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Svip
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You mean because he used the word 'until' rather than 'unless'?
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Svip
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Are you sure that is Cohen's wording? Do you remember which interview it was?
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JavieR
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« Reply #526 on: 07-15-2010 03:05 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2010 03:06 »
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Are you sure that is Cohen's wording? Do you remember which interview it was?
It was one of the last interviews before the beginning of season 6 if i remember.. let me check... here: http://slurmed.com/news/2010-06-24/watch-the-new-futurama-episodes-today-at-comedy-central(or well, there you go the specific question and answer from tvsquad.com): When you mentioned that you might be doing another finale, is this 26 episodes it for now? Fox and Comedy Central haven't told you anything else?
Yeah, we're definitely not going to know anything for the future possibilities of the show before we wrap up production on these 26. I mean, the productions were actually almost done, the principal writing for the 26 episodes, we've recorded 24 of the 26 already, and the animation has begun on 24 of them in other words at this point.
So unless we were to get a phone call in the next month, we would start to ratchet down our operation here and the writers are going to go on to other jobs again and so on. But it's familiar territory for us, but because Comedy Centrals' airing these half this year, half next year, it's a little less of an emergency for them to make any decision if they want to order more or not. So we're very used to it, unfortunately.
Source: http://www.tvsquad.com/2010/06/23/david-x-cohen-on-futuramas-new-season/
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So I was right, Cohen did not say 'there's nothing else', he said 'we will be waiting for the phone call'.
I realise this might be trivial, but saying 'there's nothing else' sounds like Cohen is certain that nothing is going to happen, but saying, 'well, we are cautious optimistic', well... that's a whole other thing.
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Svip
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Also (from a later tweet) Buzz Aldrin was there! Possible guest star?
Nah, I guess he was just hanging out.
Well Maurice LaMarche has just posted on Facebook that he recorded a scene with him and that he is guest starring in the 'final' episode. So I guess I was right huh.
I guess I was being sarcastic, huh.
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But Buzz Aldrin? I think they would invite him to do some voice acting even if he was just there.
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Aki
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I would definitely prefer an ending like Devil's Hands, but not in the sense that it's about Fry and Leela hinting they'll get together, more in the sense that it's so open it wouldn't be thought of as an ending did the viewer not know it. Even if it's not the finale then, it will be a nice episode for a season finale. I'm just going to take this as it comes and hope for a continuation, but in worst case scenario I'm still happy as hell that we got this season.
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JavieR
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So I was right, Cohen did not say 'there's nothing else', he said 'we will be waiting for the phone call'.
I realize this might be trivial, but saying 'there's nothing else' sounds like Cohen is certain that nothing is going to happen, but saying, 'well, we are cautious optimistic', well... that's a whole other thing.
Well, I wrote "nothing else" because that's what I remembered from the interview, and later I found the link... That's why I also said I was kinda optimistic about CC ordering more episodes. But Buzz Aldrin? I think they would invite him to do some voice acting even if he was just there. From Maurice LaMarche Facebook: "Got to record a scene with Buzz Aldrin today, as he guested on Futurama. He was terrific with everyone, especially the little kids who visited the recording session."
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« Reply #537 on: 07-15-2010 18:45 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2010 18:48 »
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I guess my sarcasm is lost on everyone. I think idealy, I'd like Futurama's finale to be a theatrical film that actually does round everything off. So, I hope they keep making these semi-finales as they have been doing up until they go off the air again and then land a feature film deal.
I hope it ends with it being all a dream, and Fry waking up at Applied Cryogenics having knocked his head out. Man: "Wake up, kid, we need to clean the room." Fry: "How long was I out?" Man: "Depends on when you came in, we rarely clean these rooms." Fry: "I think it was New Year's 2000... or something." Man: "Oh boy, that's almost 15 years ago!" Or something. In fact, NEVER put me in charge of plot twists. Because you are going to hate me for it.
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Aki
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If they hope for a continuation and there is the possibility of one, they should do a semi-farewell, but if they're sure it won't continue they should do some big theatrical thing that really brought it down, ending all loose threads. Maybe they all die in a firely explosion except Zoidberg.
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Smarty
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Killing off Bender would be terrible. Don't be like Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Futurama isn't that dark to kill off major characters like that. If they're going to kill off a character, have it be like....just don't kill of characters. I mean, Kif "died" in Beast with a Billion Backs, but he did come back to life. If Bender sacrificed himself to save Fry, they'd somehow bring him back in some emotional way before the movie ended. It's not that they don't have the guts to do it...they don't have the heart to. Would you really want to end the entire run of Futurama with Bender dead? That's like Star Trek and Kirk in Generations.
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Aki
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I don't think Bender, no. But I would actually like the killing of another main character if for a purpose. Say, Amy dies saving Kif. Or, I think, Leela saving Fry. Yes, in a perfect world they'd end up together but I would actually consider Leela's death a perfect ending. If Fry gets any consolation in the end, at least. Another version would be Fry in yet another save-the-world-scenario, and having to choose between saving Leela and saving the Universe from destruction.
But Bender, no. Anyway Bender was pictured dead would be strange, because it would just look like he was sleeping.
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Aki
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I just realised an awesome plot I'd like for a future episode! Fry realises that he has another relative, the great great [...] grandson of his brother, i.e. Philip J. Fry XXXX or something. They meet and they are similar but this other Fry is a much more succesful one, more alike what we've seen from Philip J. Fry II. Leela obviously becomes interested in this "new" Fry, seeing as he lacks the one thing she dislikes about her Fry, and the whole episode could be really well character driven (without including any plot twists with Leela and new Fry hooking up or new Fry turning up to be a super villain).
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i_c_weiner
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But we already know that Professor Farnsworth is Fry's closest living relative, so somebody who shares his last name would have to be closer of a relative. This Philip J. Fry XXXX would share the same Y chromosome as our Fry, whereas it's possible the Professor does not, especially since his last name is different, denoting at one point one Philip J. Fry XIX (let's say) gave birth to a girl who then married a Mr. Farnsworth. The episode would retcon the pilot.
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Aki
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That two people share last names doesn't mean they're closely related. Farnsworth could well be closer related even though the other one is almost as closely related.
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i_c_weiner
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That two people share last names doesn't mean they're closely related. Farnsworth could well be closer related even though the other one is almost as closely related.
I explained in my post that, by sharing the same last name and given conventional naming standards, somebody sharing the name of Fry with our Fry would thus be more closely related to him than Professor Farnsworth. They would be guaranteed to share the same Y chromosome that Philip and Yancy share. Biologically, he'd be more closely related to this person than Farnsworth. And here's the quote from Space Pilot 3000: Leela: Interesting. Your DNA test shows one living relative. He's your great-great-great-great-great-great-great...
[Time Lapse. Fry is now fully dressed.]
Leela: ...great-great-great-great-great nephew.
Fry: That's great! What's the little guy's name?
Leela: Professor Hubert Farnsworth. So you could hazard up something and say "Well, maybe this guy's not registered", but I'm going to go with it breaking canon established in the pilot.
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Yeah, Fry and his grandmother conceived Fry's mother, not his father. And wasn't farnsworth actually his ONLY living relative (excluding cubert), not just his closest? I don't remember for sure...
Don't forget Igner! Dude...I was with you until you suggested killing off BENDER! This show is a comedy. Why go out with something so needlessly sad?
Bender was just an example and because Futurama's always been an emotional show when it's in full swing. Everybody at least comes close to crying at the end of Jurassic Bark. The Luck of the Fryrish and Bender's Big Score are also among some of my favourite Futurama productions and it's more than anything thanks to their emotional punches. Something like that would be perfect closure for me, allowing the character to finish with dignity. Like I said, it'd be like Spock in The Wrath of Khan. An emotional punch to a thrilling finale of a film. Edit: Balls, I missed the merge.
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DotheBartman
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Yeah, Fry and his grandmother conceived Fry's mother, not his father.
And wasn't farnsworth actually his ONLY living relative (excluding cubert), not just his closest? I don't remember for sure...
Don't forget Igner!
Dude...I was with you until you suggested killing off BENDER! This show is a comedy. Why go out with something so needlessly sad?
Bender was just an example and because Futurama's always been an emotional show when it's in full swing. Everybody at least comes close to crying at the end of Jurassic Bark. The Luck of the Fryrish and Bender's Big Score are also among some of my favourite Futurama productions and it's more than anything thanks to their emotional punches. Something like that would be perfect closure for me, allowing the character to finish with dignity. Like I said, it'd be like Spock in The Wrath of Khan. An emotional punch to a thrilling finale of a film.
Edit: Balls, I missed the merge.
I love those episodes too, but the sad/emotional aspects were part of the context of the story. Seymour's sad death wasn't just for the sake of being sad but to illustrate his love for Fry. Similar thing with "Lars." And these were still just specific episodes without any major bearing on most episodes afterward. We're still talking about a comedy here, not a big dramatic series that needs a big sad event just to tie everything together nicely. I'd like a fitting and, yes, somewhat emotional ending to the series, but I wouldn't see the purpose in making it needlessly sad.
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