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vonboy
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« Reply #80 on: 07-30-2010 08:58 »

i see somebody said it reminded them of adventure time, but that poster didn't say it parodied it. also, hasn't adventure time only aired a few months? it didn't even exist when they were writing the script for this episode a year or so ago.
wowbagger

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« Reply #81 on: 07-30-2010 08:59 »

Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! Best episode ever! That was an absolutely superb exploration of time that kept me glued to it the whole time. In fact, I'm lost for words, just amazing!

10/10
Aki

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« Reply #82 on: 07-30-2010 08:59 »

i see somebody said it reminded them of adventure time, but that poster didn't say it parodied it. also, hasn't adventure time only aired a few months? it didn't even exist when they were writing the script for this episode a year or so ago.
I only quote, though, cause I've never heard of the song nor those people, and he/she might as well be all wrong.
wowbagger

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« Reply #83 on: 07-30-2010 09:05 »

I found some more words... first off, the guy in the BWABB scene was probably just replacement staff for the people they lost, a new delivery boy? Although I do wonder if this strange character will appear in the series again!?

Secondly, I meant to mention that I loved "The Time Machine" reference, which I felt the whole episode was largely based on, particularly when the species split into two.
vonboy
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« Reply #84 on: 07-30-2010 09:06 »

so sorry meatbags.

i stand corrected (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNM2K8cmU8)
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #85 on: 07-30-2010 09:07 »

I found some more words... first off, the guy in the BWABB scene was probably just replacement staff for the people they lost, a new delivery boy? Although I do wonder if this strange character will appear in the series again!?
What would they need a replacement for?
wowbagger

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« Reply #86 on: 07-30-2010 09:10 »

I found some more words... first off, the guy in the BWABB scene was probably just replacement staff for the people they lost, a new delivery boy? Although I do wonder if this strange character will appear in the series again!?
What would they need a replacement for?

Oh yeah, stupid me, my time travel line was out... that was before they disappeared. Disregard  wtf?
Aki

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« Reply #87 on: 07-30-2010 09:15 »

That's okay, I think the worse of you for not realising they didn't have a replacement for Bender or the Professor though. :P
Pitt Clemens

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« Reply #88 on: 07-30-2010 09:20 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 09:22 »

I contend against the multiple universe argument in favor of the stuck in a time loop argument.  I like time loops better.

Also, after much thought I think the line of the show for me was:

"There were piles of bodies everywhere!  Then the explosion started."

Followed by:

"That was the old Fry.  He's dead now."
Jezzem

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« Reply #89 on: 07-30-2010 09:49 »

Wow. This episode is definitely up there as one of the best episode of Futurama ever. It had great jokes, great music and a great storyline, and the scene with them drinking a beer and watching the end of the Universe has got to be one of my favourite scenes in any TV show.

As for the jokes, one of my favourite lines of the episode is still "Time? I can't go back there!" and the subtle sight gag of Bender burning the alienese book about backwards time travel.

Anyway, this episode feels the most like classic Futurama out of all of the new episodes and the movies.

Also, this is the first of the new episodes that I feel like I can honestly give it a 10/10
seattlejohn01

Space Pope
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« Reply #90 on: 07-30-2010 09:53 »

Loved this episode! 
Morgan_G19

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« Reply #91 on: 07-30-2010 09:55 »

Awesome episode! Loved the time traveling song.

I especially enjoyed seeing the older episodes in it as well  smile
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #92 on: 07-30-2010 10:15 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 10:20 »

A few interesting background gags and things I noticed on second viewing:
And the Planet of the Apes joke would've been perfect if they stopped at the apes.

And I want to know who sang the song in the episode. I'm not exactly sure I could put my finger on who it was.


Overall, I liked it a whole lot more on the second viewing and can definitely classify it with the best of the series.
willsterdude3000

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« Reply #93 on: 07-30-2010 10:17 »

This has got to be the best episode of the season so far. It was as good as we hoped it would be. The only problem with it I had is the universe being reborn was quite predictable, but who cares. I also loved how even at the most depressing of times in this, it was livened up by humour, and that there was an interesting B-story, with planet express developing.
10/10
Regulator

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« Reply #94 on: 07-30-2010 10:21 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 10:42 »

Okay, I watched it again. Just absolutely brilliant. One of the best episodes of the entire series.

Pretty much everything about this episode was excellent. The comedy, (this episode was hilarious, one tiny chink though was the Planet of the Apes joke which went on a little too long but I laughed at the ape statue and then started laughing again at the slug thing, mainly because of Fry) the story, (it was a tad predictable, didn't hurt the amazement though) the direction, (stood out to say the least) the animation, (2nd Big Bang blew minds) the emotion and the music. (Christopher Tyng really outdid himself, a very short but memorable part is when Leela looked at the picture)

A very high 9...which rounds up anyway to a 10/10

Also, was it me or did 3050 Cubert look like good alternate Biff from Back to the Future? Another reference to Back to the Future might have been that they were gonna go 1 minute into the future ala Einstein. There was also Terminator and The Time Machine.

It was also awesome to see how badass Leela is with a laser gun. She's usually drawn with one in promo art but rarely uses it. (Besides threatening with it in Leela's Homeworld and BWaBB)
Nutmeg1729

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« Reply #95 on: 07-30-2010 10:31 »

Yeah I love it. It's pretty much what I had expected but a lot better, some pretty good call backs to the previous seasons, but not so many that it got boring.

I do agree that the planet of the apes joke went a little two far, but it was still funny, with Frys reaction being pretty classic as far as the long drawn-out screams go.

The B-plot was also good, even if it wasn't  really explored much. It had enough to warrant an interest though with the characters getting older and stuff, and Amy being a robot is a little creepy, if funny.

Overall, 9/10 because it was hilarious and I loved it, but overall a little predictable and with a couple of overdone jokes.
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #96 on: 07-30-2010 11:08 »

Sorry, but those stalagmites would have been so much bigger after 999996950 years. Other than that, excellent. I gave it 8/10 cause I'm feeling picky.
Future Shock

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« Reply #97 on: 07-30-2010 11:14 »

Oh... my... god.

Loved it loved it loved it loved it loved it. Emmyworthy. Roflworthy. *sniff* if this isn't one of the best episodes of Futurama... just wow...

1. The Late Philip J Fry
2. Attack of the Killer App
3. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
4. Lethal Inspection
5. Rebirth
6. Proposition Infinity
7. The Da Vinci Code
Jezzem

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« Reply #98 on: 07-30-2010 11:32 »

Sorry, but those stalagmites would have been so much bigger after 999996950 years. Other than that, excellent. I gave it 8/10 cause I'm feeling picky.

What makes you think there was water dripping on them the whole time? It might have started and stopped many times during those 999996950 years, not allowing them to grow very high.
Aki

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« Reply #99 on: 07-30-2010 12:07 »

Also, was it me or did 3050 Cubert look like good alternate Biff from Back to the Future?
Wow, me too, but I didn't care to mention it until you said it. big grin
Applepie

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« Reply #100 on: 07-30-2010 13:03 »

That-was-the-best-episode EVER.
I absolutely loved it! And the background music was amazing too!
Future Shock

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« Reply #101 on: 07-30-2010 13:47 »

So apparently there's one year between Attack of the Killer App and this episode, as the professor notes as they reach the second world.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #102 on: 07-30-2010 13:48 »

Rather a goof, they say it's 3010 in both episodes.
DannyJC13

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« Reply #103 on: 07-30-2010 13:58 »

Amazing, 10/10, best Episode this Season. I'm a big fan of Time Travel, the Future, Paradoxs' and all that, and I loved this Episode. Reminded me of BBS. =P
Jarvio

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« Reply #104 on: 07-30-2010 14:20 »

This was probably my favourite of the new series so far. Just brilliant. Everyone expected it to be a good one, and it turned out to be. Professor shooting Hitler was a highlight for me. I think this episode might just get them an emmy!

My new list:
1 - The Late Phillip J. Fry
2 - The Duh-Vinci Code
3 - Proposition Infinity
4 - Lethal Inspection
5 - Rebirth
6 - In-A-Gagga-Da-Leela
7 - Attack Of The Killer App

PS - Someone said they included scenes from past episodes. What bits were they?
speedracer
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« Reply #105 on: 07-30-2010 14:20 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 14:28 »

Sorry, but those stalagmites would have been so much bigger after 999996950 years. Other than that, excellent. I gave it 8/10 cause I'm feeling picky.

But the fact that the cave still exists after a billion years doesn't bother you.
Zoo Station

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« Reply #106 on: 07-30-2010 14:27 »

This episode was just fantastic in every respect and gave us everything that makes Futurama great: plenty of laughs, a touching story and something to think about long after it's over. I would have immediately given it at least a 9/10 but once Fry found Leela's note in the cave I knew I couldn't give it anything less than a 10/10. Just awesome.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #107 on: 07-30-2010 14:34 »

Time isn't a cycle, stop complaining about it going against The Cryonic Woman because it doesn't. They were in a new universe that was exactly like the old one each time they witnessed a big bang -this is pretty much 100% confirmed by the new universe being 10ft lower than the last one.

But yeah. I loved that. Easily the best episode of season 6 so far and anybody who doesn't think that stands up with the original run is actively trying to dislike the new episodes.
For me, that was easily the funniest episode of the new season so far but also, the plot was just magnificent. I was dissapointed with the solution being pretty much the first thing most of us thought of when trying to figure out what they'd do, but it was handled well and the whole Fry/Leela thing was done well. I also loved that song and the little touches such as the card still recording as it hit Leela's head. I do feel like the first 2 acts were stronger than the last, but I loved it, I really did. I think it might be a 9/10 for me (by Futurama's standards, an easy 10/10 by overall TV standards). I almost wish this had been one of the movies so they could have spent more time on the concept.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #108 on: 07-30-2010 14:38 »

What I love about this episode is the subplot (sort of) with Fry and Leela. It really brought an emotional core to it. If it wasn't for the first act and Fry being late and all, it could still be good ("oh I miss Leela") but the fact that he never got to express his feelings, and that he kept feeling he had disappointed her, and she thinking his last act in life was namely to disappoint her... there's some extremely emotional core in there.
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #109 on: 07-30-2010 14:54 »

Sorry, but those stalagmites would have been so much bigger after 999996950 years. Other than that, excellent. I gave it 8/10 cause I'm feeling picky.

But the fact that the cave still exists after a billion years doesn't bother you.

Not in the slightest. Weird isn't it? I'll suspend belief for one thing but not another, then again, to say the size of the stalagmites actually bothers me is probably stretching it. Like I said, I'm feeling picky.
nasarius
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« Reply #110 on: 07-30-2010 15:02 »

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Hitler says (I think, the last word is hard to make out) "Look at my mustache" in somewhat awkward German (google-translated?): "Betrachten Sie meinen Schnurrbart."

That's definitely what he says. Kinda surprising that in a room full of math/science PhDs, nobody knows basic German. It's the form you'd use when formally addressing a single person, not a crowd.
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #111 on: 07-30-2010 15:07 »

To be fair, basic German is rarely a part of any science and/or maths courses...
nasarius
Crustacean
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« Reply #112 on: 07-30-2010 15:10 »

To be fair, basic German is rarely a part of any science and/or maths courses...

Dunno about other subjects, but when studying chemistry it's fairly common to learn enough German so you can at least read journal articles. I imagine physics is the same.
Jarvio

Bending Unit
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« Reply #113 on: 07-30-2010 15:12 »

Maybe they did it on purpose? To make Hitler look like an idiot?
bend_her

Professor
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« Reply #114 on: 07-30-2010 15:26 »

I liked the episode - had the right mix of funny and touching. It did tear huge gaping holes in the Futurama universe (and DXC's logic for not doing time travel) - like for instance, why didn't they do anything with the two time machines? I had hoped the way they got back to 3010 would involve another very rare event (a la Roswell), I thought maybe the fact that the second big-bang producing an identical universe was one such rare event, but the fact that they repeated the attempt now makes it trivial to travel backwards to any arbitrary point in time. Perhaps the writers are leaving the door open for future[1] shenanigans?

The cave and the stalactites surviving all that geologic activity is a bit much, and yeah, I too felt at first like Fry should have stopped the machine at 2000. Then the shipper in me kicked in: he didn't because of Leela (aww!)

The song had me in splits! The singer having trouble saying 252525 was hilarious! Older Leela was a bit much to take, and ewwww - why would she marry Cubert??? Also, I thought (happily) that Cubert was dead after the events of BBS ("nailed the childrens' ship")?

The time machine's controls must work on a log scale, since they're travelling millions of years/second at first, but then slow down to days/second towards the end. Had a good laugh when the professor missed 3010 the first time around! Were they actually moving forward in time when they watched the heat death? How come they could see out the window then, but earlier on (for instance, right after Bender whisks them away from the era of hot babe scientists) the windows have this greenish thing outside? Final nitpick: where did the Professor get his laser cannon from? He didn't have anything with him when they started off.

9/10

[1] triple pun bonus!
Dorsal Axe

Bending Unit
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« Reply #115 on: 07-30-2010 15:29 »

This episode is pure, unadultered Futurama at it's very best. I'm so impressed. I haven't enjoyed an episode of anything as much as this since the original run.

I loved all the small touches and callbacks. I really loved seeing Planet Express in the future. Amy as a cyborg seemed fitting after Proposition Infinity, and I loved Hermes' head (in a jar again!) on the pogo stick.

Bit odd how Leela can destroy the company in the last episode, and expand it tenfold in this one though. tongue
ShepherdofShark

Space Pope
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« Reply #116 on: 07-30-2010 15:33 »

Bit odd how Leela can destroy the company in the last episode, and expand it tenfold in this one though. tongue

Spleesh! She delegated the paperwork to Hermes of course. Leaving her free to focus on the overall escape business plan.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #117 on: 07-30-2010 15:40 »

Dunno about other subjects, but when studying chemistry it's fairly common to learn enough German so you can at least read journal articles. I imagine physics is the same.
No.
cyber_turnip

Urban Legend
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« Reply #118 on: 07-30-2010 15:45 »

I ranked each episode to try and figure out if this is a 9/10 or 10/10 from me and it sits bang in the middle of my favourite 9/10 episode and least favourite 10/10 episode, so I'm being nice and giving it a 10.

It's the first episode of the show I've enjoyed more than the movies.
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #119 on: 07-30-2010 15:57 »

If I could just have a mini-rant about this review that I found on CGEF about this episode for a second because it really annoyed me:

Quote from: CGEF user reviews for The Late Phillip J. Fry
I hate to rain on the parade of 5 star reviews, but I couldn't disagree more with people who are saying this is "classic" Futurama. What am I missing? I watch the old episodes constantly and I have seen NOTHING in this new season that even resembles the quick, fun humor we saw in "The Deep South", "The Problem with Popplers", "Amazon Women in the Mood", "Parasites Lost", etc. -- just to name a few which I consider to be the "classic" episodes off the top of my head. Futurama was not originally this emotionally manipulative (and pretty bad at it in my opinion)-- it was a hysterically funny and smart show with wild plot lines and characters. Now those fun characters have been replaced with whiny, emo versions who have become more annoying to watch each week as they find a new problem to complain about. I'm sorry guys, Futurama as I know it seems to be dead.


CeePea17 gave 1 point

Yeah, this guy's right, Futurama was never in any way emotional before the new season. roll eyes

Now, I'm usually fine with people not liking episodes that I like as long as they don't dislike it for stupid reasons or start claiming the show is dead because they didn't like something about an episode, which is why this one really pissed me off.

That seemed rather unnecessary considering that the guy will probably never read this but, you know...
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