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Spacedal11

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« Reply #40 on: 07-09-2010 05:16 »

I agree that this episode was probably the best so far. However I couldn't help but compare it to later Family Guy episodes like "Brian's Song" where a major character discovers something about them, goes through the entire episode devoted to change, only to return to normal. However unlike Family Guy, this was actually pretty funny. And I love the end, great Benderism and I freakin' loved Kiff's last moment.

Best quote of the night: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!
That was probably the worst quote of the night. They threw away Morbo.

And the ending was pure Bender. That's why the episode didn't feel out-of-character to me. And Amy's had a history with this personality, so it's not surprising.

Well I thought it was funny.
Zoo Station

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« Reply #41 on: 07-09-2010 05:17 »

Wow! That's a Kodak moment.

The 100% rating, I mean. That's what I get for not quoting.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #42 on: 07-09-2010 05:17 »

Well you thought WRONG!


Also, repost for it being BOTP'd:

It's officially the best episode ever. Nobody touch it!
speedracer
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« Reply #43 on: 07-09-2010 05:18 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 05:23 »

Just noticed that "Camp Rectifier" has a tapestry of a bridge rectifier circuit hanging over the fireplace.  Nice one.
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #44 on: 07-09-2010 05:20 »

Thanks to my first review, I gave it the 100% rating. That's what I get for posting a review before it's updated on the CGEF hompage that it was open. Rawrg.
leelaholic

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« Reply #45 on: 07-09-2010 05:23 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 05:25 »

I hope Armond White and Cole Smithey don't come along and ruin it.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #46 on: 07-09-2010 05:24 »

Didn't care for it. Too overbearing via the political/social satire, plus it involved the forcing together of two characters, and the destruction (if only temporarily) of a key relationship, in order to make a belabored point.

Well, there's always next week...
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #47 on: 07-09-2010 05:24 »

Wow, Leelaholic. You deleted that post in about two seconds. Or was that a moderator?
leelaholic

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« Reply #48 on: 07-09-2010 05:26 »

I deleted my comment because I thought it was a lame joke, but then put it back because fuck it.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #49 on: 07-09-2010 05:27 »

Anybody who didn't see that ending coming from five minutes into the episode clearly hasn't been paying attention.

Who said it wasn't preachy?  I think you accidentally added an "n't" to "was."  The only way it could have been preachier would have been if everybody against robosexualism had been portrayed as a repressed robosexual.  Oh, wait.

A big fat mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh from me.
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #50 on: 07-09-2010 05:28 »

but then put it back because fuck it.

The words of gods.
Bubble Gum

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« Reply #51 on: 07-09-2010 05:34 »

I was laughing so hard at the hot dog stand. Guess its just the demented part of me......

Also, was that Paulie Shore and Michelle making a cameo?
Kryten

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« Reply #52 on: 07-09-2010 05:35 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 05:36 »

Just noticed that "Camp Rectifier" has a tapestry of a bridge rectifier circuit hanging over the fireplace.  Nice one.

Ah, the return of geek humor.

I hope Armond White and Cole Smithey don't come along and ruin it.

I GET IT!

No I don't.
FishyJoe

Honorary German
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« Reply #53 on: 07-09-2010 05:36 »

Nixorbo: The humor was a bit one-sided, but I wouldn't say it was preachy. There is a difference. I guess my point is that the episode did not try to change anybody's minds. All it did was make fun of the whole debate. It wasn't serious about the issue at all.
Zoo Station

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« Reply #54 on: 07-09-2010 05:36 »

Also, was that Paulie Shore and Michelle making a cameo?

I noticed that too! There were so many cameos that I had trouble keeping up with all of them.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #55 on: 07-09-2010 05:36 »

Also, was that Paulie Shore and Michelle making a cameo?
Yes it was. I also saw Fanny and Donbot. There were lots of cameos in that scene. Now to rewatch it to see them all...
Gorky

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« Reply #56 on: 07-09-2010 05:40 »

Easily the worst episode of the season thus far, but it still wasn't awful. I thought the first act and a half was hysterical (although I thought Kif dumping Amy was a little contrived; didn't "Where the Buggalo Roam" establish that Amy kind of likes Kif's general wussiness?), but once Bender and Amy are rescued from their respective reprogramming camps (that was spot-on, although Preacher Bot getting all hot and bothered by the dummy action seemed less funny than disturbing and, yeah, like Nix said, heavy-handed), and all that Proposition Infinity stuff kicked it, it felt forced and unfunny and rushed. Farnsworth's past with a robot seemed not only lame and too easy, but also somewhat contradictory with all we know of his relationship with Mom. And Bender's break-up with Amy was obvious and necessary, but I still didn't care for it.

There were some really great one-liners, though (I loved "My parents may be evil, but at least they're stupid"; all of the stuff with Amy's parents was great), and the stuff that wasn't social commentary and a gay marriage send-up was decent. But the pacing in this one seemed off--some things were rushed and glossed-over, particularly in the third act--and I don't think this one will lend itself as well to repeat viewings.

So, yeah. It wasn't good, but it wasn't offensively bad. The first middle-of-the-road episode of the season, I'd say.

6/10
leelaholic

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« Reply #57 on: 07-09-2010 05:41 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 05:44 »

I GET IT!

No I don't.
Yeah, that was my expected reaction, and why I was going to delete it. We were talking about the episode having 100% on CGEF. Armond White and Cole Smithey are the critics who ruined Toy Story 3's 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Well, looks like tonight's episode is about to reair! Gonna see how it holds up.
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #58 on: 07-09-2010 05:45 »

I GET IT!

No I don't.
Yeah, that was my expected reaction, and why I was going to delete it. We were talking about the episode having 100% on CGEF. Armond White and Cole Smithey are the critics who ruined Toy Story 3's 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.

Well, looks like tonight's episode is about to reair! Gonna see how it holds up.
Oh, now I LOVE that joke! Haha, probably one of the smartest jokes I've heard in a while, actually. Unfortunately, you were right. Few people will get it. frown
Svip

Space Pope
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« Reply #59 on: 07-09-2010 05:46 »

This episode was decent enough.  No cringe moments or near cringe moments, which I consider a positive sign.

The plot wasn't totally solid.  Given Bender's opposing to humans dating robots in "I Dated a Robot", it sort of felt a bit off (but then again, this is Bender, maybe he was just pissed because he wasn't getting any).

But that wasn't my biggest issue, I felt that Farnsworth's reasoning for his opposing to robosexual marriage seemed... forced.  I realise I cannot think of a better last minute solution, but then again, I am not a television writer.  But continuity wise, it didn't bother me in the least.  Farnsworth even mentions in "Mother's Day" that Mom was his earliest love (or the earliest he still remembers), if he was ashamed of having dated a robot (something which is clearly established as taboo in the original run), he obviously would not have mentioned the whole affair with a robot.

Also, Kif and Amy's problem makes good sense to me.  It's quite a common issue in relationships, that initially you like it, but you later realise that part of the other is missing something, especially if the relationship remains stale.

No continuity problems from my point of view, and in fact, it was the direction this relationship needed to be taken.  I originally found Amy's preference for Kif a bit off, considering her character.  I mean, wouldn't she get bored with him eventually?

Eh!  Maybe I am overanalysing again.  Anyway, decent story, no sticking around too much with less than stellar jokes (such as the clown disease joke).
NastyInThePasty

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« Reply #60 on: 07-09-2010 05:49 »

"Momma say Spock you out. Ohhhhhh yeeeeaaaahhhhh." big grin
leelaholic

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« Reply #61 on: 07-09-2010 05:52 »
« Last Edit on: 09-15-2013 09:16 »

URL's such a badass.
NutritionFAQs

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« Reply #62 on: 07-09-2010 05:53 »

I think I would enjoy this episode more after a second viewing but I still believe the writers have alot to improve on. the one line I really enjoyed was from hermes, "we're talking about alot of things" haha
Gorky

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« Reply #63 on: 07-09-2010 05:54 »

Anyway, decent story, no sticking around too much with less than stellar jokes (such as the clown disease joke).

Ugh, that clown-itis joke was so freaking forced. I thought the "children of all ages" bit was funny, but it was just such a non-sequitur. There's a difference between Bender being on fire at the beginning of act three of "The Sting" ("for comedy", as Patric Verrone said), and Hermes having some lame-ass clown disease in the middle of a scene in which there's already a lot going on. That's what bugged me about it: it was random for randomness's sake, but it did nothing to enhance a scene that was already pretty funny (loved the gear marks on Amy's pants, which Bender was only wearing because he stole them).
FishyJoe

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« Reply #64 on: 07-09-2010 06:00 »

My logical brain agrees completely. It was pointless and random and it shouldn't be funny...but man did I laugh. His pills are filled with spring-snakes for crying out loud! And his feet are swollen! Haha...I loved it. I can't explain why.
speedracer
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« Reply #65 on: 07-09-2010 06:01 »

The crashed copter joke was directly lifted from the Stonecutters episode of the Simpsons.  Pretty lame.
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #66 on: 07-09-2010 06:02 »

Except it was funnier here.
GersonK

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« Reply #67 on: 07-09-2010 06:06 »

"Momma say Spock you out. Ohhhhhh yeeeeaaaahhhhh." big grin

That line alone nearly justifies the entire return. And also on the Trek side, another use of Cheronites amongst the couples at the rally.

Wasn't Bender dating Lucy Liu by the end of IDaR? Clearly, he was already a closet robosexual even then.

I thought the Circusitis jokes on their own were funny, even if they were shoehorned in - almost like orphans from a cut subplot.





Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #68 on: 07-09-2010 06:11 »

Anyway, decent story, no sticking around too much with less than stellar jokes (such as the clown disease joke).

Ugh, that clown-itis joke was so freaking forced. I thought the "children of all ages" bit was funny, but it was just such a non-sequitur. There's a difference between Bender being on fire at the beginning of act three of "The Sting" ("for comedy", as Patric Verrone said), and Hermes having some lame-ass clown disease in the middle of a scene in which there's already a lot going on. That's what bugged me about it: it was random for randomness's sake, but it did nothing to enhance a scene that was already pretty funny (loved the gear marks on Amy's pants, which Bender was only wearing because he stole them).

This.... plus Aqua Teen Hunger Force already did a show about a clown disease.
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #69 on: 07-09-2010 06:13 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 06:14 »

OOh! I forgot to mention! Fry sounds normal in this episode! No more Michael J. Fox Fry! HOORAY.

Oh and also, why did Leela scream when she got electrocuted? I thought she liked it?

EDIT: LOL, 69
totalnerduk

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« Reply #70 on: 07-09-2010 06:22 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 06:29 »

Very good episode compared to last week's. The characterisations were spot on except for Farnsworth, but I think perhaps he was just senile and idiotic. Background jokes are starting to creep back in, and yay for Sulu! 8/10, despite the awful Circusitis joke, and the overall moral-pushing that they seemed determined to do.

Plus, lol @ "pre-op transformer".
FemJesse

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #71 on: 07-09-2010 06:45 »

It was preachy but not too preachy. I think its unavoidable with the subject matter. The professor's girlfriend looked like my friend and that made laugh (the human version)

So now Amy's pretty much banged everyone... huh.

I loved the team's plan to rescue her, that part was really cute.
[-mArc-]

Administrator
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« Reply #72 on: 07-09-2010 06:47 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 07:08 »

Well, that thoroughly entertained the me in me.

It felt very much like Futurama, the jokes were spot on for me, and the robosexual / gay comment was well done without being preachy in my view.

A 9 for me.

PS: CGEF review form is up now.
Kryten

Space Pope
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« Reply #73 on: 07-09-2010 06:52 »

It may have been a bit anvilicious, but some anvils need to be dropped once in a while.

Yes, I am a total TVTropes addict, what of it?
bend_her

Professor
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« Reply #74 on: 07-09-2010 07:35 »

I consider this episode a return to form. Stand-out moments include Bender's song ("Let's goooooo"), Camp Rectifier (with the bridge rectifier symbol above the fireplace to boot!!! (pun!)), Zoidberg's line during Bender's rescue ("maybe we should have stayed in the ship") and every second George Takei was on screen/ Maybe it was all that beer I had, but I don't remember laughing this hard at any of the other episodes on this season.
seattlejohn01

Space Pope
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« Reply #75 on: 07-09-2010 07:38 »

"Momma say Spock you out. Ohhhhhh yeeeeaaaahhhhh." big grin
Easily the best line this season so far.
fryfanSpyOrama

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« Reply #76 on: 07-09-2010 07:39 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 07:44 »

This was good in general. Some miststeps (what was the point of that circusitis joke?), but otherwise good.

That scene where Bender and Amy talk about not letting their co-workers know about them having sex, reminds me of that fan fic you wrote where Fry and Amy do the same.

I loved this episode.  I was laughing every minute.  Best episode so far.  The clown disease was a little pointless, not like when Hermes had that brain slug, since it paid off later when Fry gets a brain slug for a funny scene.

I was glad to see Kif and Amy break up, since I was shocked to see Kif be all wussy again.  I thought he'd have gained a bigger backbone since he punched Zapp back in Wild Green Yonder.  I was hoping it would've ended with them not getting back together, leaving it open for a future episode.  Hopefully, Kif will man up a little.

I thought the commentary this show did was funny and really deals with the issue of gay marriage and how absurd opposing it really is.  Horse/ghost forever.
[-mArc-]

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« Reply #77 on: 07-09-2010 07:44 »

For some reason, I thought that the "It is 4am" thing was quite funny. Maybe I was just still tired from birds waking me up around 5am this morning
trickster381

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« Reply #78 on: 07-09-2010 07:51 »

This episode has completely screwed with my brain to the point where I have no idea how I feel about it. First, for the most part, I found it absolutely hilarious. With the exception of the clown joke, most the jokes had me laugh out loud, which I normally never due while watching a TV show. The tornado planet may have been random, but the entire scene with the crew about to "capture" one made me laugh the loudest of any episode I can remember.

Then there's the main plot of the episode. I didn't really have a problem with Amy and Bender, but the relationship seemed to literally appear out of thin air, which I thought was weird. Like mentioned, it would probably be more realistic for them to fight for rights because they both feel strongly for equality between humans and robots, and not cause they actually like each other. I liked the idea of the plot in general, because it's an important issue, but it could have been better. I also feel that the pacing was way to fast for the relationship. It obviously had to be to fit it into 22 minutes, but the timeline of Amy and Kif breaking up, to Amy dating again, to Amy and Bender hooking up, to the two of them having a relationship, to their struggle for acceptance from their peers, then to Amy and Bender getting married, then fighting to have the right to marry, then breaking up, and finally Amy getting back to Kif. That's a lot to cover.

Overall, I give the episode an 8/10 because though it had issues, I found it hilarious...
rockafeller
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« Reply #79 on: 07-09-2010 08:28 »

There were a lot of great jokes in this one.
"ITS 4 AM"
"We're talking about a lot of things!!"
"Maybe we should have waited in the ship?"
and whatever that wine box robot thing said - hahaha

I'm glad Hermes & Zoidberg are getting a lot of funnier lines "they're missing out on some hot pickle action!!"

also, glad to see roberto & hedonism bot as cameos.  but what's with the sudden SMS references?? ???
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