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Future Shock

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« on: 06-23-2010 12:15 »
« Last Edit on: 07-21-2010 03:29 by Nixorbo »

[edit by [-mArc-]: Please also post a short review on CGEF if you can.]


Lol.
Well here we have it, new Futurama. After a couple of agonising months, it's back! Discuss the plots and what you thought was hot and what not.

And yes,

*  SPOILERS AHOY IN THIS THREAD


Gorky

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« Reply #1 on: 06-23-2010 13:55 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 13:56 »

I still don't know what to think about this one. I'll rewatch it again tomorrow, the way God intended; for the time being, though, I wasn't thrilled with it. It was funny, sure, and the plot was plenty twisty and surprising but
Jarvio

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« Reply #2 on: 06-23-2010 13:56 »

Where can you watch it?!?!
Gorky

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« Reply #3 on: 06-23-2010 13:56 »

Um...it has been leaked. That is all.
Future Shock

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« Reply #4 on: 06-23-2010 14:09 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 19:28 »

I saw it. It was pretty good. I wondered how they'd sort out the
Freako

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« Reply #5 on: 06-23-2010 14:10 »

Stop using Spoiler tags.
I think anybody who hasn't seen the episode should just stay out of this topic.
Gorky

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« Reply #6 on: 06-23-2010 14:25 »

Jarvio

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« Reply #7 on: 06-23-2010 14:30 »

Good episode, gonna try and find the second one now.

PS - Is it me, or is the themetune more bassy than usual? Sounded better anyway
Svip

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« Reply #8 on: 06-23-2010 14:39 »

The theme sounded as if it had gotten a bit of a pep up.  Probably with inspiration from the films.


Then they've made a mistake coming here.  And that is their own problem.
any1else

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« Reply #9 on: 06-23-2010 14:46 »

The following is simple: My likes and dislikes after having watched the episode a couple of times over.

Dislikes:
The Bender storyline. Pfft. Just pfft.
The robot storyline. They already explored the idea of dating robots, consarnit. I'm bored!
The ending "we're back everyone!" Who cares? Stupid 4th wall crap is getting old, or just really badly done. Just tell us a damn story and don't spend the majority of it pointing out something we already know - the show was cancelled, it changed network, it's back. Just get on with it. Self indulgent drivel. Rarrgh mad

Likes:
I'm finding this difficult to complete actually. I guess the "wake up!" machine was somewhat amusing. As 'traditional medicine'.
And Zoidberg's speciality.
Zapp being shot out of the re-birthing machine at the end.

Well. Yeah. Maybe I'm being harsh. Maybe I feel like it's my ex-lover who has come back and tried to makes things how they were, before it cheated on me by making movies and ruining where we were as two characters maybe possibly with a future together and we could've just left it at that but now it's told me how it wants things to be, and I just don't see how it can work that way. I'm sorry Futurama, but if we're going to be together again, you need to go work off some of that excess flab.
Gorky

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« Reply #10 on: 06-23-2010 14:55 »

I'll save an actual review for tomorrow night (mainly because I'm too lazy right now) but my basic impression of "Rebirth" was that it was funny and sweet (and maybe even a bit melodramatic), and it wasn't an awful way to be reintroduced to these characters. I'm expecting the show to hit its stride later this season; I think some kinks just need to be worked out, since the writers haven't worked episodically in so long.

In other words, I'm remaining optimistic.
any1else

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« Reply #11 on: 06-23-2010 15:07 »

I'm sure maybe later on, things will get back to normal. But I don't understand why it should have to take so long. If they were able to make a great show to begin with, why can't it stay great? I don't even understand why they felt they had to re-introduce the characters either. They don't introduce all the characters every single episode just in case a new viewer is watching, do they? No. So why should they do it now? Surely they would have had plenty of ideas way back when, before they got cancelled? Otherwise why was anybody employed? Why do these new episodes feel like somebody just made it all up as they went along, and couldn't be bothered re-reading it? I know what that looks like - that's how I do my uni assignments! tongue
Aki

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« Reply #12 on: 06-23-2010 15:25 »

Like I said in the speculations thread:

Woah! I just finished watching Rebirth and it blew my mind. I can't really say how good an episode it is since it seems more like a transcending from Into the Wild Green Yonder and it doesn't have its own story, really, it just deals with the aftermath. But my first impression - wow. I can't wait for the rest. Literally! I'm turning on next episode right away!
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #13 on: 06-23-2010 16:04 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 16:13 »

I saw it on megavideo. It was pretty good. I wondered how they'd sort out the
Please remember to not post information on how to obtain Futurama illegally. It's in the rules that you agreed to when you registered. As in, you're an idiot.

Stop using Spoiler tags.
I think anybody who hasn't seen the episode should just stay out of this topic.
Freako, when something is a huge plot twist or from an episode after this one, spoilers tags are still necessary to a degree. For me, that was spoiler tag worthy, even in a spoilered thread. Sure, it's a spoilerered thread, so it shouldn't matter what's posted within when pertaining to the episode, but people will post how they like, so deal with it.

However, something like "Z0MG SCRUFYS SWEEEPING THE WR3KAGE!!1!" isn't that spoilerific. This is more a funny gag that people might not have noticed unless I said so. And it was hilarious. So now you know. Go rewatch and rejoice.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #14 on: 06-23-2010 16:12 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 16:17 »

Okay, I've watched Rebirth 4 times now so I think I'm over the initial surreal feeling of seeing new Futurama and can judge it properly, so here are my thoughts:

The good:
  • Some fantastic jokes. Lots of laugh-out-loud moments for me such as the stem-cell joke, the face Bender pulls when , Fry's "Where are my shoes?" and so forth.
  • Handles the Leela/Fry thing nicely although I have to say, I'm a bit confused with the ending.
    ?
  • The animation is fine. I was initially a tiny bit worried that the animation quality would drop.
  • The voice-action is also as good as ever. Something about the voice-acting in the first 90 second clip we got had me a bit worried.
  • The plot's premise is really cool (everyone dies and has to be brought back).
  • The actual storyline is good if a bit messy. It had a nice emotional resonance.
  • The twist was cool, I certainly didn't see it coming.


The bad:
  • Not enough was made of the fact that they'd died in my opinion. They're gone, and then they're back straight away. As much as I loved the jokes involving bringing them back, it felt a bit too easy for my liking, as if death isn't going to be a problem in the future.
  • I wish the Professor had veiled the stem-cell thing in more science fiction nonsense to justify it working. It seemed like he basically just dunked the bodies in a giant vat of the stuff which obviously wouldn't work.
  • Zapp's "Over my dead body" line really annoyed me. I know that Futurama has already done similar things such as Hermes head staying alive a suspicously long time in Bender's Big Score, but Zapp Brannigan still being alive enough to say that line completely took me out of what was happening and reminded me that this was a fictional cartoon.
  • I'm still not happy that stem-cells were used to rebirth Bender, being made out of metal and all without even a throwaway joke about it.
  • That looked like the sphere-o-boom that the Professor put in Bender. That thing got blown up in Bender's Big Score. I didn't like the way that the power source was simply dropped into Bender's chest cavity either.
  • The little montage of Fry walking to the Build-a-Bot factory fell flat for me. None of the jokes worked in my opinion.
  • I didn't like that
    It was too ridiculous for me to buy.
  • There were a handful of cringey jokes that felt completely out of place. The sort of thing I'd expect from newer Simpsons episodes. These included Leela's screaming and the Terminator-esque robot voices.
  • The Cylophage thing didn't sit well. It felt like a poor excuse to re-introduce some of Leela's personality (compassion for endangered animals and the like) more than something that really worked within the storyline. It added to my next point.
  • The pace was far too fast. There was a lot going on in the episode and it was zipping around all over the place, even the tones bounced back and forth. I'm going to attribute this to it having to deal with the ending of Into the Wild Green Yonder more than anything.
  • Whilst I liked that the score didn't just repeat the old Fry/Leela themes and so forth, it felt quite out of place within Futurama at times. A bit 'heavily' melodramatic. Not all of it was bad though.
  • Bender's eye falling out felt a bit contrived.


In spite of my complaints list being considerably longer than my praise list, it was a solid return to the show in my opinion. I'm just nitpicking. I thoroughly enjoyed the episode and whilst it's far from the show's best, I was satisfied and have high hopes for later episodes this run.

8/10


Edit: Oops, just read the above post. Spoiler tags added.
SorynArkayn

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« Reply #15 on: 06-23-2010 16:12 »

Like I said in the speculations thread:

Woah! I just finished watching Rebirth and it blew my mind. I can't really say how good an episode it is since it seems more like a transcending from Into the Wild Green Yonder and it doesn't have its own story, really, it just deals with the aftermath. But my first impression - wow. I can't wait for the rest. Literally! I'm turning on next episode right away!
I agree that the problem with this episode was that it was a transitional episode, and its plot was stiffly constrained by having to bridge the gap from the ending of ItWGY to this episode. Apparently the writers felt obligated to be self-referential, hence the first two minutes, and why "Rebirth" was the theme of the episode. I liked when they did that in "Bender's Big Score", because the brainless Fox Network executives deserved to be beaten to death and ground up into Torgo's Executive Powder. Also, the self-referential thing was done much better and was much funnier in that movie. In this episode, the fact that Amy said "I get it!" was indicative of how awkwardly forced the allusion was; I'm really surprised that it made it through the re-write process.

Overall, I thought that the episode was below average by Futurama standards. Perhaps my expectations were impossibly high and this episode failed to meet them. But I'm aware of that, so I feel like my impressions of this episode are accurate. I'm certainly going to watch this episode many, many times over the next week, so maybe my opinion of it will improve.
But presently, I don't think that the series has returned with the strongest episode. This "return episode" had to be done, and now that it is, the show can get back on track and hopefully regain the momentum it had from the fourth season season.
Aki

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« Reply #16 on: 06-23-2010 16:22 »

I agree that the problem with this episode was that it was a transitional episode
That's the word I looked for big grin

I didn't mind the self-referential part. It was much smaller than the one in Bender's Big Score, and the joke as I took it was that they tried so hard to make a joke about it, which Amy ofcourse makes extra clear with "I get it!".

I also must say I agree with turnip about some of the jokes... Things like Leela screaming for way to long - IT HAS BEEN DONE. If anyone responsible for the show reads this, please try to make something new. There have been too many jokes in later Simpsons seasons that are really overused and obvious, and I don't want Futurama ending up like that. Every scene doesn't have to have fifteen jokes, if you can't make one up then don't. I love the more emotional shows that can have some really good jokes and then some scenes with just emotions and dialogue. It is a comedy show, but it doesn't have to be _all the time_.
EvilChicken

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« Reply #17 on: 06-23-2010 16:27 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 16:29 »


The bad:
  • There were a handful of cringey jokes that felt completely out of place. The sort of thing I'd expect from newer Simpsons episodes. These included Leela's screaming and...

I loved the part were Leela was screaming! Although it seemed to be very similar to the Simpsons episode 'The Blunder Years', but still, it was one of my favourites.  laff

I loved the episode and I think it was great the way they got all that done in 20 minutes.

any1else

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« Reply #18 on: 06-23-2010 16:28 »

Apparently the writers felt obligated to be self-referential, hence the first two minutes, and why "Rebirth" was the theme of the episode. I liked when they did that in "Bender's Big Score", because the brainless Fox Network executives deserved to be beaten to death and ground up into Torgo's Executive Powder.
They had the time to do that in the movie. This whole episode basically felt like a giant reference. It feels very condescending and/or lazy for them to do this.

The twist was cool, I certainly didn't see it coming.
I didn't even see it as a twist. It just seemed stupid to me. There was no "ahaha!" or "oh, wow!" or any kind of realisation that it was meant to be a big deal. At least when they had the 'twist' in Bender's Big Score, it made sense to me, even though I already had an idea what was going to happen, it still meant something. This 'twist' in Rebirth...why?

Every scene doesn't have to have fifteen jokes, if you can't make one up then don't.
If they can't think of one decent, solid 20 minute script, then don't. In my opinion.
Svip

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« Reply #19 on: 06-23-2010 16:47 »

Apparently the writers felt obligated to be self-referential, hence the first two minutes, and why "Rebirth" was the theme of the episode. I liked when they did that in "Bender's Big Score", because the brainless Fox Network executives deserved to be beaten to death and ground up into Torgo's Executive Powder.
They had the time to do that in the movie. This whole episode basically felt like a giant reference. It feels very condescending and/or lazy for them to do this.

Agreed.  But I can understand why they did it.  But again, not sure I disagree with the decision.

The twist was cool, I certainly didn't see it coming.
I didn't even see it as a twist. It just seemed stupid to me. There was no "ahaha!" or "oh, wow!" or any kind of realisation that it was meant to be a big deal. At least when they had the 'twist' in Bender's Big Score, it made sense to me, even though I already had an idea what was going to happen, it still meant something. This 'twist' in Rebirth...why?

Indeed, they should have like made a point about something in the story Farnsworth told originally lacked some details, that even Fry noticed or some such.  A good twist is one you could theoretically predict, but it being so obscure, that the possibilities of you guessing it, did not.  You could not do that in this case. 

Unfortunately, that did not happen.

Every scene doesn't have to have fifteen jokes, if you can't make one up then don't.
If they can't think of one decent, solid 20 minute script, then don't. In my opinion.

They don't get paid for doing nothing.  And then again, they did not have a lot of time to write these first episodes, as I understand.  The following episodes have had a lot more time going through.

I think I will attribute some of this episode's flaws to Matt Groening's intervention.  He's an idea man, not really a writer.  And while David X. Cohen have written some pretty good episodes, he doesn't seem to be able to pull that off when he is writing with Groening.  You may say, but "Space Pilot 3000" was pretty decent.  Yes, but that was because that episode actually had to establish a lot of things, that episode must have been years in the making.  "Rebirth" did not have this luxury.
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #20 on: 06-23-2010 16:55 »


The bad:
  • There were a handful of cringey jokes that felt completely out of place. The sort of thing I'd expect from newer Simpsons episodes. These included Leela's screaming and...

I loved the part were Leela was screaming! Although it seemed to be very similar to the Simpsons episode 'The Blunder Years', but still, it was one of my favourites.  laff
It reminded me of the The Simpsons joke where Mr. Burns keeps laughing at "that crippled Irish fellow". I forget which episode it was but it certainly wasn't The Blunder Years. Looks like The Simpsons are repeating themselves worse than I realised.

Apparently the writers felt obligated to be self-referential, hence the first two minutes, and why "Rebirth" was the theme of the episode. I liked when they did that in "Bender's Big Score", because the brainless Fox Network executives deserved to be beaten to death and ground up into Torgo's Executive Powder.
They had the time to do that in the movie. This whole episode basically felt like a giant reference. It feels very condescending and/or lazy for them to do this.
I wouldn't say it felt like a giant reference so much as the premise matched things thematically as David X Cohen said in an interview. The only stuff I'd consider self-referencial was the start with the comedy central channel joke (which I found funny) and the "We're back everyone!" line at the end, which was only one line so I don't care.

The twist was cool, I certainly didn't see it coming.
I didn't even see it as a twist. It just seemed stupid to me. There was no "ahaha!" or "oh, wow!" or any kind of realisation that it was meant to be a big deal. At least when they had the 'twist' in Bender's Big Score, it made sense to me, even though I already had an idea what was going to happen, it still meant something. This 'twist' in Rebirth...why?
A twist doesn't need to have a thematic reason behind it. From a story-structure point of view, it existed to give them a way of getting rid of robot Leela.
Jarvio

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« Reply #21 on: 06-23-2010 16:59 »

I still have faith. Rebirth was an episode that needed to tie up lots of loose ends. Not an easy job, and it did it sucessfully in 20 minutes IMO. I'm sure things will get back to 'normal' within the next few episodes. There are 12 episodes afterall, plenty of time to 'get back into the flow'. Can't wait for ep 3
soylentOrange

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« Reply #22 on: 06-23-2010 17:41 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 17:44 »

Quote
Indeed, they should have like made a point about something in the story Farnsworth told originally lacked some details, that even Fry noticed or some such.  A good twist is one you could theoretically predict, but it being so obscure, that the possibilities of you guessing it, did not.  You could not do that in this case.  

There wasn't anything obvious that pointed to Fry being a robot, but there were certainly clues that something wasn't right with him.  First, we're kept wondering how Fry magically survived the crash when no one else (except Farnsworth, who had a different model safety sphere) did.  Then, Fry specifically calls attention to his 'frizzy' hair and severe burns at the beginning.  He has the same hairdo in "Hell is Other Robots" when they pass through that electrical storm.  So that suggests he'd been zapped with an electrical current, and then burned, which shows that he didn't get injured under the same circumstances as everyone else.   Finally, Leela foreshadows the twist when she says that she'd probably make a copy of Fry if she ever lost him.  I thought it was a clever twist.  It put a whole new spin on the episode and was all the better because I wasn't able to ruin it by figuring it out ahead of time.

Really, I don't have any major complaints with this episode.  It was funny, it was clever, and it didn't hit the reset button on Fry and Leela, though it might seem like it if you havent seen the second episode.  Maybe they wont be making out in every episode, but that would get old in about ten minutes.  

there were only two (minor) things that were a little off.  Where did the cyclphage go?  They needed to put a two second clip in there showing it falling off the ship as it came in for a landing or something to explain why it took like a day for it to show up at Planet Express.

Secondly, why did the Leela and Fry robots look different after removing their 'skin' then they did before it was put on?
any1else

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« Reply #23 on: 06-23-2010 17:55 »

Yes, but that was because that episode actually had to establish a lot of things, that episode must have been years in the making.  "Rebirth" did not have this luxury.
Uhm. They've had 7 years to mull over what they could do if the show ever returned. Then they made crappy movies that could easily have been cut down to simple 20 minute episodes with the major plot points covered in them, and...

I still have faith. Rebirth was an episode that needed to tie up lots of loose ends.
They wouldn't have needed to tie up loose ends if they had just left it how it was when the show ended in 2003. I know we all wanted more, but I think the way it ended when they were cancelled was perfect. Now they'll have to build up a whole new era of the show and then try and end it again one day without it feeling like they should have just left it alone way back when. They can't let this show get out of control - it's supposed to be smart and make you smile contently with the occasional hearty chuckle, not cringe and roll your eyes. However I will keep watching and hoping, like some kind of religious nut, that everything will work out fine.
It's just..I didn't really have high expectations...and then I watched these new episodes...and they didn't even live up to my low expectations. I want to be paid to make up a bunch of nonsense for TV! But wait, that's why I haven't tried to get a job in that industry; I have no imagination. I had this kind of strange idea that wonderfully creative people might work on television shows. no no
PatchChord_Adams

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« Reply #24 on: 06-23-2010 18:24 »

The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the Leela screaming part because it felt dragged on.

I liked the wake-up machine and Bender's sub-plot

Good start, probably better than BBS. Can't wait to see IDGDL tomorrow night!
Svip

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« Reply #25 on: 06-23-2010 18:25 »

Yes, but that was because that episode actually had to establish a lot of things, that episode must have been years in the making.  "Rebirth" did not have this luxury.
Uhm. They've had 7 years to mull over what they could do if the show ever returned. Then they made crappy movies that could easily have been cut down to simple 20 minute episodes with the major plot points covered in them, and...

I am sure that's how TV writers spend their time.  How did they not manage to pull it off!?

No, I think the short production schedule of this season, Matt Groening's and Cohen's disagreements on how to start the show and other issues have caused the first episodes (hopefully only these two) to be rushed and as a result sub par.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #26 on: 06-23-2010 19:30 »
« Last Edit on: 06-23-2010 19:42 »

Secondly, why did the Leela and Fry robots look different after removing their 'skin' then they did before it was put on?

For me, that was part of the funny.

Looks like someone doesn't like "Rebirth" (warning: spoilers).  I did comment saying where I disagreed with his strong assertments.

Oh Em Gee. What a dick. To say that it's awful is... well, awful. I felt Rebirth was a strong re-introduction to the return of the show, and that to be honest, such a transition needed to be fast and outlandish to work correctly. I really do feel that they did a great job with this one, perhaps hitting 80% of what they aimed for.

I've added my two cents to the comments section.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #27 on: 06-23-2010 19:50 »

Rebirth was definitely a strong return for Futurama. The only real problem I had with it was the obvious: it's a transition episode. It was necessary to be one, though, to please all the continuity nerds (read: us). Because of this, the subject of Fry/Leela had to be addressed (the subject with which I feel Futurama will jump the shark). The Fry/Leela aspect was actually something that I had a problem with IDGDL:
totalnerduk

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« Reply #28 on: 06-23-2010 19:52 »


Also, do we have to spoiler these things? There's a spoiler tag in the friggin' thread title.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #29 on: 06-23-2010 20:03 »

Personally, when referencing an episode that comes after another, especially in small time windows like days or weeks after the airing of the first episode, I would use spoilers. Some people may not have seen IDGDL yet, so I'd hold off until a few days overtly referencing it in here. Gotta give people a chance to get up to speed, yanno?
homerjaysimpson

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« Reply #30 on: 06-23-2010 20:05 »

The only thing I didn't like about this episode was the Leela screaming part because it felt dragged on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Yb_pGo1OWY&feature=related

I wonder where they got it from...
totalnerduk

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« Reply #31 on: 06-23-2010 20:06 »

Personally, when referencing an episode that comes after another, especially in small time windows like days or weeks after the airing of the first episode, I would use spoilers. Some people may not have seen IDGDL yet, so I'd hold off until a few days overtly referencing it in here. Gotta give people a chance to get up to speed, yanno?
Hmm. You may actually have a point. I forgot this was the thread for Rebirth rather than IAGDL. Watching rebirth again, the Cyclophage reminds me somewhat of a plucked chicken when it comes rampaging towards the crew for the first time. Hilarious, slightly eww-y, and very Futurama.
Gorky

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« Reply #32 on: 06-23-2010 20:57 »


koldstare64
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« Reply #33 on: 06-23-2010 23:20 »



To be honest Gorky, Fry and Leela's relationship has always kinda been inconsistent. Compare the beginning of the Farnsworth Parabox with The Devil's Hands are Idle Playthings. In the former episode, Fry laughs at Leela for having sweaty boot rash, then asks her out immediately after. In the latter, Fry "magically" aquires the propensity to compose an opera in order to express his undieing love for her. How consistent does that seem to you?
totalnerduk

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« Reply #34 on: 06-23-2010 23:22 »

He has help with the opera - without the devil's hands he wouldn't be able to realise his vision.

To be honest, the characterisation of the two seems consistent, it's just how their relationship hops around and is treated as there-one-minute-gone-the-next that's inconsistent.

Though they've been consistently inconsistent, at least. tongue
koldstare64
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« Reply #35 on: 06-23-2010 23:23 »

He has help with the opera - without the devil's hands he wouldn't be able to realise his vision.

He has help PLAYING the opera. Not writing it.
lilkitten29

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« Reply #36 on: 06-23-2010 23:36 »

I actually really enjoyed Rebirth!  Yes, it felt a bit rushed, but whatever, it was still entertaining. I loved the Fry/Leela stuff in the episode.
I haven't watched the 2nd episode yet, but I will later today.
totalnerduk

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« Reply #37 on: 06-23-2010 23:38 »

He has help with the opera - without the devil's hands he wouldn't be able to realise his vision.

He has help PLAYING the opera. Not writing it.

He needs to play it as he goes along with writing it. I suggest you watch the episode to see how his process works.
Nutmeg1729

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« Reply #38 on: 06-23-2010 23:48 »

He has help with the opera - without the devil's hands he wouldn't be able to realise his vision.

He has help PLAYING the opera. Not writing it.

He needs to play it as he goes along with writing it. I suggest you watch the episode to see how his process works.

And he says, in that episode, "I can hear all this amazing music in my head, but my stupid hands can't keep up,"

Or words to that effect, I don't remember the exact quote.

DO as tnuk says, go nerd up and get facts right smile
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #39 on: 06-23-2010 23:51 »

One of my favorite references in the episode:
"So she went all Blade Runner..."
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