I wasn't going to do this. But to be perfectly honest, I can and am tired of the implications that I lack the capability.
Regarding Fry not getting his job back: I've explained many times before that TCW provides a perfectly plausible explanation for how Fry was re-hired off-screen: the Professor admits that he forgot why he fired Fry.
The fact is, it should've happened onscreen in order to provide a sense of closure. An episode of a sitcom is generally a closed loop - A situation occurs, comedy happens, and then the situation is completely dealt with by the end of the episode. Loose ends are rarely left to flap around, because the viewer is expecting a return to the status quo by the time the credits roll. Writers have been structuring sitcoms like this since the fifties, and there are very few examples of multiple-part episodes, of necessary continuity happening offscreen and it never being referenced (although there's a rich history of the complex and long scene off-camera being summed up with a single line to explain what just happened to return things to the way they were).
The episode began with Fry being fired. The logical conclusion would be to end with him being re-hired, or to have a single line early in the next episode explain why he's back. Since neither occurred, it's somewhat jarring to the continuity of the programme (which was rather good up until that point).
Presumably if Fry came crawling back to the PlanEx building and begged the Professor for his job back, the Professor would have forgotten why he fired him again, and as long as Bender wasn't present to remind him again, the Professor would've re-hired Fry. It's as simple as that.
But it's not as simple as that. We have no established canon saying that's what happened. We don't even know how Fry survived being dropped from the Planet Express ship whilst in flight over NNY. Even according to the internal cartoon logic of the Futuramaverse, there should've been consequences to that, and they should've happened or at least been referenced
onscreen. They werent. Again, somewhat jarring continuity-wise.
BTW, Leela and Bender were apparently re-hired after Fry and Michelle froze themselves, because they were aboard the PlanEx ship when it landed in LA to find Fry. And that was after the Professor refused to re-hire Leela and Bender, because he had a new delivery crew: Amy, Hermes, and Dr. Zoidberg. So if Leela and Bender were re-hired off-screen without explanation, WHY are the TCW-haters harping on the ending so much when Fry isn't re-hired on-screen, and there's no explanation for how he was re-hired in "Amazon in the Mood"?
That's a pretty lame stretching there. At no point is it stated that Leela or Bender have their jobs back either. Fry, Leela and Bender have at this point been hanging around Planet Express for quite a while without actually being employed there - Farnsworth is still Fry's nephew, after all. Plus, Bender and Leela are presumably friendly with the other employees of Planet Express. They went looking for their friend after he hijacked a cryotube and went missing.
Had they been epxlicitly rehired offscreen, it would've been something of a renormalisation and been somewhat less jarring, but there's nothing to suggest that.
As for Amazon Women in the Mood, it should logically have featured even a single line explanation in order to account for Fry being alive and working for Planet Express again. But it didn't. That's the reason
that the ending to The Cryonci Woman is being questioned so much. Because it's a major hole in continuity.
Regarding Fry's supposed injuries from being dropped out of the flying PlanEx ship: I've detailed how Fry has survived serious injuries before, and has miraculously healed between scenes and episodes without on-screen explanation.
Fry has had some pretty major assitance with surviving serious injuries before. In Put Your Head On My Shoulder, he was saved from death by Dr. Zoidberg's emergency surgery. In Why Must I Be A Crustacena In Love, he was again given surgery by Zoidberg. In Parasites Lost, he was possessed by spaceworms who repaired his body. The list goes on. Each time Fry is seriously injured onscreen, there's either a visual or dialogue based explanation for how he's wandering around alive and well shortly after. Well, almost each time. There's the whole being dropped out of a spaceship
thing that passes without explanation.
Gorky, you claimed that the Professor not re-hiring Fry and then dropping him out of the flying Planet Express ship was "the dumbest, least funny, and most unsatisfying endings of any episode ever". But it's really no "worse" than the endings of many Futurama episodes, which no one seems to have a problem with, including the TCW-haters.
Now this is just plain twisting things. I can defend each and every episode ending here to some degree. Granted, a couple are weak endings. Note how I've never said that The Cryonic Woman has the only
weak ending or that it is the only
bad episode. For the purposes of this discussion though, let's assume that it's the only one I have a major problem with, since that makes this less complicated and means I have to work harder to justify my dislike of it.
I may start using words and phrases from TVtropes. In fact, I almost certainly will. If you don't understand or agree with something I've said, try looking it up and reading it through on TVtropes. If nothing else, it will give you something other to do than antagonise PEELers.
"Hell Is Other Robots" Leela has Nibbler track Bender to the abandoned amusement park in New New Jersey where Robot Hell is located, but Nibbler isn't with Fry, Leela, and Bender when they escape -- presumably he was left there at the end of the episode, and supposedly didn't return until "I Second That Emotion" in Season 2. At the time, the audience didn't know that Nibbler was intelligent, so there was no explanation for how he got back.
Nibbler didn't go down into Robot Hell with Fry and Leela. Nibbler stayed on the surface, and due to NNY and NNJ being in reasonable proximity to one another, it's a not-unreasonable assumption that he was waiting for Fry and Leela by the time they got home. It's a rather small detail, Nibbler not being a main character at the time. The episode itself is one of the best that Futurama have produced, and can be forgiven overall. The Cryonic Woman, on the other hand, is an example of compound failure. By the time we get to the ending, there's been a rather large amount of suck compared to funny or awesome (largely the fault of Michelle, but Pauly Shore must share some of the blame). It's a lot harder to forgive even minor fails by this point, and dropping your main character out of a spaceship
is rather more than a minor detail.
"When Aliens Attack" Fry's words of TV wisdom are that at the end of the show everything is back to normal; juxtaposed by the ironic background shot of New New York left devastated by the Omicronians' invasion.
This is what's called a "sight gag" or visual joke. Basically, everything is back to normal for the main characters. They're still alive, still employed at Planet Express, and can still be reasonably expected to turn up for work tomorrow. However, the city around them is in ruins... as happens on a fairly regular basis in NNY. Fry's casually selfish attitude coupled with the irony of his statement is what drives the humour here. It's an effective joke, and doesn't stamp all over continuity with hobnailed boots, given that aliens invade Earth every so often, that much of the future seems to have the capacity to sustain a great deal of damage and be repaired in short order, and finally, it's funny
. It's a brilliantly set up and crafted joke, and works well as an ending to a very good episode. That's the difference between When Aliens Attack, and The Cryonic Woman. If you don't recognise this, I have to wonder how the hell you "get" a single joke in something as clever and complex as the first season of Futurama.
"Why Must I Be a Crustacean in Love?" Dr. Zoidberg is still angry at Fry, so re-attaches Fry's arm wrong, and then Fry screams that Zoidberg cut off both his legs. Then Zoidberg cuts off something else that makes a loud splat, which everyone generally agrees was his head. At the time, it wasn't revealed that decapitations are non-fatal in the Futurama universe, so the implication was that Zoidberg killed Fry.
Dr. Zoidberg is no longer angry with Fry by that point, and in fact has repaired Fry's body as a favour to make up for mutilating him in the first place. He is, however, a comedically bad doctor. He's grafted Fry's arm to the wrong side of his body, and agrees to "take one more whack at this". Unfortunately, due to being a pretty crappy doctor (often confused by human anatomy, except when the plot demands competence), he takes off Fry's legs. Seconds later, his next attempt to remove the arm results in Fry's decapitation. We know that human heads can be kept alive. We've known this, in fact, since the pilot episode. There's an entire museum
of heads. Living heads. With no bodies. Doctor Zoidberg now has to re-attach all Fry's limbs, plus his head - when originally, all he had to do was put the arm back on. This is funny.
It's a little bit of a stretch, but the joke works
"Put Your Head on My Shoulder" The robot mechanic warns Bender that his ass will explode and could harm others. Fry involuntarily kicks Bender in the ass, causing it to explode in close proximity to Fry and Leela.
Notice how nobody is shown to be harmed by this, save for Bender - his
bottom explodes, everybody else is fine. Bender, being a robot is pretty much indestructible. He's been shown to survive all kinds of damage, and can even be given new parts when one is damaged. I'll admit, it was a weak ending. But the episode itself is a decent one, and therefore a weaksauce ending is somewhat easier to forgive.
"A Clone of My Own" The PlanEx crew rescues the Professor from the Near-Death Star, and the Sunset Squad robots never bother to try to recapture the Professor again -- even though it's their job, and they were adamant that no one escapes.
We don't know what their policy is. Whether it's recapture or cover-up, for a start. Don't forget that the Sunset Squad robots seem to operate independantly of things like birth certificates and paperwork - the Professor says he's been lying about his age... and that's he's contacted the Sunset Squad to let them know. They would appear to operate on some sort of honour system. Once you turn 160, you've to let them know, or they won't come and collect you. It may even be that Professor Farnsworth is assumed dead by the Sunset Squad robots. After all, he did leave in some kind of a coma. The Near Death Star is a joke based on retirement homes for the elderly... these things are not mandatory. It's presumably marketed as some sort of good thing, to encourage old people to sign up for it and be tucked out of sight of the rest of the universe, whilst they wait to quietly expire over the next couple of decades - just like a real retirement home. Other episodes dealing with the Professor's age also don't have people trying to turn him over to the Sunset Squad.
In addition, the whole Near Desth Star journey and subsequent escape is a way for the Professor and Cubert to finally bond. They do so, and suddenly the Professor doesn't have a reason to go back to the Sunset Squad or the Near Death Star. He's finally got a son that he can be proud of, and wants to stick around for that reason. If they accepted him lying about his age before (and those robots do seem chronically stupid), there's no reason he can't lie to them again, if they turn up to try collecting him again.
You're grasping at straws with this one, IMO.
"War is the H-Word" President Nixon's Head and Zapp Brannigan plant a bomb inside Bender's body that will blow up an entire planet. At the end of the episode, Bender triggers the bomb, it explodes, supposedly killing the Planet Express crew and destroying the Earth -- but a second later Bender says, "I'm all right."
This is another weak ending gag (and if you listen to the commentaries you'll note that they added the explosion and the "I'm all right" at the last minute), spliced onto an otherwise decent episode. When Bender triggers the bomb, it clearly doesn't kill him, nevermind the Planet Express crew. I think it's safe to assume that the Earth wasn't destroyed either. It's just an explosion - and we know that Bender can survive quite a bit of that sort of thing. As it wasn't some sort of planet-destroying explosion, it does
raise questions about the effectiveness of the bomb, and the entire plan it was intended for. But it's not a massive issue, really. It's just a weak ending joke, and as it comes hard on the heels of a very good episode, I find it much easier to forgive than, for example, dropping the main character out of a spaceship.
"A Tale of Two Santas" Robot Santa throws Bender out of his flying sleigh and he falls to the ground (almost exactly like Fry in TCW).
Bender is a robot. Practically indestructible. Fry is a meatbag, and vulnerable to physical injury. Bender survives because he is a mighty robot, and not susceptible to the sorts of damage that Fry, Leela, and the other meatbags on the show are. Robot. Robot, robot, robot. Tough. Metal. Impact resistant. 40% Titanium. Inorganic. Are you getting this? He's a robot.
"Crimes of the Hot" The robots "solve" global warming by pushing the Earth further away from the Sun, making the year one week longer. On the DVD commentary, David X Cohen acknowledges that the Earth would be on an elliptical orbit and at certain times of the year it would actually be hotter than before.
Doesn't appear to be an issue within the Futuramaverse though. Again, the difference between playing crappy science for laughs and failing to acheive those is important. In Crimes Of The Hot, we have a good episode, and a resolution that fulfills the trope of playing crappy science for laughs. It works in-universe, and this is why it's rarely questioned. There are science fails throughout Futurama. When they're intentionally bad, ridiculous, or just incredibly illogical, it works as long as they play it for laughs. Compare this with Bender duplicates making alcohol at a molecular level in Benderama.
There's no real "funny" there. The bad science is immediately obvious, and the jokes with the crew being drunk don't come until just a little too late to stop you thinking it through. It's a case of Fridge Logic Failure. Futurama pretty much runs on Fridge Logic. If the episode can stop me thinking "hang on, that wouldn't work" until the credits have rolled, it's done a good job. If I start to think that before
the credits roll, they've failed to invoke Fridge Logic, and so have done a bad job.
"Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles" The Professor is made even older than 160 years-old by the Fountain of Aging.
He started old. He finished old... even got an extra year. Status quo restored, plus a rule-of-funny bonus. It works.
"Obsoletely Fabulous" After Bender wakes up from the "dream" wherein he learned to be compatible with Robot One-X, Bender walks off into a fantasy world.
Not only a joke, but a direct reference to a science-fiction classic. Perhaps that really is
how Bender perceives the world now. We might never know. Either way, the episode ran on rule-of-funny, and the ending was more of a nerd bonus than a failure.
"The Farnsworth Parabox" The episode ends with the Universe A somehow contained inside the Professor's mysterious box, which is simultaneously within said universe, which is contained within said box, ad infinitum.
Brilliant sci-fi/philosophical joke. Not sure what your point is.
"That Darn Katz" The Earth's rotation is changed to west-east.
There's no appreciable difference though. It's one of the many "everything has changed but it's all still the same" moments within Futurama. It's a weak episode overall, for me. I don't like much of it. But the ending is in keeping with Fry's Rule of TV. Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.
Sorry if I keep talking in sentence fragments and cliches, but the thing is, you're just stating episode endings by this point, rather than pointing out any specific problems with them.
"The Mutants Are Revolting" Mutants are granted their freedom and can live on the surface of New New York with everyone else (but I've yet to see any of the mutants on the surface since that episode).
Have we had any mutant-oriented episodes since? I agree that it would've been nice to see them in the background of crowd shots (such as on Parade Day) from time to time, but the writers appear to be playing faster and looser with continuity than previously for the new episodes anyway. This doesn't magically excuse The Cryonic Woman for having such a bad ending. It's not like we've seen the mutants still living in squalor and complaining about their lack of surface rights since, either. Could be they all come up to the surface now, and we just don't see it because it's not relevant to the plot of any of the episodes that've happened since.
"Benderama" Bender duplicates himself again to fold the Professor's shirts, revealing that there's a second grey-goo cloud of mini-Benders, which is apparently isn't dealt with.
No. He doesn't. The sweaters were either folded by "one last mini-Bender" or Bender has learned his lesson. Those are the choices we're presented with at the end of the episode. The cloud of nanoBenders at the end have either learned their lesson (being essentially copies of Bender) along with him, or are set to depart for "someplace they don't have to do one-quintillionth of a thing anymore" the moment they get called upon to do something. That or it's another joke. Personally I find the holes in the planet as the original swarm leaves to be far more egregiously annoying. It's an episode (and a resolution) I don't particularly care that much for, upon repeat viewing. Fridge Logic breaks down at a couple of points, and the episode fails on rule-of-funny too many times for me.
My point is this: The TCW-haters are unjustifiably singling out the ending of "The Cryonic Woman" for ridicule to justify their opinions that TCW is the "worst episode ever", in some kind of bizarre self-reinforcing, non-sensical, logical paradox loop, which would probably cause a robot's head to explode.
Firstly, I've said several times now that there are actually a couple of small parts of that episode I actually enjoy. Seondly, I've said several times now that I think it's one of the worst
episodes because of the ending, and also because of Michelle and Pauly Shore. You seem to be ignoring the whole, and picking out one thing to hold up as a reason why anybody
who dislikes the episode is (by some leap of logic you've yet to explain) dumb.
I believe that Fry's words of TV wisdom from "When Aliens Attack" is the reason why TCW-haters hate "The Cryonic Woman". If Fry had never referenced the TV trope that "in the end, everything is back to normal" I doubt that the TCW-haters would not have singled-out TCW.
The ironic thing is, which I find absolutely hilarious, is that Fry's words of TV wisdom were mocking
TV viewers: "TV audiences don't want anything original. They wanna see the same thing they've seen a thousand times before." So the TCW-haters are dogmatically
obeying the TV trope that nothing should ever
change on a TV show.
It's not that people who hate The Cryonic Woman are dogmatically obeying the trope, it's that Futurama up until that point is a direct example of how that trope works in action. Then it for no adequately explored reason decides to throw it all out of the window and drop the main character out of a spaceship
. It's not funny, it's not clever, it's brutal, unexpected, and induces a feeling of dissonance that's an inappropriate note on which to end an episode. In addition, none of this is addressed in later episodes, which simply serves to illustrate how isolated and unlike the established Futuramaverse this episode and its ending are.
I've put a lot of effort into being as civil as possible in the effort to keep this discussion focused on the episode.
I'd believe you, if you hadn't said this immediately after:
However, based on past experiences -- and despite that this post wasn't directed at him -- I presume that totalnerduk will once again resort to posting his lame "Wrong" gif, because he's utterly incapable of defending his opinions about TCW.
That's a deliberate poke at me - and adequate justification for me to simply post the .gif - which you're quite clearly making in order to bait me into a response. Now you've got the response you were looking for, you have absolutely no grounds to complain if you find it rude, condescending, offensive, or any one of the thousand things I've not made an effort not to be.
I believe that we're all entitled to our own opinions -- however, if you can't reasonably justify and defend your opinions, you can't possibly expect any one else to respect your opinions, nevermind agree with you.
To be frank, at this point I don't care. I have always justified my stance on any episode of Futurama, on PEEL and when I review an episode on CGEF. I don't expect everyone to agree with me automatically (and I've had a few disagreements on various topics here on PEEL with various members whom I still manage to get along with). I don't care whether people "respect my opinions". I just want you to stfu. You're boring
Hey, that'd make a great new .gif to respond to you with!