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Aki

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« Reply #160 on: 07-27-2010 01:34 »

Already mentioned, seattlejohn01. Though I don't think anyone can argue with 1, your second complain has a simple explanation. The assembly line showed when he was finalized. Hermes checking him as a baby was mid-way through, he was later on changed into an adult.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #161 on: 07-27-2010 01:39 »
« Last Edit on: 07-27-2010 01:40 »

Ok, that could work.  Not really complaints, just minor contradictions, kinda like Bender being 30% iron, platinum, zinc & chromium.  Minor fun stuff like that.  Loved that episode...
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #162 on: 07-27-2010 06:05 »

Actually, seattlejohn01, it was a Floppy Disk. Sorry, but...
C:/OSrun Nerdy_Powers.exe!!!!!!
Frida Waterfall

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« Reply #163 on: 07-27-2010 06:10 »

After watching this episode a few time, I find that it really contradicts "Rebirth" and many other moments. While this episode was nice, I wouldn't take the conclusion that "if Bender dies, he dies" seriously. There are way too many ways for him to return. The Planet Express crew just must have not noticed any of those ways, ranging from taking past records of the individual Bender and merging them into a sentient being through a blank body or by using that rebirthing fluid mixture on his remains.

Besides the major contradiction to the episode that aired less than a month beforehand, it was still an excellent episode (once you finally get yourself to drop all possibilities).

Oh yeah, I don't want to look like a total idiot. The first time I watched it I never expected for Hermes to be Inspector #5. There's two things I must mention about that to clear my reputation. One, I barely had any time to even process the obvious possibility. You see, with the Comcast package, the program you watch is recorded. Apart from a few interruptions and a few freeze-frames early on for the "Sith-al War" reenactment, when I usually went to watch it live, the commercial breaks were already passed (ya, I know, lame excuse, huh?). Two, when they got to Hermes's former home, I actually thought that the lizard was going to be Inspector #5. I'm serious- I thought that when the lizard crawled into Bender's eye and out him, Bender was going to recognize that the lizard did something during that short time it was inside. Bizarre, almost anti-climatic ending, I know, but I had high hopes for that lizard...
Kryten

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« Reply #164 on: 07-27-2010 06:41 »

- He's Mexican, I'm Mexican. Let me handle this.
- Sus papelos, por favor?
- ....Siiiiii.
*guitar crashes over head*
- OUCHO!!!!!!

^ Made me laugh the very hardest

That's what he gets for messing with El Kabong.
winna

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« Reply #165 on: 07-27-2010 10:29 »

That makes sense Frida.  Anyways I cried from this episode.  Also I exploded in my pants.
Aki

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« Reply #166 on: 07-27-2010 11:37 »

Waterfall, I have to disagree with you about the contradictions.

1) The rebirth machine returned Bender as he was right before the crash, with all the memories, dents and whatever that he had before returning. If he was to gain a defect (their version of illness if so will) and die, he would be returned with that illness, only to die again. Just like throwing Leela into the rebirth machine again wouldn't get her out of her coma, she'd only return exactly the same as before being thrown in.

2) Yes, his personality is saved in cameras (and can probably easily be saved as a backup), but that wouldn't help much if he didn't have his body - the different bending units are not exactly the same and supposedly you couldn't just take, say, Flexo and put in Bender's in-your-face interface instead of his. They aren't compatible.
Gorky

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« Reply #167 on: 07-27-2010 15:52 »

After watching this episode a few time, I find that it really contradicts "Rebirth" and many other moments. While this episode was nice, I wouldn't take the conclusion that "if Bender dies, he dies" seriously. There are way too many ways for him to return. The Planet Express crew just must have not noticed any of those ways, ranging from taking past records of the individual Bender and merging them into a sentient being through a blank body or by using that rebirthing fluid mixture on his remains.

Besides the major contradiction to the episode that aired less than a month beforehand, it was still an excellent episode (once you finally get yourself to drop all possibilities).

I'm with Aki here: "Rebirth" basically took the concept of death and laughed right in its big ugly face. In that episode, every character was as good as immortal anyway. "Lethal Inspection", meanwhile, was about Bender coming to terms with the fact that, contrary to what he thought in "Rebirth", there are some things that can kill him.

I know that's a stretch, but if you look at it that way, "Lethal Inspection" is kind of a logical follow-up to "Rebirth."
LobsterMooch
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« Reply #168 on: 07-27-2010 16:39 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2011 18:42 »

 cry
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #169 on: 07-27-2010 22:35 »

Good ep, not outstanding but yeah, enjoyed it...
Ralph Snart

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« Reply #170 on: 07-28-2010 00:20 »

Also I exploded in my pants.

Ewwwww!

You really need to get more women in your life, Winna.
speedracer
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« Reply #171 on: 07-28-2010 01:11 »

After watching this episode a few time, I find that it really contradicts "Rebirth" and many other moments. While this episode was nice, I wouldn't take the conclusion that "if Bender dies, he dies" seriously. There are way too many ways for him to return. The Planet Express crew just must have not noticed any of those ways, ranging from taking past records of the individual Bender and merging them into a sentient being through a blank body or by using that rebirthing fluid mixture on his remains.

Besides the major contradiction to the episode that aired less than a month beforehand, it was still an excellent episode (once you finally get yourself to drop all possibilities).

Oh yeah, I don't want to look like a total idiot. The first time I watched it I never expected for Hermes to be Inspector #5. There's two things I must mention about that to clear my reputation. One, I barely had any time to even process the obvious possibility. You see, with the Comcast package, the program you watch is recorded. Apart from a few interruptions and a few freeze-frames early on for the "Sith-al War" reenactment, when I usually went to watch it live, the commercial breaks were already passed (ya, I know, lame excuse, huh?). Two, when they got to Hermes's former home, I actually thought that the lizard was going to be Inspector #5. I'm serious- I thought that when the lizard crawled into Bender's eye and out him, Bender was going to recognize that the lizard did something during that short time it was inside. Bizarre, almost anti-climatic ending, I know, but I had high hopes for that lizard...

It's pretty easy to weasel out of the rather far-reaching implications of "Rebirth" if you just say that the rebirthing project isn't repeatable or somesuch.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #172 on: 07-28-2010 01:28 »

Also I exploded in my pants.

Ewwwww!

You really need to get more women in your life, Winna.
Don't encourage him.  Besides, he forgot to mention that he shoved a grenade down his pants.
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #173 on: 07-28-2010 01:52 »

Aah, the "grenade down your pants" trick. Too many people have tried to make this true.
Fnord
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« Reply #174 on: 07-28-2010 07:32 »


Here's a thought about "Lethal Inspection" that no one seems to have posted ... If robots really are "immortal", then what's the point of the Robot Mafia?

And here's my review of "That Darn Katz!": Stupid title.
winna

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« Reply #175 on: 07-28-2010 07:40 »

Also I exploded in my pants.

Ewwwww!

You really need to get more women in your life, Winna.

What? So they can take advantage of me and claw my heart to little shreds?
Jezzem

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« Reply #176 on: 07-28-2010 08:01 »

Here's a thought about "Lethal Inspection" that no one seems to have posted ... If robots really are "immortal", then what's the point of the Robot Mafia?

Thr Robot Mafia does Mafia stuff more efficiently, everyone knows that. Also, if you recall A Tale of Two Santas, they also do mafia stuff to humans.

And here's my review of "That Darn Katz!": Stupid title.

No, you shut up!
Fnord
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« Reply #177 on: 07-28-2010 20:40 »

And here's my review of "That Darn Katz!": Stupid title.

No, you shut up!

I think you just failed the Turing Test there, Jezzem ...
ShepherdofShark

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« Reply #178 on: 07-28-2010 21:23 »

Awwww. Dat was sho shweet at the end. Pretty average as eps go but still nice.
FemJesse

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« Reply #179 on: 07-28-2010 21:48 »

I'm just waiting for the inevitable "The New Futuramas are the Holocaust and David X Cohen is Hitler" argument.

Has it happened yet or did I miss it?
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #180 on: 07-28-2010 21:59 »

Actually, I think we already covered Godwin's Rule in another thread.
FemJesse

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« Reply #181 on: 07-29-2010 01:09 »

It seems as though the people calling themselves Futurama fans that use this website are but a stone's throw away from invoking the rule.
JBERGES

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« Reply #182 on: 07-29-2010 01:21 »

Alright, after two pretty average episodes I really liked this one.  The beginning was unfortunately slow, and I'm huge fan of good puns so that Darth stuff, "Sith-ll," and "What the Hoth" were cringe inducing in all the wrong ways.  After that though, it really picked up.  The second two acts were great, and I enjoyed the dynamic of the Bender/Hermes interaction.  The ending was spoiled for me while I was at comic-con, so I can't attest to how good the twist was, but it was sweet nonetheless.

"And he's not turning back to look at that cool explosion... he's a hero!"
8/10
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #183 on: 07-29-2010 01:36 »

It seems as though the people calling themselves Futurama fans that use this website are but a stone's throw away from invoking the rule.
Some, but not most.  I've liked the new episodes, and really enjoy the writing.  It sometimes took me 2-3 viewings of the classic episodes to really like them, and that's happening here as well; the more I view them, the better I like them.
pluche93

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« Reply #184 on: 07-29-2010 01:42 »

It seems as though the people calling themselves Futurama fans that use this website are but a stone's throw away from invoking the rule.
Some, but not most.  I've liked the new episodes, and really enjoy the writing.  It sometimes took me 2-3 viewings of the classic episodes to really like them, and that's happening here as well; the more I view them, the better I like them.

same thing for me smile except for AOTKA, strangely the more i watch it, the less i like it... frown
buglady77
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« Reply #185 on: 07-29-2010 03:56 »

I just gotta say thank god they got away from all the stupid pop-culture stuff.  This was classic Futurama for me!  Looooooooooove it!
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #186 on: 07-29-2010 05:19 »

It seems as though the people calling themselves Futurama fans that use this website are but a stone's throw away from invoking the rule.

Almost there, Fem. It's already been compared to Family Guy.
Jezzem

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« Reply #187 on: 07-29-2010 08:19 »

And here's my review of "That Darn Katz!": Stupid title.

No, you shut up!

I think you just failed the Turing Test there, Jezzem ...


And here I thought I was just making reference to an episode of Futurama...
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #188 on: 07-29-2010 08:24 »

It seems as though the people calling themselves Futurama fans that use this website are but a stone's throw away from invoking the rule.

Almost there, Fem. It's already been compared to Family Guy.

AOTKA was a pretty Family Guy-esque episode. Lethal Inspection, on the other hand is about as far removed from Family Guy as it's possible to get.
Jezzem

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« Reply #189 on: 07-29-2010 08:34 »

AOTKA wasn't really like Family Guy at all. I would've said that some of the stuff in the episode had more of a South Park-ey vibe to it...

Not that I didn't actually enjoy the episode...
Aki

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« Reply #190 on: 07-29-2010 14:50 »

"Like Family Guy" to me is a synonym for "going with a forced joke and taking it twenty times to make sure everyone got it before moving on". Ofcourse that can happen on any show and yes, Futurama has done it. But I wouldn't say AotKA i much Family Guy-y.
Rhodan

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« Reply #191 on: 07-29-2010 21:36 »

Only part I didnīt like was the Sithal war opening. I like Star Wars (altough I am not SW nerd) and I know continung joke that sci-fi is Futuramīs world history but that should be reserved for sight jokes not implications there really is/was real Sith empire somewhere.

This episode surprised me, as I thought that main theme will be Benderīs mortality itself, not inspectorīs identity and itīs strange how we discovered that Bender is different from the other robots in a way we never knew that even exists, but I still liked pairing of Bender and Hermes .It was one point below Bender and Amy, though.

8/10 
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #192 on: 07-29-2010 22:48 »

I just took it as go that most robots have that same back-up unit, not that Bender was anything special.
Aki

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« Reply #193 on: 07-29-2010 23:41 »

Me too, I think what they meant was that all robots (or all by Mom's) are created with a backup unit.
Dr`Zoidberg

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« Reply #194 on: 07-30-2010 04:06 »

Surprisingly good for the new season. 7/10.
Nibblonian Leader

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« Reply #195 on: 07-30-2010 07:27 »

The funny thing is, Hitler was in the new episode. FARNSWORTH IS A FREEDOM FIGHTER!
Rhodan

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« Reply #196 on: 07-30-2010 19:44 »

Me too, I think what they meant was that all robots (or all by Mom's) are created with a backup unit.

And we never heard about it.
Zmithy

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« Reply #197 on: 07-30-2010 22:42 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2010 22:47 »

Great episode, gave it a 9, would have been 10 without the Sithil War stuff taking a little too long to get across the "bender fears death" point.

I loved the conversation about coping with mortality, it lampooned one of the things I really don't understand about humanity, the fact that our desire not to die, combined with our modern secular society hasn't completely driven us all insane with fear, or driven us to dedicate our life efforts to the pursuit of immortality... instead we fill our lives with enough trivia and distractions to avoid thinking about the subject, and reserve our most irrational emotional reactions for dealing with the concept of oblivion.
Most people I ask either have Fry's reaction or a similarly pathetic "I'll be dead so I won't know I'm dead!", "It's living now that's important!" statement that neatly sidesteps the horror.

Was a very bold subject to put in a cartoon, and not one that gets mentioned much on TV either*, I love how Futurama briefly touches on stuff like that and gets the point across with a few lines of humour. smile

*most recent other example I can think of are the hints on Stargate Universe that Rush is motivated by finding a scientific solution to end human mortality.
PazuzuJr

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« Reply #198 on: 07-31-2010 21:58 »

i was prepared not to like this episode.... i'm not a big Star Wars fan so i didn't get the opening, it took me a while to even realise the joke was starwares related.
I loved How Hermes Requisitioned his groove back, so was quite opptimistic after we saw the Central Bureaucracy, but again was disappointed with the office cube bit (Gee, I always thought giant cubes were pretty exciting up until now indeed!)
But after that, i think it started to pick up its pace and the ending more than redeemed itself! It was so obvious but i didn't seem Hermes as #5 coming.... and the end with baby bender was ridiculous, but adorable! And for that sceen alone, my rating goes from 6 to 8!
Taco Wiz

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« Reply #199 on: 08-01-2010 17:06 »

I could see the "twist" ending coming from a mile away.
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