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Juliet

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« Reply #120 on: 06-23-2002 17:46 »

that episode kick ass :laff:

hey did anybody saw The Simpsons after that?
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« Reply #121 on: 06-23-2002 17:56 »

Hmmmm, this episode is kinda hard for me to rate. After all of the hype I was expecting more, but I was disappointed. I’m not a trekkie, I’ve never even watched a single full episode of any Star Trek series in my life. I expect pretty much every trekkie joke went over my head. I still enjoyed the episode, and I loved the animation, especially the scenes of the P.E Ship crashing. Bender had a lot of really cool moments, and I liked the way everyone stayed in character, had good lines and were funny throughout. I missed the other members of the P.E crew, especially Professor Farnsworth, but I guess this episode was all right, but it wasn’t great either. I enjoyed it more the second time :)
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« Reply #122 on: 06-24-2002 02:08 »

I thought  it was ok, but everyone said it was brill and it was not that good
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« Reply #123 on: 06-24-2002 04:14 »

I thought it was one of the best of the season. I'm not a trekkie but I got most of the in-jokes that were on the show. And Shatner singing an Eminem rap! Sooooo funny.

Has anyone heard Fat-Boy-Shatner's other stuff. 'Lucy In the Sky with Diamonds' and 'Mr. Tamborine Man' stand out as particually disturbing!
PCC Fred

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« Reply #124 on: 06-24-2002 12:59 »

 
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Originally posted by Delta-V:
   Usually, it's:
ST:TOS - The Original Series
ST:TAS - The Animated Series
ST:TNG - The Next Generation
ST :DS9 - Deep Space Nine
ST:V - Voyager
ST:E - Enterprise
ST:TMP - Star Trek: The Motion Picture

ST:VOY for Voyager, I've only ever seen Enterprise called Enterprise.  I doubt it would have a "ST:" in front of it, because "Star Trek" isn't in the title.

And Welshie's line was just gibberish. (so they did use fluent Welsh!)  :D
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« Reply #125 on: 06-24-2002 13:48 »

Great episode, Melllvar was cool and when his mom turned up with the glasses on:   :laff:
He kept reminding me of Lrr though, I was expecting him to turn into Lrr and say that he only saw TOS cos he livesso far away on Omicron Persei 8.
But that would be downright nutty.  :p

Yeah, it's a pity the others weren't with them, wanted to see some Zoidberg-Scottie interaction but alas!!
Did Scottie die too?
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« Reply #126 on: 06-24-2002 16:36 »

I have to admit that where 'Star Trek' is concerned, my knowledge is limited to two or three episodes of 'The Next Generation' and 'Voyager', and that's about it. Therefore, it came as no surprise to me that most of the stuff in this episode went completely over my head. I think the only Trekkie joke that I got out of the whole episode was about the Vulcan death grip, or whatever it's called, and that's about it. Really. Unfortunately, as the episode was practically made up of only Star Trek jokes, I can't say I really enjoyed it.

Of course, there were some good bits. Zapp may not have been anywhere near up to his classic self, but I loved his 'double yes!' line. The funniest bit in the episode, though, was Shatner's take on 'The Real Slim Shady', even though I had no idea what it was supposed to be a reference to. How could anyone watch that part and not laugh?  :D Bender's machine gun gag was good as well, as was his head blowing up.  :laff:

Am I the only one who couldn't stop thinking of the giant brain spawn when Melllvar spoke?

As for the rest, well, I'm sure that I would have enjoyed it a lot more if I was a 'Star Trk' fan, but like most season four episodes, there was still something missing that made past episodes so great. I really, really hope that season four was just the 'reject episodes' from season three, and that season five will return on top form.

One final note - the Top 2 'Star Trek' jokes of the series are still 'Spock! Do the thing! - 'I don't do that any more', and 'Like the Federation in ya Star Trek programme'.
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« Reply #127 on: 06-24-2002 17:49 »

 
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Originally posted by ~FazeShift~:
Great episode, Melllvar was cool and when his mom turned up with the glasses on:    :laff:
He kept reminding me of Lrr though, I was expecting him to turn into Lrr and say that he only saw TOS cos he livesso far away on Omicron Persei 8.
But that would be downright nutty.   :p

Yeah, it's a pity the others weren't with them, wanted to see some Zoidberg-Scottie interaction but alas!!
Did Scottie die too?


James Doohan, who plays "Scotty" was seriously ill recently, and I think that's why he wasn't able to appear.
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« Reply #128 on: 06-24-2002 18:32 »
« Last Edit on: 06-24-2002 18:32 »

That's probably the main reason, Of course the fact that James Doohan really, really doesn't like Shatner might also have a say in it. When Doohan was a sill as he was putting him together with Shatner might be counterproductive in regards to his health.


Edit: and look how gracefully I resisted to explain the Star Trek jokes. Of course I am in a hurry, so maybe tomorrow.  :p
PCC Fred

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« Reply #129 on: 06-24-2002 18:39 »

Anyway, it's about time I reviewed this episode.

I found the episode really funny, mainly because I understand all the Star Trek references.

Just one thing was missing: Zapp should have faced off against Shatner at some point.  Now THAT would have been funny.

I like the bit where Bender asks "If we really hate Star Trek, can we leave?", and Walter Koenig goes "Yeah!"
Zed 85

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« Reply #130 on: 06-26-2002 10:46 »

 
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Originally posted by Teral:
That's probably the main reason, Of course the fact that James Doohan really, really doesn't like Shatner might also have a say in it. When Doohan was a sill as he was putting him together with Shatner might be counterproductive in regards to his health.


Edit: and look how gracefully I resisted to explain the Star Trek jokes. Of course I am in a hurry, so maybe tomorrow.   :p

Shatner: Can you remember the episode where I threw my shoe at the enemy?
Nimoy: You mean Doohan?
*both chuckle and give each other high-fives*

That one makes more sence now...

I loved this episode - I'm more of a Star Wars fan but I got most of the jokes and I loved Koening especially when everyone keeps asking him to do it in Russain and say Wessels.  :laff:

I also quite liked the trivia bit when Leela asks who Kirk marooned of Simi-Alpha 5 (or something) and Shatner shouts "KKKKHHHAAAAANNNN!!!!!!!" just like he did in the film.  :D

9.8/10 (downer is lack of Amy, Hermes and Professor and should have had more Zoidberg/Kif lines)
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« Reply #131 on: 06-26-2002 17:28 »

The caterpillars on Fry were genious.  Whoever thought that joke up deserves a beer.
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« Reply #132 on: 06-26-2002 18:45 »

Im quite surprised by this. I have never seen an episode of Star Trek in my life. I had no idea who the characters were, yet I still thought this episode was great. It was just smooth, and seemed to have some point to it, not like the last 4 or 5 episodes. Quite a lot of the jokes were non-trekkie too, or at least were amusing even if you werent a trekkie. But alas everyone has their own opinion.
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« Reply #133 on: 06-26-2002 22:25 »


I liked the bit at the end where the Star Trek cast show there fear of being stuck with a trekkie geek for eternity.  I think thats a fear we all have. Can you imagine being stranded with a total nerd forever, i mean you would never get laid again.

Its quite amusing when these trekkies don't realise that the episode is just taking the p&!s out of them.

  :finger:
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« Reply #134 on: 06-27-2002 01:03 »

Oh, we got the joke. It's just that some of us don't take ourselves all that seriously.
Zed 85

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« Reply #135 on: 06-27-2002 02:36 »

Actually I saw a thread at a Star Trek site (I think it was a Star Trek site, it was something sci-fi related and not Futurama related) and it had lots of Trekkies saying just how much they enjoyed it.  :)
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« Reply #136 on: 06-27-2002 22:52 »


Can any of you help put my colleague out of his misery by completing this Bender line from the episode, its driving him mad.

"OK i've finished reconfoobling the ...??????


Thanks for the help


Rockstar  :D
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« Reply #137 on: 06-29-2002 00:04 »

"OK, I'm done reconfoobling the energymotron, or whatever"

Classic Bender line.

I'm no longer tortured, hooray!!

M.
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« Reply #138 on: 06-29-2002 00:07 »


Say hello to Melllvar everybody.

He is the colleague i mentioned and also my boss on the graveyard shift.


Rockstar   :D
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« Reply #139 on: 08-07-2002 07:38 »

this episodes was the best
i loved how kirk and leela get it on, just like in the original star trek series.
but that bit when kirk takes off his boot and throws it at sulu, is funny, then he goes 'my foot is cold'
that episodes deserves A+
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« Reply #140 on: 01-04-2003 22:16 »

good episode, I only just saw it.
I'm not really a trekky but it was still funny
I saw that Leela Kirk thing cummin a mile away.
Leela was probally the last chick kirk will get to make out with although he can still give head
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« Reply #141 on: 01-05-2003 11:59 »

That Leela & Kirk was thing also funny, because Leela hates Zapp (Go "Beep" Yourself!), but kisses Kirk.
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« Reply #142 on: 07-04-2003 21:06 »

Just saw this episode and I think it's great. It is a worthy take off of Star Trek. I found it amusing and interesting.

This is one of my favourite episodes, not up there with the top of the list (Luck of the Fryish etc.) but definately high up on the list.

I would rate it an A.
PCC Fred

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« Reply #143 on: 07-04-2003 21:55 »

 
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Say hello to Melllvar everybody.

Hmm, I'm guessing someone's been having a dig at the old threads...
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« Reply #144 on: 07-04-2003 22:04 »

Yep I just saw the ep and it is good so I had to dig it out.

Oh Melllvar, welcome to PEEL!  ;)  ;)  ;)  :laff:  :laff:  :)
PCC Fred

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« Reply #145 on: 07-04-2003 22:07 »

Great, another nOOb.  ;)
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« Reply #146 on: 09-02-2003 09:09 »

*Bumped for Auzzies*

Never seen a trek movie or episode in my life, believe it or not... Still found it to be a terrific episode, lots of great one liners in this ep, most memorable off hand :
Leela : Go *Presses for Beep* Yourself

Have Fun

Hmmm, seems like Alex has already had a dip at this  :)
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« Reply #147 on: 09-02-2003 12:43 »

Just seen it not to bad and like a lot of others I've never seen an episode of Star Trek in my life....But I got the meaning of a lot of the jokes from putting my head to the ground over the years, or something.... :p (Especially KAAAAAHHHN....! Bless you George Costanza)

Will have to go watch it again cos I always miss half the jokes the first time (who doesn't....?)
but I enjoyed it and the PE crew who were absent other than the start I hardly noticed I guess cos the ep was funny enough to distract me....
Also it's good to have a break like that sometimes from a character or 2 or 3.... :p

Roll on Season 4....!!
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« Reply #148 on: 04-05-2005 06:23 »

 
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Originally posted by PCC Fred:
And Welshie's line was just gibberish. (so they did use fluent Welsh!)   :D

Just watched the episode again and being a fluent Welsh speaker myself I can reveal that what Welshie says is "I'm completely drunk", that's not an exact translation because it loses something in translation but that's what he said anyway.
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« Reply #149 on: 04-05-2005 11:58 »

massive *bump* , ah well, better than creating this thread again, like i do with other threads, then GFF closes it.
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« Reply #150 on: 05-12-2006 14:46 »

 
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Originally posted by Zed 85:
Actually I saw a thread at a Star Trek site (I think it was a Star Trek site, it was something sci-fi related and not Futurama related) and it had lots of Trekkies saying just how much they enjoyed it.   :)

*Even bigger bump*

Just watched it again on TV and nearly died laughing, one of my top 5 Futurama eps Leela's making out scene with Shatner was priceless.

Too many Trek references to mention, Kif as Balok at the end had me falling off the chair. Hilarious.

As someone who's watched Trek TOS since I was a kid I think I can honestly say it's the best Trek parody I've ever seen. A+
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« Reply #151 on: 05-15-2006 20:07 »

THE best parody of 'Star Trek' I have ever seen! Did anyone get the spoof on the episode 'Who Mourns For Adonais?' when Melllvar grabs the ship? This is just an example on how subtle the entire episode actually is.

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« Reply #152 on: 05-15-2006 23:26 »

I loved this episode, especially the trial, Zapp is again hilarious, also, "Welshy!!!"
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« Reply #153 on: 05-16-2006 01:07 »
« Last Edit on: 08-24-2008 19:01 »

*edited because I have no idea what I was saying, and thus, I have no indication of what it might be you may think I was trying to say*
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« Reply #154 on: 05-16-2006 13:57 »

It was alright.I give it 6/10
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« Reply #155 on: 05-17-2006 05:28 »

 
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It was alright.I give it 6/10

Yeah not the best episode, I would give it around that to...
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« Reply #156 on: 05-19-2006 21:53 »

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« Reply #157 on: 10-17-2007 09:50 »

can ppl who h8 star trek troll?

GOOD question
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« Reply #158 on: 09-20-2011 19:47 »
« Last Edit on: 09-25-2011 04:24 »

Oh, man, I have forgotten how perfectly excellent this episode is! First, I have watched most of season 1 of TOS Star Trek, and while I am not fanatical about it as I am for Futurama, I still feel very affectionate towards it. There were probably a lot of other subtle references that I didn't get, but I think I got the obvious ones.

First, I love the genuine pathos shown between Shatner and Nimoy. I think they are good friends in real life (right, any Trekkies out there?). I loved everyone entreating Walter Koenig to say everything in a Russian accent and to say "wessel" (as others have previously pointed out), and then his reaction of disgust. George Takei is always a hoot, and Nichelle Nichols' fan dance and sexy voice were awesome. It's sad that DeForest Kelley passed away by that time, but I'm happy that they at least included him in animation form.

And Welshie! Need I say more. I'm glad someone who understands Welsh could translate what he said. Hilarious.

My favorite lines was probably "So many cardboard sets, so many memories." Oh, that made me laugh out loud, as I've always found it hilarious that the "rocks" of the alien planets bounce whenever Kirk is running or fighting on them.

And I think my favorite gag was the beeping wheelchair, straight out of The Menagerie. That was a really interesting ST episode. I loved how Fry's expression was that of the disabled and disfigured Captain Pike, but then he jumps out of it. I loved how they all had to beep in order to communicate, and Leela's line about how her foot getting tired from stepping on the pedal to beep it. Great stuff (though I think the wheelchair gag was already used in A Clone of My Own).

But what I thought tipped this ep over into brilliance was its underlying message: Fanboys and fangirls, get a life! Melllvar's character seemed like a dig at all the fans who take themselves waaaaaaaay too seriously. Yeah, encyclopedic knowledge of a TV show does not alone make you a worthier human being. I hope anybody who thinks so looks at Melllvar's temper tantrums and thinks twice before furiously engaging in a battle of trivia with a stranger on the Internet.

Brilliant episode, and I can't believe I've excluded it from my top ten. It's firmly esconced there now. 10/10

p.s. I ship for Fry and Leela, but her making out with Shatner didn't bother me in the least. I mean, that is the nature of Shatner/Kirk, to make out with the nearest hottie, even if she has one eye and is fighting him to the death.

Edit: That's Melllvar with three "l"s. Obviously I have not been to any Star Trek conventions to know how to spell "Melllvar."
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« Reply #159 on: 09-24-2011 18:18 »
« Last Edit on: 09-24-2011 18:20 »

I love this episode, despite knowing virtually nothing about Star Trek. The guest appearances make sense (and are funny; there's Nimoy and Shatner's ad-libby run about hugging ("You have no body...and we're both men"), Nichelle Nichols's disgust with having to kiss Shatner, Keonig becoming a real actor and a well-rounded person with keys, Takei's annoyance with being assumed as a karate master), and don't come off as hokey or lame or what have you. Watch any guest star-heavy episode of, say, The Simpsons and see how poorly the appearances are handled there; then compare it to this episode, which is just so damn great.

I guess what I enjoy so much about this episode is how loving it is in its mockery of the show, and the meta-ness of it all (two shows that have been canceled before their time meeting head-to-head); I appreciate all the fan stuff with Fry and Melllvar and Star Trek, because that's how I feel about Futurama now. I do get this sense of, I don't know, acceptance or wonder or joy or something--pathetic though that may be--from this show, so I can relate to that aspect of the story.

And did I mention this one's hilarious? Because it really is. It's appropriately silly and campy and affectionate and satirical, and it's easily one of the best episodes of the series. It could have been a train wreck, but the writers pulled it all off so well. It doesn't seem cheap or crass or anything--it's just a genuinely great spin on Star Trek, and fandom in general.

9.5/10
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