farnsworth dynamic, and the lame DiCaprio thing, and I also like "The Duh-Vinci Code," not a favorite, but not bad.  Bye, Animatronio!

My favorite of the new season is "A Clockwork Origin."  The last line of Bender's almost makes the whole episode #1 on my list.  Plot to finish, I think that episode is hilarious.  In fact, I'm going to watch it right now.
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« Reply #7 on: 07-21-2011 20:23 »

Wow, Xanfor, I used to think you were cool.

And I really like "The Duh-Vinci Code"; it was nice to see them explore the dynamic between Fry and Farnsworth.

Most indeededly!
lilkitten29

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« Reply #8 on: 07-21-2011 20:43 »

I'm going to be honest.....I've never seen Holiday Spectacular. That's the only Futurama episode that I didn't watch!
coffeeBot

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« Reply #9 on: 07-21-2011 20:58 »

lilkitten, I actually hadn't seen it until all the episodes came out on Netflix. Honestly, I didn't even know that it had aired until I saw everyone complaining about it on here. Everyone hated it, so naturally, I watched it out of morbid curiosity.

It IS pretty bad, but I still hate Cryonic Woman and The Honking more.
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« Reply #10 on: 07-21-2011 21:17 »

I'm going to be honest.....I've never seen Holiday Spectacular. That's the only Futurama episode that I didn't watch!

You haven't been damaged then, you are still pure, lilkitten29 smile...
totalnerduk

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« Reply #11 on: 07-21-2011 22:02 »

It IS pretty bad, but I still hate Cryonic Woman

Don't say that too loudly... you'll turn this thread into a battleground!
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« Reply #12 on: 07-21-2011 22:14 »

The problem with The Cryonic Woman is the ending...

Ooops...
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« Reply #13 on: 07-21-2011 22:44 »

Ghost In The... I mean The Futurama Holiday Spectacular!
DotheBartman

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« Reply #14 on: 07-22-2011 01:02 »
« Last Edit on: 07-22-2011 01:07 »

"Three Hundred Big Boys" is by far the worst. It's basically a failed version of the "22 Short Films" episode of The Simpsons, with the major disadvantage that Futurama simply has fewer characters and even then the episode completely wastes them. Where was Calculon? Morbo? Mom and her three sons? Gertie? Some of these characters appeared, but they weren't given "stories" so that the episode could instead focus on the daily, mundane lives of the main characters that the show already focuses on anyway. As it turns out, when you're accustomed to seeing these characters get into space battles and chases with giant slugs, it isn't really very interesting to see them on a more "normal" day, especially when it gives us nothing about them that we don't already know (the Simpsons episode was great because we never really got to see, say, Dr. Nick, or Apu, or the Bumble Man, or Superintendent Chalmers when the Simpsons weren't around them). Not to mention, while Fry's story is pretty decent, for the most part the whole episode is just chock full of terrible jokes - the "barfing whale" has to be the worst joke in Futurama history (Roseanne's cameo would be second), and believe me, I'm in no way inherently against jokes about barfing whales.

"A Pharaoh to Remember" is close. As despicable as Bender often is, we can at least sort of root for him in spite of ourselves, but his cruelty in that episode goes too far and is too sustained, especially toward his friends, and it's simply too much to ask that we sympathize with his plight of wanting to be remembered when the whole plot is based around him enslaving an entire planet to further his goal. It wasn't balanced enough and he gets no payback for his cruelty, so it's way, way too much. That said, the episode has a few really good laughs ("Read us things!" "We're dumb!") and thus is still better than 300 Big Boys.

"Holiday Spectacular" might be bottom ten or so but it really isn't that bad. Aside from the two I've mentioned, there aren't really any other episodes of Futurama that I don't enjoy repeat viewings of.
coffeeBot

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« Reply #15 on: 07-22-2011 01:07 »

"Three Hundred Big Boys" is by far the worst. ... Not to mention, while Fry's story is pretty decent, for the most part the whole episode is just chock full of terrible jokes - the "barfing whale" has to be the worst joke in Futurama history (Roseane's cameo would be second), and believe me, I'm in no way inherently against jokes about barfing whales.

I always considered it kind of "meh"- I really liked Fry's story because it reminds me of myself (see the username), and I love the "I'm a whale biologist!" joke. But otherwise, the episode is pretty bad.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #16 on: 07-22-2011 01:08 »
« Last Edit on: 07-22-2011 01:10 by SpaceGoldfishfromWazn »

Yeah, I really hate episodes that make Bender's cruelty too much to be believed.  I mean he's always abused his friends (from sticking pictures of Fry naked on the internet to stealing Amy's jewelry) but episodes like Ghost in the Machines and Pharoah just make you wonder why anyone likes him.  Plus they already used the joke in Pharoah's title for a much funnier episode (Flight to Remember.)

And while I really like Roseanne, her cameo was absolutely awful.  It's not her fault though, there was absolutely no way she could have worked with the cringeworthy dialogue she was given.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #17 on: 07-22-2011 01:43 »

I find Ghost in the Machines to be fine within its context; Bender actually has a justifiable (I mean, by Bender standards) reason for his anger and actions towards Fry, since Fry admitted to valuing human life more than robot life, did little to prevent Bender's death, and then his own death is (via the Robot Devil) the only way for Bender to come back to life. And even then, although Bender acts quite selfishly, he also realizes the error of his ways and spends the rest of the episode trying to right his wrong.

I mean, Bender is selfish and often pretty terrible even to his friends. I feel like I can forgive a lot in him, and even the things he does in "Pharaoh" are I think at least individually within the realm of what I can accept from his character. The problem isn't even the actions as much as the presentation; the whole 22 minutes is basically just Bender being mean and cruel, and then it ends with the episode asking us (if half-jokingly) to feel for his plight in not being remembered as he wanted to be. Had he at least (sort of) learned some sort of lesson temporarily, or the episode had a bit more to it than his constant cruelty, it wouldn't have been nearly so bad.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #18 on: 07-22-2011 02:44 »


And while I really like Roseanne, her cameo was absolutely awful.  It's not her fault though, there was absolutely no way she could have worked with the cringeworthy dialogue she was given.

I guess the reason I enjoyed Roseanne's cameo was 'cause I hate her.
UnrealLegend

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« Reply #19 on: 07-22-2011 04:11 »

The Holiday Spectacular was horrible. And I mean real horrible.
I'm also not a real fan of "Fear of a Bot Planet" or "A Leela of Her Own" or "Neutopia".
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #20 on: 07-22-2011 04:50 »


And while I really like Roseanne, her cameo was absolutely awful.  It's not her fault though, there was absolutely no way she could have worked with the cringeworthy dialogue she was given.

I guess the reason I enjoyed Roseanne's cameo was 'cause I hate her.

In Britain we have Jo Brand, who is a lot cooler.  : )
totalnerduk

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« Reply #21 on: 07-22-2011 05:00 »

Jo Brand is marginally cooler at best. Enjoyed her as a guest on QI though.
SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #22 on: 07-22-2011 05:02 »

Jo Brand is marginally cooler at best. Enjoyed her as a guest on QI though.

We will have to agree to disagree.   Though I should have realized you would know her from your user name.  Plus Jo Brand signed my copy of her autobiography which makes her cooler then Roseanne.  The fact that I have never met Roseanne, nor even know if she has an autobiography will not stop me holding it against her.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #23 on: 07-22-2011 05:04 »

The worst episode ever was definitely The Frying Game. A screaming worm? The whole episode was a reality show? Cmoooooon.
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« Reply #24 on: 07-22-2011 05:34 »

Uhh... Three Hundred Big Boys was really good. Really, really good.

A Pharaoh to Remember? Also hilarious. The funeral scene is one of my favorite futurama scenes ever. It's so over-the-top that you know everything will end up back to normal. Bender's just annoyed with society for not making him out to be important. But in Ghost in the Machines... he personally betrays Fry, immediately ready to kill him. It's like everything that they worked for in their relationship was immediately squandered away due to poor writing.

Hmm... even after watching a couple of not-so-great old episodes again, the worst episode is still IAGDL.
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« Reply #25 on: 07-22-2011 05:36 »

Holiday Spectacular is intentionally bad, making it the series' most drawn-out Star Wars reference.
You Ungrateful Gargoyle!

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« Reply #26 on: 07-22-2011 05:46 »

I'm not a big fan of A Pharaoh To Remember, but it has the line "LOUDER and SADDER" in it, which I find myself saying way too often.
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« Reply #27 on: 07-22-2011 19:42 »
« Last Edit on: 07-22-2011 19:44 »

The worst episode ever was definitely The Frying Game. A screaming worm? The whole episode was a reality show? Cmoooooon.

Umm..first I thought WTF is that? how did I miss an episode?! Then I realized you were talking about a completely different show. So, why did you post that? Perhaps to confuse silly people like me....

I've already shared my list of horrible episodes. Unfortunately though, I might have to add Yo Leela Leela to that list. It really wasn't THAT bad, but I think what makes me so angry is that Leela is my favourite character, and when they do an episode about her they always ruin her character. I feel like it's not an accurate picture of who she is. She is so much smarter, nicer, funnier, and bad ass than episodes like A Leela of Her Own and Yo Leela Leela portray.

I'm going to be honest.....I've never seen Holiday Spectacular. That's the only Futurama episode that I didn't watch!
Consider yourself lucky.
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #28 on: 07-22-2011 20:25 »

Yo Leela Leela.

there can be no other.

NO OTHER!!!
DannyJC13

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« Reply #29 on: 07-22-2011 20:27 »

Yo Leela Leela.

there can be no other.

NO OTHER!!!

What about TFHS?
SonicPanther

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« Reply #30 on: 07-22-2011 20:29 »

As much as I hate the Holiday Spectacular, I'd still call The Cryonic Woman the worst episode. Holiday Spectacular was incredibly unfunnny, but The Cryonic Woman actually makes me angry. Michelle is a horrible antagonist - I hate her, but I don't love to hate her, and I never found her funny. I just want to punch her in the face.
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #31 on: 07-22-2011 20:39 »

Yo Leela Leela.

there can be no other.

NO OTHER!!!

What about TFHS?

3rd worst.
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #32 on: 07-22-2011 20:40 »

As much as I hate the Holiday Spectacular, I'd still call The Cryonic Woman the worst episode. Holiday Spectacular was incredibly unfunnny, but The Cryonic Woman actually makes me angry. Michelle is a horrible antagonist - I hate her, but I don't love to hate her, and I never found her funny. I just want to punch her in the face.

based on your opinions, my opinion is that you are a moron.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #33 on: 07-22-2011 20:41 »

3rd worst.

2nd?
totalnerduk

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« Reply #34 on: 07-22-2011 20:55 »

As much as I hate the Holiday Spectacular, I'd still call The Cryonic Woman the worst episode. Holiday Spectacular was incredibly unfunnny, but The Cryonic Woman actually makes me angry. Michelle is a horrible antagonist - I hate her, but I don't love to hate her, and I never found her funny. I just want to punch her in the face.

I'd love to agree, but I do think that TCW has a redeeming sequence or two. Overall though, I'd say this is a solid assessment of TCW, and I agree completely with your feelings regarding Michelle. She's not just a horrible character, she's a horrible character. If you can spot the difference. tongue laff

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« Reply #35 on: 07-22-2011 21:27 »

Why must you analyse everything with your relentless logic?
totalnerduk

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« Reply #36 on: 07-22-2011 22:00 »

Because I want to be a robot when I grow up.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #37 on: 07-22-2011 22:09 »

based on your opinions, my opinion is that you are a moron.
Second!
SonicPanther

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« Reply #38 on: 07-22-2011 22:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-22-2011 22:56 »

As much as I hate the Holiday Spectacular, I'd still call The Cryonic Woman the worst episode. Holiday Spectacular was incredibly unfunnny, but The Cryonic Woman actually makes me angry. Michelle is a horrible antagonist - I hate her, but I don't love to hate her, and I never found her funny. I just want to punch her in the face.
I'd love to agree, but I do think that TCW has a redeeming sequence or two. Overall though, I'd say this is a solid assessment of TCW, and I agree completely with your feelings regarding Michelle. She's not just a horrible character, she's a horrible character. If you can spot the difference. tongue laff


It did have its moments. But in a way that just helped put a bad taste in my mouth. Dammit, episode, your first act was funny. I wanted to like you! Why must you do these things to me!

(And it's nice to know I'm a moron because I dislike a commonly disliked episode?)

Edit: the real reason I'm a moron is that I can't format.

SpaceGoldfish fromWazn

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« Reply #39 on: 07-23-2011 00:54 »

As much as I hate the Holiday Spectacular, I'd still call The Cryonic Woman the worst episode. Holiday Spectacular was incredibly unfunnny, but The Cryonic Woman actually makes me angry. Michelle is a horrible antagonist - I hate her, but I don't love to hate her, and I never found her funny. I just want to punch her in the face.

I'd love to agree, but I do think that TCW has a redeeming sequence or two. Overall though, I'd say this is a solid assessment of TCW, and I agree completely with your feelings regarding Michelle. She's not just a horrible character, she's a horrible character. If you can spot the difference. tongue laff



That's what I've been saying!   Michelle has a horrible character (personality) but she's not a horrible character.  She would be a bad character if she was meant to be funny/sympathetic/likeable, but she is not meant to be of those things.   She's meant to be an emotionally abusive, selfish, hypocritical, vindictive shrew who can't stand the thought of anyone else being happy when she isn't.  She's like Judith from 2 and a Half Men in that respect (don't start, I do like that show).   You are supposed to hate her.  

Now Naru from Love Hina is a bad character.  We are supposed to like her, hope she ends up falling in love with the main character, and think its adorable when she punches him in the balls or literally breaks his arm over a misunderstanding or simply not getting her way.  I hated her so much I just couldn't get into the manga.

The only problem I have with Michelle is that she gets no karmic punishment for the absolutely awful way she's treated Fry.  
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