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i_c_weiner
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That was hilarious too! I actually paused the episode when I saw that just to get the laugh out before going on. I'll have to rewatch this episode to see all the other gags.
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SorynArkayn
Bending Unit
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There wasn't anything obvious that pointed to Fry being a robot, but there were certainly clues that something wasn't right with him. First, we're kept wondering how Fry magically survived the crash when no one else (except Farnsworth, who had a different model safety sphere) did. Then, Fry specifically calls attention to his 'frizzy' hair and severe burns at the beginning. He has the same hairdo in "Hell is Other Robots" when they pass through that electrical storm. So that suggests he'd been zapped with an electrical current, and then burned, which shows that he didn't get injured under the same circumstances as everyone else. Finally, Leela foreshadows the twist when she says that she'd probably make a copy of Fry if she ever lost him. I thought it was a clever twist. It put a whole new spin on the episode and was all the better because I wasn't able to ruin it by figuring it out ahead of time. I thought that the twist that Fry was a robot was very clever, and I didn't see it coming. I didn't like the first 2 minutes of the episode; the Fry 'fro was a recycled joke and his severe burns weren't funny either; it seemed poorly written, but under re-examination I think that it was deliberately stilted to call attention to itself. When the twist was revealed, you understood why Fry was burned, and that the Fry 'fro gag was intentionally recycled to allude to him being electrocuted instead of disembodied in the crash, like the others. I understand why it was written that way now, but it still seems stilted and uninspired. The revelation of the twist and the clues foreshadowing it are only surprising the first time; thereafter, we know what's going on, but we're stuck with this awkwardly written opening scene, which makes for an inauspicious beginning to this episode and for the return of the series. Really, I don't have any major complaints with this episode. It was funny, it was clever, and it didn't hit the reset button on Fry and Leela, though it might seem like it if you havent seen the second episode. Maybe they wont be making out in every episode, but that would get old in about ten minutes.
there were only two (minor) things that were a little off. Where did the cyclphage go? They needed to put a two second clip in there showing it falling off the ship as it came in for a landing or something to explain why it took like a day for it to show up at Planet Express.
Secondly, why did the Leela and Fry robots look different after removing their 'skin' then they did before it was put on?
I acknowledge that those are problems, but they're relatively minor quibbles compared to my overall disappointment with this episode. Sure, it's illogical that the Cyclophage could hide from view on the PE ship, or remain undetected for so long. And yes, it doesn't make sense why Leela's robotic endoskeleton look so different and cooler looking than the one Fry created for her at Build-a-Bot earlier in the episode. I don't want to harp on this episode too much because I'm so happy that Futurama has returned. I'll simply state the it didn't live up to my expectations. I believe that the cause of this problem was that this episode was creatively constrained by being a transitional episode. I have high hopes that Futurama will get back on track within a few episodes, and be just as great as when it prematurely ended in Season 4.
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Gorky
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« Reply #45 on: 06-24-2010 00:12 »
« Last Edit on: 06-24-2010 00:14 »
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I liked:
"Coma coma coma coma coma chameleon!"
Yes! That was a legit lawl for me. Watching bits and pieces of this again earlier, I took notice of the scene where Fry is looking out that window all thoughtfuland dejected--and Leela sneaks up on him, and they share a moment. To me, that's very old-school, TKOS-ish Futurama. It was the most organic emotional moment in the episode, IMO. There was a lot of "I love Leela" and "We're soulmates" and stuff like that in this episode--but that moment between the two of them was what made shippy little me, well, squee. Just thought I'd mention that: I don't think the episode hit every emotional note--and times it seemed to venture into melodrama--but that moment was pretty damn sweet.
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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Being able to continually utilize his overenergeticness in the background was great. If you notice in other scenes, he's continually moving when usually he would just stand there disinterested. Even more so is that they were able to tie that B-plot back to the A-plot at the end of the episode.
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Aki
Professor
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Indeed, they should have like made a point about something in the story Farnsworth told originally lacked some details, that even Fry noticed or some such. A good twist is one you could theoretically predict, but it being so obscure, that the possibilities of you guessing it, did not. You could not do that in this case. Had Fry been somehow more attracted to the robot version of Leela, it might have made sense. But he wasn't, he even states 'I love any Leela' at the end.
It would have been interesting had he been saying to himself, 'why do I love the robot Leela more than the human Leela?' Then the twist would have made sense; 'because he was a robot!' Unfortunately, that did not happen.
That would have been cool, yes. However I love the foreshadowing with Leela mentioning that if Fry had died, she'd probably build a copy of him as well.
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Seymour_My_Hero
Professor
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I just finished watching it, and overall, it was pretty good! The Good: -I really liked the pacing of the story, it didn't seem to drag and it kept me wanting to watch -The twist of Fry being a robot, I did not see that coming, which actually left my jaw hanging open saying "What?!" -Sure, the title is rebirth, but I didn't expect an actual rebirth. The machine, in my opinion, was actually quite clever! -Though many disagree, I really liked Bender's plot line. Sure, it could have been a little stronger, but some of his one liners just left me laughing. I missed Bender! -Overall a good episode, I thoroughly enjoyed it, interesting plot, excellent animation, and can't wait to see episode 2! The Bad: -I may be alone in this, but I was getting a little annoyed with Fry by the end. Yes, he lost Leela, but I found him to be a little whiny by the end when he was asking Bender to take him out to party. -Wasn't that dooms day machine already blown up previously? -Some of the voice acting fell a little flat for me. The one line in particular that I noticed was Leela's line, (along the lines of) "I have to go, this is way too freaky!" Most of it was good, just a few lines here and there that didn't quite fit. None of the bad is to say that I disliked the episode, I'm just nitpicking Pretty good, it can only go up from here! 7.5/10
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Speaking of things Leela said: I liked the line about taking a spin class instead of being in a coma. That was a laugh-out-loud one for me--it was so wonderfully bitchy. Although it's kind of, like, sad or coincidental or something that a joke is also made about Leela's weight in "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela." Do you guyz thnk the writers are running out of idears?!!!??11!?
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Guys, I hate how all the characters only have four fingers. SOOO UNREALISTIC.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Eh, most cartoons have a sort of elasticity when it comes to set design. Take a look at Fry and Bender's apartment some time. Same goes for the PE building and ship--rooms are added all the time, things like that. To me, it's not worth worrying yourself with. Also, if you'd like: Goofs Thread
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CookiesOnTheFloor
Bending Unit
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Speaking of things Leela said: I liked the line about taking a spin class instead of being in a coma. That was a laugh-out-loud one for me--it was so wonderfully bitchy. Although it's kind of, like, sad or coincidental or something that a joke is also made about Leela's weight in "In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela." Do you guyz thnk the writers are running out of idears?!!!??11!? If that kind of thing continues, I probably won't stay a Futurama fan. I hate stupid jokes like that, that are aimed at a character just because it's a female. Leela doesn't look fat to me, so why does she get a fat joke aimed at her?
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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They've mentioned this throughout the series.
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Zed 85
Space Pope
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Just a broad review - generally I liked it if some of it I felt was a tad overly contrived. Some of the jokes I felt fell flat but overall the level of humour is as high as ever. Plot was...well, basically okay. I question why the Cyclophage was really there at all. A couple of other points weren't to my liking but that's basically just me. 7/10 Kinda got spoiled about the whole though unfortunately. Felt I had to open the thread because I was looking at it going "How can they possibly be reviewing the episodes? Surely it's still speculative, getting in there early, how the hell can they have seen it when it's not even 24th June yet! What are they talking about? Oh my God the whole !!!"
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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[Nutshell]Rebirth was funny, very enjoyable and most of you whinge too much[/Nutshell]
Hey, I see no whinging in this thread--plenty of whining, sure, but no whinging! I quite liked the Victory Yodel. A very Zapp touch, I felt.
I like that Kif kind of emulates it with a yodel-sigh.
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Aki
Professor
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I think you were supposed to laugh at Zapp rather than Leela. You know, his lack of tact and that he was so rude and picking up on something that isn't a problem because Leela isn't fat.
Yeah, and Zapp has previously shown how stupid he is about getting women, complaining on their looks even if they're way out of his league. Leela is his dream girl, and still he complains about her weight.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Loved it. O'Henry story, Leela's AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... (been there). Boffo!
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koldstare64
Delivery Boy
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One thing I loved from the episode: When the PE computer is compiling Leela's personality, it mentions "Shoe Size: 12." A nice, inconspicuous 'Leela's huge feet' joke.
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