Gorky
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Also what commercial does Fry say he learned the light-bike spiral maneuver from?
I think Fry says "Sunny D," but I could be wrong. Though the only other thing I could imagine him saying is "Sunday tea"--and we all know those Sunday tea commercials limit the number of spirals, lest the ninety-year old actors get dizzy.
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Aki
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I have no idea, I hadn't heard of SunnyD before this.
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DannyJC13
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I have no idea, I hadn't heard of SunnyD before this.
Haha, I remember when it was everywhere like 6 years ago, barely see it now.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Didn't someone like turn orange from drinking that stuff? ...
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Gorky
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Does anyone know which SunnyD commercial he is on about?
He probably wasn't referring to a specific commercial, but the general tone of the ads. As I remember it, Sunny D--like all sugary, totally unhealthy beverages--had ad campaigns showcasing healthy, active people living their healthy, active lives with the help of the power of the sun!
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DannyJC13
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Yes, I the power of my hatred for that drink is strong enough to overcome my laziness!
What?
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Gorky
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In "The Problem With Popplers," Bender doesn't even know Fry's full name:
Fry: Turanga? Amy: That's her name, Philip. Bender: Philip?!
Also, I thought URL calling Fry "Phil" was just a gag about how, now that Fry's a mature police guy, he gets to use his big boy name.
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Xanfor
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I think URL is just the kind of guy to refer to everybody by their first name, no matter what they'd rather be called. I've worked with guys like that, and they're usually very, very, very annoying. I'll have to remember to call you Mr. Nerduk from now on. I wouldn't want to offend anyone by referring to you simply as Total.
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Free Hot Meal
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I think URL is just the kind of guy to refer to everybody by their first name, no matter what they'd rather be called. I've worked with guys like that, and they're usually very, very, very annoying. I'll have to remember to call you Mr. Nerduk from now on. I wouldn't want to offend anyone by referring to you simply as Total.
That's Captain Total to you!
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SorynArkayn
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In "The Problem With Popplers," Bender doesn't even know Fry's full name:
Fry: Turanga? Amy: That's her name, Philip. Bender: Philip?!
Also, I thought URL calling Fry "Phil" was just a gag about how, now that Fry's a mature police guy, he gets to use his big boy name.
Considering that police officers IRL refer to each other by their surnames -- such as in "Officer Smith" (aka Smitty) or Chief O'Mannahan -- it's ironic the Url calls Fry by his given name "Phil", whereas his civilian friends and co-workers at PlanEx always called him Fry. I presume that it was intended to emphasize the close partnership and friendship Fry and Url formed in this episode -- and demonstrate how much better of a friend Url is to Fry than Bender ever was. I thought it was a clever bit of insight into their relationship, which was accomplished with ingenius simplicity and succinctness.
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Gorky
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I presume that it was intended to emphasize the close partnership and friendship Fry and Url formed in this episode -- and demonstrate how much better of a friend Url is to Fry than Bender ever was. I think that may be stretching it a little. In all likelihood, URL probably chooses to call Fry "Phil" because he's just enough of a hip-'n'-happenin' cat to pull it off. I do think the writers were implying a certain level of camaraderie between Fry and URL, but I don't think you can extrapolate from that to a Big Statement on the URL/Fry friendship vs. the Fry/Bender friendship.
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SorynArkayn
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I presume that it was intended to emphasize the close partnership and friendship Fry and Url formed in this episode -- and demonstrate how much better of a friend Url is to Fry than Bender ever was. I think that may be stretching it a little. In all likelihood, URL probably chooses to call Fry "Phil" because he's just enough of a hip-'n'-happenin' cat to pull it off. I do think the writers were implying a certain level of camaraderie between Fry and URL, but I don't think you can extrapolate from that to a Big Statement on the URL/Fry friendship vs. the Fry/Bender friendship.
I agree that it was intended to succinctly demonstrate that Fry and Url are friendly. However, I think you're under-estimating the Futurama writers by assuming that there was no sub-text to that line -- or that Url is "so cool" that can call Fry by his given name. The fact is that Fry has rarely ever been called "Phil" or "Philip". It's so unusual that I'm certain that it had a subtle but deliberate meaning -- but the implication wasn't relevant to the story so it remained subtextual and unexamined. Considering that the third act of the episode was more or less about Fry and Bender's friendship, to dimiss the idea that Url calling Fry "Phil" doesn't have any deeper meaning pertaining to Fry and Bender's friendship, is terribly superficial.
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SorynArkayn
Bending Unit
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Eh, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree here. I have great faith in the Futurama writers, but I don't think they had any Grand Intentions with the whole Phil thing. I mean, Leela doesn't call Fry "Phil" either, but I think she and Fry share a deeper bond than him and URL (similarly: is Amy being the only person who knows Fry's real name in "The Problem With Popplers" meant to imply that she and Fry are closer than other members of the PE crew?).
I suppose it's nice that the line is just subtle and ambiguous enough that we can interpret it in different ways, though--that's a cool trick in and of itself.
I refer to it as implied and subtextual. Whereas you refer to it as "Grand Intentions". Obviously we perceive it differently. I recognize that it seems like it might be a throw-away line, that Url calls Fry by his given name. However, the fact that Fry rarely ever is referred to by his given name implies that it's more meaningful than it seems. It's interesting that you referred to "The Problem With Popplers" wherein Fry and Leela's given names were first revealed, because both Fry and Bender expressed an outspoken reaction to hearing Leela and Fry's first names -- as if for the first time. Similarly in "Luck of Fryrish", the fact Fry's given name is Philip was really hammered home because of its significance to the episode. That's why I believe that Url casually using Fry's given name was intended to call attention to itself and have a subtextual meaning, even though that meaning was never explicitly addressed in this episode. I think that's because in addition to Futurama's writers being extraordinary smart and talented, they know that some of us Futurama fans are "pretty on the ball" and are smart enough to pick up on little things like this. After all, how is this any different than any of the countless math or computer or science joke that are hidden in most episodes?
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Otis P Jivefunk
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We got to see a lot more of URL in this ep than pretty much any other ep I can think of. We got more of an insight into URL's character and this example is one of his characteristics. As TNUK says, it's a mannerism, it's just how URL is and that's what they're representing here, at least that's how I saw it...
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futurefreak
salutatory committee member
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I like how we got to see him for the first time out of uniform. He looked quite different to me than expected.
Does mean all robots can take off their uniforms then? I never really thought about it, I thought they were built like that.
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