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Svip
Administrator
DOOP Secretary
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I'm just here to add a few photos from the last Futurama episode table reading, taken by Glenn Fleishman (@GlennF):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennf/sets/72157624521553302/
Hey, John DiMaggio doesn't do the voice of Fry! (outraged)
Mmm....brainslug cupcakes...
I didn't see that he mentioned John doing the voice of Bender.. there's a photo of John and Billy yes.. but no mistake.. the other photo of John has no mistake neither
Read the description again: Voices of Bender and Fry (among others). John is a giant in all dimensions, and apparently (and obviously) a very nice guy. The first part of it sounds all right, but the second clause seems to add the context that he was referring to John voicing both characters. It's technically correct, but rather ambiguous.
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transgender nerd under canada
DOOP Ubersecretary
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Why kill off Bender? It wouldn't seem right to kill off one of the main three characters. Maybe kill off Hermes. He could die from a heart attack due to his fatness.
Noooo! Hermes provides some fantastic incidental humour. He gives us the mindless beurocratic perspective on the 31st Century. We need him! If they killed off his annoying wife and son though, I wouldn't mourn. He might, but I wouldn't. Not that they'll kill them off, as far as I can tell, they're not going to have continuity take any sudden, sharp turns that throw fans all over the car.
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Frida Waterfall
Professor
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I say kill Leela off if any- that's where you strike it hard.
Oh, wait, that would be mean.
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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Eh, I wouldn't care as much if Leela died. I have much more emotional investment with Fry. Actually, I felt horrible when Kif died, probably wouldn't have felt the same if it was Leela. Oh wait, [thinks to Rebirth] I didn't!
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Smarty
Professor
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Eh, I wouldn't care as much if Leela died. I have much more emotional investment with Fry. Actually, I felt horrible when Kif died, probably wouldn't have felt the same if it was Leela. Oh wait, [thinks to Rebirth] I didn't!
Even so, that's a bad example. I think that no one really felt sad at her death in that episode. I mean, there was that sense that they probably weren't going to kill her off for good in the first episode of the new season. But I agree, I'd find it harder to see Fry die.
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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How did you feel when you first saw The Sting then?
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CookiesOnTheFloor
Bending Unit
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Not to offend anyone, but I think this is nuts. Kill Leela, and you break a lot of hearts (including mine). Kill Fry, same thing. Ditto Bender. OR Farnsworth OR Kif or heck, anybody.
Except Zapp Brannigan. Face it, that schmuck's been cheating Death for years. And he's caused a lot of deaths with his arrogance and stupidity. Death for him would not only be logical, it'd be karma.
But why would anybody have to die? I agree with the person here who compared such a scenario with Deathly Hallows, where J.K. Rowling used massive kill-offs of characters as a pathetic attempt to generate drama (she's also a schmuck at times, IMO, although a very rich schmuck. Hey, she killed Mad-Eye! And Fred! And Snape! SNAPE!!!!) And Futurama is a comedy. Why should it need to kill off a major character? I don't get it...
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Smarty
Professor
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How did you feel when you first saw The Sting then?
Good point. Okay, there wasn't as much of an emotional build up in Rebirth as there was in the Sting, which focused on Leela and her difficulty coping with Fry's death. With Rebirth she was simply in a deep, coma.
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Ralph Snart
Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
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Eh, I wouldn't care as much if Leela died. I have much more emotional investment with Fry. Actually, I felt horrible when Kif died, probably wouldn't have felt the same if it was Leela. Oh wait, [thinks to Rebirth] I didn't! Yeah, but in Rebirth, everybody knew that Leela wouldn't die. Granted, Futurama is about Fry antics in the future, Leela is still one of "The Big Three", kinda like Kirk, Spock and McCoy were on Star Trek. I would guess that you're in the minority about feeling the way you do about Leela. I have nothing to base my assumption on except my own belief but I think that most people would hate to lose Leela most of all. Still, in the age of cloning, built-to-order robots "Reanimators", etc., death isn't a permament thing for Futurama. Even Bender can be melted into scrap and be bought back in a new "Bending Robot" body or newer model of robot since his memory is probably backed up on a daily basis when he "sleeps".
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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The emotional impact of Jurassic Bark was because Fry thought that Seymour had forgotten all about him, but, in fact, he waited for a decade for him to return. That's grandly tragic. I'm not discounting the emotional impact of if Fry were to die, but the emotional impact is in two different classes.
On my opinion if Leela were to die: for me, Leela's become extremely annoying since ITWGY, especially in these Season 6 episodes. Maybe it's just me, but I haven't had any emotional connection to her for a while now, so her loss wouldn't affect me much. In fact, I've never really had an emotional connection with her as I have with Fry or Bender, even Dr. Zoidberg!
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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I'm not a shipper whatsoever, so I could care less if she continually brushes Fry aside. What I meant was that, of all the full-of-heart character-centric stories, I've felt the least connected with Leela's. Forget her Fry interaction, I'm talking about A Leela of Her Own, Leela's Homeworld, etc. I feel less emotionally invested in her from her episodes than I do with Zoidberg from his (Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love and That's Lobstertainment! may be the only ones).
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Ralph Snart
Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
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On my opinion if Leela were to die: for me, Leela's become extremely annoying since ITWGY, especially in these Season 6 episodes. Maybe it's just me, but I haven't had any emotional connection to her for a while now, so her loss wouldn't affect me much. In fact, I've never really had an emotional connection with her as I have with Fry or Bender, even Dr. Zoidberg!
Taking away the Leela/Fry interaction from Leela's character leaves her very barren indeed. She is in many ways a completely unlikeable character; self-obsessed, selfish, vain (despite being a mutant), arrogant... I could go on. Even her altruistic moments often seem very insincere.
Leela on the other hand comes across as someone who feels they are as good as they can get and also a good as they need to be.
Wow, guys. I was practically drawn and quartered 3 years ago for saying the exact same things about Leela. Now, not even a peep from anybody coming to her defense. The problem I have with Leela is, I know a woman just like her. Well, she doesn't have purple hair and one eye, but she has the attitude. She's attractive and knows it, won't settle for dating anything less than a man who makes six figures a year, is kind to other, weaker men when it benefits her. She has even been known to have a "psuedo-relationship" with less-worthy men when it benefits her in ways that a normal person wouldn't even dream of. I admit to being one of the men in her chain of discarded people but now I sit back, shake my head in disgust/amazement at some of her antics and wonder when things will backfire on her. So that's where my dislike for Leela comes from - a person in real life who acts like the Leela character does. I'm pretty much an anti-shipper for that reason, but something in me wants her to realize that Fry is much better than those "important men" she fantasizes about being with. I don't want a kiss between the two every scene, but for her to at least treat him as a human being and not a cat toy to play with when she needs an ego-fix.
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orangec
Poppler
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If they kill of amy then that's it no more futurama for me.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Speaking as a shipper, I totally understand why people don't have as much of an emotional investment in Leela as they do in other characters. I mean, I was touched by episodes like "The Cyberhouse Rules", "Leela's Homeworld", and "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles"--all that abandoned-and-neglected-at-the-Orphanarium stuff, though a bit self-pitying (though perhaps no more so than, say, Fry's lament about having no family in "Xmas Story", or his attitude in "The Luck of the Fryrish" and "Jurassic Bark"), is generally well-done. It's the callous brush-offs of Fry and the over-emotionality (crying when Nibbler is flushed down the toilet then insisting that Bender have an empathy chip installed so he can understand her pain, for example) that tend to grate, and really work towards making Leela an unlikeable (or at the very least annoying) character. I actually think that seeing her gradually come around to Fry has made her much more accessible; stuff like her coming to Fry's defense, calling him "different-y", in "The Duh-Vinci Code" is the sort of thing I mean.
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FemJesse
Liquid Emperor
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Yea but right after she defends him, he's in the hospital for two weeks and she doesn't even visit him... And he stayed by her side for two whole weeks in "the Sting"... Not even a card!
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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Wow, guys. I was practically drawn and quartered 3 years ago for saying the exact same things about Leela. Now, not even a peep from anybody coming to her defense. All the shippers either quit PEEL due to IAGDL or have retreated to fan-fics. * i_c_weiner bellows an evil and maniacal laugh. Yea but right after she defends him, he's in the hospital for two weeks and she doesn't even visit him... [evillaugh] And he stayed by her side for two whole weeks in "the Sting"...
Not even a card!
That was my initial reaction as well. All this shipping talk here on PEEL and she's as mean as ever. That exchange really set the record straight that they're no couple. In fact, she doesn't even care for him at all!
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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She was pretty gung-ho about joining the Mile-Deep Club with him. So in addition to being malicious and wishy-washy, she's also a slut. By gum, I see your point!
Seriously, though, the not-visiting-Fry thing was a joke. It was meant to reinforce that whole Fry-is-unappreciated theme.
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i_c_weiner
DOOP Secretary
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I know it was a joke, but it hits at a truth about Leela's character. She doesn't have much of an emotional connection to the viewer past Fry, and is thus dispensable.
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Ralph Snart
Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
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She was pretty gung-ho about joining the Mile-Deep Club with him. So in addition to being malicious and wishy-washy, she's also a slut. By gum, I see your point! Hey, women get horny also. Fry was in the right location at the right time. Then the Professor cockblocked him. Notice that Leela didn't resist the cockblock attempt? Seriously, though, the not-visiting-Fry thing was a joke. It was meant to reinforce that whole Fry-is-unappreciated theme. And it succeeded quite well. There have been a large number of fanfics dedicated to Fry leaving PE or doing something really stupid like attempting suicide in the most inefficient ways possible. And Leela has ice-water running though her veins. She deserves to grow old, alone. With Nibbler being her only friend.
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