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Imy

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« Reply #160 on: 06-04-2011 15:01 »

Oh, and it seems Zoidberg ties the knot with someone or rather something this season! Although, that could be just to fuel a joke in Benderama.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #161 on: 06-04-2011 15:36 »

Oh, and it seems Zoidberg ties the knot with someone or rather something this season! Although, that could be just to fuel a joke in Benderama.

Where'd you get that information?
Imy

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« Reply #162 on: 06-05-2011 13:21 »

From the table reading at Comicon. The professor refers to Zoidberg's wedding photographs as "any old matter" and puts it into the machine that creates the Bender duplicates.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #163 on: 06-05-2011 13:33 »

Oh yeah I remember, I think it's just to fuel the jokes like you said. wink
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #164 on: 06-05-2011 16:22 »

Imy, you are a goddess. Seriously, nobody knew of that information. Please bestow us nerds with your prophetic knowledge.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #165 on: 06-05-2011 17:32 »

Seriously, nobody knew of that information.

Actually, it's been on YouTube for months...

http://bit.ly/bd7IVk
Imy

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« Reply #166 on: 06-06-2011 03:19 »

I am the grand searcher of the interwebs!!!
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #167 on: 06-19-2011 14:39 »

Did anyone happen to see a new commercial for the new season with Zapp as the narrator?  In it, it shows Leela stuck in something crying "Why?"  Anyone know what's going to happen in that?  Is it just her stuck, or will everyone else be stuck with her?  (I hope).

Aki

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« Reply #168 on: 06-19-2011 14:41 »

I didn't see it (I'm not an American) but it seems logical it's the Cold Warriors episode, in which she gets a cold and is quarantined.
Dorsal Axe

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« Reply #169 on: 06-22-2011 12:30 »

A thought just occurred to me... Stephen Hawking is appearing in "Reincarnation", and he has completely new voice now doesn't he?
Aki

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« Reply #170 on: 06-22-2011 13:34 »

Huh. I didn't know that, but I googled and found this. The company of the new voice-thingie is NeoSpeech, who have a website where you can try out the voices. They are freakishly accurate and doesn't sound like Hawking at all. :| I hope they don't just use his old voice for the episode though, that would be annoying and un-Futuramaish. Obviously they will have to call attention to the new voice.
Dorsal Axe

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« Reply #171 on: 06-22-2011 14:47 »

Huh. I didn't know that, but I googled and found this. The company of the new voice-thingie is NeoSpeech, who have a website where you can try out the voices. They are freakishly accurate and doesn't sound like Hawking at all. :| I hope they don't just use his old voice for the episode though, that would be annoying and un-Futuramaish. Obviously they will have to call attention to the new voice.
Hmmm... That is scarily realistic indeed.

Maybe they'll digitally alter the voice to sound slightly more synthesised. Or maybe he whacks out the old voice for these appearances... But yeah, as you said, they'll definitely have to call attention to it somehow. Otherwise no one will think it's him! tongue
Aki

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« Reply #172 on: 06-22-2011 14:53 »

Well, when he "appeared" on Family Guy they used a completely different computer to generate his lines, to make it sound like his... frown
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #173 on: 06-28-2011 04:27 »

Instead of cheney, the storyboard initially featured kissinger in the role. First off, id have preferred that they had kept him(as it goes hand in hand with futurama's underlying vintage tone).

Anyways, id like to see kissinger back, as he has a uniqe and well mimiced voice. I also feel that they could squeeze a few more jokes out of him.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #174 on: 06-28-2011 05:57 »

I'm taking this conversation here. The speculation thread is looking a little anorexic recently, don't you think?

Unlike the overwhelming majority of you on the fat-ass "News" thread, I actually found the clip very befitting. Remember that god-awful episode, "30% Iron Chef"? Bender had an entire pad full of ready-made runaway/suicide/tattoo threat notes. And Bender has attempted suicide in "Space Pilot 3000", "The Beast with a Billion Backs (Part 2)" (in that instance he hand-wrote his suicide threat), and in "Lethal Inspection", so it is a recurring idea with him. And for those saying this goes in the face of everything "Lethal Inspection" built, I told you, I told you, I told you that the fatal defect will be ignored (but I could imagine the writers to bring it up again).

Now onto what the overwhelming majority was whining about- Fry's line "It sure was nice of the mayor's wife to have sex with me." You probably know I'm a Futurama-humping shipper, but that line didn't bother me a bit. I don't understand how so many of you can be so upset that Fry, who is somewhat in a relationship with Leela, had sex with somebody else. Maybe I'm looking at the context of the intercourse: Fry probably saved the mayor's (wife's) life instead of some robot, and to repay him the mayor's wife was probably so grateful that she offered him her sexual services just for a quick thrill. No biggie. However, I hope they develop Mayor Poopenmeyer's personality beyond the sexually-promiscuity of "The Simpsons" Mayor Quimby. Seems like they're taking Mayor Poopenmeyer's personality in a bit of a different direction, but he was seen walking alone with the Queen of Yonkers in "The Mutants are Revolting".

The conversation between Fry and Bender on whether Fry thinks human life is more precious than robot life appeared on some adverts on Comcast On Demand. I don't know how to tape it other than holding a camera in front of my television, but I don't think it does much respect for the items in the advert. However, I would like to add right now that there was a scene at the beginning of the advert where we see a hovervan (kind of big like a bus) taking off from a never-before-seen bus station complete with roofed waiting bench in front of the Planet Express building. We then see a shot of Fry looking up as the hovervan rockets up into the sky with smoke trailing behind it with a sort of hurt look on his face, complete with lines under his eyes. Just sayin', methinks it be from "Overclockwise" somehow. I thought that there was something behind the smoke in the first shot, but I'm afraid when I tried pausing it a thousand times there was nothing to be made out.

I liked the introduction of the character, Lynn the suicide booth, brought up while Leela is doing her nails. I still would like to see her maintain her elbow-talons once though.

Also, at approximately :43 seconds into the video where Bender is just about to enter the suicide booth (Lynn- I gotta call all suicide booths "Lynn" from now on), there are several posters to the right on the wall that shows an image of Hypnotoad accompanied with the word "OBEY" in alienese underneath it. It was kind of blurry, but considering it's Hypnotoad, it didn't take much effort to translate the idea he/she/it was getting across.

One of the greatest jokes that I've heard in a long time is the DeadEx honk. Didn't see it coming, but so like Futurama, and just so... genius, in my opinion.

Also, I can't tell what book Hermes is reading in the beginning scene of that clip. Any thoughts/ideas/decipherments?

Last note: if it weren't for Fry having to wear the tinfoil cap throughout "Into the Wild Green Yonder", the taking-off hat Fry uses in the ending scene of that clip would've wonderfully gone (matched and clashed) with the ensemble he wore while golfing on Mr. Wong's mini-golf course.
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #175 on: 06-28-2011 06:50 »

i stopped reading after you said that '30% iron chef' was yivo-awful.
Aki

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« Reply #176 on: 06-28-2011 14:17 »
« Last Edit on: 06-28-2011 14:20 »

I agree with a lot of your points, Frida, but I think you miss my biggest concern. The pacing. It feels like it all goes really fast. First, Bender talks about killing himself, then he kills himself, then he's dead. It feels like there was a bunch of cut scenes in between. I had hoped they made a bigger deal of it, right now it feels like Fry's computer broke - "oh crap, now I'll be sad for a week or so". But maybe that's just my reaction.

As with you, I don't mind Bender trying to kill himself, he's been there, done that. Having Lynn actually _murder_ him, makes it even better. I've always seen all Bender suicides before as being pretty all of a sudden, and he changes his mind right in time (except for 1ACV01 and BwaBB) before it happening, but this time he simply had no choice, Lynn took him out. Oh, and yeah, I too loved the casual laying in about Lynn beforehand, it was nice. ^^

I can also agree with you about the sex thing, I didn't think far enough when I complained the first time around. If it is like you speculate, I don't mind. Leela has always struck me as someone who wouldn't ever settle down, but that would differentiate love and sex.

Also, I can't tell what book Hermes is reading in the beginning scene of that clip. Any thoughts/ideas/decipherments?

I didn't notice until you mentioned it. It says "Podcast Digest". :P

edit:
The conversation between Fry and Bender on whether Fry thinks human life is more precious than robot life appeared on some adverts on Comcast On Demand. I don't know how to tape it other than holding a camera in front of my television, but I don't think it does much respect for the items in the advert. However, I would like to add right now that there was a scene at the beginning of the advert where we see a hovervan (kind of big like a bus) taking off from a never-before-seen bus station complete with roofed waiting bench in front of the Planet Express building. We then see a shot of Fry looking up as the hovervan rockets up into the sky with smoke trailing behind it with a sort of hurt look on his face, complete with lines under his eyes. Just sayin', methinks it be from "Overclockwise" somehow. I thought that there was something behind the smoke in the first shot, but I'm afraid when I tried pausing it a thousand times there was nothing to be made out.

Woah... that definitely sounds like Overclockwise. Really starting to look forward to that episode, it seems super-shippy.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #177 on: 06-28-2011 16:14 »

I agree with a lot of your points, Frida, but I think you miss my biggest concern. The pacing. It feels like it all goes really fast.

Well, they do have to squeeze in all this plot into a 22-minute episode. But I think once you see the entire thing, it won't seem that fast compared to other moments in the episode.

I didn't notice until you mentioned it. It says "Podcast Digest". :P

Thanks. It was too blurry on my computer to read.

Woah... that definitely sounds like Overclockwise. Really starting to look forward to that episode, it seems super-shippy.

Oh, I forgot one last note about that scene. Might be important, because it may give us clues to the context, but it takes place at night. That is all.
Gorky

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« Reply #178 on: 06-28-2011 17:47 »

I can also agree with you about the sex thing, I didn't think far enough when I complained the first time around. If it is like you speculate, I don't mind. Leela has always struck me as someone who wouldn't ever settle down, but that would differentiate love and sex.

The line about having sex with the mayor's wife doesn't bother me because it refutes my belief that, at the very least, Fry and Leela are two people who are aware of their feelings for one another and wouldn't want to do anything to hurt the other person; honestly, I can buy that Leela wouldn't mind Fry having sex with the mayor's wife, same as Leela having sex with Zapp in "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" doesn't seem to bother Fry beyond that episode. Like you say, there's a clear differentiation between love and sex, and if neither Fry nor Leela takes issue with the extracurricular hook-ups in question, then they don't bother me, either.

No, what really bugs me about these lines is how unnecessary they are. Yeah, the offhandedness of Fry's remark did make me laugh, but I don't think I'd have missed the line if it weren't in the episode. Like FoA mentioned in the news thread, it seems like the writers put these shipper-baiting lines in the episodes just to piss shippers off. And it seems like they want to have their cake and eat it too, because "The Late Philip J. Fry" doesn't have as great an emotional impact if we don't assume that Fry and Leela are in some kind of relationship--but things like Leela and Fry sleeping with other people, and their various throwaway lines (Fry "lookin' for love" in AotKA; Leela not having a  man in TDK), only work if the viewer assumes that Fry and Leela are still just good friends. Uh, who love each other. And have slept together.

It's just so needlessly confusing, because the writers don't seem to want Fry and Leela in relationships with other people, nor does the ship really get much play in episodes that are not designated shippy episodes (like "Rebirth" and TLPJF). It seems to me that making Fry and Leela a canonical couple would have virtually no effect on the rest of the series, for how easily the writers can just shove the relationship into the background when it does nothing for the story (which is how it should be, anyway; I don't want the ship to overtake the series. I just want it to be consistent).

On the other hand, DtB made a good point in the news thread about this season's overall arc--not resolving the Fry/Leela relationship until "Overclockwise" will likely give that episode an extra emotional punch. But that doesn't mean that the intervening episodes don't send really mixed messages to shippers.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #179 on: 06-28-2011 17:50 »

All this from one clip, what's it gonna be like when the episode airs?! eek
Gorky

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« Reply #180 on: 06-28-2011 17:53 »

Oh, you don't wanna know, Danny. tongue

Seriously, though: Just rewatched the clip, and it does look like this episode could be really funny (and possibly even a bit emotional on the Fry/Bender front). The mayor's wife thing just bugs me in the grand scheme of season six, where throwaway lines like that contribute almost nothing to the episode and just seem designed to inspire annoyance in diehard, nitpicky shippers like myself.
Aki

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« Reply #181 on: 06-28-2011 17:57 »

On the other hand, DtB made a good point in the news thread about this season's overall arc--not resolving the Fry/Leela relationship until "Overclockwise" will likely give that episode an extra emotional punch. But that doesn't mean that the intervening episodes don't send really mixed messages to shippers.

At least I hope that's what's going to happen. If everything is right in this universe, Overclockwise will have them doubting what's really happening - much like the shippy viewer has throughout the season - and then they finally break up. They then reunite and make passionate love (on screen, uncensored) and kiss, and hey, ho, season 6 is over. In season 7 they are a proper couple. Everybody wins!

Seriously, though: Just rewatched the clip, and it does look like this episode could be really funny (and possibly even a bit emotional on the Fry/Bender front). The mayor's wife thing just bugs me in the grand scheme of season six, where throwaway lines like that contribute almost nothing to the episode and just seem designed to inspire annoyance in diehard, nitpicky shippers like myself.

Second. After rewatching it a few times (and transcribing it for the Infosphere), it felt a lot better. Looks like a fun episode, and I'm looking forward to seeing Bender's ghost in hell.

All this from one clip, what's it gonna be like when the episode airs?! eek

This is the speculation thread. What did you expect?
DannyJC13

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« Reply #182 on: 06-28-2011 18:00 »

I just remembered we got those Storyboards of Fry and the Mayor in the Countdown, so it's all gonna link in. smile

Captain Obvious?
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #183 on: 06-28-2011 21:09 »

Overall I'm liking the look of the clip, but I can see why certain issues with it have been raised and I think perhaps there's a little sloppiness in the writing of certain lines. I think Bender could be quite funny in this episode, and hopefully he won't be an obnoxious ass...

There is a lot of great comedy potential with him being a ghost, and I hope he fucks around with every electronic device that the living touch, of which there should be many. I only hope the episode makes the most of this and doesn't just play it for the types of cheap laughs that are at the expense of certain story arcs and character consistencies...
Aki

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« Reply #184 on: 07-01-2011 06:47 »

where we see a hovervan (kind of big like a bus) taking off from a never-before-seen bus station complete with roofed waiting bench in front of the Planet Express building. We then see a shot of Fry looking up as the hovervan rockets up into the sky with smoke trailing behind it with a sort of hurt look on his face, complete with lines under his eyes.

Now that "Ghost in the Machines" has been released, there is a scene when Bender first meets Robot Devil, and he sits on a bench by a bus stop on that exact location. Coincidence? I think not! I know you said it was roofed, but still. Has that bus stop been seen before?
Imy

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« Reply #185 on: 07-03-2011 11:01 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2011 11:06 »

Would it be probable that Zoidberg' is married to cross species dresser "Grrl"? Her attraction to other intelligent interplanetary species and Zoidberg's "of course I'll marry you  tongue" and the "Zoidberg's Wedding Album" suggest that perhaps that happened!

I'm bored and I think too much when I'm bored. Feel free to rip my theory to shreds.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #186 on: 07-03-2011 16:31 »

Probable, though I like to think it's an album of all the wedding cakes that he can't afford, taunting him with their delicious designs.
Who, Where, What, How?

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« Reply #187 on: 07-03-2011 17:04 »

The Mobius Dick clip annoys me a lot with the whole crew in the ship....again!

I don't think I'm going to enjoy this show much longer, If they don't start basing more episodes around my three favorite characters and the majority of viewers favorites too.
I use to like amy, hermes, scuffy but now they always appear and I'm really starting to hate them.

I hope the creators realise this soon. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way frown
Aki

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« Reply #188 on: 07-03-2011 17:27 »

Is it really that important? I mean, I too would like more episode centred solely around those three, but are you serious when you say you are not going to enjoy the show much longer if they continue this way?
Gorky

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« Reply #189 on: 07-03-2011 17:51 »

Yeah, I agree that that might be taking things a bit too far. There were a few episodes from season 6A ("The Duh-Vinci Code" and "The Late Philip J. Fry" come to mind) that had a very nice old school feel to them, and a lot of that (for me, at least) was attributable to the fact that the use of the supporting characters was kept to minimum. I think if you wait it out, you might find that there are some episodes this season that pan out similarly ("Law and Oracle" seems like it will be Fry-centric, for example).
Who, Where, What, How?

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« Reply #190 on: 07-03-2011 17:56 »

Law and Oracle will have a lot of the minor characters, I think. The writers want to include everyone it seems for signing their contract to return to the series. Which is fair but they are also paying the price by ruining the show for a lot of people because of this.
Aki

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« Reply #191 on: 07-03-2011 18:00 »

Law and Oracle will have a lot of the minor characters, I think. The writers want to include everyone it seems for signing their contract to return to the series. Which is fair but they are also paying the price by ruining the show for a lot of people because of this.

I would like you to answer my question.
Who, Where, What, How?

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« Reply #192 on: 07-03-2011 18:10 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2011 18:16 »

I think so Aki after catching repeats of old futurama on tv and then watching the new episodes, it really does bug me not having the main three anymore doing their deliveries.  As i've said I use to like the minor character, when they were minor but they have to much screen time devoted to them, even episodes based around them in the new run.

When you are writing a tv show you work really hard creating your main characters that people are going to root for and easily likable. The writers took the most time creating Fry,Bender and Leela and made a few minor character so they can be used when their needed, not intended to hold an entire episode around them.

It's all about the contract in my eyes. The producers are so glad to have everyone back on board so they try and use all their characters equally.

So this is why I may stop tuning in soon,  it really does affect the show In my opinion.
I will watch this whole season but if it doesn't resolve itself, Futurama may lose a viewer. I love the show so much though so I hope the writers will change this. I hope it will be addressed to the producers at some point in the near future because they really need to know.
Aki

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« Reply #193 on: 07-03-2011 18:17 »

You didn't answer my question.

[...]are you serious when you say you are not going to enjoy the show much longer if they continue this way?
Who, Where, What, How?

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« Reply #194 on: 07-03-2011 18:22 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2011 18:40 »

Reasons for not watching the show much longer

* To much screen-time for minor characters ruins the story
* Episodes based around minor characters
* pop culture jokes (should have no relevance in year 3000)
* Their are no main characters anymore
* Majority of the new episodes feel rushed
* To many edgy jokes, we got south park for that
* The crew hardly go to weird planets anymore
* Getting to repetitive
Aki

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« Reply #195 on: 07-03-2011 19:14 »
« Last Edit on: 07-03-2011 19:16 »

Reasons for not watching the show much longer

[...]

* Most episodes centered in New New York

I decided to test this (I have too much maths and too little experimental science over the summer).

1 Introduction

1.1 Hypothesis:
More episodes of the second run of Futurama, as compared to the previous run, is set in New New York (NNY).

1.2 Method:
The episodes of seasons 4 and 6 are given points depending on whether or not they are centred in NNY. The points given to season 4 are summed up to p_4, while those of season 6 are p_6. Read more of this on 2.2 Notes of interest.

If the hypothesis is correct, p_6 > p_4.

2 Implementation

2.1 Data:
Season 4: (production order, all aired)
1: Kif Gets Knocked up a Notch - centred in New New York. 1
2: Leela's Homeworld - half centred in NNY, half in the sewers. 0.5
3: Love and Rocket -  not centred in New New York. 0
4: Less Than Hero - centred in New New York. 1
5: A Taste of Freedom - centred in New New York. 1
6: Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television - centred in New New York. 1
7: Jurassic Bark - centred in New New York. 1
8: Crimes of the Hot - centred allover the place. 0
9: Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles - mostly centred in New New York. 0.5
10: The Why of Fry - not centred in New New York. 0
11: Where No Fan Has Gone Before - not centred in New New York. 0
12: The Sting - centred in New New York. 1
13: Bend Her - centred in New New York. 1
14: Obsoletely Fabulous - not centred in New New York. 0
15: The Farnsworth Parabox - debatable, centred in two versions of New New York. 0.5
16: Three Hundred Big Boy - centred in New New York. 1
17: Spanish Fry - not centred in New New York. 0
18: The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings - centred in New New York. 1

Season 6: (broadcast order, currently aired)
1: Rebirth - centred in New New York. 1
2: In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela - not centred in New New York. 0
3: Attack of the Killer App - centred in New New York. 1
4: Proposition Infinity - centred in New New York. 1
5: The Duh-Vinci Code - not centred in New New York. 0
6: Lethal Inspection - not centred in New New York. 0
7: The Late Philip J. Fry - not centred in New New York. 0
8: That Darn Katz! - centred in New New York. 1
9: A Clockwork Origin - not centred in New New York. 0
10: The Prisoner of Benda - centred in New New York. 1
11: Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences - centred in New New York. 1
12: The Mutants Are Revolting - half centred in NNY, half in the sewers. 0.5
13: The Futurama Holiday Spectacular - centred all over the place. 0
14: Neutopia - not centred in New New York. 0
15: Benderama - centred in New New York. 1
16: Ghost in the Machines - centred in New New York. 1

2.2 Notes of interest:
  • Season 6 was chosen as it is the only season aired from the second run. Season 4 was chosen because it was the last of the original run, so that any unseen shifts in style within the original run wouldn't disturb the results of this analysis.
  • All episodes take place a little bit in NNY. Those who only feature it a little bit in the first or third act, like Spanish Fry, Love and Rocket and Neutopia, are given 0 points.
  • Those episodes that feature NNY frequently or solely, like Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch, Less Than Hero and Benderama, are given 1 point. Some of these feature other locations as well, but NNY takes up the most screen times.
  • Those episodes that are split between NNY and some other place (for example by a b-story or by shift of scenery) are given 0.5 points.
  • I decided to count the sewers as outside of NNY. It doesn't matter, however, since there are only two episodes in which they are used frequently enough so that the episode is given 0.5 points instead of 1, and these two (4ACV02, 6ACV12) is in each season, so even if you disagree it is still weighed out by the end.
  • The location of "The Farnsorth Parabox" is debatable, as it takes place in two parallell versions of NNY. As they are in reality two, albeit almost identical, cities, I chose to give it 0.5 points.
3 Analysis

Points of season 4 = p_4
Points of season 6 = p_6

p_4 = 1 + 0.5 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 0.5 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 0.5 + 1 + 0 + 1 = 10.5

p_6 = 1 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 0.5 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 1 = 8.5

There are more aired episodes of season 4 than of season 6, and the total points of the episodes have to be calculated to be comparable:

10.5/18 = 0.5833

8.5/16 = 0.53125

4 Conclusion

p_4 > p_6, meaning more episodes of season 4 was centred in New New York as compared to season 6. However, the difference, 0.052 points, is marginal, and one might say that there is practically as much NNY in the both seasons.

The hypothesis is wrong.
jeepdavetj

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« Reply #196 on: 07-03-2011 19:21 »

Holy. Crap.
Svip

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« Reply #197 on: 07-03-2011 19:23 »

Welcome to PEEL.
Aki

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« Reply #198 on: 07-03-2011 19:27 »

I realized I made a pretty grave mistake something might call me out on. Updated version:

Reasons for not watching the show much longer

[...]

* Most episodes centered in New New York

I decided to test this (I have too much maths and too little experimental science over the summer).

1 Introduction

1.1 Hypothesis:
More episodes of the second run of Futurama, as compared to the previous run, is set in New New York (NNY).

1.2 Method:
The episodes of seasons 4 and 6 are given points depending on whether or not they are centred in NNY. The points given to season 4 are summed up to p_4, while those of season 6 are p_6. Read more of this on 2.2 Notes of interest.

The points will be divided by the number of episodes (number of episodes are e_4 and e_6 respectively) to avoid season 4 getting more points for having more episodes.

p_4/e_4 = x_4
p_6/e_6 = x_6

If the hypothesis is correct, e_6 > e_4.

2 Implementation

2.1 Data:
Season 4: (production order, all aired)
1: Kif Gets Knocked up a Notch - centred in New New York. 1
2: Leela's Homeworld - half centred in NNY, half in the sewers. 0.5
3: Love and Rocket -  not centred in New New York. 0
4: Less Than Hero - centred in New New York. 1
5: A Taste of Freedom - centred in New New York. 1
6: Bender Should Not Be Allowed on Television - centred in New New York. 1
7: Jurassic Bark - centred in New New York. 1
8: Crimes of the Hot - centred allover the place. 0
9: Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles - mostly centred in New New York. 0.5
10: The Why of Fry - not centred in New New York. 0
11: Where No Fan Has Gone Before - not centred in New New York. 0
12: The Sting - centred in New New York. 1
13: Bend Her - centred in New New York. 1
14: Obsoletely Fabulous - not centred in New New York. 0
15: The Farnsworth Parabox - debatable, centred in two versions of New New York. 0.5
16: Three Hundred Big Boy - centred in New New York. 1
17: Spanish Fry - not centred in New New York. 0
18: The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings - centred in New New York. 1

Season 6: (broadcast order, currently aired)
1: Rebirth - centred in New New York. 1
2: In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela - not centred in New New York. 0
3: Attack of the Killer App - centred in New New York. 1
4: Proposition Infinity - centred in New New York. 1
5: The Duh-Vinci Code - not centred in New New York. 0
6: Lethal Inspection - not centred in New New York. 0
7: The Late Philip J. Fry - not centred in New New York. 0
8: That Darn Katz! - centred in New New York. 1
9: A Clockwork Origin - not centred in New New York. 0
10: The Prisoner of Benda - centred in New New York. 1
11: Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences - centred in New New York. 1
12: The Mutants Are Revolting - half centred in NNY, half in the sewers. 0.5
13: The Futurama Holiday Spectacular - centred all over the place. 0
14: Neutopia - not centred in New New York. 0
15: Benderama - centred in New New York. 1
16: Ghost in the Machines - centred in New New York. 1

2.2 Notes of interest:
  • Season 6 was chosen as it is the only season aired from the second run. Season 4 was chosen because it was the last of the original run, so that any unseen shifts in style within the original run wouldn't disturb the results of this analysis.
  • All episodes take place a little bit in NNY. Those who only feature it a little bit in the first or third act, like Spanish Fry, Love and Rocket and Neutopia, are given 0 points.
  • Those episodes that feature NNY frequently or solely, like Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch, Less Than Hero and Benderama, are given 1 point. Some of these feature other locations as well, but NNY takes up the most screen times.
  • Those episodes that are split between NNY and some other place (for example by a b-story or by shift of scenery) are given 0.5 points.
  • I decided to count the sewers as outside of NNY. It doesn't matter, however, since there are only two episodes in which they are used frequently enough so that the episode is given 0.5 points instead of 1, and these two (4ACV02, 6ACV12) is in each season, so even if you disagree it is still weighed out by the end.
  • The location of "The Farnsorth Parabox" is debatable, as it takes place in two parallell versions of NNY. As they are in reality two, albeit almost identical, cities, I chose to give it 0.5 points.
3 Analysis

Points of season 4 = p_4
Points of season 6 = p_6

p_4 = 1 + 0.5 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 0.5 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 0.5 + 1 + 0 + 1 = 10.5

p_6 = 1 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 0 + 1 + 1 + 0.5 + 0 + 0 + 1 + 1 = 8.5

Episodes of season 4 = e_4 = 18
Episodes of season 6 = e_6 = 16

There are more aired episodes of season 4 than of season 6, and the total points of the episodes have to be calculated to be comparable:

x_4 = p_4/e_4 = 10.5/18 = 0.5833

x_6 = p_6/e_6 = 8.5/16 = 0.53125

4 Conclusion

x_4 > x_6, meaning more episodes of season 4 was centred in New New York as compared to season 6. However, the difference, 0.052 points, is marginal, and one might say that there is practically as much NNY in the both seasons.

The hypothesis is wrong.
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Wow NNY is one of my favourite things about Futurama... =L

And Who, Where, What, How?, it isn't that bad...
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