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Brock Baker
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« Reply #80 on: 07-09-2010 08:51 »

I always like the episodes more after watching it a second time. Overall, I thought the episode was great, best so far of the new season! The ghost and horse gag was gold. As everyone else said though, the circusitis joke was bad. It might have worked if it hadn't been so random.

Did anyone else notice a cameo by "Gay Robot" in a few scenes? It's a web series by Nick Swardson. That caught me off guard.

Anywho: 9/10

Even after a few stinkers this season, I'll still be watching every week, I'm just glad it's back. Let's hope it doesn't leave yet again.
seattlejohn01

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« Reply #81 on: 07-09-2010 09:35 »

Well, this was by far the best episode of the season so far; I'd put it right up there with the pre-cancellation episodes.  Let's hope they keep the quality up like this...
wowbagger

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« Reply #82 on: 07-09-2010 09:43 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 09:45 »

Good episode, probably not as funny as last weeks, but still brilliant.  My favourite line was probably Morbo (as always) with "I HAAATTED JIM!"

Also, is it just me, or was Smitty the cop's voice different in this episode?
seattlejohn01

Space Pope
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« Reply #83 on: 07-09-2010 09:45 »

Loved the George Takai's head part of the episode.  "Ohhh myyyyy..."
Freako

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« Reply #84 on: 07-09-2010 10:27 »

Farnsworth and Preacherbot's voices were a bit off as well as another that I forgot.
I didn't find the circusitis bit at all amusing and some of the over the top sexual stuff wasn't really needed.

I was alright, but I have to watch it a couple more times still.
Future Shock

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« Reply #85 on: 07-09-2010 10:40 »

Man, this thread is filling up fast.

I dunno... did anyone else feel this episode was like a sketch show? It was rather fast-paced and transitioned between scenes a lot. There were some pretty good jokes in there, but I didn't get it like the other episodes. Oh well.
Rush

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« Reply #86 on: 07-09-2010 10:47 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 11:06 »

9/10 from me.

Morbo: What's next?! Gay robosexual marriage?

A side from many other lines that was the funniest line in the whole episode, I think.

Kif and Amy got back together in an unusual way at the end riding off into the sun set on a motorbike listening to abusive "love music"?

Also a new part of the Planet Express ship was revealed the basement, to take cover from the tornados.
Tweek

UberMod
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« Reply #87 on: 07-09-2010 10:58 »

I gave it 9/10, this was classic Futurama without lame pop culture references to things which will be forgotten pretty soon.
Lyra

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« Reply #88 on: 07-09-2010 11:49 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 11:53 »

I thought Kiff wasn't as devoted to Amy as he's used to be. I get it was for the sake of the plot and he ended up changing in the end for her, but his devotion for Amy was what made me  like the pairing in the first place.

Loved "Time to beat him his rights", the return of Amy's parents, Fry rescuing Amy, the 'No' add, "Exhibit A" in the ring and for some reason I loved the pickle jaars with weather in it (not that it added anything to the plot, but they were cute).

Awesome episode!
Juliet

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« Reply #89 on: 07-09-2010 11:52 »

Aww I loved the episode. Bender and Amy looked so cute together
Freako

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« Reply #90 on: 07-09-2010 11:54 »

Next stop, 34!
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #91 on: 07-09-2010 12:00 »

I enjoyed it. I don't like it as much as Rebirth but it's certainly the first episode from the new season that feels like it could have been part of the original run to me.
I'm not too keen on the plot, in fact I'd say I almost have the same level of problems with characterisation as I did with In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela, but this episode was actually funny so I don't mind so much. It had some great moments and I can tell that I'm going to appreciate a lot of the humour more with repeat viewings. All in all, it gives me a lot of hope for things to come. There weren't any cringey jokes for me which is the first time this whole season (even Rebirth had Leela's screams and the terminator robot voices).

And for the record, I loved Hermes' circusitis.
LorenzoDuke

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« Reply #92 on: 07-09-2010 12:34 »

Not great, but decent. Certainly better than the last two abominations.

Some good jokes - a few that fell flat, but a decent hit rate.

Parts of the plot felt contrived. The 'let's wrap everything up in 90 seconds and restore the status quo' thing is an annoying habit. One of the reasons that The Simpsons is so stale is it's staunch refusal to progress or have characters & relationships develop. It looks like Futurama may be following suit (if they  can completely write off Fry & Leela's relationship for the sake of sticking to the familiar format, clearly we aren't' going to see any earth shattering changes anytime soon).

Anyway, pretty good episode. Hope things continue to improve.
EvilChicken

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« Reply #93 on: 07-09-2010 12:47 »

I rate it at 9/10, it was the best episode so far!
I loved how so many random stuff happened in this episode, like the big clock with it's "IT'S FOUR O' CLOCK" that tickled me, and Hermes' circusitis was randomly funny! I loved the way this episode finally wasn't about Fry or/and Leela, I do love a Fry and Leela episode, but it's nice to have a break. The cameos were good, I noticed the censor people (the ones who wear the dress and pants with a black line over their 'parts'). The scene with Amy and Bender kissing whiles spinning in the tornado was quite romantic (until they fell obviously) I hope that the Banksy style Bender tiles become a thing to find in backgrounds in future episodes. The ending was nice with Kiff trying to be a bad boy, I love Amy and Kiff's relationship.
AdrenalinDragon

Bending Unit
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« Reply #94 on: 07-09-2010 12:50 »

It was pretty good. There were alot of decent jokes, many more like old Futurama's style, though the episode's ending felt a little rushed with Farnsworth's reasonings, and I'm glad Bender broke up with Amy (I was a little worried it might have continued past the episode). It was nice seeing Roberto and Hyper-Chicken in there, plus Preacherbot came out with some good moments as well. One joke that didn't work too well for me was Hermes' Circusitis, but there were more hits than misses, and this one felt more like Futurama than the previous 2 episodes up to this point. A solid 8/10 on first viewing for me at least.
Books

Near Death Star Inhabitant
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« Reply #95 on: 07-09-2010 13:01 »

It was a okay episode, I didn't like the thing with zpooidableg

Stone

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« Reply #96 on: 07-09-2010 13:40 »

my favourite line was.

"i am glad, that i didnt live long enough to see that day. wait. noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
Zoo Station

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« Reply #97 on: 07-09-2010 13:59 »

I also got a kick out of Bender wearing Chewbacca's feet in Forbidden Planet Hollywood. That was one of the biggest laughs for me.
Svip

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« Reply #98 on: 07-09-2010 14:03 »

I am going out on a limp here to make some production speculation.  It would seem to me that the writers and producers were well aware of the fact that they were going to be given the Thursday broadcast on Comedy Central for new episodes.  However, I am willing to argue that they actually were under the idea that they should start earlier.

Remember that there was a rumour that the new season would be begin 10 June 2010?  But that was skipped 2 weeks back to 24 June.

I think this episode was originally intended to air on 1 July this year, making "Rebirth" airing on 10 June, "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela" on 17 June and "Attack of the Killer App" on 24 June.

Why?  Well, in addition to the rumour, I also found calendar's comment (Todd's) comment a bit off.  Why would he make a comment about it being Canada Day, if it wasn't going to air that day?

Just a thought.
Jarvio

Bending Unit
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« Reply #99 on: 07-09-2010 14:27 »

I liked it. Lots of funny jokes, and much better than last week's.

My ratings of series 6 so far:
1 Proposition Infinity
2 Rebirth
3 In-A-Gagga-Da-Leela
4 Attack Of The killer App
Svip

Space Pope
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« Reply #100 on: 07-09-2010 14:39 »

My highlights in this episode:

Wine bucket: "Hopes... deleted."
And the mention of Wailing Fungus ( http://theinfosphere.org/Wailing_Fungus )
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #101 on: 07-09-2010 14:50 »

I knew I should recognize that Wailing Fungus reference, but I just couldn't place it. Much obliged, Svip.

I liked that whole dinner scene with Amy, Inez, and Leo: "If you finish that word, you kill your parents" and "We're your family, and if you can't talk about your problem with us, that would be great" were both hysterical. I feel like there were isolated scenes in this episode that were downright hilarious (the crew screaming at each other trying to capture the tornado, the Proposition Infinity ad, Bender being bailed out and the subsequent Kif/Amy break-up, and the following scene at Forbidden Planet Hollywood), but the overall plot trajectory just didn't seem right to me. They glossed over Farnsworth's opposition to robosexual marriage, and Bender and Amy breaking up and Amy and Kif's subsequent reunion.

And I still don't really buy their relationship in the first place, because I think it goes against the modicum of character development that came about when Amy committed herself to Kif. Sleeping with Zapp in "The Beast With a Billion Backs" seemed much more in character than ending a long-term relationship with Kif and immediately entering a serious relationship with Bender. I understand that the pairing was a vehicle for social satire, but the Proposition 8 send-up itself was so rushed anyway.
Svip

Space Pope
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« Reply #102 on: 07-09-2010 14:52 »

Well, Bender can get over things much faster than you humans.

"You have much to teach us."
nasarius
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« Reply #103 on: 07-09-2010 14:53 »

without lame pop culture references to things which will be forgotten pretty soon.

Well, except for the "storm" ad. That's already pretty old, and I think it would have been forgotten completely by now if Colbert hadn't already done a parody.
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/224789/april-16-2009/the-colbert-coalition-s-anti-gay-marriage-ad

Like everyone else, I thought the circus-itis joke was just strange and out of place. Great episode otherwise, far better than the last two. It's the first one of the season that I truly enjoyed watching.
Svip

Space Pope
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« Reply #104 on: 07-09-2010 14:56 »

I'll like to compare people's least favourite things of this episode and the previous one.  The circusitis joke was short lived and they didn't hold on to it.  And on rewatch, it's not that terrible.  For instance, I still hate the "Will the owner of a [...]" joke in "The Why of Fry"; much more out of place and much more cringe worthy than this circusitis joke.

The circusitis was not cringe worthy, only eyebrow lifting worthy, much unlike the Susan Boil thing.

In general, this episode wasn't as low as the previous episode.  Gag wise.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #105 on: 07-09-2010 14:56 »

Well, Bender can get over things much faster than you humans.

"You have much to teach us."

Yeah, but my gripe is more with Amy getting over Kif so quickly. I mean, why bother reuniting them at the end of "Into the Wild Green Yonder" if you were just going to break them up soon thereafter? This episode didn't need to be about Kif and Amy breaking up, or Kif and Amy reuniting; I think it would have made more sense (and been less rushed) if Kif and Amy had just never reconciled after the events of "The Beast With a Billion Backs."

I'm just nitpicking, though. Also, after having rewatched the episode, I enjoy it a little more. But there are still a lot of things that don't sit right with me (Farnsworth's illicit affair with a robot, for starters), and I just didn't enjoy this one as much as I did the first three episodes of the season.
wu_konguk

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« Reply #106 on: 07-09-2010 14:57 »

Well the episode made me laugh alot more than the episodes this season so far, which is certainly a good thing. The Nixon poster did make me laugh out loud ( got me thinking though that there should be a new President by now as Nixon was elected in seson 2 which must be at least 8 years prior to this episode)

The bad, perhaps a tad preachy but not at the leave of some South Park episodes and although you new the ending was coming from before even seeing the episode it was slightly disappointing that they did not try something more adventurous but as Fry said all those years ago

"It was just a matter of knowing the secret of all TV shows: At the end of the episode, everything's always right back to normal."
Svip

Space Pope
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« Reply #107 on: 07-09-2010 15:00 »

Well the episode made me laugh alot more than the episodes this season so far, which is certainly a good thing. The Nixon poster did make me laugh out loud ( got me thinking though that there should be a new President by now as Nixon was elected in seson 2 which must be at least 8 years prior to this episode)

No, it is only established that you cannot be elected more than twice.  Term limits are not mentioned.  It is also possible that Nixon had the constitution changed to avoid him running for reelection.  The latter of which I find a lot more plausible.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #108 on: 07-09-2010 15:16 »

9 / 10

Wonderful episode, filled with great jokes and references. I first thought it would seem out of character, but Amy has always been promiscious, and Bender... well, is Bender. The fact that he didn't realise that marriage is monogomous was hilarious. The ending was awesome as well, I was worried Amy and Kif wouldn't get back together.

I also liked how they took some time building up to Kif's and Amy's break-up, or else it would seem _really_ out of character for Kif. Getting to the point where he actually breaks up with Amy must be hard. The fact that Kif is afraid Amy thinks he is weak and that she has a thing for bad boys have also been established before.

Honestly, the season is really kicking in. When it started I was prepared for really weak episodes, but after the films I knew I would watch them no matter what, because even though it wouldn't be as good as the original run it would be better than most things on TV. I'm surprised of the season so far, and I would be happy if it would keep on this track (though we still haven't seen any real emotional ones, I'm certainly hoping for that).

My overall fav list so far:
1. Proposition Infinity
2. Rebirth
3. Attack of the Killer App
4. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela

But they're all so good. And then keep in mind I've only watched PI once and the rest at least 3 or 4 times!
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #109 on: 07-09-2010 15:19 »

Well, Bender can get over things much faster than you humans.

"You have much to teach us."

Yeah, but my gripe is more with Amy getting over Kif so quickly. I mean, why bother reuniting them at the end of "Into the Wild Green Yonder" if you were just going to break them up soon thereafter? This episode didn't need to be about Kif and Amy breaking up, or Kif and Amy reuniting; I think it would have made more sense (and been less rushed) if Kif and Amy had just never reconciled after the events of "The Beast With a Billion Backs."

I'm just nitpicking, though. Also, after having rewatched the episode, I enjoy it a little more. But there are still a lot of things that don't sit right with me (Farnsworth's illicit affair with a robot, for starters), and I just didn't enjoy this one as much as I did the first three episodes of the season.
Keep in mind that when they reunited Kif and Amy they didn't know if there was going to be another season. They just wanted things to be alright between all characters in the end, and if he didn't have Amy, Kif would be nothing, I'm sure.
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #110 on: 07-09-2010 15:22 »

Shit, I hadn't thought of that. That's a good point; Kif and Amy had to be reunited at the end of ItWGY because that very well could have been the last we'd see of them. And, I mean, it's understandable that they'd be going through a rough patch. But I still think that Amy hops into a (committed--and that's the part that gets me: committed, not fling-y) relationship with Bender much too quickly. Again, I get that it was necessary for the episode, but I guess I'm unwilling to see Amy as that, I don't know, flighty. Being with Kif always seemed to ground her.

Again, nitpicking. But I can't help it.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #111 on: 07-09-2010 15:25 »

Shit, I hadn't thought of that. That's a good point; Kif and Amy had to be reunited at the end of ItWGY because that very well could have been the last we'd see of them. And, I mean, it's understandable that they'd be going through a rough patch. But I still think that Amy hops into a (committed--and that's the part that gets me: committed, not fling-y) relationship with Bender much too quickly. Again, I get that it was necessary for the episode, but I guess I'm unwilling to see Amy as that, I don't know, flighty. Being with Kif always seemed to ground her.

Again, nitpicking. But I can't help it.
Completely agree, actually. I don't mind the ep as it is,but it would have been better if they went in as a fling and then when they realised the frowning upon their relationship they said they wanted a marriage just to mess with people, "we could if we wanted to".

Btw: Is it just me or is the scene with Bender and Amy making love in the tornado a reference to Cube 2: Hypercube (the scene where they make love floating around until they die and are turned into skeletons)? It may just be a similar scene with no connection, but it really looks alike imo.
Jezzem

Urban Legend
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« Reply #112 on: 07-09-2010 15:35 »

Okay, here goes:

I really liked this episode, I thought it had heaps of really funny gags (the Circus-itis thing, I didn't really mind but it certainly wasn't the funnies thing in the episode) and I loved the ending because of how in-character it was for Bender and how obvious it was that something like that was going to happen.

Anyway, it was a really good episode but I thought, storyline-wise, it was just slightly less great than Attack of the Killer App. Not bad, I just liked the story for Attack of the Killer App that little bit more than this one for some reason.

And I loved that there were some really funny sight gags in this episode, especially the Nixon "despair" poster.

I guess like an 8.5/10 or something? I don't know, reading through three pages of long reviews somehow exhausts me when I haven't had much sleep, okay?
Binder

Starship Captain
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« Reply #113 on: 07-09-2010 16:06 »

9/10, great episode for the season!
LobsterMooch
Professor
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« Reply #114 on: 07-09-2010 16:13 »
« Last Edit on: 12-01-2011 18:46 »

 cry
totalnerduk

DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #115 on: 07-09-2010 16:31 »

They missed an opportunity for a ghostbusters reference with the tornadoes. If the guns had fired particle beams and Leela had reminded them all not to cross the streams, that would have been fantastic. As it was, it was alright, but I expect more geekiness and stuff from Futurama.
tastepurple01

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« Reply #116 on: 07-09-2010 16:39 »

"You wouldn't know perversion if it put clamps on your testicles'  Great line .
9/10, Good jokes . Plus I liked the Bender ( Bansky) type graffiti at the start of episode.
soylentOrange

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« Reply #117 on: 07-09-2010 16:43 »

I didn't care much for this episode.  The robosexual marriage plot was too similar to every other gay-marriage plot done by every other animated show ever to be all that interesting to me, and the humor was a bit touch and go.  Some of the lines were good, like Amy's "Well, my parents may be evil, but at least they're stupid."  Others though were just... dumb.  The clown thing, for example.  And the preacher-bot getting off watching Bender and the others making out.  I'm sure next week's episode will be better.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #118 on: 07-09-2010 16:45 »

I thought the preacherbot getting off to watching the robosexuals "battle their demons" was really very funny. Probably because I was raised by Christian parents and got a lot of exposure to the various flavours of hypocrisy within the church.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #119 on: 07-09-2010 16:48 »

Adding to my previous review: This episode had some of the best one-liners in the history of Futurama. Okay, maybe not the best, but other episode often had one one-liner that was hilarious, this one had several hilarious ones, including "you wouldn't know perversion if it put clamps on your testicles" and "my parents may be evil, but at least they're stupid". Just great.
I thought the preacherbot getting off to watching the robosexuals "battle their demons" was really very funny. Probably because I was raised by Christian parents and got a lot of exposure to the various flavours of hypocrisy within the church.
It was ok, but I think it could have been skipped entirely. Sure, I too know of the Christian hypocrisy, but it could have been done much better.
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