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« Reply #560 on: 07-19-2010 01:28 »

How about having a big emotional farewell for Bender (for example), then bringing him back two seconds later?

"Dat concludes da company-mandated funeral," Hermes said. "Now, put Bender's backup disk into dis spare bending unit I requisitioned last week, and get dat lazy robot loading da ship! Time is money, people!"

There, everyone's happy. smile

No.  Now that it is fanfiction, it sucks by definition.
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« Reply #561 on: 07-19-2010 03:02 »

No.  Now that it is fanfiction, it sucks by definition.

And it'll never happen in the show.  smile
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« Reply #562 on: 07-19-2010 03:18 »

We should write so much fanfiction that we cover every possible scenario the show might come across!
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« Reply #563 on: 07-19-2010 03:30 »

Why kill off Bender? It wouldn't seem right to kill off one of the main three characters. Maybe kill off Hermes. He could die from a heart attack due to his fatness.

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« Reply #564 on: 07-19-2010 03:36 »

I'm just here to add a few photos from the last Futurama episode table reading, taken by Glenn Fleishman (@GlennF):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennf/sets/72157624521553302/
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« Reply #565 on: 07-19-2010 04:54 »

I'm just here to add a few photos from the last Futurama episode table reading, taken by Glenn Fleishman (@GlennF):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennf/sets/72157624521553302/

Hey, John DiMaggio doesn't do the voice of Fry! (outraged)

Mmm....brainslug cupcakes...
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« Reply #566 on: 07-19-2010 05:47 »

I'm just here to add a few photos from the last Futurama episode table reading, taken by Glenn Fleishman (@GlennF):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennf/sets/72157624521553302/

Hey, John DiMaggio doesn't do the voice of Fry! (outraged)

Mmm....brainslug cupcakes...

I didn't see that he mentioned John doing the voice of Bender.. there's a photo of John and Billy yes.. but no mistake.. the other photo of John has no mistake neither

Also, I found a blog entry also by Glenn Fleishman:
http://blog.glennf.com/mtarchives/008627.html
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« Reply #567 on: 07-19-2010 11:44 »

I'm just here to add a few photos from the last Futurama episode table reading, taken by Glenn Fleishman (@GlennF):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/glennf/sets/72157624521553302/

Hey, John DiMaggio doesn't do the voice of Fry! (outraged)

Mmm....brainslug cupcakes...

I didn't see that he mentioned John doing the voice of Bender.. there's a photo of John and Billy yes.. but no mistake.. the other photo of John has no mistake neither

Read the description again:

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Voices of Bender and Fry (among others). John is a giant in all dimensions, and apparently (and obviously) a very nice guy.

The first part of it sounds all right, but the second clause seems to add the context that he was referring to John voicing both characters.  It's technically correct, but rather ambiguous.
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« Reply #568 on: 07-19-2010 13:20 »

But "technically correct" is the best kind of correct!

But yeah, I was confused by that at first two, at least for a few seconds.
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« Reply #569 on: 07-19-2010 20:37 »

Looked like everyone had a good time!
Man, I want one of those brain slug cupcakes...
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« Reply #570 on: 07-20-2010 01:16 »

Why kill off Bender? It wouldn't seem right to kill off one of the main three characters. Maybe kill off Hermes. He could die from a heart attack due to his fatness.



Noooo! Hermes provides some fantastic incidental humour. He gives us the mindless beurocratic perspective on the 31st Century. We need him! If they killed off his annoying wife and son though, I wouldn't mourn. He might, but I wouldn't.

Not that they'll kill them off, as far as I can tell, they're not going to have continuity take any sudden, sharp turns that throw fans all over the car.
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« Reply #571 on: 07-20-2010 03:43 »

We're talking about them killing people off in a movie finale well after the show is over.

They don't need to worry about keeping characters alive for the future because it would be the last Futurama ever.
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« Reply #572 on: 07-20-2010 03:46 »

That's about as likely as my cat learning to hula.
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« Reply #573 on: 07-20-2010 04:15 »

It would still end the series on a pretty sour note.  This show is a sitcom, not an episodic epic.  It's one thing to end particular episodes in sort of a sad or touching way, but killing off one of the mains would just be depressing.  It serves no function in a show like this.

The better way to invest the audience in the characters and the storyline is to suspend their disbelief...make them think it's possible that, say, a main character will die, but then still give them that relief when they end up surviving.  Make them think there's a real danger, but still end on a happy note with the ship flying off into the proverbial sunset.

I mean, I'm just saying.  Imagine walking out of the "The Simpsons Movie" saying "dude....Homer died."
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« Reply #574 on: 07-20-2010 04:22 »

The most fitting ending for the series would be Fry's death, if anybody's.

Although the most likely would be Farnsworth's, he's pretty old.
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« Reply #575 on: 07-20-2010 04:28 »

I say kill Leela off if any- that's where you strike it hard.

Oh, wait, that would be mean.
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« Reply #576 on: 07-20-2010 04:58 »

Eh, I wouldn't care as much if Leela died. I have much more emotional investment with Fry. Actually, I felt horrible when Kif died, probably wouldn't have felt the same if it was Leela. Oh wait, [thinks to Rebirth] I didn't!
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« Reply #577 on: 07-20-2010 05:02 »

Eh, I wouldn't care as much if Leela died. I have much more emotional investment with Fry. Actually, I felt horrible when Kif died, probably wouldn't have felt the same if it was Leela. Oh wait, [thinks to Rebirth] I didn't!

Even so, that's a bad example. I think that no one really felt sad at her death in that episode. I mean, there was that sense that they probably weren't going to kill her off for good in the first episode of the new season. But I agree, I'd find it harder to see Fry die.
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« Reply #578 on: 07-20-2010 05:04 »

How did you feel when you first saw The Sting then?
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« Reply #579 on: 07-20-2010 05:18 »

Not to offend anyone, but I think this is nuts. Kill Leela, and you break a lot of hearts (including mine). Kill Fry, same thing. Ditto Bender. OR Farnsworth OR Kif or heck, anybody.

Except Zapp Brannigan. Face it, that schmuck's been cheating Death for years. And he's caused a lot of deaths with his arrogance and stupidity. Death for him would not only be logical, it'd be karma.

But why would anybody have to die? I agree with the person here who compared such a scenario with Deathly Hallows, where J.K. Rowling used massive kill-offs of characters as a pathetic attempt to generate drama (she's also a schmuck at times, IMO, although a very rich schmuck. Hey, she killed Mad-Eye! And Fred! And Snape! SNAPE!!!!) And Futurama is a comedy. Why should it need to kill off a major character? I don't get it...
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« Reply #580 on: 07-20-2010 05:32 »

How did you feel when you first saw The Sting then?

Good point. Okay, there wasn't as much of an emotional build up in Rebirth as there was in the Sting, which focused on Leela and her difficulty coping with Fry's death. With Rebirth she was simply in a deep, coma.
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« Reply #581 on: 07-20-2010 06:20 »

But why would anybody have to die? I agree with the person here who compared such a scenario with Deathly Hallows, where J.K. Rowling used massive kill-offs of characters as a pathetic attempt to generate drama (she's also a schmuck at times, IMO, although a very rich schmuck. Hey, she killed Mad-Eye! And Fred! And Snape! SNAPE!!!!) And Futurama is a comedy. Why should it need to kill off a major character? I don't get it...

I'm just going to keep comparing it Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. I'm not saying they should kill off a character, I'm just saying that I personally, would really like it providing they did it properly.
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« Reply #582 on: 07-20-2010 18:04 »

Eh, I wouldn't care as much if Leela died. I have much more emotional investment with Fry. Actually, I felt horrible when Kif died, probably wouldn't have felt the same if it was Leela. Oh wait, [thinks to Rebirth] I didn't!

Yeah, but in Rebirth, everybody knew that Leela wouldn't die.

Granted, Futurama is about Fry antics in the future, Leela is still one of "The Big Three", kinda like Kirk, Spock and McCoy were on Star Trek.

I would guess that you're in the minority about feeling the way you do about Leela.  I have nothing to base my assumption on except my own belief but I think that most people would hate to lose Leela most of all.

Still, in the age of cloning, built-to-order robots "Reanimators", etc., death isn't a permament thing for Futurama.  Even Bender can be melted into scrap and be bought back in a new "Bending Robot" body or newer model of robot since his memory is probably backed up on a daily basis when he "sleeps".
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« Reply #583 on: 07-20-2010 18:59 »

I'd certainly hate for Leela to die most of all, but that's purely for Fry's sake.
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« Reply #584 on: 07-20-2010 19:03 »

Not to offend anyone, but I think this is nuts. Kill Leela, and you break a lot of hearts (including mine). Kill Fry, same thing.

Think of the emotional impact that would have for an ending. Jurassic Bark x1000.
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« Reply #585 on: 07-20-2010 20:24 »

The emotional impact of Jurassic Bark was because Fry thought that Seymour had forgotten all about him, but, in fact, he waited for a decade for him to return. That's grandly tragic. I'm not discounting the emotional impact of if Fry were to die, but the emotional impact is in two different classes.

On my opinion if Leela were to die: for me, Leela's become extremely annoying since ITWGY, especially in these Season 6 episodes. Maybe it's just me, but I haven't had any emotional connection to her for a while now, so her loss wouldn't affect me much. In fact, I've never really had an emotional connection with her as I have with Fry or Bender, even Dr. Zoidberg!
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« Reply #586 on: 07-20-2010 20:42 »

I have to agree that I couldn't care less about Leela, except that as long as she is alive she is still there to insult Fry and give him the brush off that he will never ever take as a final answer. This is what works in the show and there is no reason to change it. And if the writers have seen fit not to let that pointless ITWGY kiss get in the way of the dynamic I for one am very pleased.
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« Reply #587 on: 07-20-2010 20:46 »

I'm not a shipper whatsoever, so I could care less if she continually brushes Fry aside. What I meant was that, of all the full-of-heart character-centric stories, I've felt the least connected with Leela's. Forget her Fry interaction, I'm talking about A Leela of Her Own, Leela's Homeworld, etc. I feel less emotionally invested in her from her episodes than I do with Zoidberg from his (Why Must I Be A Crustacean In Love and That's Lobstertainment! may be the only ones).
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« Reply #588 on: 07-20-2010 22:04 »

Taking away the Leela/Fry interaction from Leela's character leaves her very barren indeed. She is in many ways a completely unlikeable character; self-obsessed, selfish, vain (despite being a mutant), arrogant... I could go on. Even her altruistic moments often seem very insincere.

Neither am I a shipper in any way but Fry's unrequited love for Leela is very important, I think. He knows that he isn't the sharpest tool in the box but he wants to improve himself, even if he will never manage it and Leela is one driving force for that desire. Leela on the other hand comes across as someone who feels they are as good as they can get and also a good as they need to be. It's kind of like Laurel and Hardy - Stan's a fool and knows it; Ollie's a fool and doesn't, and everyone warms to Stan the most.
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« Reply #589 on: 07-21-2010 02:19 »

the one character id be really upset about dying would be the zapper. he is my favorite character on the show, by far. why you ask? simple. he is a man's man.
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« Reply #590 on: 07-21-2010 02:48 »

shouldn't they have a clip for deadly inspection by now?
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« Reply #591 on: 07-21-2010 07:54 »


On my opinion if Leela were to die: for me, Leela's become extremely annoying since ITWGY, especially in these Season 6 episodes. Maybe it's just me, but I haven't had any emotional connection to her for a while now, so her loss wouldn't affect me much. In fact, I've never really had an emotional connection with her as I have with Fry or Bender, even Dr. Zoidberg!


Taking away the Leela/Fry interaction from Leela's character leaves her very barren indeed. She is in many ways a completely unlikeable character; self-obsessed, selfish, vain (despite being a mutant), arrogant... I could go on. Even her altruistic moments often seem very insincere.

Leela on the other hand comes across as someone who feels they are as good as they can get and also a good as they need to be.

Wow, guys.  I was practically drawn and quartered 3 years ago for saying the exact same things about Leela.  Now, not even a peep from anybody coming to her defense.

The problem I have with Leela is, I know a woman just like her.  Well, she doesn't have purple hair and one eye, but she has the attitude.  She's attractive and knows it, won't settle for dating anything less than a man who makes six figures a year, is kind to other, weaker men when it benefits her.  She has even been known to have a "psuedo-relationship" with less-worthy men when it benefits her in ways that a normal person wouldn't even dream of.

I admit to being one of the men in her chain of discarded people but now I sit back, shake my head in disgust/amazement at some of her antics and wonder when things will backfire on her.

So that's where my dislike for Leela comes from - a person in real life who acts like the Leela character does.  I'm pretty much an anti-shipper for that reason, but something in me wants her to realize that Fry is much better than those "important men" she fantasizes about being with.  I don't want a kiss between the two every scene, but for her to at least treat him as a human being and not a cat toy to play with when she needs an ego-fix.
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« Reply #592 on: 07-21-2010 15:49 »

If they kill of amy then that's it no more futurama for me.
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« Reply #593 on: 07-21-2010 19:42 »

Speaking as a shipper, I totally understand why people don't have as much of an emotional investment in Leela as they do in other characters. I mean, I was touched by episodes like "The Cyberhouse Rules", "Leela's Homeworld", and "Teenage Mutant Leela's Hurdles"--all that abandoned-and-neglected-at-the-Orphanarium stuff, though a bit self-pitying (though perhaps no more so than, say, Fry's lament about having no family in "Xmas Story", or his attitude in "The Luck of the Fryrish" and "Jurassic Bark"), is generally well-done. It's the callous brush-offs of Fry and the over-emotionality (crying when Nibbler is flushed down the toilet then insisting that Bender have an empathy chip installed so he can understand her pain, for example) that tend to grate, and really work towards making Leela an unlikeable (or at the very least annoying) character. I actually think that seeing her gradually come around to Fry has made her much more accessible; stuff like her coming to Fry's defense, calling him "different-y", in "The Duh-Vinci Code" is the sort of thing I mean.
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« Reply #594 on: 07-21-2010 20:34 »

Yea but right after she defends him, he's in the hospital for two weeks and she doesn't even visit him... evil laugh And he stayed by her side for two whole weeks in "the Sting"...

Not even a card!
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« Reply #595 on: 07-21-2010 21:02 »

Wow, guys.  I was practically drawn and quartered 3 years ago for saying the exact same things about Leela.  Now, not even a peep from anybody coming to her defense.
All the shippers either quit PEEL due to IAGDL or have retreated to fan-fics.
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Yea but right after she defends him, he's in the hospital for two weeks and she doesn't even visit him... [evillaugh] And he stayed by her side for two whole weeks in "the Sting"...

Not even a card!
That was my initial reaction as well. All this shipping talk here on PEEL and she's as mean as ever. That exchange really set the record straight that they're no couple. In fact, she doesn't even care for him at all!
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« Reply #596 on: 07-21-2010 21:46 »

She was pretty gung-ho about joining the Mile-Deep Club with him. So in addition to being malicious and wishy-washy, she's also a slut. By gum, I see your point!

Seriously, though, the not-visiting-Fry thing was a joke. It was meant to reinforce that whole Fry-is-unappreciated theme.
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« Reply #597 on: 07-21-2010 21:54 »

I know it was a joke, but it hits at a truth about Leela's character. She doesn't have much of an emotional connection to the viewer past Fry, and is thus dispensable.
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« Reply #598 on: 07-21-2010 21:57 »

I'm sure there are female viewers who relate to leela's feeling of isolation as the only cyclops, and frustration with the endless unwanted advances of a guy who is, at heart, a bit of a loser. Y'know, the kind of women who've made the guys who relate so much to fry bitter?
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« Reply #599 on: 07-21-2010 22:00 »

She was pretty gung-ho about joining the Mile-Deep Club with him. So in addition to being malicious and wishy-washy, she's also a slut. By gum, I see your point!

Hey, women get horny also.  Fry was in the right location at the right time.  Then the Professor cockblocked him.  Notice that Leela didn't resist the cockblock attempt?

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Seriously, though, the not-visiting-Fry thing was a joke. It was meant to reinforce that whole Fry-is-unappreciated theme.

And it succeeded quite well.  There have been a large number of fanfics dedicated to Fry leaving PE or doing something really stupid like attempting suicide in the most inefficient ways possible.

And Leela has ice-water running though her veins.

She deserves to grow old, alone.  With Nibbler being her only friend.
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