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« Reply #80 on: 04-24-2002 10:25 »
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And a slow one at that

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« Reply #81 on: 04-24-2002 10:38 »

Shoot, I hate parallel threads.  Maybe you should take your thread transporter and attempt to reintegrate the two threads like they did to Kirk in that episode with...argh!  Not again!  Must...keep...inner...geek... hidden...
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« Reply #82 on: 04-24-2002 11:28 »

OH...YOUR...GOD!!!  eek This one came late, but it shot right into the top-3 of this season. I'm not entirely sure how to rate it compared to "Roswell" and "Leela's Homeworld", but this was one of the best episodes of the series so far. Damn, now I have to change my top-10. Again.

I never was that big a fan of the original series (I'm more of a DS9 nerd), but all the jokes clicked, the pace was fast, the animation was stellar, it was perfect.

About the only thing I didn't like was the abscent of the rest of the PE staff. Zoidy's little cameo was nice, but we need more group interaction.

Nice that they included DeForest Kelley. I wish he had had the oppurtunity to participate. It would've fit nicely, right after Welshye was killed:

Kelley: "He is dead, Bill."
Shatner: "Well, d'uh, I can see that myself. This isn't a stupid show, Bones. I mean, DeForest."

Okay onto the things I did like, but where to start. I liked it all.

Walter Koening's attitude toward ST, "Say Vessels approaching. NO!"

Nimoy's attitude in the Head Museum: "I'm not Spock/I'm Spock", anyone?

Jonathan Frakes cameo "Yes! Front row"!  laff I almost broke a rib laughing at that sentence. Don't ask me, I just found it incredibly funny.

All the jabs on the Trekkers/nerds/ST and sci-fi fans. Hey, I'm not offended, I'm honoured.

I loved hearing Leela spout technobabble.  love

When Leela kicked the crap out of Shatner I was positively cheering. I guess she finally saw the similarities with a certain DOOP captain, eh? And then the make out scene. Yeah, you could see it coming (if you had just an ounce of knowledge about ST:TOS), but still very nice. They just needed to curl her tanktop up a few more inches.  wink

Spock trying the Vulcan Neck Pinch on Bender "Let's see if this actually works."

The way George Takei spoke, there is just something incredibly funny about that.

Welshey getting toasted, again and again and again. Like the rest of you, I just pictured me his name as Whesleyevil laugh

Bender's self destruct mechanism. "Thanks alot, now everybody knows".

Tha caterpillar bow, particularly when Fry tried it.

In short, to cite Nix,was there any part of this episode that didn't rock? [Farnsworth/Koeing]NO![/F/K]

Okay, if you don't like Trek, or have been living under a rock for the last 35 years (read: don't have a clue as to what Star Trek is) there might be some meh-moments but still this episode would rock.

Rating: Solid 10/10.

Don't confuse not caring with not knowing!
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« Reply #83 on: 04-24-2002 14:31 »

 
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"Say Vessels approaching. NO!"

As an avid ST4 fan, I'm going to have to correct this.

Fry: Now say, "Nuclear wessels!"
Koening: NO!

I have a thousand years of power.
"NOOOOO HE WAS MY BROTHER!" and then got tired and slept.


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« Reply #84 on: 04-25-2002 18:54 »

Wait a minute... if Star Trek is forbidden, how come in "I Dated A Robot", we see nerds chatting about the old Star Trek vs. the new Star Trek? I mean, what are we to believe, that this is some sort of (snort) magic mass amnesia?
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« Reply #85 on: 04-25-2002 18:56 »

It's the internet - all sorts of illegal stuff goes on in there
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« Reply #86 on: 04-25-2002 19:20 »
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what star trek episode did Nicoles did that fan dance?

it's a good scene I never know bender have a thing to her

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« Reply #87 on: 04-25-2002 19:26 »

She does the fan-dance in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.
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« Reply #88 on: 04-25-2002 20:26 »
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It's difficult to see, but it is suggested that she does it totally starkers, too--while her aging crewmates watch from behind. Also: she's putting more things into Scotty's mouth than just MRE-popcorn. Even non-Trekkies should see Star Trek V: The Final Frontier at least once--it will redefine "crapfest" for you in ways Joe Eszterhas can only dream of, yet it bears a closer resemblance to Star Trek TOS than Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home does.
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« Reply #89 on: 04-25-2002 21:08 »

I used to thing TOS was great...until I saw TNG (except the first season) and what Star Trek was like with GOOD actors.  STV:TFF was almost as bad as ST:TMP.
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« Reply #90 on: 04-25-2002 21:54 »

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    Originally posted by BrainSluggo:
    It's difficult to see, but it is suggested that she does it totally starkers, too--while her aging crewmates watch from behind. Also: she's putting more things into Scotty's mouth than just MRE-popcorn. Even non-Trekkies should see Star Trek V: The Final Frontier at least once--it will redefine "crapfest" for you in ways Joe Eszterhas can only dream of, yet it bears a closer resemblance to Star Trek TOS than Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home does.

    It was worth watching at least once. It had:

    • A crazy Vulcan
    • The triple-breasted cat-chick
    • The fattest Klingon I've ever seen

    On the other hand, it had Uhura's fan-dance (thirty years ago, this would've been sweet, but not these days), Scotty doing a pratfall so lame that it would make Jerry Lewis blush, and -- and this is the worst of all -- Kirk, Spock, and Bones singing "Row, Row, Row Your Boat".  puke  puke  puke
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    « Reply #91 on: 04-25-2002 23:50 »

    Well, all ST movies are worth at least one watch. But with regards to ST V that's all, never had the courage the rewatch that horror again.

    On another note: Does Takei really talk like that? Or is he just mocking his speech from TOS or something?

    He did speak that way too in a "Muppets Tonight" he was in a few years back.
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    « Reply #92 on: 04-26-2002 00:02 »

    I saw an interview he did, and he sounds that way in real life, though not as pronounced as on TV. Him and Nichelle Nichols have aged well compared to the rest of the cast.
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    « Reply #93 on: 04-26-2002 07:20 »

    STTFF was horrible, but it was a Shatner film, right? But it does have a great moment, when Kirk hugs Spock on the Bridge of the Klingon Bird of Prey and Spock says: "Captain, not before the Klingons."
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    « Reply #94 on: 04-26-2002 19:57 »

    Wait... wait.  So, there are Futurama fans that haven't seen all of Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation?   How is that possible?  I mean, it's cool and all.  I just can't seem to wrap my brain around that.  I mean, I just assumed...

    But all of you watched Babylon 5, right?  Right?
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    « Reply #95 on: 04-26-2002 20:58 »

    Matt Groening himself has admitted on the commentary tracks that he has never seen Star Trek.
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    « Reply #96 on: 04-27-2002 04:12 »

    Do you suppose they let Shatner watch Zapp's karaoke of Lola/Leela from "Amazon Women In The Mood" before they had him do Slim Shady?  Or that they showed Shatner any of Zapp's scenes at all?  I mean, c'mon, Zapp Branigan *is* Kirk after all.

    I was kind of hoping for more interaction between those two.  Perhaps a comparison of... erotic captain's logs?

    And perhaps Kif and Nimoy - or Koenig - commiserating.

    Still a great episode though.
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    « Reply #97 on: 04-27-2002 04:51 »

    Aw Gawd, Kirk vs. Zapp, a terrifying idea--would it have been too close to the Kirk vs. Fake Kirk bit from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?

    "...I can't believe I kissed you."
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    « Reply #98 on: 04-27-2002 08:56 »

     
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    Wait... wait.  So, there are Futurama fans that haven't seen all of Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation?   How is that possible?  I mean, it's cool and all.  I just can't seem to wrap my brain around that.  I mean, I just assumed...

    But all of you watched Babylon 5, right?  Right?

    sit down for this one Timo:  I've never seen an entire episode of any Star Trek and I've never seen ANY Babylon 5!  laff
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    « Reply #99 on: 04-27-2002 09:00 »
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    One hell of a B5 nut.  Loved it to bits, got all the vids, including the pilot and the follow up series Crusade.

    One ep, is gonna help me with a section of a fic I've started and done a FOX, and put it on hiatus, called Mission : Invisible.
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    « Reply #100 on: 04-27-2002 09:23 »
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    OK, you've got the better of me. What the hell does TOS stand for! TOS this, TOS that! Can someone please explain!?

    Not that I give a TOSs or anything...   tongue
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    « Reply #101 on: 04-27-2002 09:34 »

    TOS = Star Trek, The Original Series (ie. the ones with Kirk, Spock etc)
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    « Reply #102 on: 04-27-2002 09:40 »

    Oh, I see. Thanks Teral.

    Forgive me for my ignorance, my experience of Star Trek is about equal to that of VF's.
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    « Reply #103 on: 04-27-2002 10:47 »

     
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    Oh, I see. Thanks Teral.

    Forgive me for my ignorance, my experience of Star Trek is about equal to that of VF's.

    TOS - as Teral put
    TNH - Star Trek : The Next Generation
    DS9 - Star Trek : Deep Space 9 *shudder*

    Don't think there are short cuts for Voyager or Enterprise.

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    « Reply #104 on: 04-27-2002 13:43 »

     
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    One hell of a B5 nut.  Loved it to bits, got all the vids, including the pilot and the follow up series Crusade.

    Oh good.  It's great to have people with a wide variety of backgrounds bringing different perspectives to the table, but it's nice to have someone to relate to as well.

    I also have all of B5 on tape, except for my least favorite ep.  Got Crusade and Legend of the Rangers as well.
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    « Reply #105 on: 04-27-2002 14:03 »

     
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     Oh good.  It's great to have people with a wide variety of backgrounds bringing different perspectives to the table, but it's nice to have someone to relate to as well.

    I also have all of B5 on tape, except for my least favorite ep.  Got Crusade and Legend of the Rangers as well.

    I've seen Legend Of The Rangers on TV, although I haven't seen a video/DVD relase for it yet.

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    « Reply #106 on: 04-27-2002 15:22 »

    I loved the scene where Fry took Leonard Nimoy's head and Jonathan Frakes head appears.

    "Yes! Front Row!"  big grin
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    « Reply #107 on: 04-27-2002 16:53 »
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    TOS - as Teral put
    TNH - Star Trek : The Next Generation
    DS9 - Star Trek : Deep Space 9 *shudder*

    Don't think there are short cuts for Voyager or Enterprise.

    Usually, it's:
    ST:TOS - The Original Series
    ST:TAS - The Animated Series
    ST:TNG - The Next Generation
    ST:DS9 - Deep Space Nine
    ST:V - Voyager
    ST:E - Enterprise
    ST:TMP - Star Trek: The Motion Picture
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    « Reply #108 on: 04-27-2002 17:46 »

    Did anyone else notice Deforest (or whatever) was in this episode, just without lines? It took me three viewings to figure it out. I loved it... But it should've been the series finale. It concentrated on Fry, Leela, and Bender, it had the line "Another Sci Fi series canceled before its time", and it had Melllvar saying "Because... I don't know what I'd do without them" and Fry saying "You can't base your on a TV show". Also Fry said "And it made me feel like I had friends, even when I didn't", which reminded me of a time when I really didn't have any friends and I would watch Futurama and it really did make me feel like Fry and Bender and Leela were real people who were my friends. I used to laugh so hard at the label at the begining of the Cryonic Woman (I think) that said "Not a Substitute for Human Interaction", because that was exactly what I was using it for... I'll miss you, Futurama...
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    « Reply #109 on: 04-27-2002 17:48 »

    Deforest doesn't have any lines because he died in 1999 of stomach cancer. Deforest was a great addition to the Star Trek Crew and i hate it he's dead.
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    « Reply #110 on: 04-28-2002 07:54 »

     
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      I could be wrong, but I think that ship comes from the show Space 1999.  I think.

    Good episode.  I liked the fanscript gag and Fry making a bow and arrow out of catipillars.

    Edit:  I knew I've seen that ship somewhere.  If you go to Amazon.com and search for Space 1999 under DVD, you'll come across the boxsets.  There's a picture of that ship in the upper corner of the DVD season 1 set.


    Indeed it 's from Space 1999.  Sorry but this is the best pic I could get:
     http://www.sfrevu.com/2001/9973%20Space%201999/eagle1.jpg

    And the blue ship from Melllvar looked a bit like a Klingon Bird of Prey, or an early Romulan ship.
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    « Reply #111 on: 04-28-2002 12:34 »

    A few other times in which Star Trek was mentioned and nothing happened:

    Space Pilot 3000 - Fry says "Cool! Just like on Star Trek!" of the doors before one hits him in the face

    Loves Labours Lost in Space (I think) - Hermes describes DOOP as "Like the Federation of your Star Trek".

    ~Bummin'~
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    « Reply #112 on: 04-28-2002 19:08 »
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    Anti-nits: I think the cryo-building might have an exemption to that law. Noone can expect newly defrosted people to know about that law, and it shouldn't be held against them if they by accident said the words.

    About Hermes, he's a bureaucrat. Those people are normally above the law. Maybe he has some dirt on someone, and thus feels save.

    Okay, I'm done taking this topic waaaaay too serious.   laff

    Edit: corrected a Nurdbot-like use of grammar.
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    « Reply #113 on: 05-02-2002 21:19 »
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    This maybe a little contraversial but I think this is the best episode yet. I never watched Star Trek beyond TOS but the jokes were spot on. I laughed so hard I had to watch it several times to hear them all.
    I am now going to watch it again so the jokes sink in.
    ...and that picture of Kiff at the end  laff priceless.
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    « Reply #114 on: 05-10-2002 03:15 »

    Just reviewed the episode and really cracked up when Spock tried to use his nerve pinch on Bender.  Funny, Funny, Stuff.
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    « Reply #115 on: 05-14-2002 10:41 »

    I loved it, this is amongst the best episodes of Futurama, even though most of the crew weren't in it. The spoofing of Star Trek was spot on.
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    « Reply #116 on: 05-15-2002 16:50 »

    It was really good, even though im not _really_ a trekker and didnt understand half of the jokes in it. But i do not believe it was _the_ best of season 4, id go with love & rocket anytime for that.

    The thing i cant help but be in awe at is the fact that they actually got all (nearly) the original cast to voice as themselves!
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    « Reply #117 on: 05-18-2002 10:33 »

    Right on Delta V!!!!  big grin
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    « Reply #118 on: 06-23-2002 14:34 »

    I have had the advantage of watching a couple of Season 2 eps before seeing this, and WNFHGB is definately a VAST improvement on a decidedly average episodes of past weeks, but it doesn't quite have the same edge as those from season 2.

    Leela finally 'enjoying' herself, Leela talking techno babble, Bender was actually humerous for once, and the Melllvar constantly hitting the welsh guy with lightning were all high points. This episode may've just been a bit too Trekky for me, since I dont watch Star Trek, but it was solid and Leela running out of the court-marshall had LOL. Unfortunately I just don't see Fry as a Trekky, and I found him a bit too moral at times.

    Overall, very solid. There is hope for Season 5!
    4/5
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    « Reply #119 on: 06-23-2002 15:06 »

    Fry not being Trekkie? He has talked about Star Trek several times, starting with Space Pilot 3000 when me sees the sliding doors and meets Leonard Nimoy. Granted it might have made more sense if he was a TNG trekkie.
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