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« on: 07-08-2010 18:05 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 05:14 »

I feel like I'm repeating myself... Anyway!

The next new Futurama episode will be shown on Comedy Central at 10pm/9c tonight. Use this thread for reviews of "Proposition Infinity".

Beware of SPOILERS in this thread!


Don't forget to leave a short review on CGEF.
Nixorbo

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« Reply #1 on: 07-09-2010 04:07 »

One commercial break in.  WHAT.  THE.  HELL.
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« Reply #2 on: 07-09-2010 04:30 »

FYI: I am writing this review as I write this episode. Points may be jumping around a bit.

I give it 9/10. The best episode of this season. Hilarious! Hyper-Chicken's cameo was funny. But I thought that joke where Hermes has Circus-itus was Random and un-funny in general. Amy's parents returning was great and they're as funny as ever! And the return of the tranny-bot was great! The part where the robots have sex with the dummies (or possibly sex dolls?) is drawn out a bit and eventually gets disturbing, until Bender begins missing Amy and when Amy, Fry and Leela are in there and Bender finds it disgusting, when Zoidberg says, "Maybe we should have waited in the ship?"

I love the ring having a tag that read, "Exhibit A." Then Professor gives a funny line, and then an esurance commercial with a terrible actress. But anyway, back to the episode: Eew, unnecessary joke that involves Zoidberg getting cut open. Funnier during "Roswell That Ends Well," to be honest. "If you hate intolerance and being punched in the face by me, then you should sign Proposition Infinity," is one of my favorite Bender lines ever! No for infinity commercial was hilarious.

"We flipped a coin to see who would start, and Bender stole it. So he will go first."

Can't believe George Takei just said that.

Well, I better stop, it's starting to ramble. 9/10!
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« Reply #3 on: 07-09-2010 04:30 »

The jokes were spot on, but I wasn't a fan of the plot.  It seemed to have several inconsistencies and Amy/Bender seemed out of character.  Still, I think this was the best one yet for the season.  (Also wasn't a fan of Space Massachusetts).  
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« Reply #4 on: 07-09-2010 04:33 »

The jokes were spot on, but I wasn't a fan of the plot.  It seemed to have several inconsistencies and Amy/Bender seemed out of character.  Still, I think this was the best one yet for the season.  (Also wasn't a fan of Space Massachusetts). 

Agreed, 100%. My favorite joke was the Nixon poster saying "Despair."
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« Reply #5 on: 07-09-2010 04:34 »

The jokes were spot on, but I wasn't a fan of the plot.  It seemed to have several inconsistencies and Amy/Bender seemed out of character.  Still, I think this was the best one yet for the season.  (Also wasn't a fan of Space Massachusetts). 

Agreed, 100%. My favorite joke was the Nixon poster saying "Despair."

Oh yeah, forgot about that! Yeah, that was my favorite joke too.
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« Reply #6 on: 07-09-2010 04:35 »

It had a lot of great one-liners and call backs (Fanny being the first movie character to reappear), but overall it felt disjointed. I'm not talking character-wise. It actually made sense there, especially the end on Bender's part. In fact, the only character that felt out-of-character to me was the Professor. He's usually pretty liberal and free-spirited in his tendencies. But the random introduction of Planet Tornadus in the middle made no sense.

But I'm not saying it wasn't good. It was good social commentary, and I liked how many kinds of beings can be married in the future. Zoidberg and Hermes had some great lines, which is usually the sign of it being a good episode. And Takei had a great cameo (still waiting for a guest voice to be central to the plot though...). And it had a lot more background, sight, and quick gags more akin to the original 72.

Initial reaction: 7/10. I'll have to review though.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #7 on: 07-09-2010 04:35 »

Funniest post-72 episode so far. I was laughing the whole way through. Yay writers!

There were a few "huh?" gags...but overall it was quite funny, with some great on-target gay marriage humor.

I am curious as to what people thought of the Clown disease (I forget what they called it). Seemed kind of un-Futurama-like, but it cracked me up for some reason.
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« Reply #8 on: 07-09-2010 04:35 »

It felt oddly out of place and I expected Hermes to reference it later (like on Tornadus), so it was disjointed like Planet Tornadus, but I was laughing hard for it.
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« Reply #9 on: 07-09-2010 04:36 »

This was good in general. Some miststeps (what was the point of that circusitis joke?), but otherwise good.
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« Reply #10 on: 07-09-2010 04:37 »

I agree that this episode was probably the best so far. However I couldn't help but compare it to later Family Guy episodes like "Brian's Song" where a major character discovers something about them, goes through the entire episode devoted to change, only to return to normal. However unlike Family Guy, this was actually pretty funny. And I love the end, great Benderism and I freakin' loved Kiff's last moment.

Best quote of the night: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!
FishyJoe

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« Reply #11 on: 07-09-2010 04:37 »

This was good in general. Some miststeps (what was the point of that circusitis joke?), but otherwise good.

It's for children of all ages!
MovieMurderer

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« Reply #12 on: 07-09-2010 04:38 »

It felt oddly out of place and I expected Hermes to reference it later (like on Tornadus), so it was disjointed like Planet Tornadus, but I was laughing hard for it.

Eh, I didn't like the circuitis joke that much. At least was brief, I was scared it was going to be a sub-plot at first. Planet Tornadus was unnecessary too, but it made me laugh more, and that could have been more of a sub-plot, but wasn't.
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« Reply #13 on: 07-09-2010 04:38 »

Best episode of the new season without a doubt
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« Reply #14 on: 07-09-2010 04:39 »

I agree that this episode was probably the best so far. However I couldn't help but compare it to later Family Guy episodes like "Brian's Song" where a major character discovers something about them, goes through the entire episode devoted to change, only to return to normal. However unlike Family Guy, this was actually pretty funny. And I love the end, great Benderism and I freakin' loved Kiff's last moment.

Best quote of the night: DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!
That was probably the worst quote of the night. They threw away Morbo.

And the ending was pure Bender. That's why the episode didn't feel out-of-character to me. And Amy's had a history with this personality, so it's not surprising.
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« Reply #15 on: 07-09-2010 04:39 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 04:41 »

I liked it but it's probably my least-favorite of the season. There were some great one-liners and seeing Hyper-Chicken again was awesome. It just seemed really weird seeing Bender and Amy together and the Professor's story about dating a robot seemed out of place. I've always liked the fact that Futurama has some consistency and continuity but this episode seemed to toss a lot of that aside.

Fortunately Hermes and the Professor had some great lines and the cameos were great as usual. I still enjoyed it but it'll probably take a few more viewings for me to catch everything. 6/10
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« Reply #16 on: 07-09-2010 04:40 »

This was good in general. Some miststeps (what was the point of that circusitis joke?), but otherwise good.

It's for children of all ages!
That was one of the best lines. I have a feeling it'll be one of those community general lexicon lines, like COMACOMACOMACOMA COMA CHAMELEON! has become.
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« Reply #17 on: 07-09-2010 04:41 »

I liked it but it's probably my least-favorite of the season. There were some great one-liners and seeing Hyper-Chicken again was awesome. It just seemed really weird seeing Bender and Amy together and the Professor's story about dating a robot seemed out of place. I've always liked the fact that Futurama has some consistency and continuity but this episode seemed to toss a lot of that aside.

Fortunately Hermes and the Professor had some great lines and the cameos were great as usual. I still enjoyed it but it was just a bit too strange even for my tastes. 6/10
What are you talking about? The Professor is always strange!
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« Reply #18 on: 07-09-2010 04:41 »

I liked it but it's probably my least-favorite of the season.
That was my gut reaction too. I'll probably like it better on second viewing though.
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« Reply #19 on: 07-09-2010 04:42 »

I laughed pretty hard at Hermes' Circusitis, but I can see how some wouldn't like it. "Magic" jokes like this feel a little out of place in Futurama.

This episode was a mixed bag, but overall I found it hilarious. After a shaky start, it feels like a step in the right direction. Next week's episode looks awesome.
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« Reply #20 on: 07-09-2010 04:44 »

very disappointing...this is not Futurama. I am very concerned for the well being of Futurama and I really do hope that the series improves. This is my favorite show and it saddens me to see it so far away from the original run. I really hope the writers can get back into the groove of things and rediscover the humor and charm of the original run.
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« Reply #21 on: 07-09-2010 04:44 »

What are you talking about? The Professor is always strange!

I always enjoy the strangeness but it just seemed too convenient to have The Professor date a robot and have Bender suddenly change his mind about it. There was just something about it that didn't quite work for me but I'm hoping repeated viewings will change that. My score is just after one viewing and I know that Futurama episodes usually take multiple viewings to sink in so I'm just going with my current thoughts.

Wow, that sounded crazy!
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« Reply #22 on: 07-09-2010 04:45 »

The episode was ok. It was much better than last weeks.
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« Reply #23 on: 07-09-2010 04:46 »

My problem wasn't that the Professor's change was convenient, it was that it wasn't mentioned before. The Professor's always been the strange one when it comes to sexual norms, and he created the current robots, so it didn't make sense to me that he'd be opposed to robosexuality.
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« Reply #24 on: 07-09-2010 04:47 »

It felt oddly out of place and I expected Hermes to reference it later (like on Tornadus), so it was disjointed like Planet Tornadus, but I was laughing hard for it.

Eh, I didn't like the circuitis joke that much. At least was brief, I was scared it was going to be a sub-plot at first. Planet Tornadus was unnecessary too, but it made me laugh more, and that could have been more of a sub-plot, but wasn't.

Planet Tornadus at least had some relevance to the plot. The circusitis joke was a total Big-Lipped Aligator (or Big-Shoed Hermes) Moment.
That 80s Guy

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« Reply #25 on: 07-09-2010 04:49 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 04:50 »

Haha who knows if the Professor really even dated a robot?  He could just be senile and talking about total nonsense.  My real concern was with Amy and Bender.  Why was Amy so disappointed at Kif being a wuss?  It's not like that's something new - she's always liked his sensitive personality.  And Bender?  If he really (as a robot) was attracted to Amy, he probably would have tried to get with her a while ago (also, what are the logistics of Amy + Bender in bed?).  And there have been at least a couple cases of robosexuality throughout the series (Bender and Lucy Liu, Fry and robot Lucy Liu, Fry and robot Leela, Fry and the radiator), so why all the uproar now?
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« Reply #26 on: 07-09-2010 04:49 »

My problem wasn't that the Professor's change was convenient, it was that it wasn't mentioned before. The Professor's always been the strange one when it comes to sexual norms, and he created the current robots, so it didn't make sense to me that he'd be opposed to robosexuality.

That's a good way to put it. I know he opposed it in IDaR but he's usually so lax about things that I figured he didn't care enough to protest.
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« Reply #27 on: 07-09-2010 04:49 »

It felt oddly out of place and I expected Hermes to reference it later (like on Tornadus), so it was disjointed like Planet Tornadus, but I was laughing hard for it.

Eh, I didn't like the circuitis joke that much. At least was brief, I was scared it was going to be a sub-plot at first. Planet Tornadus was unnecessary too, but it made me laugh more, and that could have been more of a sub-plot, but wasn't.

Planet Tornadus at least had some relevance to the plot. The circusitis joke was a total Big-Lipped Aligator (or Big-Shoed Hermes) Moment.
BIG LIPPED ALLIGATOR MOMENT!

Hey, Big Shoed Hermes Moment... that could catch on! TO THE THATGUYWITHTHEGLASSES FORUMS!!!
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« Reply #28 on: 07-09-2010 04:51 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 05:14 »

Well...I liked it.  Maybe it's just my personal bias but pretty much everything out of the Professor's mouth was comedy gold (he's been great so far this season, and Billy West has never been better).  I thought the plot was a little more focused than the past two eps, even if it was a tad anticlimactic.  I also really enjoyed some of the more random jokes (e.g. "It's for children of all ages").

As far as the Amy/Bender stuff goes, I would have preferred if the whole relationship/marriage proposal had just been one of Bender's scams (to get half of Amy's fortune) rather than actually due to genuine interest.  That might have seemed a bit more in character for him.  Although I didn't have any problem with Amy's interest  in Bender being explained by the "bad boy" thing.

edit: Another random joke I couldn't stop laughing at was the introduction of the "ghost/horse" marriage, and then the ghost "booing" shortly afterward.
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« Reply #29 on: 07-09-2010 04:51 »

The episode started off kinda meh, but it got better in the final act. The first act had some real issues with pacing, and the second act did too, but not as much, but the third act flowed nicely. I think I should view it again later to see if it's better the second time around, but for now I stand at 7/10
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« Reply #30 on: 07-09-2010 04:53 »

I liked it a lot. The pacing seemed very slow, but they are getting close to hitting the bulls-eye of true Futurama formula. "She said go!" made me laugh really hard.
FishyJoe

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« Reply #31 on: 07-09-2010 04:54 »

I Dated A Robot clearly established that human-robot relations were frowned upon, although the marriage debate was never touched upon.

I'll agree that not all of the character motivations made complete sense, but I don't think there was anything too unbelievable here.

One thing I was happy about was that the plot went completely for laughs rather than attempting to be an emotional appeal for the legalization of gay-I-mean-robosexual marriage. Even though 99% of the jokes were pro-robosexual marriage, the episode stayed focused on jokes and never got preachy.
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« Reply #32 on: 07-09-2010 04:56 »


One thing I was happy about was that the plot went completely for laughs rather than attempting to be an emotional appeal for the legalization of gay-I-mean-robosexual marriage. Even though 99% of the jokes were pro-robosexual marriage, the episode stayed focused on jokes and never got preachy.

I appreciated this too. I get irked when shows get preachy and I was glad that this one went more for laughs and parodies. I got quite a few laughs out of it so I can't complain there.
That 80s Guy

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« Reply #33 on: 07-09-2010 04:57 »

True, although I was under the impression that human-robot dating was frowned upon because humans could easily download their desired mate's personality onto a computer and automatically date it, instead of trying to impress a pre-existing robot (or human) by actually being useful to society.
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« Reply #34 on: 07-09-2010 04:57 »

Even though 99% of the jokes were pro-robosexual marriage, the episode stayed focused on jokes and never got preachy.

Yeah, not like South Park.
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« Reply #35 on: 07-09-2010 04:57 »

I loved this episode. It had great jokes, one liners (I personally loved the scene where Fry, Leela and Amy were leaving Mars and she says "My parents may be evil, but at least they're stupid," and how it just cuts away). I could tell what the story line was alluding to since the preview, and I found it relevant to whatever time, so it didn't seem dated or anything like that. Overall I liked the episode, and I'm liking this new season. 9/10
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« Reply #36 on: 07-09-2010 04:58 »

One thing I was happy about was that the plot went completely for laughs rather than attempting to be an emotional appeal for the legalization of gay-I-mean-robosexual marriage. Even though 99% of the jokes were pro-robosexual marriage, the episode stayed focused on jokes and never got preachy.
Speaking of which, Preacherbot was hilarious today, especially at the rehab place. Fantastic jokes there, the entire premise of that bit was funny.
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« Reply #37 on: 07-09-2010 04:59 »
« Last Edit on: 07-09-2010 05:03 »

Pretty poor IMO, mostly because Farnsworth was a complete strawman.  The Space Pope's propaganda video in "I Dated A Robot" satirized the anti-robomiscegenation POV far more effectively.  I really thought this episode would do a lot better.
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« Reply #38 on: 07-09-2010 05:00 »

It was great, the mini-marathon they had: LLLIS, AOTKA, Propisition Infinity, then Mars University. All good/ great episodes.
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« Reply #39 on: 07-09-2010 05:15 »


It's officially the best episode ever. Nobody touch it!
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