SorynArkayn
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I believe the Space Pope was actually introduced (if by introduced you mean the first time we see him in person) in the Duh-Vinci Code.
Just sayin'...
If you insist on getting nitpicky, technically the Space Pope's first appearance was in "I Dated A Robot" when he appeared after the propaganda film about humans dating robots. Regardless, my point still stands that the Space Pope was squandered in this episode. Also, I was really disappointed by the Space Pope's voice. It was just a regular impression of how any Pope would speak, instead of a giant talking reptile.
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SorynArkayn
Bending Unit
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Hence this part of my post: (if by introduced you mean the first time we see him in person)
[/quote] Hence... If you insist on getting nitpicky... It's so sad that posters are more interested in nitpicking, such as harping on minor, irrelevant, and arguable "mistakes", instead of writing constructive comments on the point another poster is making about the topic.
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Benderloveer
Delivery Boy
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I absolutely loved that episode. It felt like a classic episode of Futurama for me. I'd rate it 9/10 because of the space pope which is useless and unfunny and for the bleeping, it would have been funnier if they actually cursed using futuristic words. But the best part of the episode is when Clamps destroys all the others robots to be hired at Planet Express, and Hermes said "We'll start with Andrew" That was great!
And i read the others comments: You shouldn't care of the Space pope, it is so unfunny and useless, the episode is good, but you should stop talking about a such character.
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Benderloveer
Delivery Boy
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It's okay to read the Futurama comics. But if someone think they had to be treated as real episodes...
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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It's okay to read the Futurama comics. But if someone think they had to be treated as real episodes...
Sometimes they can reference each other. And stuff. You shut up!
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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Space Pope: I suppose I could agree that the Space Pope's first speaking role was somewhat squandered but it's not like the character is totally ruined by that. He could still make more appearances in more pivotal roles and/or have an episode devoted to the whole idea of the Space-Religion (Space-Catholocism?) that he's pope of.
As far as I'm concerned, he is ruined in that I wouldn't really care if they made an episode about him now. The reason the "brought to you by the Space Pope" bit in I Dated a Robot hit such a chord with my sense of humour was that it was so utterly batshit insane. It was a reasonable gag on its own, which was raised several levels by an insane voice and brilliant comic timing. To go from something so odd and with such great characterisation to something so bland has just killed it for me.
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #253 on: 07-25-2011 19:45 »
« Last Edit on: 07-25-2011 19:47 »
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I agree that the Space Pope was wasted in this ep, in fact in hindsight it was probably one of the reasons I rated this ep so relatively low. I mean, for starters you know there's a problem when a one second or so clip from I Dated A Robot sticks in your memory much more than a proper speaking role which is instantly forgettable. What the hell were they thinking regarding this character? The Space Pope was totally unfunny and had no real personality at all! The character design is about the only thing going for it...
In I Dated A Robot his tiny appearance was hilarious, probably one of the best character introductions I've ever seen, even though he wasn’t in person. It gave the impression that the Space Pope was some batshit insane character that was also quite secretive. I wish they'd have left the mystery surrounding him rather than introduce such a wooden, boring, unfunny character that initially held such promise. I know there are other eps we've seen him in, but to be frank aside from I Dated A Robot, all of his appearances have been completely forgettable. They should have built up the mystery with more crazy random appearances like a running joke, and then introduce him properly when the novelty had worn off. Instead what we got was a total waste and I’d rather not see him again unless things have changed, which I have my doubts they will...
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SorynArkayn
Bending Unit
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« Reply #254 on: 07-25-2011 22:29 »
« Last Edit on: 07-25-2011 22:30 »
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Even though I expressed that I thought the Space Pope was squandered in this episode, I don't think that his character has been irreparably damaged, and should never appear again.
If the Futurama writers can create an episode featuring the Space Pope, and portray him as the crazy-religious, moral crusading, totalitarian theocrat that was alluded to in the hilarious "I Dated A Robot" propaganda film, that could be a great episode. And if it was great, I wouldn't care if the proper depiction of the Space Pope contradicted that lame depiction of the Space Pope in this episode.
The essential characteristics of a great Space Pope would be he's crazy, and he has great voice acting that is appropriate for a giant talking lizard. If the proposed Space Pope episode accomplished those two things, like I said, I wouldn't care that they contradicted his depiction in "Silence of the Clamps", because it would be so much better!
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Otis P Jivefunk
DOOP Secretary
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Even though I expressed that I thought the Space Pope was squandered in this episode, I don't think that his character has been irreparably damaged, and should never appear again.
If the Futurama writers can create an episode featuring the Space Pope, and portray him as the crazy-religious, moral crusading, totalitarian theocrat that was alluded to in the hilarious "I Dated A Robot" propaganda film, that could be a great episode. And if it was great, I wouldn't care if the proper depiction of the Space Pope contradicted that lame depiction of the Space Pope in this episode.
The essential characteristics of a great Space Pope would be he's crazy, and he has great voice acting that is appropriate for a giant talking lizard. If the proposed Space Pope episode accomplished those two things, like I said, I wouldn't care that they contradicted his depiction in "Silence of the Clamps", because it would be so much better!
The contradiction would be annoying though and could possibly make his appearance in The Silence Of The Clamps even worse! I would however be in favour of a fresh appearance of the Space Pope in which he’s crazy and actually funny as a result of that, but no sooner than Season 7... Remember I said I’d rather not see him again unless things have changed, but because I have my doubts that they would then I really would rather not see him again unless things are very different. Do you honestly think he will change if he appears again in a future episode given his performance in this? Maybe we would be happy if he did, but realistically do you see that happening? I don’t, and that’s why I said what I did...
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deliveryboyman
Poppler
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I liked this episode -- I don't know why so many posters are so critical of it.
I really liked Clamps and the Mafia bots, and enjoyed all the parodies from the Godfather movies. But I didn't like yokel-Bender or the Billy West joke. I'm kinda glad he was killed and wasn't Bender -- that twist was much better than Bender pretending to be a yokel the whole time.
The bleeped out swearing in this episode was kinda funny, and didn't bother me because I assume those were references from the Godfather or probably Goodfellas.
But it was strange having Dr. Zoidberg be the hero of the episode. Although I have to admit that Zoidberg is 2 for 2 against robots.
I loved the Bender's crime "burglarsonlarceny". It would've been perfect if we got to see him actually commit that crime.
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futurefreak
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« Reply #260 on: 12-21-2011 10:45 »
« Last Edit on: 12-21-2011 11:00 »
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Just got the volume 6 dvd, let's see how well the episodes go when they are in their intended order... The Silence of the Clamps is first, I've only watched I think 6 minutes of it so far and actually, it's not as bad as I remembered it being. I haven't seen it since its initial airing...Bender's crying of "I'm scared and great at sex!" caught me off guard and I was dying laughing That overly dramatically music when Bender leaves hahah...in the words of Leela, "oh Lord" "Reckon I was born a farmer, folks say my mama was a hoe" hahah. And I still liked that Billy West line despite the criticism I have seen. Still not a fan of the bleeping. Another great line - Professor: I refuse to believe anyone is happy!
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DannyJC13
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Just for confirmation, the eps are in production order on the 6B DVD/Blu-ray, right?
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futurefreak
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Just for confirmation, the eps are in production order on the 6B DVD/Blu-ray, right?
I believe so, yes. It is not in the airing order. I really like the Billy West line, hee hee.
This is a much better first episode than Neutopia could ever hope to be, at any rate.
On the DVD, everything is bleeped as it was when it aired on CC, then?
I agree with everything you just said. And yeah, it was bleeped out just like on CC.
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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"Bad news, me." "Good news, multiplayers!" "Movietone news, everyone!"
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