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Impossible

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« on: 04-26-2002 13:37 »

In the UK, Futurama was shown before the watershed ~ can anyone tell me which scenes they deleted out of the episodes? I read that they deleted one scene out of "I Second That Emotion" cos it contained the word "Virgin" or something like that.   confused

By the way ~ I'm new and this is a cool message board! Catch you later!
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« Reply #1 on: 04-26-2002 13:43 »

Welcome to PEEL, Impossible!
Impossible

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« Reply #2 on: 04-26-2002 13:47 »

Why thank you! I was gonna say I got a quick reply!  smile
Mike!

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« Reply #3 on: 04-26-2002 13:53 »

From what I've seen of Futurama on Channel 4, not an episode goes by without cuts.  For example, in today's episode, 'Mother's Day', Mom's bad language was cut, plus some references to her getting it on with the Professor (although they did show his naked behind, which surprised me).  Another running gag I've noticed which has been cut includes any references to Leela and Zapp sleeping together, such as Bender's 'was that before or after you slept with him?' type lines.
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« Reply #4 on: 04-26-2002 13:57 »

I'm surprised anything gets left in.
Impossible

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« Reply #5 on: 04-26-2002 14:06 »

wish C4 would show it after 9pm so i could see the whole ep.  frown
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #6 on: 04-26-2002 14:33 »

Welcome to PEEL Impossible, unfortunately lots of stuff gets cut on C4. Sometimes it can be a good thing though, like some of the more unnecessary  scenes between Fry and M Proctor in "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back".
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« Reply #7 on: 04-27-2002 04:38 »

mmm i can see your point there.  smile
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« Reply #8 on: 04-27-2002 04:41 »

 
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Welcome to PEEL Impossible, unfortunately lots of stuff gets cut on C4. Sometimes it can be a good thing though, like some of the more unnecessary  scenes between Fry and M Proctor in "How Hermes Requisitioned His Groove Back".

Not forgetting the almost total anniahlation of "A Flight To Remember", although their best cock-up was from "Love's Labors", when the cut the bit out where Bender mentions using the fork to pull someone's eye out, and then bit later on, they left that reference in, when Bender hands the fork to Leela and winks.

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« Reply #9 on: 04-27-2002 04:46 »

And i have a feeling in "A Bicyclops Built For Two" (or however u spell it), they cut out the bit in the chatroom with Bender dressing up as a nurse or Napoleon, but I wouldnt know cos i never saw that bit.  frown
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« Reply #10 on: 04-27-2002 04:52 »

Any swearing gets cut too, you never hear "bastard" on the C4 versions, even Sky sometimes cut that word out. C4 go too far though like cutting "ass" out most of the time, and even "sperm" in "Fry & The Slurm Facotry".
Impossible

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« Reply #11 on: 04-27-2002 05:06 »

They cut out "Virgin"!! But BBC2 also cut "bastard" out as well on the Simpsons.
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« Reply #12 on: 04-27-2002 05:31 »

I don't know why they don't put it on after the watershed, C4 prides itself on showing films uncut yet mutilates shows like Futurama, if they want the younger audience to watch they could show it twice, once in the morning/early evening and once at night, BBC2 does that with Buffy.
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« Reply #13 on: 04-27-2002 05:37 »

I agree! Cos with The Simpsons they only cut out a little bit, such as in one ep where Krusty said "Tell me where you are now, you bastard!", I saw this on one of the videos u can buy. But yet C4 don't cut out "Bastard" from Friends, probably because it's shown at 10pm (but sometimes at 6pm). Prehaps in the USA "bastard" isnt really considered a bad insult (but i dont know!) but in UK its very offensive. But I dont know.  frown
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« Reply #14 on: 04-27-2002 06:12 »
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Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
Any swearing gets cut too.

/me chases after C4 execs wielding AstroZombie's claymore.


Argh misread Any for Amy, eesch need another coffee and quick.
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« Reply #15 on: 04-27-2002 08:19 »

The length of a Bicyclops built for (without ad breaks) is around 22-23 minutes. When C4 showed it the other day, it ran for around 18 minutes. There were humungous cuts. I only know this because I am forced to download them.

I think the only ep that had no cuts was How Hermes Recquistioned His Groove Back. I didnt notice any at least.
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #16 on: 04-27-2002 16:35 »

 
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Originally posted by ^Raven^:
I think the only ep that had no cuts was How Hermes Recquistioned His Groove Back. I didnt notice any at least.

Didn't notice my post further up either then roll eyes
Archie2K

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« Reply #17 on: 04-30-2002 13:59 »

On teh subject of the Simpsons, Too Hot for TV features Nudity, Firearms, Prostitutes, a bloke dead in a swimming pool (Cartridge Family and The one where Homer and Marge get it on in the golf windmill and run naked thru springfield) and that is a PG rating (anyone can buy it but it may be unsuitable for children). Then the Greatest Hits featured only the word w*nkers and that was given a 12 rating. Sky censored the word wankers because in America they dont know what it means  wink

The funniest episodes to watch on C4 were probably Hell is Other Robots because they cut soooo much. They cut the word stoned and jacking on almost every time. They censored Fender jacking on so all you saw was him insert the plug, then a strange jump in time and him taking it out again, and then bizarrely they showed Benders whole electricity trip with the eel etc. The whole thing made hilarious viewing.

What I don't understand is why UK channels give such early times to lots of programs which are intended for a 'mature' audience. The Simpsons comes on BBC2 at 6pm, Buffy often comes on at 6pm too. Futurama was on at 8.30am every morning for the past couple of weeks and I videod every single one. Something to look forward to when getting back off college eh! Stuff like Eastenders also features fights and sex and they call each other slags every episode and that is on at 7.30 (or 8.00, cant remember). There doesn't seem to be any sort of watershed any more. Its good though.

All TV stations seem to be very reluctant to put any cartoons on after about 8pm because they think because its animated it must be for kids. Friends is on at 9 or 10 and that has about the same level of references and violence as futurama (and the videos both got rated 12).
Archie2K

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« Reply #18 on: 04-30-2002 14:01 »

I know this is a little OT, but does anyone here live in or around the Reading area?
Archie2K

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« Reply #19 on: 04-30-2002 14:13 »

Oh I just remembered the cut the porno chatrooms from Bicyclops. I think that existed, I hope I didnt just make that up!! wink

They also cut the best joke from Brannigan Begins Aain when Brannigan says "Who in this room did you sleep with? Point to the man" [leela points at Zapp] "and his name?" Leela:"Zapp Brannigan".

Instead Zapp says "We've met before haven't we -- point to the man". By the way are C4 showing Futurama at all. I didn't get into it until recently so I haven't seen many eps from season 2 or 3. If not, are Sky going to show older repeats once the new eps are finished. Anyone know?? Anything?!
Impossible

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« Reply #20 on: 04-30-2002 14:35 »

RE: Eastenders - every single episode now mentions the word "BITCH" at least once and its usually at Janine. Mmmm. My anger goes to Channel 4 for cutting so much out of all the episodes. I'm gonna get the box set so i can actually see all the full episodes in series 1. did they cut anything out of "Space Pilot 3000"? Channel 4 don't seem to cut "bastard" out of Friends. I know BBC2 cut it of the Simpsons.
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« Reply #21 on: 04-30-2002 14:38 »

Space Pilot 3000 might have escaped uncut as it was first shown after the watershed, actually as I recall it was shown after the only episode of South Park to be given an 18 certificate by the BBFC.
newDeliveryBoy

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« Reply #22 on: 05-01-2002 12:12 »

heh, I'd like to see the UK version of the SP episode "Proper Condom Use". I thought it's kinda like, uh...   eek

Anyway, it's weird how in Europe everything beginning with news down to media and even the Internet get censored, but all countries have "freedom of speech" in their constitution...

eh, I know what a "wanker" is, or is it something else in the UK?

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« Reply #23 on: 05-01-2002 12:22 »

Futurama is only cut as it's on before the watershed so SP wont be affected as it's on WAYYYY later and i don't think we're up to that one either.
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« Reply #24 on: 05-01-2002 12:38 »

I was only refering to that one episode (Space Pilot 3000), which was shown after SP.

Proper Condom Use hasn't been on C4 yet, I think it should be on next week, if they are in the correct order, It is highly unlikely to be cut, just about anything is allowed after 9pm. UK TV is far less heavily censored than US TV.
newDeliveryBoy

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« Reply #25 on: 05-01-2002 13:42 »

...US TV is censored??
(I don't really watch TV)
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« Reply #26 on: 05-01-2002 14:09 »

 
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Originally posted by Impossible:
But BBC2 also cut "bastard" out as well on the Simpsons.

It's funny that that word is less offensive in America, you used to get Americans using it on The Big Breakfast and such like.

The Beeb keep it in when it's written, though, like the "Li'l Bastard Travelling Kit" and the "Li'l Bastard Clock Tampering Kit".

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« Reply #27 on: 05-01-2002 14:47 »

 
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Originally posted by newDeliveryBoy:
...US TV is censored??
(I don't really watch TV)
I thought there was a list of words that couldn't be used on US network TV, When Reservoir Dogs got its network premier here there was an introductory programme about it and the film's makers seemed pretty amazed that it was getting shown uncut on network TV
Heliotrope

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« Reply #28 on: 05-01-2002 15:01 »

I watch Futurama on Skyone and they never seem to cut out anything in the episodes i've seen.
Including Mums swearing in "Mothers day"
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #29 on: 05-01-2002 15:11 »

Sky One does sometimes cut Futurama, but thankfully not very much at all. Normally if they do cut it, it's usually during the daytime.
Archie2K

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« Reply #30 on: 05-01-2002 17:16 »

When I was referring to the w*nker word I was going by what someone had actually told me. It may be the same in both countries, but it does seem strange that The Simpsons would use such an offensive word on one of its shows.

And it is true that UK TV doesnt censor much at all now.

What baffles me is how the C4 censorers are so bad at their job. Often the cuts are really obvious even if you dont know how the episode goes very well. The lip movements are all out of sync and the beginning of censored words are often uttered. Still I would rather take a cut down version of a great show than nothing at all.
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« Reply #31 on: 05-01-2002 18:11 »

Raised on a diet of Monty Python, The Young Ones, I Claudius, Fawlty Towers, and so on, I was under the mistaken impression that British Telly was NEVER censored. Gore and titties everywhere! And yet, almost all horror movies were rated "X"...

US network TV is censored as well, of course. A lot of raunchier stuff that appeared in the shows above would never show up on ABC, CBS, NBC (well maybe NBC) or even FOX, but PBS and MTV had no problem with it.

Movies on network TV are edited for gore, nudity and cursing. (I was astonished that ABC ran Armaggedon the other night, but not surprisingly they slashed key shots out of the New York sequence. USA Networks, on the other hand, was chomping at the bit to run Arlington Road--a sensationalistic borefest about domestic terrorists successfully blowing up a law-enforcement building--over and over again.) But cursing is usually edited by substituting a cleaner word for the nasty one--"Forget you!" instead of "F*** you!"--or bleeping the nasty out--rather than cutting the scene completely. (In fact, most studios do the editing themselves now, planned in advance with TV airings in mind. They shoot "clean" sex and violence scenes, and record the actor saying the cleaner word for later substitution.) Too bad C4 can't figure this out...but they seem to be largely operating on the "Cartoons? Why, cartoon are for kiddies!" philosophy...
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« Reply #32 on: 05-01-2002 18:49 »

US network TV is *heavily* censored, especially for language. Sex and violence seem to be getting through a lot more these days  wink but naughty words - oooooh, the horror!

I watched Die Hard on (I think) NBC in the States a few years back, and it was so cut I barely recognised it!

Certainly, what C4 in particular (BBC 2 to a lesser extent) gets away with after 9pm would stun US viewers. Even at 11pm or whenever, I can't imagine Letterman letting his guests launch into a tirade of obscenities or doing segments about giant papier-mache cocks like Graham Norton does. Mind you, I can't imagine Letterman coming out with as many flagrantly gay innuendoes as Graham Norton either  wink

Unfortunately, before 9pm they're just as prudish as anyone...  frown
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« Reply #33 on: 05-02-2002 03:32 »

Pity Sky seems to have 'cut' the whole of 'A Tale Of Two Santas'.   mad
newDeliveryBoy

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« Reply #34 on: 05-02-2002 05:33 »

Well, apparently there's different definitions of censoring in here. You can't say the f word, the s word and the word that comes before roach (maybe among others?) on network TV, and nudity and violence have to limited to some degree as well (the former a lot, the latter barely at all...)
However, shows produced for TV like Futurama or SP are produced in a way they can be shown as they are (like in SP the nasty words get beeped over in a way you still know what was said) so there's no actual censoring necessary. The only "censoring" that's going on is when shows are aired during daytime (which is pretty useless in an ago of VCR's, IMO) or music channels editing out stuff (like the chick puking in that Metallica clip or some guy giving the finger in some other clip I don't remember).

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« Reply #35 on: 05-02-2002 05:36 »

 
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Originally posted by payndz:
 but naughty words - oooooh, the horror!

remember: horrific deployable violence is O.K. as long as no one says any nasty woids! This is what this war is all about!!


"Space, it seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you."
Impossible

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« Reply #36 on: 05-02-2002 13:51 »

BBC2 didn't cut "Pissed off" out of the Simpsons ep where Homer joins the freak show thingy. Mmmm.
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« Reply #37 on: 05-02-2002 14:44 »

 
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Originally posted by Mike!:
Pity Sky seems to have 'cut' the whole of 'A Tale Of Two Santas'.    mad

I wouldn't worry about it, it will probably air at the end of the season. There is a thread all about this with more info smile

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« Reply #38 on: 05-02-2002 16:16 »

Really? I hope it's true.  I don't open threads about episodes I haven't seen, so I've not read that.
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« Reply #39 on: 05-03-2002 07:46 »

 
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Originally posted by Archie2K:
What baffles me is how the C4 censorers are so bad at their job.

The "funniest" was in 'The Deep South' when they cut out "ass" but left in "suppository".  Hmmmm, which would you rather hear about - the ass or something you stick up your ass?

But then they let "ass" pass later in the episode! Maybe they're only allowed one "ass" per episode.

In my opinion, the Channel 4 censors are all asses!   big grin

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