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Gorky

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« Reply #120 on: 03-06-2011 19:24 »

I know we've finished discussion this bit, but I carried it on anyway.
Okay, so we were talking about Fry and Leela starting a family and stuff. Well, I think that it could be done, but only within these situations:
(First of all, I think it should be a one/two episode thing)
An experiment of the Professor's which involves Fry and Leela
How it could end: Maybe the experiment does work properly and the 'infant' ages very quickly so before Fry and Leela could become attached it has already become old and passed away.
Why it could be an interesting episode: As it grows through it's life stages, it becomes close friends with the different members, for example:
Infant: Fry, Leela
Toddler: Nibbler (?)
Child: Dwight, Cubert
Teenage: Could become bully of Dwight and Cubert, befriend Bender (?)
Young Adult: Amy
Adult: Hermes, Zoidberg, Scruffy (?)
Senior: The Professor
(Obviously Fry and Leela would count for all stages... maybe not Senior)
The episode would have a serious emotional end, for obvious reasons.

Work these ones out yourself...
A 'mutant' thing with Leela
An alien related, an alien which morphs into certain species
Within an Anthology of Interest episode

 

Pretty cruddy, but whatever, I'm tired.  laff... sleep

I kind of like the rapidly-aging kid thing, but I doubt the writers would go there (then again, I don't think we'll be seeing Fry and Leela with a baby any time soon (if ever)). Like I said before, the writers seem to have a hard enough time committing to Fry and Leela as a couple (I mean, I'm still not even a hundred percent sure they are a couple)--sticking them with a baby would drastically change the tone of the show (or just the tone of that particular baby-related episode), which is something the writers seem to be very sensitive to.

TOTP Non-dance.
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« Reply #121 on: 03-06-2011 20:36 »

They're one of those couples that are in constant denial. It was cute through seasons one through five with all the heartfelt things fry would do for leela,  now it's just grown annoying what with the zoidberg and professor love making.
Gorky

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« Reply #122 on: 03-07-2011 00:29 »

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the zoidberg and professor love making

See, I thought that was a nice subversion of the sort of sitcom-ish trope of the couple arguing about you-only-like-me-for-my-looks and whatnot. It was kind of a screw you (uh...no pun intended) to the fans, what with the first (non-AOI) consummation of the Fry/Leela relationship taking place when the characters weren't in their real bodies--but it was still kind of sweet, in its own (eye-burning) way.

Generally speaking, the episodes that I enjoyed most this season were the ones that either didn't acknowledge the Fry/Leela relationship at all ("Lethal Inspection", for example, neither acknowledges nor denies Fry and Leela's existence as a couple; it just plain doesn't matter in the context of the episode) or that treated Fry and Leela as a canonized couple about whom it is unnecessary to pass comment (for example, it is an accepted-but-not-overtly-stated fact in "The Late Philip J. Fry" that they're dating; ditto for "The Prisoner of Benda"). Though they didn't kill the episode for me, those throwaway lines in episodes like "That Darn Katz" (about not having a man) sort of confounded me. And the mile-deep-club gag in "The Duh-Vinci Code" was all kinds of uncalled-for (but, I'll admit, amusing).

So, yeah: I don't think they're playing the denial game anymore; the writers seem willing to use Fry and Leela as a couple when it suits the needs of the episode. Now they just have to learn to the leave their relationship alone when its existence adds nothing to the episode in question: don't show them holding hands or swapping spit if they're not the focus of the episode--but, by the same token, don't have them lamenting their loveless existences.
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« Reply #123 on: 03-07-2011 00:41 »

I think I should clarify what I meant. I mean the characters are in denial of the nature of their relationship, I agree with you that the writers will use them as a couple when necessary. These episodes that forces their relationship are just tedious compared to the ones like Time Keeps on Slipping and Parasites Lost, when the emotions between them were a subtle, beautiful gesture. I just found it sorta stupid that they'll bone in Professor and Zoidy's bodies but not their own when you know looks never had anything to do with it roll eyes

Nothing is played out like the aforementioned episodes, except The Late Philip J. Fry which I absolutely loved, very touching. That's how all Leela/Fry heavy episodes that focus on the nature of their relationship should be in my opinion. Sweet, subtle, beautiful. I loved it. smile
Gorky

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« Reply #124 on: 03-07-2011 00:53 »
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That's how all Leela/Fry heavy episodes that focus on the nature of their relationship should be in my opinion.

TLPJF does kind of nail it, doesn't it? It strikes me as the offspring of "The Sting" and "Time Keeps on Slipping"--kind of trippy, very sci-fi, a little tragic, and immensely emotionally-satisfying.

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These episodes that forces their relationship are just tedious

Oh, agreed. I kind of dislike "The Mutants Are Revolting" because the inclusion of the Fry/Leela relationship strikes me as a little forced (and really melodramatic, what with Leela's "OH NOOOO!" when Fry jumps into the lake). Leela getting pissed off at Fry for revealing her identity is fine enough--but his self-mutating thing carries it a bit too far, in my mind. Compare it to the similarly mutant-centric episode, "Leela's Homeworld", where Fry does something incredibly sweet for Leela (something driven not just by his single-minded desire to "make" her love him--but out of genuine love and friendship), but it's not an overtly shippy episode. And it works.

I know you're talking about the characters' actions, but I just can't help but blame the writers: they are just so inconsistent when it comes to using the ship to an episode's advantage. I could take it or leave it when it comes to "The Mutants Are Revolting", but it adds a certain value to "Leela's Homeworld." The in-your-face aspect, like you mention, is probably what makes me meh on it in certain episodes; the more subtle it is, the better it is.
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« Reply #125 on: 03-12-2011 20:41 »

I guess if they are going to order another season, they'll announce it close to the premier in june?
Gorky

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« Reply #126 on: 03-13-2011 01:04 »

Well, they announced season six in June of 2009, if I recall correctly, and it premiered a year later. So my guess is that we should get confirmation of new episodes at or around the premiere this June, if not sooner.

Of course, they could always announce it at Comic-Con, which is usually some time in July, if I"m not mistaken.

(There's also the possibility that we won't be getting new episodes beyond these remaining 13, but I'd rather not brace myself for that possibility just yet.)
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #127 on: 03-13-2011 18:26 »

(There's also the possibility that we won't be getting new episodes beyond these remaining 13, but I'd rather not brace myself for that possibility just yet.)
Who said that?
There is no such thing, you can't renew an old show and then cancel it again, can't happen.


But, I would like another season. It's not going all "simpsons" yet.  laff
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« Reply #128 on: 03-13-2011 18:35 »

From what i've heard from this story here (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/02/futurama_renewed.html) sounds like comedy central are in talks to order more episodes right now, but no decision has been made yet.

Seems to me a a renewal is likely, but not certain just yet.
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« Reply #129 on: 03-13-2011 19:57 »

I'm just praying it holds out long enough to make it to UK TV.....  smile

Also hope it lasts longer than the first time it was on air, and doesn't turn into The Simpsons like CommanderZapp said. =L That Susan Boil thing made me cringe and I instantly thought of it as some sort of Family Guy sketch.  no no
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« Reply #130 on: 03-14-2011 10:10 »

It's the fart jokes I can't stand. Once they do that, it's over.

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« Reply #131 on: 03-18-2011 17:33 »

I call murder on that!
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« Reply #132 on: 03-24-2011 19:40 »

So I guess the last ep of Season 6 is gonna be another open ended farewell episode, but now we know there will be a Season 7, so I guess they've got time to change it, so do you think they will?...

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« Reply #133 on: 03-24-2011 19:47 »

I was thinking that, but maybe they could leave it as a two parter, 1st part end of Series 6, 2nd part opening of Series 7.
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« Reply #134 on: 03-24-2011 19:57 »

I think they will just keep it as a open-ended-ending-the-series-on-a-high-note-maybe episode.
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« Reply #135 on: 03-24-2011 20:55 »
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Speaking of that, seeing as how the trend seems to be that we are going to be getting batches of 26, do you think that we are going to have to keep dealing with a farewell episode every two years from now on?  I don't know if I can keep putting my heart out on the line like that, only to have it stomped on like a nerd's face.   hmpf

EDIT: And even further on that note - are we going to have to continue to deal with the finale of each batch being the 25th episode followed by a 26th that is some sort of AOI/Holiday Spectacular/Reincarnation splork that doesn't really "count" as far as canon goes?  I sure hope not.  I would much rather have any AOI type episodes be mixed in the middle of the batch and have the finale actually be the final episode of said batch.
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« Reply #136 on: 03-25-2011 20:45 »

I dunno, having any sort of "finale" to the batch would detract from the season finale's finale-ness, I think.
lemily33

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« Reply #137 on: 03-29-2011 20:29 »

It seems to have been renewed somewhat officially now. Any word on if this is legit or if it's just Katey Sagal?

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/03/24/futurama-renewed/
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #138 on: 03-29-2011 20:48 »

I think there has been some posts to Comedy Central saying that it's fully official. It's like officially official now. wink
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« Reply #139 on: 03-29-2011 22:34 »

To quote Fry in "Brannigan Begin Again": wooOOOOOOooo!
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« Reply #140 on: 04-24-2011 15:10 »

Say, since we're speculating about the upcoming new season, is there any word of Neotopia yet?  There's pictures of it on Facebook.   Anyone know what the female Fry's and Zoidberg's names are going to be?

Is there any new info about what the plot to "Law and Oracle" is going to be about?  I'm thinking of skipping that one.  
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« Reply #141 on: 04-24-2011 15:48 »

There is a summary of it on the Infosphere, it says Fry quits Planet Express and joins the Police...  wink
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« Reply #142 on: 05-19-2011 15:07 »

I saw that on the Infosphere.  Why should it be Fry?  Why not Bender?  I know what it should be about:  Fry, Bender, and Leela go to a planet kingdom and meet a prince who's a Fry look a like.  He's miserable as a prince, so Fry decides to switch places with him.  Then Leela and Bender take him to earth and the Prince that looks like Fry becomes a cop to have some excitment in his life.

It should be about that. 
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« Reply #143 on: 05-19-2011 17:00 »

I think working at Planet Express is more exciting than being a cop. laff
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« Reply #144 on: 05-19-2011 17:00 »

I saw that on the Infosphere.  Why should it be Fry?  Why not Bender?  I know what it should be about:  Fry, Bender, and Leela go to a planet kingdom and meet a prince who's a Fry look a like.  He's miserable as a prince, so Fry decides to switch places with him.  Then Leela and Bender take him to earth and the Prince that looks like Fry becomes a cop to have some excitment in his life.

It should be about that.  

No, it shouldn't. Your opinion on everything is just terrible.
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« Reply #145 on: 05-19-2011 17:18 »

I'm sorry to say I agree.
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #146 on: 05-23-2011 04:42 »

I wanted to post this song for a while now. It just sounds very "Futurama"-esque to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rtt-TmReaw
(Ignore the dancing 9-year-old please)
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« Reply #147 on: 05-28-2011 21:11 »

I saw that on the Infosphere.  Why should it be Fry?  Why not Bender?  I know what it should be about:  Fry, Bender, and Leela go to a planet kingdom and meet a prince who's a Fry look a like.  He's miserable as a prince, so Fry decides to switch places with him.  Then Leela and Bender take him to earth and the Prince that looks like Fry becomes a cop to have some excitment in his life.

It should be about that. 

That plot idea has been reused so many times, and I think before to some extent in this show.

Also, why the hell would Bender want to become a cop?

Also, it wouldn't say "Fed up with his go-nowhere job, Fry joins the police force," it would be "Fry finds a prince on a distant planet. Fed up with his [obviously] go-nowhere job as royalty, the prince decides to switch places with Fry, who has an [obviously] more interesting dead-end job as a delivery boy. Then fed up with that go-nowhere job, the prince decides to become a cop."

No, it shouldn't. Your opinion on everything is just terrible.

Second.
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« Reply #148 on: 05-29-2011 13:49 »

Second.

Third.
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« Reply #149 on: 05-30-2011 16:22 »
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Community-member bashing aside, I gots some new insight on the future episode "Fry am the Egg Man" that has me swimming in excitement and thought.

First off, I didn't mention this on the "Futurama Dreams" thread, because I thought it was too ridiculous and I assumed (and still assume) that the thread is "dead" (it's at least buried). Well, I had this dream probably more than a year ago while I was wetting myself with anticipation over the return of Futurama to broadcast, where Fry was involved with a tertiary storyline that was not mentioned at all throughout the episode in my dreams but instead told through the background. In my dream, Fry became pregnant and was wearing a green sweater for the "pregnancy" and is found shortly later in the episode back to pre-pregnancy body and cooing his new baby monkey. Yeah, that was my dream. I wouldn't call it much of a "dream", as that connotes a wonderful, positive experience, and I wouldn't call it a "nightmare", either, as it wasn't bad and didn't have me screaming profanities in my sleep. So, it's best to consider this just a "hallucination of the unconscious, at-rest mind".

Now onto the actual speculation. It'll be funny, gooey with Fry-Leela relationship crap, and moderately repulsive (at least to me). They'll probably begin with the premise or end with the idea that Fry makes a good father, yadda yadda, we're done.
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« Reply #150 on: 05-30-2011 19:36 »

Hm, the Green Sweater and Monkey in your dream makes me think you watched Mars University and A Fishful of Dollars that night before you went to bed. laff

And yeah, FATEM sounds like a good ep, should be interesting to find out what the B Plot will be... smile
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« Reply #151 on: 05-30-2011 20:35 »

I just  puked in my mouth a little..
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« Reply #152 on: 05-30-2011 20:38 »

With joy or sickness?
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« Reply #153 on: 05-30-2011 20:47 »

Well just the thought of Fry being pregnant is just a bit sickening. lol
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« Reply #154 on: 05-30-2011 21:57 »

Yeah, that's a common side effect of pregnancy smile...
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« Reply #155 on: 05-31-2011 07:02 »

It's not a fetish or anything...
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« Reply #156 on: 05-31-2011 08:12 »

Yeah, it's not like he's the first male Futurama character to become preggers, eh?

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« Reply #157 on: 05-31-2011 15:19 »

Yeah, it's not like he's the first male Futurama character to become preggers, eh?

Indeededly so.

Let me get the list going...
- Bender in "The Route of All Evil" "Birthed" an Ale with Fry and Leela's Assistance/Insistence
- Kif in "Kif Gets Knocked Up a Notch" Birthed a Dozen-Something Tadpoles with Smizmar Amy and Mother (I'd call her Father in this case) Leela
- Zapp Brannigan in "DOOP the Right Thing!" (Comic #4) Aborts Alien Babies/Parasites

I prolly missed something... but, I'm too lazy to go back and double-check.
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« Reply #158 on: 06-03-2011 09:30 »

If Fry and Leela have sex in Neutopia, I will lose it mad

Subsequently, if Leela gets Fry pregnant I will never watch again  laff


Aside from my insane speculation... FATEM seems like a brilliant episode  tongue I just hope it's nothing along the lines of... the above...  wtf?
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« Reply #159 on: 06-03-2011 10:39 »

Why would it be? Zoidberg and another alien have sex and lay the egg? Plus, Zoidberg would die right? confused
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