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cyber_turnip

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« Reply #160 on: 06-30-2010 01:34 »

No, I was looking at the timer on my DVD player, watching the season 3 DVDs.

Thinking about it, I think there are slight differences in running times between NTSC and PAL stuff based on the number of frames they display at. Perhaps that's to blame?
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« Reply #161 on: 06-30-2010 01:41 »

No, I was looking at the timer on my DVD player, watching the season 3 DVDs.

Thinking about it, I think there are slight differences in running times between NTSC and PAL stuff based on the number of frames they display at. Perhaps that's to blame?

Possibly.

Anywho, on iTunes the old eps are all 22:30ish, while the new ones are 21:38.
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« Reply #162 on: 06-30-2010 02:35 »

No, I was looking at the timer on my DVD player, watching the season 3 DVDs.

Thinking about it, I think there are slight differences in running times between NTSC and PAL stuff based on the number of frames they display at. Perhaps that's to blame?

Did you measure it as the time that the credits started or ended? When we talk about running time, that's from start to finish, including opening and closing credits.

And speedracer is correct. These episodes are indeed a minute shorter.
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« Reply #163 on: 06-30-2010 02:48 »

From start to finish including the opening sequence and credits and the 30th century Fox Logo. Everything until the player stops timing and goes to the copyright warnings before going back to the menu, basically.
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« Reply #164 on: 06-30-2010 03:38 »

Wow, some people here are acting as if this is the worst thing ever put on tv. I mean, sure, it's far from Futurama's best, but it's still a pretty amusing idea, AND it's definitely got its moments. The adult humour was a bit too in-your-face for my liking - not that I have a problem with it, it was just as subtle as an exploding planet. But still, there were enough laughs to keep it worth watching. The storyline was interesting in conception, it's just the execution that's a bit flawed. This is still nowhere near the worst episode ever though, not even in the bottom 5. Quit exaggerating and be happy we've got our show back! You try writing a tv show, having it cancelled, writing 4 movies for it and then resuming production on episodes again 7 years after its original cancellation and see if the quality remains the same right off the bat.

6.5/10

P.S. And as far as the Carolyn Premish thing goes:
a) We KNOW they conceive episodes and re-write them as a group. If they deliver a bad one, you can't blame the person with the writing credit.
b) Why go to the length of using a pseudonym if Matt Groening's already using his real name as part of the writing credits?
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« Reply #165 on: 06-30-2010 05:20 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2010 05:23 »

Iunno, I just figured out my bottom 5 and it ranked #4.

5.Into the Wild Green Yonder: Part 2 (bite me)
4.In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
3.A Taste of Freedom
2.A Leela of Her Own
1.The Cryonic Woman


And as for blaming Carolyn Premish, when it's the first time we've ever heard of her and her credited episode is substancially lower quality than average, I think it fair to single her out as an object of blame. Especially when the majority of complaints come from the way the characters behave and the overall storyline and its structure. The rewrites exist to insert extra gags more than anything and everyone seems in agreement that at very least, the first act was quite funny.
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« Reply #166 on: 06-30-2010 08:46 »

v-giny
SorynArkayn

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« Reply #167 on: 06-30-2010 12:45 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2010 12:50 »

Old eps are around 22:35 from the opening to the end of the credits.
I watched some season 3 episodes last night and they all clocked in at 21:41 too. Looks like Futurama hasn't lost any running time which makes me feel so much less aprehensive about the rest of the new season.

I was looking at files that I ripped directly from the DVDs.  Were you watching on CC?  Do they cut scenes from old episodes?
Usually, the syndicated reruns have to be shortened by a couple of minutes to make room for more commercials. The reason being that reruns usually don't attract as many viewers, so the cable stations can't charge as much for each commercial spot, so they compensate by running more commercials per hour than the network channels.

I've noticed that my video files of Futurama are shorter than the DVDs, but they don't appear to be missing any scenes or anything. For example, the DVD version of "A Bicyclops Built for Two" is 22:33, whereas my AVI version is 21:39, and it includes both the intro and closing credits. I've noticed that the audio seems slightly higher pitch than the DVDs, which causes me to think that they were encoded at a slightly faster speed than normal, which is probably why they run a minute shorter.

Unless you recorded these two new episodes off the television yourself and edited out the commercials, I'll assume that you downloaded this episode like me. It is indeed 21:40, but I suspect it suffers from the same sped-up encoding issue as the rest of the episodes.
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« Reply #168 on: 06-30-2010 12:50 »

Old eps are around 22:35 from the opening to the end of the credits.
I watched some season 3 episodes last night and they all clocked in at 21:41 too. Looks like Futurama hasn't lost any running time which makes me feel so much less aprehensive about the rest of the new season.

I was looking at files that I ripped directly from the DVDs.  Were you watching on CC?  Do they cut scenes from old episodes?
Usually, the syndicated reruns have to be shortened by a couple of minutes to make room for more commercials. The reason being that reruns usually don't attract as many viewers, so the cable stations can't charge as much for each commercial spot, so they compensate by running more commercials per hour than the network channels.

I've noticed that my video files of Futurama are shorter than the DVDs, but they don't appear to be missing any scenes or anything. For example, the DVD version of "A Bicyclops Built for Two" is 22:33, whereas my AVI version is 21:39, and it includes both the intro and closing credits. I've noticed that the audio seems slightly higher pitch than the DVDs, which causes me to think that they were encoded at a slightly faster speed than normal, which is probably why they run a minute shorter.

The audio problem I cannot explain, but the longer DVD versions are a matter of the commentary track. On volume three, there are some commentary tracks that run up to a minute longer than an episode, resulting in a minute long black screen with DXC and MG, etc. talking over it, but you don't realize this if you skip the credits or have the full non-dvd version, like SorynArkayn.
SorynArkayn

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« Reply #169 on: 06-30-2010 12:56 »

The audio problem I cannot explain, but the longer DVD versions are a matter of the commentary track. On volume three, there are some commentary tracks that run up to a minute longer than an episode, resulting in a minute long black screen with DXC and MG, etc. talking over it, but you don't realize this if you skip the credits or have the full non-dvd version, like SorynArkayn.
"A Bicyclops Built for Two" doesn't have an extended commentary, but I'm aware that some of the Season 3 episodes do.

As I stated before, it appears to be an issue with the video file's encoding, because the audio is slightly higher pitch than normal. Over the course of 22 minutes, the slightly faster play speed seems to make the episode 40-60 seconds shorter, even though they appear to be identical.
futz
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« Reply #170 on: 06-30-2010 16:52 »

Speeding up a show is something I've heard of before. Another thing I've noticed on syndicated reruns is cutting into the beginning and ends of scenes to squeeze one more commercial in overall.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #171 on: 06-30-2010 16:59 »

As I stated before, it appears to be an issue with the video file's encoding, because the audio is slightly higher pitch than normal.

And you noticed this because? How? In fact, forget it. I don't want to know. I'm just now starting to realise exactly how much you mean it when you say you want "examples" of how much, where, and what sucks in The Cryonic Woman, or A Leela Of Her Own. hmpf roll eyes

Jeez. I'm sorry. I wouldn't have insulted you so badly if I'd known you were some kind of Rain-man esque figure with so little else to do. I feel kinda sorry for you now, to tell the truth.
SorynArkayn

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« Reply #172 on: 06-30-2010 23:11 »

As I stated before, it appears to be an issue with the video file's encoding, because the audio is slightly higher pitch than normal.

And you noticed this because? How? In fact, forget it. I don't want to know. I'm just now starting to realise exactly how much you mean it when you say you want "examples" of how much, where, and what sucks in The Cryonic Woman, or A Leela Of Her Own. hmpf roll eyes

Jeez. I'm sorry. I wouldn't have insulted you so badly if I'd known you were some kind of Rain-man esque figure with so little else to do. I feel kinda sorry for you now, to tell the truth.
This vendetta you apparently have for me is very petty.

I was commenting on something that I noticed regarding the differing lengths of the DVDs versus the downloaded video files -- and you apparently decided, "Oh look! My nemesis Soryn Arkayn posted something. I cannot resist insulting him!" for no reason other than you're a pathetic TROLL! tongue
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« Reply #173 on: 06-30-2010 23:18 »

Tnuk isn't a troll, he's just better than you. Actually, he might be trolling you now. But he's still better than you.

Most people are.
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« Reply #174 on: 06-30-2010 23:42 »

Yeah, I'd be demanding proof to these petty* and unsupported claims if I were TNUK.


*Bee tee dubs, petty is one of a few cycled big words used by SA. With practice, you too can write on PEEL like him!
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« Reply #175 on: 07-01-2010 00:34 »
« Last Edit on: 07-01-2010 00:44 »

The audio problem I cannot explain, but the longer DVD versions are a matter of the commentary track. On volume three, there are some commentary tracks that run up to a minute longer than an episode, resulting in a minute long black screen with DXC and MG, etc. talking over it, but you don't realize this if you skip the credits or have the full non-dvd version, like SorynArkayn.
"A Bicyclops Built for Two" doesn't have an extended commentary, but I'm aware that some of the Season 3 episodes do.

As I stated before, it appears to be an issue with the video file's encoding, because the audio is slightly higher pitch than normal. Over the course of 22 minutes, the slightly faster play speed seems to make the episode 40-60 seconds shorter, even though they appear to be identical.

My .avi file and DVR recording of "Rebirth" both clock in a minute short, and the Futurama theme in both is clearly in the key of E, as in the DVDs of the old eps (a speedup of 5% would result in a key change close to a full semitone, which I would definitely notice).  The new episodes are absolutely shorter.
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« Reply #176 on: 07-01-2010 01:10 »

Yeah, I'd be demanding proof to these petty* and unsupported claims if I were TNUK.

*Bee tee dubs, petty is one of a few cycled big words used by SA. With practice, you too can write on PEEL like him!
Wasn't there just a PEEL memo outlawing the use of the phrase "Bee tee dubs"?
SorynArkayn

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« Reply #177 on: 07-01-2010 01:27 »

My .avi file and DVR recording of "Rebirth" both clock in a minute short, and the Futurama theme in both is clearly in the key of E, as in the DVDs of the old eps (a speedup of 5% would result in a key change close to a full semitone, which I would definitely notice).  The new episodes are absolutely shorter.
Here are the comparisons between the DVDs and the .avi files that I have.
The Lesser of Two Evils: DVD 22:35 / AVI 21:42
Put Your Head on My Shoulder: DVD 22:32 / AVI 21:40
Raging Bender: DVD 22:34 / AVI 21:41
A Bicyclops Built for Two: DVD 22:33 / AVI 21:39
A Clone of My Own: DVD 22:32 / AVI 21:39

None of the Season 2 DVDs have extended commentaries; and the AVIs all include the intro and ending credits, any bumpers, and unedited content. They should be equal length, but they're not. And I can hear that the sound is slightly higher pitch in the AVI versions than the DVD, which could explain why they're shorter, because they're sped up slightly.

I invite you to compare the DVD to the AVI versions of the original episodes, and you'll see and hear what I'm talking about.

Admittedly though, I didn't hear the same audio problems in the AVIs (or MKVs) of the new episodes. When I compared the lengths of the original AVIs to the new ones, they were the same length, which is why I didn't think the new episodes were shorter than the original. But it appears that the new AVIs are roughly a minute shorter than the DVD versions of the original episodes. But I didn't notice that minute difference until whoever posted it, so I don't consider it a serious problem.

In the past ten years, the commerical time for all new episodes has increased by roughly a minute for half hour shows, and two for hour long shows. Most noticeably many hour long shows have switched from a four act to a five act structure, hence the two minute reduction to the episode's length.

For example, my AVIs of "The Big Bangy Theory" vary in length from 19 to 21 minutes; granted, they don't include the end credits like my Futurama AVIs, but that doesn't account for 19 minute long episodes.

So perhaps the new episodes are shorter than the episodes from the original run, but all shows are like that now. No sense belabouring the issue since all television shows are shorter now.
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« Reply #178 on: 07-01-2010 01:38 »

Someone encoding them with a wrong FPS.  People should learn the difference between PAL and NTSC.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #179 on: 07-01-2010 02:17 »

Do the new episodes clock in at 21:41 for you American types because either the show hasn't lost any time at all and we've just gotten ourselves confused over NTSC and PAL differences or there's a remarkable coincidence and the new shortened episode running time matches the old episodes when viewed in PAL exactly.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #180 on: 07-01-2010 04:39 »

The audio problem I cannot explain, but the longer DVD versions are a matter of the commentary track. On volume three, there are some commentary tracks that run up to a minute longer than an episode, resulting in a minute long black screen with DXC and MG, etc. talking over it, but you don't realize this if you skip the credits or have the full non-dvd version, like SorynArkayn.
"A Bicyclops Built for Two" doesn't have an extended commentary, but I'm aware that some of the Season 3 episodes do.

As I stated before, it appears to be an issue with the video file's encoding, because the audio is slightly higher pitch than normal. Over the course of 22 minutes, the slightly faster play speed seems to make the episode 40-60 seconds shorter, even though they appear to be identical.

My .avi file and DVR recording of "Rebirth" both clock in a minute short, and the Futurama theme in both is clearly in the key of E, as in the DVDs of the old eps (a speedup of 5% would result in a key change close to a full semitone, which I would definitely notice).  The new episodes are absolutely shorter.
I'm going to go with this being the definitive answer that the new episodes are shorter and just sped up. If the episodes were sped up, there definitely would've been a change of key throughout. Nice find. Hm, now to watch an episode of Classic 72 on Comedy Central to see if I note a key change (sometimes it's good to have extensive musical background)... would show whether they speed up old episodes or cut. Now that I post this, I'm sure somebody else has already tested this theory.
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« Reply #181 on: 07-01-2010 06:36 »

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I'm going to go with this being the definitive answer that the new episodes are shorter and just sped up. If the episodes were sped up, there definitely would've been a change of key throughout. Nice find. Hm, now to watch an episode of Classic 72 on Comedy Central to see if I note a key change (sometimes it's good to have extensive musical background)... would show whether they speed up old episodes or cut. Now that I post this, I'm sure somebody else has already tested this theory.

Yeah:

http://www.gotfuturama.com/Information/ListsReferences/Futurama_Cuts_1ACV-4ACV.dhtml

Most of the editing is fairly minimal though (compare this to the syndication cuts guide for The Simpsons up at SNPP.com; it uses the exact same format as this one).  The biggest change is usually the loss of the end credits, which are often pasted over the beginning of the next show.  Otherwise, there's slight speed-ups of the acts and the occasional extremely minor cut (I notice some examples where it says something like "Leela's blinking in this shot is shortened by .33 seconds" or whatever).  Basically every act is usually like 5-10 seconds shorter.

The networks have gradually increased the number of commercials every year for decades, so it's not a big surprise if episodes made in 2010 are a little shorter than ones made in 1999 or 2000.
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« Reply #182 on: 07-02-2010 11:20 »

This one got a higher vote from than the first episode, which is funny cuz I notice most people rated this one worse than the first. I gave it an 8/10 because at least some, not all, of the humor returned. Mixing Star Wars/Star Trek with the V-GINY Death Star Object was awesome (hehe...vginy). I was most disappointed by the ending though. It seemed quite forced that Leela and Zapp do it again while Fry stands by on the sidelines. I'm not saying I want that to happen either, I think those two are weird together, but Leela's major disgust for Zapp has seen to wane a little in recent times from Love's Labours Lost in Space. I like how Zapp's manipulation of Leela and lies got worse and worse. That was well done heh. The whole...Zapp's Adventure thing was ok...but it seemed like I was watching another show, ZAPP's show, not Futurama. It would have made a good extra on a DVD than an episode itself. It seems now the writers are focusing more on characters than plot/scene development, which could be due to less funding, I'm not denying that is a major setback, I'm only saying that part of the show, even though it's back, died when it was first cancelled, and I don't know if they'll be able to resurrect to it's full glory. We'll see in upcoming episodes.
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« Reply #183 on: 07-03-2010 04:08 »

I actually didn't mind the end, although Leela could have stressed more she was doing it to save the planet.

What did annoy me was the lack of continuity to ITWGY. Zapp's not arresting them any more? Petunia's not in Maxi-Padlock, implying all the other Feministas aren't either? So everyone's been pardoned now? When did that happen?

It's almost like there was an episode after Rebirth but before IAGDL.
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« Reply #184 on: 07-03-2010 05:05 »

What's especially annoying is that it would have been so easy to fix with some throwaway line of dialogue about their deaths causing them to not be wanted criminals any more prior to them being rebirthed.
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« Reply #185 on: 07-03-2010 16:33 »

No sense belabouring the issue

And yet I notice this didn't stop you. Clearly, sense is no barrier to you.
I actually didn't mind the end, although Leela could have stressed more she was doing it to save the planet.

What did annoy me was the lack of continuity to ITWGY. Zapp's not arresting them any more? Petunia's not in Maxi-Padlock, implying all the other Feministas aren't either? So everyone's been pardoned now? When did that happen?

It's almost like there was an episode after Rebirth but before IAGDL.

I suppose that in the aftermath of ITWGY and Rebirth, things would have been sorted out, pardons issued in light of the full events of the movie now being known, and of course, Farnsworth having resurrected Zapp... Earth's top military mind. With Zapp being the top military mind, I can see how Petunia and others would fall through the cracks and be back outside the Pubic Library so quickly.

It's not too much of a stretch for me to fill in the blanks (and there's surely an opportunity for fanfic writers to dive in there and establish what they want to have happened in rich and "glorious" detail), so I can forgive it. Overall, I'm still happy with the episode.

"V-Giny" gets more peurile and less funny each time I watch it though. V-CHIP + FLYING DESTINY would have smashed up to form HEINY or CHESTY or even (with a little re-arranging) PENIS. All of these would have been SLIGHTLY better. I mean, a giant spaceborne heiny coming to wipe out the earth? Places could have been gone with that.
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« Reply #186 on: 07-03-2010 16:51 »

What's especially annoying is that it would have been so easy to fix with some throwaway line of dialogue about their deaths causing them to not be wanted criminals any more prior to them being rebirthed.
If Rebirth wasn't so filled with plot lines already, it would have been funny to include a whole courtroom scene with intricate beaurucratic (spelling?) nonsense on how they died and thus aren't in the registers anymore. big grin
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« Reply #187 on: 07-03-2010 16:53 »

"V-Giny" gets more peurile and less funny each time I watch it though. V-CHIP + FLYING DESTINY would have smashed up to form HEINY or CHESTY or even (with a little re-arranging) PENIS. All of these would have been SLIGHTLY better. I mean, a giant spaceborne heiny coming to wipe out the earth? Places could have been gone with that.
PENIS would definitely have been worse, plus it would destroy all jokes reffering to the characters not getting the similarity. The others would have been okay, but it would destroy the V'Ger reference a little too much.
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« Reply #188 on: 07-03-2010 19:19 »

I actually didn't mind the end, although Leela could have stressed more she was doing it to save the planet.

What did annoy me was the lack of continuity to ITWGY. Zapp's not arresting them any more? Petunia's not in Maxi-Padlock, implying all the other Feministas aren't either? So everyone's been pardoned now? When did that happen?

It's almost like there was an episode after Rebirth but before IAGDL.

There is a logical, easy explanation:  The Fugitives were killed in a firey blast, witnessed by millions.  The only way Zapp can come back to life is if he allows the Professor to "rebirth" him, so his "Over my dead body" comment was hollow.

Still, it would have been nice if something was stated like, "The fugitives were killed fleeing Brannigan's Law," therefore the cloned fugitives were innocent.
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« Reply #189 on: 07-03-2010 20:24 »

"V-Giny" gets more peurile and less funny each time I watch it though. V-CHIP + FLYING DESTINY would have smashed up to form HEINY or CHESTY or even (with a little re-arranging) PENIS. All of these would have been SLIGHTLY better. I mean, a giant spaceborne heiny coming to wipe out the earth? Places could have been gone with that.
PENIS would definitely have been worse, plus it would destroy all jokes reffering to the characters not getting the similarity. The others would have been okay, but it would destroy the V'Ger reference a little too much.

I hated V-GINY enough that I would prefer PENIS as a name.
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« Reply #190 on: 07-04-2010 13:09 »

It's not too much of a stretch for me to fill in the blanks (and there's surely an opportunity for fanfic writers to dive in there and establish what they want to have happened in rich and "glorious" detail), so I can forgive it.

I'd consider that, but am already helping with another fanfic project. Anyone else?

There is a logical, easy explanation:  The Fugitives were killed in a firey blast, witnessed by millions.

Your logic is flawed, good sir. The fugitives may have 'perished', but that wouldn't get the other Feministas out of Club Fed.
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« Reply #191 on: 07-15-2010 02:52 »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv-HC4WEkh0&feature=related

FOREIGN LITERAL FAN IS LITERAL

Noooo I thought it was Zapp's invisible penis.
* FemJesse facepalms.

Edit: Super Mario is critical of Futurama.
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« Reply #192 on: 07-19-2010 18:56 »

I have to agree with the majority of opinions here. Not a very good or particular funny episode. To me that's really a shame because typically Zapp episodes are among my favourites. This time around I just didn't find it as funny. For most of the episode (while watching it for the first time) I was alienated by Leela's freaky behaviour. In the end I didn't find the dehydration story convincing.
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« Reply #193 on: 12-25-2011 06:25 »

Just saw it for the first time in ages.
Honestly, I think the first half is actually very good, but I think Leela gave in to Zapp's seduction way too easily, and the ending was pretty mediocre.
Overrall, a 6.5/10.
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« Reply #194 on: 12-25-2011 11:08 »

It would have made a great, non-canon comic.
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« Reply #195 on: 12-25-2011 12:12 »

I enjoy Zapp eating the chocolates... laff
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« Reply #196 on: 12-26-2011 04:25 »

It would have made a great, non-canon comic.

I agree with this. It felt like a comic. I haven't read very many comics but the plot of IAGDL is like the plots of the comics. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing but probably is.
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« Reply #197 on: 12-28-2011 04:27 »

This episode stinks like an unwashed anus.

7/10, and that's being generous.   7 out of 10 is the lowest I will give a Futurama episode so bad IAGDL.  Very bad.
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« Reply #198 on: 12-30-2011 09:25 »

May not be the best episode, but the animation is stunning. love
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« Reply #199 on: 12-31-2011 17:59 »

In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela

So much potential, so little used. I really enjoyed the first act which set up, what could have been, a great episode with hilarious moments. The results were less that spectacular. Leela and Zapp are usually great together, and they were. In the first act. After that their chemistry sort of got annoying and I didn't like them getting along. The rest of the crew were pretty funny but it just didn't make up for the bad gags and rushed ending...

Score: 6.5/10.0
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