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speedracer
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« Reply #40 on: 07-30-2010 05:37 »

Did anybody else feel like this episode could've been used as a season/series finale la Devil's Hands? The call backs made me smile.

Certainly, and I really hope that the Season 6 finale is something similarly Calvin-and-Hobbes-esque instead of terminal.
Frisco17

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« Reply #41 on: 07-30-2010 05:38 »

-Having a beer and watching the universe end was a beautiful moment

I loved that entire scene!

"Oh the vast unimaginable emptiness!" (shakes can)
Gorky

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« Reply #42 on: 07-30-2010 05:41 »

Josh...I don't get it. tongue

Anyway, more thorough review:

Upon rewatching this episode, I definitely enjoyed it more. I mean, I enjoyed it a hell of a lot the first time, but now it's solidified itself as one of the best of the best episodes. The animation, first of all, was beautiful (I agree that watching the universe end--then start all over again--was inspired and a sight to see; loved the nods to old episodes). The music was also really dynamic and touching (I liked that little cue in 3030 where Leela was looking at the old picture of she and Fry; it was kind of heartbreaking (and that song, of course, was awesome)), and there were definitely more laughs than I initially gave the episode credit for (I loved "That was the old Fry. He's dead now", and the bit about throwing up on a stripper; Bender sending them further into the future out of spite ("Did you see that mountain of skulls?") was both frustrating and hysterical). The Fry/Leela story grounded the episode and gave it a bit more focus than "Oh, let's bounce around in time and see what happens"; Fry's message to Leela and Leela's message to Fry were both so sweet.

So, yeah. Touching and funny and beautiful. Gotta knock this one up a notch to a pretty much perfect 10/10.
speedracer
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« Reply #43 on: 07-30-2010 05:41 »

-Having a beer and watching the universe end was a beautiful moment

I loved that entire scene!

"Oh the vast unimaginable emptiness!" (shakes can)

I like that they kept the philosophizing to a few select lines (Fry musing that he's had a good life) and made fun of it with the rest (What's the meaning of life?  Who knows, probably some nonsense about the human spirit, etc).
JoshTheater

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« Reply #44 on: 07-30-2010 05:43 »

Alright, here is the crappy MS Paint graph I made to illustrate Weiner's and my Four Universe Cycle Theory:


Josh...I don't get it. tongue

What don't you get?
Frisco17

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« Reply #45 on: 07-30-2010 05:45 »

Makes sense to me. Plus it's still simpler than BBS.
Gorky

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« Reply #46 on: 07-30-2010 05:45 »

What don't you get?

Why my hilarious ditzy girl shtick doesn't go over well on PEEL.

Translation: I got it fine, man. You have excellent paint skillz.
Freako

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« Reply #47 on: 07-30-2010 05:45 »

The callbacks made me smile, ah the years.
JoshTheater

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« Reply #48 on: 07-30-2010 05:47 »

What don't you get?

Why my hilarious ditzy girl shtick doesn't go over well on PEEL.

Translation: I got it fine, man. You have excellent paint skillz.

<3
Gorky

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« Reply #49 on: 07-30-2010 05:50 »

The less-than-three is mutual, Josh.

I like that they kept the philosophizing to a few select lines (Fry musing that he's had a good life)

What I like about that moment is that all Fry really needs to be satisfied is to know that Leela loves him, too. My shippy heart damn near burst.
Fnord
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« Reply #50 on: 07-30-2010 05:51 »


Entertaining. The solution to the time-travel problem seemed a bit obvious, even before knowing it.

[-mArc-]

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« Reply #51 on: 07-30-2010 05:59 »

I'll skip the prose version of my review for now (it's not even 6am here...) and go straight to my Smiley Scale:



Edging towards big grin, but not all the way there yet for me... Maybe on second viewing with more being awakeness!
Kryten

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« Reply #52 on: 07-30-2010 06:15 »

Okay, the REAL burning question: Was that REALLY Zager and Evans? Because that would be awesome.
Smarty

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« Reply #53 on: 07-30-2010 06:16 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 06:20 »

I loved this episode. It had a good mix of funny and sweet in it. Once Fry was late for work I went "OH!" because of the title, but it was a good way to tie the two things together.

Leela missing Fry was well done...it was funny when she held up the picture of him and behind it was Cubert, but it was a little weird to think that she'd settle with him, even in that moment. She didn't cry over him but still missed him enough to say that the short time with him was her best, and her message was great. Another touching Futurama moment.

It was funny, because I watched Morgan Freeman's Through the Wormhole this morning and it dealt with the whole "before the big bang" thing, and had the universe continually happening. But it was well done, the animation was great.   10/10

No one seems to have noticed yet: The card was still recording when it hit Leela in the head!

I noticed.

And as someone pointed out, there's no more nit-picking at this point, since it's a whole new universe! (I wonder if that's a jab at the Futurama community.)

I don't think it's a whole new universe. It's exactly the same. Thus the pictures of the past as they were traveling in Planet Express.

And it makes sense that they continued accidentally into another cycle. The future may have been drastically different if Hitler died.
Frylo

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« Reply #54 on: 07-30-2010 06:18 »

Just watched the ep for the third time, and my mind was equally blown all three times.  Still a 10/10 for me.

One thing i thought was strange;  When the Time Machine is showing the replay of BWaBB, there is a mysterious man standing next to Hermes, Amy, and Leela, watching as Yivo controls the Professor.  Any thoughts as to who this may be?  (Time in ep 19:00/21:00)
yeoldeskool
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« Reply #55 on: 07-30-2010 06:20 »

this episode was pretty awesome! the only problem is that this episode may not have hit me deeper if last wk's wasnt pretty touching too. i think episodes like this should be somewhat spaced out unless the season is going to be made up mostly of them. "jurassic bark" is by far my favorite episode and there was a decent gap between that and "leela's homeworld." dont get me wrong though, i totally loved this episode. def the best of since the devil's hands, including the movies. i would've given this a 9/10 the first time around because i thought the prof.'s comment about an empty beer kind of cheapened the moment. but after watching it again it didn't bother me at all. 10/10!!
Frisco17

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« Reply #56 on: 07-30-2010 06:21 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 06:24 »

I thought the empty beer comment was brilliant. He philosophized about the universe and subtly nagged Bender for another beer. Classic!

And it makes sense that they continued accidentally into another cycle. The future may have been drastically different if Hitler died.

May have been?

No one seems to have noticed yet: The card was still recording when it hit Leela in the head!

I noticed.

Me too. I thought it was a nice little touch.
Smarty

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« Reply #57 on: 07-30-2010 06:23 »

And it makes sense that they continued accidentally into another cycle. The future may have been drastically different if Hitler died.

May have been?


Well there was all that destruction of cities and rebuilding in between the 20th and 31st centuries. So it depends on how much of an effect each destruction had on the future, say if they completely started over or if the past affected them greatly.
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« Reply #58 on: 07-30-2010 06:27 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 08:43 »

One thing i thought was strange;  When the Time Machine is showing the replay of BWaBB, there is a mysterious man standing next to Hermes, Amy, and Leela, watching as Yivo controls the Professor.  Any thoughts as to who this may be?  (Time in ep 19:00/21:00)

Here's the frame for it:


On a side note, I thought they missed an opportunity by not letting Fry step out in the year 2000.

Hitler says (I think, the last word is hard to make out) "Look at my mustache" in somewhat awkward German (google-translated?): "Betrachten Sie meinen Schnurrbart."
Frisco17

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« Reply #59 on: 07-30-2010 06:29 »

It should be Wernstrom, they just didn't draw him very well.
Kryten

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« Reply #60 on: 07-30-2010 06:36 »

*squint*

That doesn't even look remotely like WEEEERRRRNNNSTROM.
ThatDude
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« Reply #61 on: 07-30-2010 06:38 »

I just found this board, never knew it exsisted, I feel at home.. lol

Love this episode, though, you can't go wrong with Futurama, I loved every episode since day one....

@Frisco.... I don't know.... Wernstrom has been around since season one, I think they would remember drawing him.. might be one of those Futurama clues! Guess we'll have to wait until they explain it or in the commentary on the DVD....
Frisco17

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« Reply #62 on: 07-30-2010 06:40 »

That's why I said it should be Wernstrom. I know it doesn't look like him but he was the only other person there at the time. Why they drew him like that I couldn't tell you.
serialkillingyou

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« Reply #63 on: 07-30-2010 06:49 »

THAT WAS AWESOME!
Smarty

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« Reply #64 on: 07-30-2010 06:54 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 06:59 »

Maybe he was distantly related to Eleanor Roosevelt Hitler, and his death caused him to never be born, so some random guy decided to be there.

Edit: the scene happened in he first cycle, right?
Cube_166

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« Reply #65 on: 07-30-2010 07:03 »

Best episode.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #66 on: 07-30-2010 07:08 »

Maybe he was distantly related to Eleanor Roosevelt Hitler, and his death caused him to never be born, so some random guy decided to be there.

Edit: the scene happened in he first cycle, right?
All those scenes happened in the first cycle, yes. So it's possible that happened.

Or the animators goofed.
Stan Darsh

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« Reply #67 on: 07-30-2010 07:11 »

Great episode, a lot of material, an episode that really makes you think. Definitely one that requires multiple viewings.

10/10 for now, one of the best episodes in a LONG time and definitely the best of the season so far.
Freako

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« Reply #68 on: 07-30-2010 07:14 »

They got Scruffy and Wornstrum mixed into one character.
vonboy
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« Reply #69 on: 07-30-2010 07:17 »

Maybe he was distantly related to Eleanor Roosevelt Hitler, and his death caused him to never be born, so some random guy decided to be there.

Edit: the scene happened in he first cycle, right?
that scene was on the first cycle, so maybe something like that. i guess whoever he was, he probably isn't there anymore in the second cycle (or the one they stopped in).
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #70 on: 07-30-2010 07:22 »

The callbacks made me smile, ah the years.

My, GOD, Freako. It's been 11 years! ELEVEN! BEST. WASTED. TIME. EVER.
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #71 on: 07-30-2010 07:30 »

This was an amazing episode! Another sappy ending. I'm NOT gonna cry...I'm not...gonna...cr-r--ryy... *Nibblonian Leader wipes his eyes* ... I'll be...ri--right...BAAAAACK!!!  cry*Runs away*
leiapadme77

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« Reply #72 on: 07-30-2010 07:34 »

Ah! That was amazing! Among my absolute all time favourites like The Sting, and Bender's Big Score!

So many things I loved.....
like when they finally get back to the 31st century and they watch as time goes by in the Planet Express building and we see moments from things like A Taste of Freedom and Future Stock.
Beautifully done, I hope it wins an Emmy.

And yeah, I cried.
Aki

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« Reply #73 on: 07-30-2010 08:01 »

Oh... your... god!

This was amazing. I've seen it once and already consider calling it the best episode yet. Emotional, science-fictiony, funny... just perfect. The one thing I could complain about is letting off some of the jokes and focus more on the final "have a beer and watch the universe end" scenes, for example some of the stops seemed unnecessary, and I loved the Planet of the Apes joke... until the fourth or so. They could have ended with the birds, or even the apes.

Sorry, I'm nitpicking. This episode was just wonderful... the solution was great, and when Leela read the card I started crying, it seemed so wonderful. Some of the jokes were really great as well, I loled at Hedonism Bot's "there were bodies everywhere, then the explosion came". The callbacks were great as well, the many time travels in the show had to be mentioned.

Oh, and I half expected Fry to step out in the year 2000, at least have a check or whatnot.

Review at reviews.theinfosphere.org coming up.
Shinkinrui
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« Reply #74 on: 07-30-2010 08:04 »

This episode was absolutely amazing. Loved it.

Also, the mysterious figure in the scene from BwBB ... could it possibly be David X's cameo?
Ghost and Horse

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« Reply #75 on: 07-30-2010 08:04 »

Fantastic episode. Easily one of my favorites. Solid 10/10.

Great story, Great science fiction, great comedy, great emotion, great call backs, great everything.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #76 on: 07-30-2010 08:08 »

This episode was absolutely amazing. Loved it.

Also, the mysterious figure in the scene from BwBB ... could it possibly be David X's cameo?
First of all, that is not DXC. Second of all, he was to appear as a head in a jar.
rockafeller
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« Reply #77 on: 07-30-2010 08:13 »

This episode was absolutely amazing. Loved it.

Also, the mysterious figure in the scene from BwBB ... could it possibly be David X's cameo?

David X Cohen has glasses... don't think it references him.

Loved the episode - and as I've said before, Christopher Tyng... AMAZING.

9/10
vonboy
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« Reply #78 on: 07-30-2010 08:46 »

i must know what that time traveling song was parading.

anybody?
Aki

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« Reply #79 on: 07-30-2010 08:46 »

i must know what that time traveling song was parading.

anybody?
Maybe you should read the topic through before posting?
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