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« on: 04-21-2002 14:55 »

Back with our last episode review thread for this season. If you don't want to be spoiled, go away. Some moderator will hopefully open this thread shortly before the episode airs in the US. No download and no pre-air talk please. Try to keep this thread reviewy. Other aspects might deserve their own thread.

i will edit my post to review myself later
VelourFog

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« Reply #1 on: 04-21-2002 19:11 »
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this is one of those rare times i wish i was more of a nerd.  This episode still held up well for me considering I've never watched trek, but I cant help but feeling that there are lots of inside jokes I'd find funnier if i was "inside."  Lots of good one liners though.
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« Reply #2 on: 04-21-2002 19:34 »
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One of the best episodes ever and it was differnt I give them that.A+

and The Simpson episode tonight was lame.D-
cellery

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« Reply #3 on: 04-21-2002 19:37 »

Wonderful episode, the prelim sketches I saw didn't do this one justice, especially Leela and Kirk getting freaky.   smile  A well done nod to ST fandom as well, a bunch of my Trekkie friends were hooting at the references. The crack about it being another scifi show canceled before its time was poignant since it also applies to Futurama. A hearty 5/5 from me!
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« Reply #4 on: 04-21-2002 19:41 »

I'm more of a Star wars guy, so the episode didn't have as much of an appeal to me. A great episode all the same, one of the best this year. Great mix of comedy and action, and great use of the guest stars. Miles above last year's season finale. A-
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« Reply #5 on: 04-21-2002 19:47 »
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Was there any part of this episode that didn't rock?  From Jonathan Frakes' little cameo to the redshirt jokes to Melllvar, this was a teriffic episode.  I may have to update my top10.  And could Leela's shirt have ridden up any higher?

Best line:
Bender: Another classic science fiction show cancelled before its time
Venus

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« Reply #6 on: 04-21-2002 19:51 »



i liked it, im not a trekkie, in fact i've never seen a single epidode of the original startrek so i bet theres loads of references i didn't get. Although i'm a shipper i didn't much mind Leela macking on kirk, the thing that annoyed me most was Fry's complete lack of reaction to seeing it. At the very least i expected him to frown at them, but no he just stood there with a completely neutral expression.   hmpf
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« Reply #7 on: 04-21-2002 19:56 »

omg this whole episode was chalk full of trek refrences.. i loved it! A+ in my book!
Chump

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« Reply #8 on: 04-21-2002 20:18 »

It was ok, but I'm not a big Trekie.
I definately agree with Nix: Bender had the best line. I also like when he asked if people who don't like Star Trek could leave, and one of the crew looked hopeful. Good stuff... good not great...
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« Reply #9 on: 04-21-2002 20:26 »

I liked it alot, I thought it was one of the best this year.
9.1 out of 10
The Baz

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« Reply #10 on: 04-21-2002 20:27 »

It was a great episode like always.  Great concept and was sucessfully pulled out.  THe only problem was a lack of the cast.  Other than that I enjoyed it very much even though I'm not a big old school Trek fan.

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VelourFog

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« Reply #11 on: 04-21-2002 20:28 »

leela: well that is touchingly pathetic
Xenomorph
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« Reply #12 on: 04-21-2002 20:31 »

Hahaha. Good stuff. I missed the ending-credit joke, what was it?
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« Reply #13 on: 04-21-2002 20:33 »

There was an ending credit joke?  There are ending credit jokes?
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« Reply #14 on: 04-21-2002 20:36 »

Heheh, if ever there was TV episode that brought both Trekkies and Trek-haters together in harmony, this is it. Yeah, that quantum-cloud thing that kept zapping the dead actor out of anger, I thought that was funny. And there were several celebrities at the same time, without messing up the dialogue. I give it a B.
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« Reply #15 on: 04-21-2002 20:53 »

I liked this episode very much.  I thought I wouldn't like it as much as I did though, since I don't watch Star Trek.  A great way to end the season even though it was a pretty short.
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« Reply #16 on: 04-21-2002 21:04 »

I wanna know what the end credit gag with Kif was!  Stupid Fox! 

Overall, a really great episode.  It was nice to get some of the ST refs too, because TOS is the only series I've really ever watched.  Twas a nerds paradise too.  I loved how Melllvar wrote a fanscript!  Ha!  Take that light jab fandom! 

Might just make it's way into my top ten.
Chump

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« Reply #17 on: 04-21-2002 21:07 »

What are these end credit gags you all speak of? I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
B.Frankendorfer

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« Reply #18 on: 04-21-2002 21:09 »

Apparently according to the Ain't It Cool News review of this episode, found in another thread somewhere in this forum, there were end credit gags involving Amy's boyfriend (I assume that's Kif).  But Fox blows donkey balls, so we get to see nothing.  frown
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« Reply #19 on: 04-21-2002 21:17 »

Great episode, I think it is time to change from top 10 to top 11.  Too many good episodes to start squeezing ones out.

The ending credits joke (I didn't see the the actual credits, I just know what it is) is Kif standing on the view screen with his eyes wide open.  There is an alien monster in the ending credits of Star Trek with the same thing.
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« Reply #20 on: 04-21-2002 22:09 »

TLZ has a grab of the ending credit.  I almost fell on the floor laughing.  If you have ever seen Star Trek's closing credits you'd immediately recognize it.
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« Reply #21 on: 04-21-2002 22:24 »
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I hate FOX and their not showing the end credits

And can someone please tell me where this ship comes from?  It's almost 2001-esque
Unit42

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« Reply #22 on: 04-21-2002 22:32 »

Well, the original ST was the only trek I've completely seen and the reffs, like the Welshy, complete with the red shirt, getting zapped was hillarious.

The only real downer was DeForrest Kelly (Dr. McCoy) passed away a little over a year ago.  I could only wonder what dialog he could've been stuck with...

McCoy: Damnit Fry, I'm a Doctor not a bending unit!

Bender: Sucks to be you!

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« Reply #23 on: 04-21-2002 22:35 »

I am left wondering what happened to the tapes of TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise.
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« Reply #24 on: 04-21-2002 22:37 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:

Best line:
Bender: Another science fiction series cancelled before it's time.

Neigh... that comes in a close second.
During Act 2, Zapp says this line about unread mail... I was laughing for the longest time.

Can't quite remember the exact quote, what was it?
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« Reply #25 on: 04-21-2002 22:37 »

this epesode was very funny. I loved the end where they met Zap and it turns out that they are still fighting Melllvar as the court marshal was going on. That was so funny. And the line where Melllvar says his ship was in mint condition and he had to take it out of its original packaging. I have met some people who are big collectors they are so funny like that. But even if you are not a die hard trekie this episode was very good.
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« Reply #26 on: 04-21-2002 22:37 »
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Nixorbo wrote:
 
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I am left wondering what happened to the tapes of TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise.

They were destroyed in during the second coming of Jesus, maybe?
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« Reply #27 on: 04-21-2002 22:42 »
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:
I hate FOX and their not showing the end credits

And can someone please tell me where this ship comes from?  It's almost 2001-esque

I could be wrong, but I think that ship comes from the show Space 1999.  I think.

Good episode.  I liked the fanscript gag and Fry making a bow and arrow out of catipillars.

Edit:  I knew I've seen that ship somewhere.  If you go to Amazon.com and search for Space 1999 under DVD, you'll come across the boxsets.  There's a picture of that ship in the upper corner of the DVD season 1 set.

Unit42

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« Reply #28 on: 04-21-2002 22:43 »

Nah, all those other Trek Shows were destroyed by Trek Monks as being false idols to the real god (Kirk).
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« Reply #29 on: 04-21-2002 22:44 »

Liked the episode, not that big of a Trek fan but I got most of the jokes. The ship I think was the Botany Bay.... How the hell did I know that

::Runs out screaming::
I am not a Trekie...
Nixorbo

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« Reply #30 on: 04-21-2002 22:56 »

That's definitely not the Botany Bay.  I would have recognized the Botany Bay.
MuscaDomestica

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« Reply #31 on: 04-21-2002 23:08 »

Never mind... Wasn't it shaped somewhat like that? I checked out some Star Trek boards they seem to be liking it and Futurama, more support to save the show.    smile
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« Reply #32 on: 04-21-2002 23:16 »

Well, if you really want to know, The Botany Bay
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« Reply #33 on: 04-21-2002 23:48 »
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Heh heh.  A nice, solid episode.  I went out this afternoon with my dad for some quality photography and 70s nostalgia time and we didn't get home in time so we missed the first few minutes.  Other than that, I enjoyed it.  I have never seen an episode of Star Trek, though my friend Nick got me to watch Enterprise once...Anyway, it was funny as Melmar(sp?) seemed to be the stereo-typical geek.  Also, I never thought Fry was the nerd type.  Ah well.  Learn something new every day, I suppose.   smile   As stated by someone before me, I'm confused as to why Fry's expression was neutral when they found Leela making out with Shatner/Kirk.  Though I guess he didn't think much of it because of "The Why of Fry"...  Also, are we really to believe that it takes absolutely no time at all for Leela to round second base with yet another guy with a huge ego?  C'mon.  Maybe she just has an affinity for the complete idiodic ego-maniac types.  Y'know, women can be so blind.  We never know a guy's true colors til too late.  I speak from experience.   smile
My rating for this ep? Eh...A-.  I need at least one shipper nod.  An innuendo maybe?  Hello?   confused

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« Reply #34 on: 04-21-2002 23:53 »

Oh, quit whining.  It was funny.
BumbleBeeTheta

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« Reply #35 on: 04-22-2002 00:16 »

 
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Oh, quit whining.  It was funny.
When you've been a shipper since episode one, nothing satisfies you.  big grin

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Kryten

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« Reply #36 on: 04-22-2002 00:28 »

Another instant classic. So far, Season 4 is 3 for 3.

Favorite bits... well, pretty much everything, though I really liked the "Menagerie" chair, Kirk ripping his shirt before the battle, Bender's machine gun, the untimely death of Welshy...
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« Reply #37 on: 04-22-2002 00:40 »

 
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Originally posted by Nixorbo:

Best line:
Bender: Another classic science fiction show cancelled before its time

It almost makes me wonder if that line was added after Futurama was dropped.

On with the review:  Good stuff.  Like almost everyone else, I'm not a huge fan of TOS, but I have seen and heard enough obscure jokes about it to piece it together.  Even though I'm just a pseudo-fan, I really thought this episode was grand.  Melllvar's behavior was exactly what I'd expect from an all-powerful Trekkie, Fry's behavior was exactly what I've been expecting from him, and I liked the addition (and repeated killings) of Welshie.  In addition, this episode seemed liked a lot of Voyager episodes where it sort of works backwards and then jumps forward every so often.

 
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I am left wondering what happened to the tapes of TNG, DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise.

Perhaps they formed different, more-benign religions.
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« Reply #38 on: 04-22-2002 01:05 »
« Last Edit on: 04-22-2002 01:05 »

I thought it was quite funny, not the best episode but it was a good end to the season.  Wish there were more eps...oh well, twas good!


edit- nice sig Bumblebee!!
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« Reply #39 on: 04-22-2002 01:11 »

 
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edit- nice sig Bumblebee!!
Thanks.  Paul made it for me.  Good ol' Paul...  big grin   love

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