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David A

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« Reply #40 on: 07-15-2011 07:46 »

I too wasn't a fan of the bleeped-out cursing...I think it's pretty stale at this point, after being done to death on other shows.

Yeah, if I want that I can just watch Family Guy/South Park/every other animated sitcom lately.  Futurama can do better than that.

Other than that, I thought it was a pretty good episode.

Bell robot

Belle. (You a Yankee?) Of course, they played on the Bell/Belle homophone.

Actually, I'm pretty sure her name was Bella.
SorynArkayn

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« Reply #41 on: 07-15-2011 08:08 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 08:49 »

Finally a new episode that I really enjoyed. Last week's episode was all right, but I thought this episode was much funnier. I loved all the references to The Godfather movies, especially the trial. I especially loved the crime Bender invented: "burgalarsonlarsony." laff Even though its name is kinda self-explanatory, I wanted to hear more about it because it sounds so funny.

I was worried that Clamps might grow tiresome, but he was a hilarious addition to the crew. I especially liked his rivalry with Zoidberg, and their showdown at the end.

The "twist" at the end was kinda obvious -- but not nearly as hackneyed and unfunny as the ending of "Ghosts in the Machine". The joke about the murdered Moon robot hillbilly just being "an innocent husband and father" and everyone cheering really gave it the Futurama twist it needed.

I gave this episode 8/10. Unlike last week's episode (that I gave 7/10) I don't think that I'm being too generous with my rating of this episode. I laughed so much and thoroughly enjoyed this episode. I can't wait to watch it again!
Ralph Snart

Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #42 on: 07-15-2011 08:44 »

"Leela, now you'll have to look out for Fry."

"Oh Lord."

That was the extent of the humor for me.

Your mileage may vary.
Gopher

Fallback Guy
Space Pope
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« Reply #43 on: 07-15-2011 10:40 »

odd from someone who says fuck 50+ times in the average day to say, but yeah, the bleeping just felt gratuitous and unnecessary. Added nothing. Some of the gags were just tired/overdone (the clamps! Clamps! clamps! Did I mention, clamps?), others were just too obvious to have any humor (the other applicants all "broke"), and the final twist was so painfully obvious it detracted from the entire act that preceded it (they erased bender's memory? No, they didn't, that's just not bender! You're wasting perfectly good screen time telling me things I won't possibly believe, and not even doing it in a funny way! Shame!)

There were some funny moments, but compared to the rest of this half-season so far, this was disappointing.
Dorsal Axe

Bending Unit
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« Reply #44 on: 07-15-2011 11:29 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 11:31 »

Meh, mediocre to average episode for me. The pacing was way off, and I really hated the swearing. I get why they did it, but I simply just didn't find it funny at all (and found it totally jarring when Zoidberg did it). Also, Clamps cannot carry an episode. Period.

That being said, I liked the wedding scene, and the moon segment had me lol'ing alot. Loved everything about it except for Zoidberg swearing. The ending was good. I'm disappointed that the Space Pope's first speaking appearance involved no funny lines whatsoever though. frown
bendingunit6

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« Reply #45 on: 07-15-2011 11:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-16-2011 14:30 »

Good enough for me. Not as good compared to the previous two weeks' episodes, but there are a good number of bits in there which got a laugh out of me, and I enjoyed the courtroom and moon scenes. There were, however, some jokes I didn't really enjoy (the Billy West joke, for example).

First act didn't feel as rushed as previous episodes, and I didn't see any jokes of the "Obamacare" type, which are both good. However, the swearing didn't really feel necessary for me, especially with Zoidberg. Overall, though not as good as other season six episodes, the episode's certainly not "worst episode" horrible, and was entertaining enough for me.

I originally gave this a 6.5 out of 10, but I enjoyed it much more after watching it the second time, and my rating has since improved to a 7.5 / 10.
winna

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« Reply #46 on: 07-15-2011 14:07 »

I too wasn't a fan of the bleeped-out cursing...I think it's pretty stale at this point, after being done to death on other shows. But I will accept it as them wanting to "mafia up" the episode. I can forgive it as long as it's not done in other episodes.

I'll agree with most of what FishyJoe has said.  And the whole "It's Zoidberg" bit was awesome.  I enjoyed this episode.

I'll also agree with Gorky that the 'Billy West' joke seemed superfluous, but it didn't ruin anything.  I'd probably rated at a 6 or higher... possibly up to an 8.... if I rated episodes.  I don't.
LorenzoDuke

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« Reply #47 on: 07-15-2011 14:18 »

Too many dumb unfunny jokes. I'm amazed that some people were amused by the Billy West thing. I suppose when there's no 'reality' of the show to be invested in anymore, blatantly breaking it like that doesn't matter too much, but it still didn't make it funny. A character played by Billy West says Billy West is a stupid name. Great stuff?

The amount of callbacks this season is absolutely ludicrous. Shoehorning in characters from past episodes at a rate of about 6 or 7 per show is really tiresome. Still at least Zapp and Scruffy weren't in this one, unlike all 4 previous episodes this run.

The swearing was jarring, but no more jarring than the crude/gross-out stuff earlier in the season. Leela is turning into the Marge Simpson of the show. Just stand their and grunt disapprovingly once in a while.

The baby/umbilical cord 'gag' was another absolute clunker. As was the throw-away iPod reference. Bender 'dying' for the third or fourth time this season...well, who cares really. Its bad fan-fic territory. A cheap quick attempt to make you care about a piss-poor story.

Positives: Bender had a few good lines in the first act, and the new crime bit raised a smile from me. I liked seeing Zoidberg actually have a significant part in an episode, even if he was behaving out of character.

When I sit down to watch a new episode now, I've learned not to expect much so its hard to feel disappointed. Roll on the next episode of 'Season Meh'.

AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #48 on: 07-15-2011 14:31 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 14:44 »

Watched it the 2nd time, more awake. I thought this episode was a weird one. The swearing felt out of place, and only worked the first time Zoidberg did it (It would be interesting to see if the DVD/Blu-Ray release it uncensored, meaning it would probably be the first BBFC 15 rated episode of Futurama in the UK). The first act was probably the best with the wedding, and I liked the callbacks to both The Series Has Landed and A Leela Of Her Own, but felt the hillbilly Bender plot was a waste of time as I could see the twist coming miles away. The jokes were hit and miss (The best ones being JOHN ***KING ZOIDBERG, Billy West, and the Professor looking at the wall) and Bender being Italian was amusing. I still don't get why the entire crew go to deliver packages though. Overall, I'm not sure whether to rate this one a 7 or 8/10 yet. Hmmm... hmpf
Gorky

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« Reply #49 on: 07-15-2011 14:52 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 14:53 »

And the writers are certainly playing up Fry and Bender's bromance this season;

"Bromance"? What, Fry is a robosexual now, is he?

I think the word you're going for here is "friendship."

Nah, it was "bromance," but thanks for the suggestion. I'm not trying to be callous or anything, but both "Ghost in the Machines" and this episode made Fry and Bender's friendship such a focal point that I felt I was being smothered by the notion that Bender and Fry are best friends and love each other and yadda yadda yadda. I have no problems with seeing their friendship get some play (and in fact find Bender's attachment to Fry one of his few redeeming qualities), but it's just getting old, fast. Hence the semi-derogatory, tongue-in-cheek term.  

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Well, all three of those things were tied together.

Fair enough, but I guess I just didn't think they were convincingly tied together. Clamps didn't even need to form a specific bond with Fry, because the whole damn PE crew went on the mission to the moon and all seemed convinced that Billy was Bender. It would have made more sense to play up the Zoidberg/Clamps rivalry and leave the Fry/Bender/Clamps stuff alone. The episode would have had the same outcome, really.

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Belle. (You a Yankee?) Of course, they played on the Bell/Belle homophone.

Late night typos. You'll forgive me...though it looks like my entire review was unforgivable to you. tongue

To be honest though, the episode's biggest flaw was just how unfunny it was. It had a handful of great gags, but the ratio was far lower than I'm used to for Futurama. Much of it felt like it was trying too hard... sort of like a new writer who was a fan of the show had come aboard and was trying desperately to write in someone else's voice... which I think is what actually happened. I won't be looking forwards to any future Eric Rogers episodes.

In fairness, Eric Rogers has written the majority of the stories for the comics, and though the comics are nowhere near as great as the TV shows in terms of humor or storytelling, I expected this episode to be funnier than it was. I wouldn't write Eric Rogers off just yet; I think, given a better premise, he could write a good episode. This premise was just uninspired, and its execution was all over the place. There were some good jokes, and I did enjoy that final twist of Bender's "disguise" consisting of a fake mustache and a lousy Italian accent, and moving a block down the street. There may be hope for this guy yet.
soylentOrange

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« Reply #50 on: 07-15-2011 15:56 »

didn't do that much for me.  Not bad, but not great.  The swearing seemed totally out of place though.  I really hope that was a one-time thing.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #51 on: 07-15-2011 16:09 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 16:10 »

I hope so as well. It felt like it was just to "mafia up" the episode (as FishyJoe put it). Also remember that this episode was produced before every other one we've seen thus far this half-season, so the lack of fucks there is a good sign.


The baby/umbilical cord 'gag' was another absolute clunker. As was the throw-away iPod reference.
The baby gag was really, really lame. I was so confused by it. Why was somebody having a baby in PE? How could that umbilical been so long that we couldn't see the mother? It made no sense at all. However, I enjoyed the iPod joke, it was a good throw away joke. Now just think if they went on to elaborate on the iPod; then it's a bad joke.


And the writers are certainly playing up Fry and Bender's bromance this season;

"Bromance"? What, Fry is a robosexual now, is he?

I think the word you're going for here is "friendship."

Nah, it was "bromance," but thanks for the suggestion. I'm not trying to be callous or anything, but both "Ghost in the Machines" and this episode made Fry and Bender's friendship such a focal point that I felt I was being smothered by the notion that Bender and Fry are best friends and love each other and yadda yadda yadda. I have no problems with seeing their friendship get some play (and in fact find Bender's attachment to Fry one of his few redeeming qualities), but it's just getting old, fast. Hence the semi-derogatory, tongue-in-cheek term.
I'm still pushing for people to recognize Scruffy and Fry as a bromance!

In fairness, Eric Rogers has written the majority of the stories for the comics, and though the comics are nowhere near as great as the TV shows in terms of humor or storytelling, I expected this episode to be funnier than it was. I wouldn't write Eric Rogers off just yet; I think, given a better premise, he could write a good episode. This premise was just uninspired, and its execution was all over the place. There were some good jokes, and I did enjoy that final twist of Bender's "disguise" consisting of a fake mustache and a lousy Italian accent, and moving a block down the street. There may be hope for this guy yet.
Now that I think about it, there were a lot of more Comics-like devices used in this episode, such as so many minor characters showing up throughout. However, I'm chalking that up with this episode more with the director than the writer. Example: the wedding and job interview had a good number of minor characters returning (the hair robot, iZac, Andrew, plus there was a buggalo on the Moon) that didn't necessarily need to be there. The only returning characters with lines/referenced in lines who were throw-away were Hedonismbot, Robot Devil, and Andrew. Hedonismbot and Andrew could've been played by a randomly generated robot, while the Robot Devil could've just not been referenced (Bender could've been excited just to see Calculon). While on that, I rather liked Fanny's appearance, since it was part of a decent joke (Bender also hitting on fembots).

At the same that I'm bashing the director's/animators' choice with some of the background characters, I have to say the scenes with the Moon duel were good, and I liked the angle used for Bella's appearance there.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #52 on: 07-15-2011 16:16 »

The baby/umbilical cord 'gag' was another absolute clunker. As was the throw-away iPod reference.
The baby gag was really, really lame. I was so confused by it. Why was somebody having a baby in PE? How could that umbilical been so long that we couldn't see the mother? It made no sense at all. However, I enjoyed the iPod joke, it was a good throw away joke. Now just think if they went on to elaborate on the iPod; then it's a bad joke.

I will say that I was pleased by the lack of lame pop culture references in this episode (the iPod joke wasn't bad; it wasn't hilarious, but it was decent). Now, if only the writers could strip episodes that are actually enjoyable of their lame pop culture references, we'd be good to go. (Of course, "Law and Oracle" was a great episode that was light on conspicuous and stupid pop culture references, so that's a good sign.)

And speaking of "Law and Oracle": maybe that was just a bathroom baby. tongue

Now that I think about it, there were a lot of more Comics-like devices used in this episode, such as so many minor characters showing up throughout. However, I'm chalking that up with this episode more with the director than the writer. Example: the wedding and job interview had a good number of minor characters returning (the hair robot, iZac, Andrew, plus there was a buggalo on the Moon) that didn't necessarily need to be there. The only returning characters with lines/referenced in lines who were throw-away were Hedonismbot, Robot Devil, and Andrew. Hedonismbot and Andrew could've been played by a randomly generated robot, while the Robot Devil could've just not been referenced (Bender could've been excited just to see Calculon). While on that, I rather liked Fanny's appearance, since it was part of a decent joke (Bender also hitting on fembots).

I did think that a lot of the jokes were too reminiscent of things we've seen before in the series, which is a staple of the comics (where, I guess, the Bongo people are trying to convince us that, yes, the comics and the show can exist in the same fictional universe if only we are given enough callbacks and out-of-the-blue character cameos). I don't think all of this episode's failings can be attributed to Eric Rogers's relative unfamiliarity with writing for the show as opposed to the comics, but it would certainly explain some of them.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #53 on: 07-15-2011 16:44 »

I'm disappointed that the Space Pope's first speaking appearance involved no funny lines whatsoever though. frown
I forgot about this. I'm incredibly disappointed. The whole "brought to you buy the Space Pope" thing is one of the hardest times I've ever laughed at Futurama and a great deal of it was down to the bizarre voice they used. To go from that to a simple Italian accent was just a bit... I mean, now that I think about it, I'm a bit annoyed that he's just the Pope at the Vatican on Earth as revealed in The Duh-Vinci Code rather than part of some sort of space-Vatican but still... I hoped for a more interesting, funny characterisation if we ever saw him properly.
Wilyfish

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« Reply #54 on: 07-15-2011 16:47 »

Of course, this could never get a perfect score because it broke the Scruffy combo  cry

However, I did enjoy Bella was a potential new character.

I thought the episode was interesting and funny, and the rivalry between Clamps and Zoidberg was clever, but nothing seemed very fresh. I've seen Bender die enough times this season, we've seen the Moon enough, we've seen the Robot Mafia enough.

Clamps didn't make new ground. This episode was like one of the first episodes to be named for this season run, and despite that, I don't really know more about Clamps now than I did before. This really should've been an opportunity to actually give Clamps some character instead of him just being a "mafia guy who likes clamping." I was expecting Clamps to have some sort of arc in this episode. Ironically instead, the only thing I "learn" is that the Donbot has another daughter named Bella.

I felt the third Act was the worst. I think it's okay to make it so they got the wrong Bender, but if that's the case, I expect some sort of character development instead, which never happened. Since Robowest wasn't Bender, the entire scene on the moon meant, well, nothing at all since there was no character development either. So it felt cheap.

Maybe I'm stressing too hard that there was no character development, but when you have an episode featuring Clamps featured, I should feel I know more about him. All Clamps did was try to kill Bender, and that's all I got from the character. Joey Mousepad could have easily substituted in for Clamps and the overall story wouldn't have changed. When I recognize that, the story just sinks for me.
Spacedal11

Space Pope
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« Reply #55 on: 07-15-2011 17:21 »

I liked Billy the robot, I actually wasn't trying to figure out if it was Bender or not so the twist actually got me albeit on a 'well I know Bender isn't really dead' level. I liked the third act the best, though this entire episode was average in my opinion. I don't like Clamps, he is just a one-joke character. I much prefer Joey Mousepad. And at the risk of sounding like a shipper, I want to see something happen between Fry and Leela for god's sake. She hasn't been doing anything lately in these past few episodes. And as much as I love the Fry/Bender bromance, I want a different story. It's been the same thing for the past few episodes. Not that that's bad but let's mix it up here.
DannyJC13

DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #56 on: 07-15-2011 17:30 »

Great ep, not the best, but not as bad as everyone is making it out to be.

8/10
Whatawut

Bending Unit
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« Reply #57 on: 07-15-2011 17:30 »

It's nice to see an episode that doesn't exploit Scruffy's previously mysterious personality.  Overall, the episode was alright imo. Some jokes made me laugh (the pizza conversation, Billy's "If you can find it, you can keep it.", Fry's "Are you sure you don't want to kill all humans?", and Bender's promiscuous behavior at the wedding), others not so much (the Professor looking the wrong way, Fry hanging out with Francis, umbilical cord snipping, and jury tampering).

Personally, I found the cursing enjoyable. Believe me, I appreciate the "class" that Futurama has over its rivals, which is exactly why I liked the cursing in this episode. Like Josh said, it was pleasantly out-of-character (for both Zoidberg and the show itself). I think Clamps' cursing is what caused Zoidberg to start cursing as a means of showing he's just as badass and awesome as Clamps, which is what led to crazy, aggressive Zoidberg at the end. And c'mon, it was great seeing Bender back down to Zoidberg for once.

As for Clamps, I actually liked him a lot before this episode; imo, he was used sparingly and to just the right amount in previous episodes. But here, he was overdone. He was too much of a jerk, and it's like he didn't even try to blend in with the crew by acting nice or professional.

One last note: I at first was bothered by the fact that Fry didn't recognize Clamps (I can't remember if the other crew members have seen him before in one of the movies). But then I remembered this type of forgetfulness is common throughout the show. Zapp sort of "forgets" Fry in A Flight to Remember, and Leela forgets Scruffy a thousand times. It's actually funny how the characters in the show forget each other so often, so in the end, this didn't bother me.

Gave it a 6/10

(And yeah, I found the Billy West joke overdrawn. Just leave it at, "My name's Billy West.")
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #58 on: 07-15-2011 17:37 »

I'm disappointed that the Space Pope's first speaking appearance involved no funny lines whatsoever though. frown
I forgot about this. I'm incredibly disappointed. The whole "brought to you buy the Space Pope" thing is one of the hardest times I've ever laughed at Futurama and a great deal of it was down to the bizarre voice they used. To go from that to a simple Italian accent was just a bit... I mean, now that I think about it, I'm a bit annoyed that he's just the Pope at the Vatican on Earth as revealed in The Duh-Vinci Code rather than part of some sort of space-Vatican but still... I hoped for a more interesting, funny characterisation if we ever saw him properly.
I was upset that he just spoke in an Italian accent, yes. However, all The Duh Vinci Code revealed was that the Space Pope's seat is at the Vatican, not whether the Church extends past Earth. I mean, the Roman Catholic Church has expanded a lot since its founding (especially in Central and South America) and it hasn't moved its seat to accommodate the expansion.


Unrelated to the quoted post, but if I hear one more person say "in the past few episodes" Imma slap some people. Again, this episode isn't adjacent to any of the episodes we've seen thus far. There are no combos to be broken and no trends to be deduced with this episode. You must think of all of this from a production standpoint rather than a broadcast. For all you know, Comedy Central is frontloading all of the episodes with [insert characteristic/gag/plot point here] for some odd reason. Or it's all just purely random and the episodes that aren't characterized thusly are yet to be aired. You might find yourself in a few episodes saying, "Geez, will they stop all of this Fry/Leela shipping," or, "Where the hell has Scruffy been?!?!1/!?1/?2"
DannyJC13

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« Reply #59 on: 07-15-2011 17:44 »

Regarding the swearing and offensive language and stuff from previous Season 6 eps (such as penis and whatnot), I'm surprised Season 6A has made it onto Sky One at such an early time, lots of children like to watch the Simpsons and Futurama around that time. hmpf
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #60 on: 07-15-2011 17:54 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 17:55 »

Spanish Fry's plot was about Fry's penis. And that was aired in 2003 originally. 8 years later, with TV loosening up a little bit, a penis joke here and there is nothing compared to how riské Spanish was.

And, with swearing, using words stronger than hell or damn is just is just out of character for the show. That's my only complaint in regards to that.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #61 on: 07-15-2011 17:55 »

Spanish Fry's plot was about Fry's penis. And that was aired in 2003 originally. 8 years later, with TV loosening up a little bit, a penis joke here and there is nothing compared to how riské Spanish was.

True, infact, I think it'll be fine at that time. No rhyme intended.
JBERGES

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« Reply #62 on: 07-15-2011 18:01 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 18:07 »

For all you know, Comedy Central is frontloading all of the episodes with [insert characteristic/gag/plot point here] for some odd reason
Watching this episode last night, I actually mentioned that I hoped Comedy Central was front-loading Bender episodes.  I do hope that's the case, because otherwise... what's with all the Bender?!

Also, I'm siding with FishyJoe and SP on this one.  I found this to be by far the funniest episode of the new 1/2 season.  I'll take a so-so concept followed through with hilarity over a good concept that was mishandled (Benderama).  

Obviously, arguing over what's funny and what's not is pointless, and, iunno, maybe I was just in the mood to laugh last night, but most of the jokes hit for me. "I'm scared... and great at sex" is destined to be quoted.
Curious Gorge

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« Reply #63 on: 07-15-2011 18:01 »

People really didn't like this one? I thought it was great. Sure it's not up there with the likes of TLPJF and other numerous classics from past seasons but it was a solid episode. Certainly better than Neutopia and Benderama (which I enjoyed just for the record). Perhaps my view is somewhat skewered because I find anything relating to old school noir detectives utterly enchanting.

To be honest, there hasn't been an episode this run that has disappointed me yet which is in stark contrast to the last run. After Rebirth there was a noticable drop in quality right up until Lethal Inspection but that definitely hasn't been the case so far this season.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #64 on: 07-15-2011 18:08 »

What can  say about this episode apart from

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRaoHi_xcWk&feature=related

The only part that made me chuckle a little was Bender's gangster costume but that may be due to recently rewatching The Sopranos, other that that I did not laugh at all during the episode.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #65 on: 07-15-2011 18:08 »

Too many dumb unfunny jokes. I'm amazed that some people were amused by the Billy West thing.

This...
 
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When I sit down to watch a new episode now, I've learned not to expect much so its hard to feel disappointed. Roll on the next episode of 'Season Meh'.
And this I totally agree with.
They should pretty much call the boxset "Season Meh". As a bonus it would help with the whole 'is this volume 5, 6 or 7?' thing.
Anyway that's how I'll refer to it from now on, thanks for the nickname LorenzoDuke
 
As for this episode, meh sums it up perfectly. Shoddy premise, riddled with plot holes and character errors. 
DannyJC13

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« Reply #66 on: 07-15-2011 19:08 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 19:11 »

Man, Futurama was cancelled like twice, it finally comes back, and guess what? You still don't appreciate it. You call yourselves fans? Fuck you.

And get rid of the fucking nostalgia goggles. Futurama can't keep that 'classic' feel ALL the time, hell, I don't think any show can. So if you don't like it, turn off the TV and get the fuck off of PEEL.
Whatawut

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« Reply #67 on: 07-15-2011 19:29 »

LorenzoDuke

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« Reply #68 on: 07-15-2011 19:41 »

Man, Futurama was cancelled like twice, it finally comes back, and guess what? You still don't appreciate it. You call yourselves fans? Fuck you.

So if you don't like it, turn off the TV and get the fuck off of PEEL.

*sigh*

I appreciated and loved my grandmother too. That doesn't mean that if someone digs up what's left of her after 7 years, whacks her with the shovel and props her up in the corner of my living room I have to pretend she doesn't stink.

Is that a moderator icon next to your name? Thought not. If you can't handle opinions on the internet without throwing a tantrum and shouting 'fuck you', perhaps you're the one who needs to take a break, you silly little man.



Gorky

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« Reply #69 on: 07-15-2011 19:43 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 19:44 »

Man, Futurama was cancelled like twice, it finally comes back, and guess what? You still don't appreciate it. You call yourselves fans? Fuck you.

And get rid of the fucking nostalgia goggles. Futurama can't keep that 'classic' feel ALL the time, hell, I don't think any show can. So if you don't like it, turn off the TV and get the fuck off of PEEL.

I appreciate where you're coming from, Danny, but just for the record: Yelling at people for hating the new episodes is just as obnoxious as yelling at people for liking the new episodes. I agree that a lot of people are letting their nostalgia goggles or whatever too greatly impact their opinion of the new episodes--but, still, I think this one was just out-and-out bad. Stick it next to a clunker from the original run, and it's still bad. Stick it next to a clunker from 6A and it's still bad. That's just my opinion, of course, but that's the point: trying to trash talk people out of their opinions on these episodes is totally futile.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #70 on: 07-15-2011 19:46 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 21:46 »

* Somebody says anything negative about a new episode, not even mentioning old episodes or "classic feel" in the critique.

* Danny responds saying, "Zomg nostalgia goggles! Y u no appreciate Futurama?!" and demands they get off his internet




For all you know, Comedy Central is frontloading all of the episodes with [insert characteristic/gag/plot point here] for some odd reason
Watching this episode last night, I actually mentioned that I hoped Comedy Central was front-loading Bender episodes.  I do hope that's the case, because otherwise... what's with all the Bender?!

Also, I'm siding with FishyJoe and SP on this one.  I found this to be by far the funniest episode of the new 1/2 season.  I'll take a so-so concept followed through with hilarity over a good concept that was mishandled (Benderama).  

Obviously, arguing over what's funny and what's not is pointless, and, iunno, maybe I was just in the mood to laugh last night, but most of the jokes hit for me. "I'm scared... and great at sex" is destined to be quoted.
I forgot about that line! I'll have to insert it into my reference vocabulary...

And I thought it was a pretty decent episode, much better than the usual crop from last broadcast season. And if CC's front loading the Bender episodes (which usually aren't the greatest), then perhaps we have some gems yet to come...
Curious Gorge

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« Reply #71 on: 07-15-2011 19:51 »

Eh, people can like or dislike whatever the hell they want. As long as I'm still enjoying Futurama then all is well with me.

Granted, there have been noticeable episodes in the past season that don't quite have that Futurama feel. They've still been entertaining enough (apart from that awful holiday special which I can only explain away by assuming it's a homage to it's Star Wars equivilant) but they still didn't quite sit right.

However, from Lethal Inspection onwards the hit rate increased exponentially and, aside from the odd hiccup, it's continued into this season.

At least in my opinion.

MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #72 on: 07-15-2011 20:20 »

Man, Futurama was cancelled like twice, it finally comes back, and guess what? You still don't appreciate it. You call yourselves fans? Fuck you.

And get rid of the fucking nostalgia goggles. Futurama can't keep that 'classic' feel ALL the time, hell, I don't think any show can. So if you don't like it, turn off the TV and get the fuck off of PEEL.

I will start by saying that I've only watched each epsiode once and for most of the episodes I think this has been enough. I know this will only make everyone here lower their opinion of me but whatever. I like my comedy funny and quotable and I tend to judge TV and movies on these two things. I also compare them to the very highest level of comedy e.g. 90s Simpsons, Arrested Development, Peep Show etc, etc.
For me, 'classic' Futurama was right up there and still is, but this new incarnation is just different. The stories, the characters, the voices...
I helped uncancel it, I thought all 4 movies were very good and I assumed like most of us that getting back to episodic format would be good for the show. I desperately wanted it to recapture it's former glory, but you have to admit that the good jokes are spread thinner and the episode ideas getting more 'wacky'.
I don't believe nostalgia goggles exist, (and I don't really understand the term, old stuff is funny, new stuff not so much...what's nostalgic about that?), But I do believe that a lot of people have the reverse or something (I.e. It's Futurama!!! 9/10 for an episode that i mentioned in my review that I liked bits of!)
So don't tell me to fuck off. I still appreciate it but the focus has shifted from what it was that attracted me to it in the first place. I still watch though and I probably will right up until they cancel it
Gopher

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« Reply #73 on: 07-15-2011 20:33 »

I COULD list things that were good about this episode, but then how would they learn?

Sir, I say No! I have my red pen, and by god, I'm gonna use it!
DannyJC13

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« Reply #74 on: 07-15-2011 20:38 »

From the Nom Worthy Posts thread:

It wasn't just that guy's post, others have been complaining about Futurama's loss of that 'classic' feel over the last few weeks. no no

I didn't target JUST him...
winna

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« Reply #75 on: 07-15-2011 21:19 »

This episode didn't seem to blend well with the previous episodes, and I haven't seen Scruffy in a while.  Also, apparently Bender and Fry are friends, and we learned that Clamps gets irritated

That said, what happened to Classic Futurama?  Did they decide to hire fanfic writers to make New Futurama, so they can wait and bring back Classic Futurama?
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #76 on: 07-15-2011 21:35 »

^ haha sarcasm fail
pluche93

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« Reply #77 on: 07-15-2011 21:43 »

winna have you being watching futurama recently?

Am I the only one who though this episode was great ? when it end, I was like: what already ? but its only been 10 minutes!! well I was wrong

and I totally agree with everything Danny has said previously
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #78 on: 07-15-2011 21:49 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2011 21:54 »

Pluche: read through the thread, you're not alone in thinking the episode was at least good. Also, you may want to go to Professor Frink and buy a sarcasm detector from him. It'll come in handy the next time you encounter a wild winna.


Danny, just because you didn't target "just him" doesn't make what you did any more justified. You asserted that anybody who disagrees with you is not truly a fan and demanded that they all leave PEEL. Regardless of whether or not you specifically targeted the above posters or not, you did target them in an extremely angry manner despite being entirely unprovoked in this thread. I mean, not one person in this thread mentioned that this episode "wasn't like old episodes" or lacked a "classic feel". The only comparison specifically to old episodes made was saying that the episode was like an average Season 2 episode on the last page. In fact, the first mention of anything on par to what you were implying was being said was your own post. Whether inadvertent or not, you mentioning the "everything new is bad" conversation didn't stop it (or prevent it, in this case, since it wasn't even mentioned beforehand) but rather caused it. I'm not even going to recognize its discussion in this thread because (1) we opened a thread specifically to discuss it and it's even stickied and (2) its discussion in previous episode threads has degraded into inanity and ad hominem attacks rather than either worthwhile debate or anything on the topic of the episode.
Gopher

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« Reply #79 on: 07-15-2011 21:52 »

I have an idea! lets forget futurama and just throw rocks at eachother!
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