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flesheatingbull

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« Reply #40 on: 06-27-2011 20:28 »

i still don't get the 'futurama is ruined' crowd. i absolutely loved the movies(tbwabb being my favorite), and several 6a episodes. besides aotka and pi, the episodes are just as good as they used to be.
or something.
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« Reply #41 on: 06-27-2011 22:07 »

I'm not sure now. I thought it was Cryonic Woman, since it's a very low-ranked episode near the end of S3, but I wasn't using titles, 'cause I didn't want to clutter up the dataspace. I guess the only way to find out would be to re-do it, since I've deleted the spreadsheet I used (didn't think I'd need it again).

Screw it. I don't care which episode it is. It's the lowest ranked prior to the FHS, and it's way back in S3. I'm not doing that all over again just to find out.
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« Reply #42 on: 06-27-2011 22:19 »

Say If a mediocre episode from lets say season 2 came out in season 6B so this season 2 episode never aired until 6B everyone would praise it even though it's an average season 2 episode. If neutopia replaced an average season 2 episode everyone would think what a terrible episode. Times have changed people watch the old futurama and notice the differences to the current series.

Benders turned black next thing he will be saying the N-word "yo fry your my Nig....."

There are no main characters anymore all the characters go on the missions now. I miss the 3 main protagonists fry, bender and Leela. I would love to have just one episode this season about fry, bender and Leela like the good ol days, No one else!

Pop culture jokes give it a rest writers they are cheap unrelated jokes that should have no relevance in the year 3000 along with product placement Tommy Hilfiger juicy Coture etc.

I use to like the characters amy and hermes when they were minor character but now they are major characters which doesn't work they can't hold an episode together.
Put it this way it's like having the janitor from scrubs mix in with JD, Elliot, Turk and Carla thats just an example. Minor character are minor characters for a reason have plots focussing on the main three standout characters which made futurama popular in the first place.

These are just my thoughts but hopefully some of you can Identify with them
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« Reply #43 on: 06-27-2011 22:20 »

I'm full of rage after reading that, but I'll let TNUK handle it.
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« Reply #44 on: 06-27-2011 22:25 »

Wait what? I... I... I don't know where to start.

It is really well documented that people love things when they are new and exciting, and push them together with memories of that time. Nostalgia sets in. A bunch of the nerdlingers on this forum (me included) grew up with Futurama. I can't watch an old episode like The Farnsworth Parabox without thinking of when I first saw it with my older brother and my dad. It's a really awesome memory. But to get cold and objective: The Late Philip J. Fry beats Farnsworth Parabox. Yeah, I don't have the same memories connected to it, but the episode itself is what matters. Sure, maybe "Who, Where, What, How?" really does prefer the older episodes, maybe they are right. But I think it's much more likely that they have nostalgic connotations to the older episodes, memories and emotions of when Futurama was new and exciting.

Anyone who still don't get it, go watch the Simpsons episode "The Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie Show".
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« Reply #45 on: 06-27-2011 22:54 »

If you're a fan, great. Enjoy the show. It's back, and it's quite frankly beautiful. If you don't agree, then I suggest you watch Lethal Inspection. Or Prisoner of Benda. Or The Late Philip J. Fry. Then go watch War is the H-Word, or Fry and the Slurm Factory, or Mars University, or Raging Bender, or the 30% Iron Chef. Notice how these are all decent episodes, but the ones I've named from Season 6 happen to outshine them? That's because the ones from Season 6 are great episodes.

Although I see the point youíre making, I donít entirely agree with your comparisons here. Maybe I just love Fry & The Slurm Factory far more than itís healthy to do so (itís my second favourite episode out of the entire show), or maybe that episode is just severely underrated. Either way, in my mind itís comedy gold. Anyway, I donít believe any Season 6 episode stands up to it, perhaps The Late Philip J. Fry comes closest, but thereís still some distance as far as Iím concerned. I think for me what draws me to Futurama most is the comedy, followed shortly after by the setting. Perhaps this is partly why I have those opinions...

I also think that Lethal Inspection is overrated, and I would personally take Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences over it any day. Again I believe this is partly down to my taste in episodes. It may not necessarily be a better episode, but I enjoy it more because of its style and the type of Futurama fan that I am. What Iím trying to say here is that there are a lot of changes with the new run, some more subtle than others, but where some people may be seen to be putting the original run on a pedestal, it may in fact be more down to a change in the style of the show more than anything else...

Perhaps they preferred the older style of the show. Each season has its own style, and inevitably this gradually shifted with each season in the original run, but I think the gap between then and now has seen a larger shift which is most likely due to the larger period of time which passed between productions, itís inevitable really...

Now, I think I'm going to use the CGEF ratings to compile a more specific graph just to ram home the point I'm trying to make here, and then I'll be done with this thread.

Edit: and here it is


Thatís a great graph and kudos for taking the time and effort to put it together. One thing it does sorta confirm though is that Futurama was more consistent at the beginning of its original run, particularly during its first season. This is something that Iíve long believed...

To the people who are arguing that it has never been consistent, I would like you to digest this point. At least in my view, there were no stinkers in the first production season of the show. Perhaps Mars University was slightly weaker, but it was by no means a bad episode, and it doesnít come close to the lows of certain episodes in all of the other production seasons. Production Season 2 on the whole was also very consistent, the low point being The Cryonic Woman. When we got to Season 3 things began to get much more inconsistent. There were a lot of lows and borderline mediocre episodes, but arguably the highs were perhaps the highest Futurama had reached yet, and there were plenty of those too, meaning it was a season of polar opposites and extreme contrasts...

Iím not a man to put the entire original run of Futurama on a pedestal, but overall based on what Iíve seen of the new run I would still rank each season of the original run higher than the new season so far, if only slightly in some cases (and way higher than the movies). Before you think Iím being a hypocrite, I will admit that yes the better episodes of production Season 6 do stand beside some of the older episodes, and they do stand head and shoulders above the worst of what went before. Overall though, I would still take the original production seasons over it...

Let me go into slightly more detail here using a point I made earlier about the stylistic changes in the show with each season. Due to these evident stylistic changes I found that Production Season 4 was the weakest of the original run, and by quite a long margin. Yes it had its gems as with every season new and old, and yes The Sting is in my top five episodes of all time, however, overall it had drifted further away from what I most loved about the show...

Iím aware that after years of talking about Futurama on Peel that this can be quite a controversial opinion not shared by many, but Iím making it to illustrate that had Futurama been cancelled after Production Season 3 and came back after all these years starting at Production Season 4, then I would be saying the same thing Iím saying now, that itís not quite as good as what went before. Iím saying that itís not just down to Original run/New run; itís not as black and white as that to me. There are obviously a lot more greys and hues between that I could go into much more detail about as well, but I donít want this to become an even longer essay...

As it happens, Production Season 6 is the first new season produced solely in an episode-only format to follow the original run, but had it followed straight after Production Season 4 I would be saying the exact same thing. Itís not a huge step down, because as has been rightly pointed out there are extreme contrasts in quality in certain seasons, and as I have pointed out these extremes seem to have only grown wider and more polar opposite with each production season to follow...

Perhaps my tastes and reasoning for these stylistic differences are unique to me, or perhaps they are shared by some of the other fans who also feel that overall there is a slight decline now. That would be down to the people making those claims if they could be bothered reading this far. I am however extremely grateful for these new episodes and I do still thoroughly enjoy all of the new episodes (except Holiday Craptacular)...

I could go into further specifics about the animation, as that also plays a huge part in the feel of the show, but I wonít go there right now...
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« Reply #46 on: 06-28-2011 00:24 »

Very nice, Otis.
I've said this before and I'll say it again, Futurama is my favorite Television Show and an extremely important part of my life. Even when they do such horrible things as the Holiday Spectacular, I will still love them, because it's like loving a child. You cannot give up on them!
   Anyway, I do agree with the fact that every season has had ups and downs and a few seasons only have one or two REALLY good ones. Now, 3 and 4 were the best overall seasons in my opinion, and this is just because pretty much all of my favourites are in there. I also really love BBS and ITWGY.
Overall the first half of this season which aired last summer I was quite disappointing with. But, 3 of my favourite new episodes were in there so I guess I can't complain. HOWEVER, There is definitely a different feel to the new episodes that I'm still getting used to. And it has to do with voices and animation and music. Most importantly, I've noticed almost every new episode involves the entire crew doing some crazy thing. The old ones focused on Fry and his problems and some episodes were focused on other characters and their specific problems and characteristics. This is hard to find in the new ones, that's why I liked "Lethal Inspection" so much because it felt like a classic episode and it HAD HEART. Futurama has heart! <3 That's why episodes like "The Why of Fry" "Parasites Lost" "The Sting" "Luck of the Fryrish" "Jurassic Bark" We're so good!
 I'm sure this season will have some good ones, and I will always be hopeful. If there is a bad episode I don't say OH GOD IS GOING DOWNHILL NO! NO! I will simply say "Meh." And wait for the next one. smile

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« Reply #47 on: 06-28-2011 00:26 »

I'm full of rage after reading that, but I'll let TNUK handle it.

Actually, he analyzed and evaluated his points very thoroughly, and what he's saying is rather valid.
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« Reply #48 on: 06-28-2011 00:28 »

I do agree about Lethal Inspection being pretty overrated though. When I first saw it I thought of it like a new Jurassic Bark, but it lowered incredibly in quality after subsequent viewings. It's still in my top quarter (25) of Futurama episodes though.
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« Reply #49 on: 06-28-2011 00:34 »

I do agree about Lethal Inspection being pretty overrated though. When I first saw it I thought of it like a new Jurassic Bark, but it lowered incredibly in quality after subsequent viewings. It's still in my top quarter (25) of Futurama episodes though.

Yes, its not one of my favourites of all time, the plot itself wasn't even that great. But it was sweet, and it had a good, classic feel to it. That's what I meant. Rebirth, TLPJF and POB were better, and on my list of best episodes but still had that crazy 'new Futurama' feel to them.
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« Reply #50 on: 06-28-2011 01:14 »

What's so wrong with Lethal Inspection all of a sudden?  It even featured young Hermes!
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« Reply #51 on: 06-28-2011 01:15 »

Nothing's wrong with it, but calling it an amazing episode or a favourite episode is overrating it in my opinion. It's over the standard, but it's not amazing.
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« Reply #52 on: 06-28-2011 01:26 »

I found the ending to Lethal Inspection to be quite nice. I loved how they showed scenes from earlier in the episode and tied it in to the end. I'm a sucker for that kind of stuff tongue

Also, the lizard/gecko that went through Bender's eyes and out his chest compartment is one of my favorite Bender gags with his body. laff
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« Reply #53 on: 06-28-2011 01:28 »

Yeah, the ending rocks. :>

I'm still somewhat disappointed that gecko wasn't Inspector #5 though...
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« Reply #54 on: 06-28-2011 05:25 »

Say If a mediocre episode from lets say season 2 came out in season 6B so this season 2 episode never aired until 6B everyone would praise it even though it's an average season 2 episode. If neutopia replaced an average season 2 episode everyone would think what a terrible episode. Times have changed people watch the old futurama and notice the differences to the current series.

First off, it depends on the episode. Secondly, you really don't come across very coherently there. Thirdly, Neutopia is more highly-rated than at least two of the S2 episodes (see the graph).

I do watch the old Futurama, and I see very little difference now that the new run is firmly established, between the great episodes from S6 and the great episodes from other seasons. Yes, there are some small, subtle differences in tone and such. As Otis points out though, each season of Futurama contains small variations in tone, and each season has its own feel to it, without negatively affecting or deviating much from the overall feel of the entire run.

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Benders turned black next thing he will be saying the N-word "yo fry your my Nig....."

I don't think so. That's not going to happen any time soon. Although Bender did sound "a little black" when in the monster's cave, it's not part of his regular characterisation, which is why it was a little bit jarring.

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There are no main characters anymore all the characters go on the missions now. I miss the 3 main protagonists fry, bender and Leela. I would love to have just one episode this season about fry, bender and Leela like the good ol days, No one else!

Futurama has always had an ensemble cast, and has always utilised them well. Some of the best episodes involve cast members other than the core three in major roles, or present as background characters. For example, WMBACIL is arguably about Zoidberg more than anybody else. Yet, the rest of the cast are still there, still important, and still focused on. It's one of the best episodes for me, with a lot of the elements that make Futurama a great show... but it's probably not one you enjoy, based on your statement.


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Minor character are minor characters for a reason have plots focussing on the main three standout characters which made futurama popular in the first place.

Various "minor" characters have been becoming more important as the show progressed. Since season two, they've all been gradually fleshed out. Amy got quite a lot of screen time in S2, just to pick one of your examples. Hermes had a whole episode that he carried well, to pick another.

As for Lethal Inspection,
Nothing's wrong with it, but calling it an amazing episode or a favourite episode is overrating it in my opinion. It's over the standard, but it's not amazing.

That's just it. Right there. Nail on the head. It's got nothing wrong with it, which is unusual for a Bender-centric episode. It's over the average bar, and it's definitely a marker for the quality that S6 is capable of on a regular basis. That's why it's pulled out so often as an example. Also, don't forget that S6 itself is a relatively small sample size compared to the entirity of the production run, so you're bound to get the same S6 episodes held up as examples of one thing or another again and again.
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« Reply #55 on: 06-28-2011 07:16 »

i think that one reason why some folks aren't digging the new episodes is that they are in HD. the animation is much more clear and vivid and different. heck, i prefer the older look myself, but i also realize that that is just nostalgia talking.

i'd also like to mention another thing.

i've always skimmed through this site in the past, and never spent any significant time here. these past few weeks or so, i have. one thing that strikes me as awesome, is how varied folks opinions are.

for instance, i've been a fan of the show since it's induction. i bought every dvd set on the day of release, and subsequently watched the hell out of them. over time(years), i found myself going back to episodes that folks on here aren't too fond of.

examples:
the deep south
war is the h-word(one of my absolute favorites)
the birdbot of ice-catraz
bendin' in the wind(another one of my favorites)
i dated a robot(god, do i love the robot jokes in this one)
a pharoh to remember
30% iron chef

those are just a few examples. honestly, i never expected the fanbase to have such strong opinions about certain episodes. this series makes me happy, and i enjoy every single episode(besides rebirth((voice acting TERRIBLE)),  aotka, and pi).

all in all, futurama has **POETIC CLOSING REMARKS NOT FOUND**
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« Reply #56 on: 06-28-2011 07:21 »

Aside from the fact that I enjoed Rebirth, I think that you're wrong about the voice acting. The last line, for example is perfectly delivered. tongue

Wheeeeeeeee!
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« Reply #57 on: 06-28-2011 07:26 »
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Aside from the fact that I enjoed Rebirth, I think that you're wrong about the voice acting. The last line, for example is perfectly delivered. tongue

Wheeeeeeeee!

the last line can't save the entire episode.

fry's voice is off. overly nasally, is how i'd describe it. the way he says 'hermes conrad' at the beginning is a perfect example of what i mean. besides the fact that i hated the plot, billy's voice acting took me out of episode.

just my opinion, of course.

edited: i also rather enjoyed 'iagdl', unlike just about everyone else on this site. people seemed way too invested in the fry and leela thing. i mean, leela had to sleep with zapp or the earth was DOOMED. DOOOOOMED!!! it was the only logical choice. also, i was always of the opinion that if fry and leela hooked up, the show would be missing out on a great overarching plot; an overarching plot that they've used practically from the beginning of the series.
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« Reply #58 on: 06-28-2011 07:30 »

The only one from the list you mentioned that I wasn't particularly fond of was Bendin in the Wind, but I'm also not a fan of that type of music. A Pharaoh to Remember and 30% Iron Chef were awesome and had great side characters supporting the story. I really enjoyed The Deep South and War is the H word for its great one-liners. Wasn't the manwich introduced in TDS?
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« Reply #59 on: 06-28-2011 07:33 »

Wasn't the manwich introduced in TDS?

it was indeed.
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« Reply #60 on: 06-28-2011 14:01 »
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edited: i also rather enjoyed 'iagdl', unlike just about everyone else on this site. people seemed way too invested in the fry and leela thing. i mean, leela had to sleep with zapp or the earth was DOOMED. DOOOOOMED!!! it was the only logical choice.

It's not that she had to do it that's the problem, it's that she didn't mind. Leela in character would have preferred having the world end before having sex with Zapp, and it would had taken some real convincing from the rest of the crew before she finally agreed.

The only one from the list you mentioned that I wasn't particularly fond of was Bendin in the Wind, but I'm also not a fan of that type of music. A Pharaoh to Remember and 30% Iron Chef were awesome and had great side characters supporting the story. I really enjoyed The Deep South and War is the H word for its great one-liners. Wasn't the manwich introduced in TDS?

This. A Pharao to Remember is highly underrated in my book.

Aside from the fact that I enjoed Rebirth, I think that you're wrong about the voice acting. The last line, for example is perfectly delivered. tongue

Wheeeeeeeee!

You are generally correct, though I do agree that Fry's voice is a little off since TOS. It feels like with Billy getting older, this voice (which is very close to his real voice) is aging as well. I don't hear a big difference in his other voices, though. But I don't mind, to me it just feels like Fry has aged a little over the years. smile

edit: By the way, I just bought the Volume 5 DVD, and I've started listening to the commentaries. In 6ACV02, they note that in the original script, Leela was the one protesting and being reluctant, while Zapp was still interested in copulation after it had been requested by the V-GINY. However, the writers thought this was to cruel and "a little rape-ish", and so they switched the roles around.
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« Reply #61 on: 06-28-2011 20:50 »
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The only one from the list you mentioned that I wasn't particularly fond of was Bendin in the Wind, but I'm also not a fan of that type of music. A Pharaoh to Remember and 30% Iron Chef were awesome and had great side characters supporting the story. I really enjoyed The Deep South and War is the H word for its great one-liners. Wasn't the manwich introduced in TDS?

This. A Pharao to Remember is highly underrated in my book.

Although I quite like the episode, especially the setting and the fact they were making a good old fashioned delivery to another planet, it was Bender's particularly obnoxious attitude throughout which I feel let the episode down. I believe this is one of the primary reasons for the low ratings by a lot of people...

That reminds me, I liked the fact that a delivery was made in Benderama because as time has gone on that aspect of the show seems to have become less of a priority. I donít mind too much because the show would be too one-dimensional if it was about a delivery every week, but itís nice every now and then to go back to basics and remind us that thatís what Planet Express do...
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« Reply #62 on: 06-28-2011 20:55 »
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Bender? TOO much of a jerk? laff

At least the slaves were happy for one night and even had a dance number!

Back on track, I have noticed many 3d crowd shots recently. I think the first time I saw one of those was possibly Fear of a Bot Planet.
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« Reply #63 on: 06-29-2011 02:51 »
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The only one from the list you mentioned that I wasn't particularly fond of was Bendin in the Wind, but I'm also not a fan of that type of music. A Pharaoh to Remember and 30% Iron Chef were awesome and had great side characters supporting the story. I really enjoyed The Deep South and War is the H word for its great one-liners. Wasn't the manwich introduced in TDS?

This. A Pharao to Remember is highly underrated in my book.

Although I quite like the episode, especially the setting and the fact they were making a good old fashioned delivery to another planet, it was Bender's particularly obnoxious attitude throughout which I feel let the episode down. I believe this is one of the primary reasons for the low ratings by a lot of people...

Yeah, same for me. Bender's not a brilliant character to drive an episode, sadly. He's got a couple of really good ones, but Pharaoh and Bendin' aren't on the list for me. They're sub-par. Pharaoh for Bender's insufferable asswipery during the first and second acts, and the fact that the whole "PX crew enslaved by ancient egyptians" thing could've been done... better. I think that the episode misses the mark by a wide margin thanks to Bender's characterisation, and a significantly narrower one thanks to the overall lacklustre plot resolution.

Bendin' on the other hand fails for me because I have trouble believing that...
  • Beck will be relevant in the 31st century
  • The PX crew would so readily take to being penniless drifters and hippies
  • The PX crew would be allowed to do so by the Professor
In addition, Bender's hydraulics are severely damaged in the opening, allowing the whole "broken robot" plot to go ahead. We're told that he's completely b0rked. Yet somehow, a miracle occurs and he gets back full functionality. Wtf? Robots do not work that way! Biological organisms, yes. Robots? No! It irritates me when writers pull lazy shit like that. No explanation, no sci-fi mumbo jumbo to soothe my aggrevated continuity gland, nothing.

Yet, both of these episodes do have moments I enjoy. I can admit that much to myself. Still, I'd place them at the bottom of the pile if it came to watching them in descending order of how much I enjoy them - there would be three or four S6 episodes before them, including Neutopia.

Back on track, I have noticed many 3d crowd shots recently.

Benderama's 3D panning around the space giant was the best I've seen in S6. There's been quite a lot of 3D in S6, but it's not always quite as appropriately placed or well-executed as it is in those scenes. The 3D animation's also getting harder to differentiate from the 2D as they become better at integrating the two. So perhaps it would be more accurate to say it's the best I've seen that's noticeably a set of 3D sequences.
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« Reply #64 on: 06-29-2011 02:56 »

In BITW, I assumed that a control bit got triggered in Bender's internal registry by the electromagnet, making his diagnostics show irreparable damage. In actuality, he was perfectly fine, and all it took was a reboot (which likely occurred somewhere along the line) to correct it, and a little extra time afterwards for Bender to realize that he was no longer disabled.
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« Reply #65 on: 06-30-2011 11:41 »

If anything, "Lethal Inspection" seems better to me now than when I first saw it. A lot of the character motivations in particular seemed really lazy (like, why IS Hermes just following Bender around? Why does he care?), but it works a lot better once you know the twist and it's actually very clever. And the whole episode is rather thematically interesting, again even more so once you know the ending and realize that the whole episode isn't just about dealing with mortality (which is very well-handled by itself) but about a second chance at life, which Bender received literally in the twist as well as more metaphorically by the end of the main story.

Plus, hey, the ending is really good.
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« Reply #66 on: 06-30-2011 11:55 »

Which gets to another point of "old Futurama style": rewatchability.

I find that I can easily rewatch every okay, almost every original episode of Futurama, which is something that Futurama doesn't share with many other television shows. Family Guy or South Park or some drama series, for example, don't really have that value, but shows like Futurama and Arrested Development do.

As DotheBartman said, Lethal Inspection had rewatchability and it was better on second viewing knowing the twist! That's something that's really hard to do in any story; having a story with a twist ending being rewatchable or dare say better the second time. The Prisoner of Benda is an episode from the new run that's also fantastic on repeat viewing just because of the hilarity and so many subplots. However, I have found myself not really able to appreciate the second-viewing value of all of the new episodes; one that I can't find myself taking the energy to watch again is Rebirth. I don't know why, but every time that I've seen it since the first time, it just gets less and less interesting.

Anyway, that was partial "everything new sucks" rant and partial "guys, everything's fine" happiness... So I hope I didn't confuse everybody too much.
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« Reply #67 on: 06-30-2011 12:40 »

edit: By the way, I just bought the Volume 5 DVD
From the US?

And I'll say that I think that the 3D has 'worked' in most situations. I felt that the "gyroscopically stable" part of The Mutants Are Revolting was the one of the "best".
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« Reply #68 on: 06-30-2011 12:43 »

Eh, I didn't care too much for the molten mercury in Neutopia...
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« Reply #69 on: 06-30-2011 15:50 »

Shouldn't this thread have a spoiler alert in the title? It's rather impossible having this discussion without loads of spoilers, and no-one seems to care about it anyway (just look at the discussion on the ending to LI).

edit: By the way, I just bought the Volume 5 DVD
From the US?

Yep. Seeing as I mostly watch DVD on my computer (which is region-free) and seeing as I speak fluent English so I don't care for subtitles, it didn't really matter much which region it was.
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« Reply #70 on: 06-30-2011 18:34 »

I dunno, I've found the season 6 episodes to be perfectly re-watchable. In most cases they're at least somewhat better on repeat viewing, but Lethal Inspection was just notably so. But I'd watch a random episode from the Volume 5 set about as readily as I'd pick one from the other volumes. The only problem is that I saw some of them a few too many times over just the course of the year since they've aired.
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« Reply #71 on: 06-30-2011 18:44 »

I dunno, I've found the season 6 episodes to be perfectly re-watchable. In most cases they're at least somewhat better on repeat viewing, but Lethal Inspection was just notably so. But I'd watch a random episode from the Volume 5 set about as readily as I'd pick one from the other volumes. The only problem is that I saw some of them a few too many times over just the course of the year since they've aired.

Second. Some episodes, like Duh-Vinci Code and Clockwork Origin, were watched just a little too much. Still, they're all rewatchable.
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« Reply #72 on: 06-30-2011 19:06 »

I saw a lot of them two or three times within the week they aired (watching them again myself, showing them to my friends or my sister, etc) and then I've seen them yet MORE times showing them to MORE people since the official DVD came out. So it's been overload on some of them, considering I don't generally watch a single episode more than once within a year or so of time. But even considering that, they hold up quite well.
Aki

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« Reply #73 on: 06-30-2011 19:18 »

I generally watched each episode twice right after I got it, with a break in between for commenting on it here on PEEL. Being able to watch it several times in a row is a good sign that it's good TV. smile
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #74 on: 06-30-2011 19:55 »

In my understanding, yes. I've never really understood it, but then again I've never understood the hatred for Cubert either.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #75 on: 06-30-2011 19:58 »

And 'A Clone of my Own' is seen as a bad ep? confused

Not to me, it's one of the best Season 2 eps as far as I'm concerned...

Anyways, tonight's ep, I think it'll be one of the best new eps. I hope so anyways...
DannyJC13

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« Reply #76 on: 06-30-2011 20:03 »

And 'A Clone of my Own' is seen as a bad ep? confused

Not to me, it's one of the best Season 2 eps as far as I'm concerned...

Anyways, tonight's ep, I think it'll be one of the best new eps. I hope so anyways...


Seconded. And seconded again. Looks interesting to say the least. Only problem is the VideoBB feed has stopped working, now I have to watch it on shitty Video Weed. frown
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #77 on: 06-30-2011 20:07 »

I never realized the similarity of the titles "A Clone of My Own" and "A Leela of Her Own".

Same here! eek

And 'A Clone of my Own' is seen as a bad ep? confused

I used to dislike Cubert, but I've never disliked that episode. It's got some of the best animation, some of the best 3D, some of the best lines, and it has a touching moment where Cubert realises that being just like Farnsworth might not be such a bad thing after all.

It also established a few aspects of the Futuramaverse which have been important later on. We realise that the Professor is deeply driven by his existential angst at having only lived half a life, and this might be why he's constantly coming up with bizarre new things that either threaten the fabric of the universe, or push the boundaries of science beyond what is ethically acceptable. We realise that he's been involved in some pretty groundbreaking research, that he was a big wheel at Mom's robot factory, and that he's responsible for much of the technology which defines the 31st century.

A ton of stuff crammed into just under half an hour. Along with multiple Nerd Bonus jokes, and some of the best best integration of 2-and-3D animation in the original run. Even if you dislike Cubert, it's one of the best episodes of Futurama.
Who, Where, What, How?

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« Reply #78 on: 06-30-2011 20:53 »

A 'clone of my own' is an awesome episode Danny.

I Was just watching an episode of ghost hunters and their was a ghost in the washing machine...apparently. Reminded me of the title for this ep.
lilkitten29

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« Reply #79 on: 06-30-2011 21:05 »

A Clone of my Own is one of my favorite episodes. I don't like Cubert, but I like the episode..mainly because of the great animation as tnuk stated. I also love the whole segment of when Fry was dressed up as Farnsworth.
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