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Kryten

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« on: 11-25-2010 06:16 »
« Last Edit on: 11-28-2010 05:01 »

Welcome to the new thread! This is where you can talk about the season in general, up until this point. Any future episodes can be discussed in the speculation thread.

The old thread is here.
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #1 on: 11-27-2010 01:39 »

Dammit, Kryten, you beat me to it. I guess I can relish the fact I was first reply... Season 6 was, to me, the second best season on record, besides Season 3.
Svip

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« Reply #2 on: 11-27-2010 01:51 »

He beat you to it.  BY TWO DAYS.
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #3 on: 11-27-2010 02:06 »

Oh. Darn...
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #4 on: 11-27-2010 21:54 »

Season 6 is hard to compare to anything else.
Talkin' only 'bout Futurama, I'd say that it was just as good as Season 2 & 3. Soo yeah, it was good. But compared to the other animated shows, it was a lot better.

The first 6 episodes + E13 were good compared to "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy".
But the 07-12 episodes were fantastic, just amazing.
I'm glad that Futurama's become just as good as before in no-time.

Louiswuenator

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« Reply #5 on: 11-28-2010 00:12 »

For me its all about the 16:9 baby.  That alone makes it 160% more awesome.
FishyJoe

Honorary German
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« Reply #6 on: 11-28-2010 03:05 »

I was very high on season 6. It had a couple of lame-o episodes, but as Zapp said, the second half was pretty solid. But then the recent Xmas special left a bad taste in my mouth. Now I don't know what to think.

Hopefully the rest of the 6ACV episodes are kickass...but I have to admit that I am worried. Most of the pre-season 6 buzz was about episodes that have already aired. We had production staff going on record saying that episodes like The Late Philip J Fry and Prisoner of Benda were their favorite episodes ever. It seems we haven't heard as much positive buzz about the next batch of episodes...but perhaps that is by design.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #7 on: 11-28-2010 04:42 »

For me, the XMAS special was all over the place, poorly constructed and flat.  I was expecting something on the order of the 2 previous XMAS episodes, but it didn't compare favorably.  I was also disappointed by this season; I expected a lot more.  In some episodes, the writing had the cast saying things completely out of character; it's like the writers weren't even trying to stay within the characters themselves.  I hope the next 13 are better, but I'm concerned.
Kryten

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« Reply #8 on: 11-28-2010 05:08 »

For me, it went like this:

Rebirth: Good.
In-a-Gadda-Da-Leela: Average-to-bad.
Attack of the Killer App: Terrible.
Proposition Infinity: Good.
The Duh-Vinci Code: Average-to-mediocre
Lethal Inspection: Very good.
The Late Philip J. Fry: Excellent.
That Darn Katz: Average-to-good.
A Clockwork Origin: Very good.
The Prisoner of Benda: Excellent
Lrrrecconcilable Differences: Mediocre
The Mutants Are Revolting: Very Good-to-Excellent
Futurama XMas Spectacular: Terrible.
Jezzem

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« Reply #9 on: 11-28-2010 05:59 »

For me, the XMAS special was all over the place, poorly constructed and flat.  I was expecting something on the order of the 2 previous XMAS episodes, but it didn't compare favorably.

Could that be because the other 2 Xmas episodes aren't non-canon AOI-type episodes?
FishyJoe

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« Reply #10 on: 11-28-2010 06:07 »

I will review each episode, because I secretly want to be just like Kryten.

Rebirth: Good start. A little "off", but it had enough laughs and a good enough story.

In-a-blah-blah-blah-blah: Meh. The jokes tried too hard to be "edgy"; story went nowhere.

Killer App: I have to admit, this one has really grown on me with repeated viewings. I've moved it from the "dislike" pile and now have it proudly displayed in my "like" pile.

Prop Infinity: Hilarious!

Duh-Vinci: Not funny. frown Which is too bad, because I liked the storyline and the planet Vinci. Cute ending with Fry saving the day. I just wish it had brought the funny.

Lethal Inspection: Loved it. Good comedy, good characters, good feel-good ending.

Late Philip J Fry: Classic.

That Darn Katz: Worst episode ever. frown

Clockwork Origin: I've only seen this one once. For whatever reason, I never seem to catch it as a rerun. But on first viewing, I thought it was one of the funniest episodes of the season. And it had a clever story. I like it.

Prisoner of Benda: Fan-freaking-tastic! I was actually out of breath laughing at a couple of points, which is very rare for me.

Lrrr Differences: Mixed feelings on this one. Started out with a lot of laughs with the comic-con, but I didn't care much once we got into the main story.

Mutants Are Revolting: Another one that I've only managed to catch once. I remember it being funny, but not spectacular. Would love to see it again--I still think about the ridiculousness of the land boat and chuckle.

Xmas Spectacular: Bad.

TheFuturamaChannel

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« Reply #11 on: 11-28-2010 06:27 »
« Last Edit on: 11-28-2010 06:30 »

Actually I don't think the spectacular was that bad I have seen way worse.
I thought the Kwanzaa rap was was pretty good.
The basic story concept in all was pretty bad though.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #12 on: 11-28-2010 08:39 »

 
For me, the XMAS special was all over the place, poorly constructed and flat.  I was expecting something on the order of the 2 previous XMAS episodes, but it didn't compare favorably.

Could that be because the other 2 Xmas episodes aren't non-canon AOI-type episodes?
That's possible, but the laughs just weren't there for me.  I keep coming back to the same thing: writing.  I think what it ultimately comes down to is, they dumbed it down some from the original run.  What used to be satiric & witty is now more heavy handed & crude.
TheFuturamaChannel

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« Reply #13 on: 11-28-2010 21:25 »

What I heard was that they did that because a lot of the audience didn't get a lot of the jokes.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #14 on: 11-28-2010 22:07 »

Who said that?  If true, then that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard; they dumbed down the writing, thereby losing the things (wit, satire, sarcasm) that drew people in in the first place. 
TheFuturamaChannel

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« Reply #15 on: 11-28-2010 22:52 »

Who said that?  If true, then that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard; they dumbed down the writing, thereby losing the things (wit, satire, sarcasm) that drew people in in the first place. 
Lots of different people on this website. But the jokes and the basic story concept for the episodes aren't as good as they used to be. Don't get me wrong though I love Futurama. I really hope that they start to get better. Not just for me but for the sake of the series.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #16 on: 11-28-2010 23:10 »

*facepalm*   You're using PEELers opinions on this website as your source of "what I heard was"?  Unless they're in the industry & have first hand information (I don't know of any PEELer working on Futurama) or can cite a source, then everything here is opinion & conjecture.  Do everyone a favor & don't quote PEELers posts, as though they were outside sources; that's just silly.  If you're going to use various PEELers as a source of info, you should say something along the lines of "Some of the posters here have said" or something like that. 
TheFuturamaChannel

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« Reply #17 on: 11-29-2010 02:04 »

Yes, I see your point here. Realize though I have just only become a Crustacean. So I am new to this.
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #18 on: 11-29-2010 05:21 »

lol at anyone liking Prop Infinity.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #19 on: 11-29-2010 05:41 »

Yes, I see your point here. Realize though I have just only become a Crustacean. So I am new to this.
First off, welcome to PEEL!  Second, best thing to do before posting a lot is to read the rules (you may have done so already; most don't, so it bears repeating); you'll have a lot more fun & will quickly become a member of this community.  Lastly, do that again and I'll kill you!  Nah, I'm just kidding, you're alright... big grin
FishyJoe

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« Reply #20 on: 11-29-2010 06:16 »

You would have to be some kind of romo not to have laughed at Prop Infinity. Tons of funny gags. I can't believe the hate it gets.
Louiswuenator

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« Reply #21 on: 11-29-2010 06:58 »

You would have to be some kind of romo not to have laughed at Prop Infinity. Tons of funny gags. I can't believe the hate it gets.

For real.  It's amazing how much hate all of season six gets in general.
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #22 on: 11-29-2010 09:17 »
« Last Edit on: 12-28-2010 00:12 »

You would have to be some kind of romo not to have laughed at Prop Infinity. Tons of funny gags. I can't believe the hate it gets.
The gags was funny, but like "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela", the general story seemed "forced". George Takei were funny, but I did not like the whole episode. Sure it was better than anything else on TV, but somewhat of a "low" for Futurama. For some reason, I don't like episodes written by Michael Rowe.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #23 on: 11-29-2010 09:37 »

In "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela", the thing that annoyed me was at the end, when Fry pops out of the bushes and says "This looks like a good a place to take a dump".  The initial run has it's share of toilet humor, but it was usually something witty that made you giggle (ex - "The Lesser of Two Evils", when Leela asks what the old New York phone booths were used for, and Fry says "in New York, restrooms", and Leela says "I need to stop for a moment"); the line in IAGDL was out of place, out of character and was written to be crude.  IMO, further evidence of dumbing down.
Aki

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« Reply #24 on: 11-29-2010 10:35 »

Prop Infinity _is_ a good episode. Compared to Futurama in general however, it sucks. It's still good television.
Kryten

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« Reply #25 on: 11-30-2010 06:22 »

lol at anyone liking Prop Infinity.

Then I guess you have to lol at a whole bunch of us.

G'wan.

*glare*

LOL.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #26 on: 11-30-2010 06:43 »
« Last Edit on: 11-30-2010 06:55 »

I think it was the *glare* that got him.

One of the things that I'd like to hear from PEELers is their perceptions of how the new run differs from the old.  I was happy that it had returned, yet the new run didn't quite live up to what I was expecting; still better than almost anything else on TV, but not as good as it could have been.  For me, it's all about the writing & the dialog, which was great in spots (fit the characters perfectly) & weak in other spots (as if the writer didn't understand the character he/she was writing for).  What's your perception of the new vs. the old, and what could change to make it better?
Aki

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« Reply #27 on: 11-30-2010 10:45 »

I think the new season has been overall good, way over my expectations (which were pretty low). It has had some lows, yes, but that's to be expected. The really good episodes are _really_ good - I count The Late Philip J. Fry and The Prisoner of Benda some of my all time favorites. If it measures to the original run I don't know, but most episodes do. The problem is that the episodes that don't are quite a bit below the standard eps of the original run.
IntoTheWild BlueYonder
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« Reply #28 on: 12-02-2010 13:41 »

Other than Dan Vebber, Ken Keeler and Eric Rogers, are there any writers for the next part of season 6 known yet?
Dorsal Axe

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« Reply #29 on: 12-02-2010 18:39 »

Aaron Ehasz is writing "Benderama".
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #30 on: 12-03-2010 17:56 »

Josh Weinstein is writing "Law and Oracle".

May I ask where the info on the writers is from.
([-mArc-] found that info somewhere.)

I remember that someone mentioned that J. Stewart Burns was writing an episode on a freelance credit.   confused
Jezzem

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« Reply #31 on: 12-03-2010 18:08 »

J. Stewart Burns and David X. Cohen are the two phoniest writers in town.

What, I can't just go off topic to make an audio commentary reference for no reason? Ah, screw you all.
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #32 on: 12-03-2010 18:22 »

J. Stewart Burns and David X. Cohen are the two phoniest writers in town.

What, I can't just go off topic to make an audio commentary reference for no reason? Ah, screw you all.
No, no, no. No off-topic discussions here.  mad
Naah, "You're alright." smile
futurefreak

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« Reply #33 on: 12-25-2010 22:12 »

On the commentary they said because their budget was trimmed from a network budge like FOX that they had far less writers and had to have some of their old writers do some freelance work.
gthugball1n
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« Reply #34 on: 12-26-2010 11:02 »

I thought  A clock work origin.... was a great episode true to the original futurama.  Also the episode where everyone switches minds, because then they invite the globe trotters to do there algebra and the equation is solved by add two new variables to the equation,  big grin  i loved the whole season, the first episode had a bit to many sex jokes for futurama frown  for example "firing pocket rocket"...... seemed like they were pushing sex to much that episode. 
Aki

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« Reply #35 on: 12-26-2010 12:47 »

Rebirth had too many sex jokes? Sure you're not thinking of In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela?
Jarvio

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« Reply #36 on: 12-26-2010 12:57 »
« Last Edit on: 12-26-2010 12:59 »

My OCD has just kicked in, and now I feel the urge to briefly review each ep:

Rebirth: Was a good opener. A bit forgettable, but it did a good job of tying up loose ends, and it needed to be there. Had it's moments.

In-a-blah-blah-blah-blah: A meh episode. Not as bad as people make out, but still not great. Leela and Zapp were out of character.

Killer App: I strongly disliked this ep. One of the worst, and possibly in my bottom 3 of all time. I suppose it had some moments, but on a whole, it just all seemed a bit 'off' to me. Ending was stupid too, no closure whatsoever.

Prop Infinity: An alright ep. A bit forgettable in places, but it was a fairly strong ep with some good moments.

Duh-Vinci: This is where the series picked up for me. I thought this was a great episode. Interesting story. Memorable, and very funny. Liked the professor and fry's chemistry together. A very strong ep IMO.

Lethal Inspection: Kind of indifferent to this one. I liked it, but not overly. A bit overrated in my eyes, but a good episode nonetheless.

Late Philip J Fry: Brilliant. One of the best ever. Very strong storyline.

That Darn Katz: I f**king loved this ep! This was one of my favourites, and I'm not quite sure why it is so disliked. It was just a very fun ep, and also was cool to give Amy a storyline that didn't involve love interest / a relationship.

Clockwork Origin: Bloody loved this one too. Great storyline, and as always, great to have a professor-heavy ep. My 3rd favourite of the series (after prisoner and late philip j fry).

Prisoner of Benda: Best episode ever. Just perfect futurama from start to finish.

Lrrr Differences: Weak. Just weak. Story felt uninspired, and Lrr, whilst a good character, should not have an episode centred around him. I suppose there was no harm in trying though. Oh wait, there was...

Mutants Are Revolting: This was another ep that I was kind of indifferent to, and found slightly overrated. Don't get me wrong, good ep, with good moments - but just not one of the best. Somewhere in the middle for me.

Xmas Spectacular: This is THE worst futurama episode ever! It was NOT FUNNY. It was POINTLESS. The songs were random and stupid. But yeah, the main issue is, NOT FUNNY. Out of all 101 episodes, this for me ranks rock bottom. What were they thinking?
GreyThinkyWhale

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« Reply #37 on: 12-27-2010 06:16 »

Wow. I saved the holiday special for Xmas day, and loved it, so I'm surprised by the overwhelming negative response here. Especially considering I was so down on the rest of the season (aside from Late Philip Fry) compared to everyone else. "Hohoho, everyone's dead" when up until then I thought it was canon, "Don't worry, the Futurama crew: Leela, Bender, and me, Al Gore, will be back", "Gunderson's Nuts"... It was such a fun episode. I had low expectations and the songs weren't very good and I was watching with friends on Xmas so I was in a pretty good mood, but now I'm just second-guessing myself. I laughed throughout and I'd say it's my second favourite episode of the season for sure.
Jezzem

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« Reply #38 on: 12-27-2010 10:50 »

Yeah, I don't get the hate for the Holiday Spectacular either. I mean, I can understand people not liking it that much, but there seems to be a lot of "THAT WAS THE WORST THING OF ANYTHING EVER! SOMEONE KILL THE WRITERS! I'M SO FUCKING ANGRY FOR NO REASON!" Going on, even though there were worse episodes (in the original series and in Season 6) than this one. Maybe lots of people were expecting a more regular Christmas episode type of thing rather than a non-canon Anthology of Interest thing, I don't know.

What other people think of episodes doesn't really bother me that much, it just seems like lots of people are really overreacting.
CommanderZapp

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« Reply #39 on: 12-27-2010 23:04 »

What other people think of episodes doesn't really bother me that much, it just seems like lots of people are really overreacting.
Actually... I haven't seen anyone being "so" aggressive on that matter.
(I must be blind...)
I did not approve of the episode because I'm thinking that "they" could make a better episode. (Well, it was still better than anything else on TV...)

Yes, perhaps some overreacting...
But I was among those expecting a "real" Xmas episode.

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