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Wonderpants

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« Reply #80 on: 10-10-2009 21:38 »


Ah, Man! Why did women and their sick, blood letting ritual have to ruin the word period!? WHY ARE YOU SO SELFISH, WOMEN!?

Never trust anything that bleeds for several days and doesn't die.
leiapadme77

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« Reply #81 on: 10-10-2009 23:17 »

Yes, I know we're confusing.Sorry, I can't help being a woman! And  I'm not sure what that has to do with Futurama!! Lol
Marcus
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« Reply #82 on: 10-11-2009 00:35 »

Never trust anything that bleeds for several days and doesn't die.
Too much South Park for you, young man tongue

Also, Leela would be kicking our asses so hard right now...  eek So, wth, in for a penny - Dear Futurama Gods, I hope the new series contains:

a cameo for the Amazonians;
further explanation of the Nibblonian's 'no... there is another' comment;
Zapp and Kif to somehow resume their double act... Kif and Amy work without each other (as characters), but Zapp and Kif _need_ each other for the making funnies...

Any chance of any of these? Far cooler ideas you'd want explored in the new series? Say on!
leiapadme77

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« Reply #83 on: 10-11-2009 00:44 »

Yeah, Leela would not be too happy about the female bashing. Yes, Kif and Zapp really need eachother. Actually,  Kif can survive without Zapp, but Zapp is nothing without Kif! And while we're on the subject, I really hope Kif and Amy's relationship continues. I think the bender\Amy thing will be interesting, but it's dissapointing for Kif and Amy.
Gorky

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« Reply #84 on: 10-11-2009 01:33 »

FoA: You're really sold on this new concept as groundbreaking and emotionally-affecting, and I suppose I agree to an extent. I just thought the zoo thing would be a pretty epic way to return--safer, perhaps, but also bound to be hilarious. I hadn't considered the fact that the Zapp/Leela episode is probably borrowing some beats from the proposed zoo episode (particularly with that forced mating thing, which I agree would have been strange and crass when applied to Fry and Leela).

I guess I'm just a bit skeptical--I mean, who's to say that this rebirth concept will be treated as a Big Deal? I suppose my fear is that it will ultimately feel like a cop-out; if the writers don't devote enough time to actually bringing the crew back to life, as it were--if it is resolved too early on in the episode--then the entire thing will just feel pointless. Really, I'm just being cynical; I certainly hope that the episode turns out the way you expect it to, because that would be pretty sweet.
Tedward

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« Reply #85 on: 10-11-2009 01:48 »
« Last Edit on: 10-11-2009 01:50 »

Well, there is no solid evidence (lots and lots of hopeful speculation, yes, but still no solid evidence)...yet  tongue... that the rebirth will be "a Big Deal" sort of thing. However, I hope that it will be a big deal, for as we've said before and you just said now, if they were just brought back to life (or are still alive and just given new bodies) too soon and then life just goes on without any real changes (as I fear that it could), then having them crash in the first place would indeed have been pointless. So with that in mind, we'll continue to hope for a Big Deal.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #86 on: 10-11-2009 04:42 »

Gorken, me and Ted Wardington are totally skeptical! We have every fear that the writers will "puss out" and not do the very best they can with this concept. It's just that we like the idea so much, and support it, that we hope with very few clues whether they did right by it or not (other than Lamarche's praise (which is nice)) that they did right by it. It's just, the concept is so radical that I have to believe they did it right. I mean, they have to be too smart to screw this up.

The episode is titled Rebirth, for Robot God's sake! Why would they name the episode after something that would only happen in the first few minutes (if they did it wrong)? Why bother naming it something serious over a pun (it will likely be the only episode in Futurama history that has a title which isn't a pun (well, I guess a theatrical movie also wouldn't have a pun for a title, but that's beside the point))? What would the rest of the episode even be about if they just had a quick, cheap solution to bringing the crew back? And duh, why bother doing something so radical if you're only going to throw it away?

Believe me, I'm just crazy enough to take all this as signs that the episode was done right. It'd be downright stupid to have done it wrong. I have to believe that the writers sat there in the writing room and seriously conversed about how to handle this. They can't have just pumped it out, not after all we've done for them! Not after all the crew (and us along with them) have been through!

Phew! Breath in, breath out. Ok.

Seriously, this episode worries and excites me more than I've ever been before for Futurama. Just when I think I'm a well-adjusted person and Futurama is a "pretty good show", there comes this to make me into a nervous, excited wreck (at least while I'm sitting in front of a computer) and unleash the Superfan within. This has to be a good thing. I have to believe that.
leiapadme77

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« Reply #87 on: 10-11-2009 04:56 »

You are very emotionally involved in this!! I'm a hardcore fan too...it's all I think about. If you really want to enjoy something, you gotta just accept it as is, no matter what the writers do! We need to stop worrying about all the details and being so analytical about everything. I thought BBS was sorta strange at first, but then I grew to love it. I can't wait to see the new episode, but if I worry about if it will be good or not, it will drive me crazy for the next 8 months!! That's why I just sit back and relax and know that the writers will do a great job no matter what, even if it's not what we wanted.. (Although I hope and pray that Fry/Leela's relationship goes somewhere) don't worry....
Have a little faith! Don't drive yourself insanse because of it!
Freako

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« Reply #88 on: 10-11-2009 05:50 »

I'll have to agree with leia, you really look a bit too hard into it.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #89 on: 10-11-2009 06:25 »

You are very emotionally involved in this!! I'm a hardcore fan too...it's all I think about. If you really want to enjoy something, you gotta just accept it as is, no matter what the writers do! We need to stop worrying about all the details and being so analytical about everything. I thought BBS was sorta strange at first, but then I grew to love it. I can't wait to see the new episode, but if I worry about if it will be good or not, it will drive me crazy for the next 8 months!! That's why I just sit back and relax and know that the writers will do a great job no matter what, even if it's not what we wanted.. (Although I hope and pray that Fry/Leela's relationship goes somewhere) don't worry....
Have a little faith! Don't drive yourself insanse because of it!

I do have faith. I just don't have so much that I'd walk off a cliff.

I love Futurama, which is why I don't just accept it as it is. I see Futurama, this amazing little show that did things I never thought any show (let alone a cartoon) could do, and I still see room for improvement. I'm apprehensive and worried because I don't just want Futurama to just be back. I want it to rocket out and just keep going faster and faster, shine brighter and brighter. I want it to be glorious!

Rebirth seriously has a lot of weight on its shoulders. So many things Rebirth has to pull off. It has to be funny, it has have a real purpose (no easy fixes), it has to be emotionally affecting. It will tell us which direction F/L are going, it will tell us what direction the show is going. Are they willing to delve into this universe they created more, or will they just let it stagnate?

Many people, when faced with greatness, slulk back in fear of losing what they have. They won't risk it all to get it all. I hope the writers can see the greatness they've already made, and the further greatness they could attain, and stand strong, and walk hard.

I'll have to agree with leia, you really look a bit too hard into it.

That's part of what being a die-hard fan is about wink.
leiapadme77

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« Reply #90 on: 10-11-2009 06:34 »

No, I totally understand how you feel. I want it to be perfect too. The writers know  they have to reach some pretty high standards. I guess I'm just lying to myself and pretending everything will turn out fine because I will drive myself insane in the mainframe if I dwell on it for 8 months!
But I think it's good you expect a lot from this episode, I do too. I think we all do. I suppose I'm just going into it with lower standards so I'm not disapointed. I got myself really hyped up and worried about ITWGY, and it was good. But I think I would have enjoyed it more if I wasn't freaking out and reading millions of spoilers all over peel.
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #91 on: 10-11-2009 06:43 »

PEEL is a breeding ground for spoilers and even with spoiler tags you just have to to read them. There is no escaping. Unless you're determined that you will go for 8 months without reading a single spoiler (highly unlikely).
Freako

Urban Legend
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« Reply #92 on: 10-11-2009 06:53 »

That's part of what being a die-hard fan is about wink.

What does Die hard have to do with Futurama?

/lamejoke
coldangel

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« Reply #93 on: 10-11-2009 10:03 »

I almost kind of hope the new season is axed before they have a chance to finish making it, because I'd derive great amusement from watching FistfulOAwesome cut himself and weep.
Freako

Urban Legend
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« Reply #94 on: 10-11-2009 10:13 »

We could film it and make that into our new favorite show, it'll be called "Fist-o-rama"

No wait...
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #95 on: 10-11-2009 17:20 »

O.K. you guys, tell me. Which one of my brothers leaked the plot and title of my next YouTube video to you two?
Tedward

Professor
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« Reply #96 on: 10-11-2009 17:53 »

PEEL is a breeding ground for spoilers and even with spoiler tags you just have to to read them. There is no escaping. Unless you're determined that you will go for 8 months without reading a single spoiler (highly unlikely).

Yes, I wish I hadn't read about the Dark One's identity before seeing ITWGY...I'll never know if I would have figured it out or not...

I almost kind of hope the new season is axed before they have a chance to finish making it, because I'd derive great amusement from watching FistfulOAwesome cut himself and weep.

You know, coldy, I'd probably have a similar reaction as Fistful in that scenario. Would that do anything for you?  tongue

Gorken, me and Ted Wardington are totally skeptical!

Nice work with the alternate names there. If you want, "Teduardo" is available...

And FoA, you have again expressed my feelings exactly on the subject. Having seen your ardent words of hope on the page and leiapadme’s reactions, I had to step back for a moment and agree that it can’t be a good thing to obsess over “Rebirth” being the way we want it to be for the entire time we’re waiting for it to arrive…on the other hand, though, it’s not like there’s a specific line or something we’re waiting for, it’s more of a direction for the episode that is still open to all kinds of interpretation. There are many ways the episode can be what we want it to be and still be surprising, and what we want of this episode (and the rest of the series, really) might not be too much to ask. As we’ve stated, it would be awful (or awful at least as far as we’re concerned) for “Rebirth” to not address the things we’ve mentioned or to just reset everything for no reason other than having a clean slate from which new episodic stories can come.

I love Futurama, which is why I don't just accept it as it is. I see Futurama, this amazing little show that did things I never thought any show (let alone a cartoon) could do, and I still see room for improvement. I'm apprehensive and worried because I don't just want Futurama to just be back. I want it to rocket out and just keep going faster and faster, shine brighter and brighter. I want it to be glorious!

I know how you feel. Yes, Futurama is just a cartoon. I understand that. And yet for some reason FOR REASONS UNKNOWN, it is important to me. Yes, it is a wonderful show, but there’s something additionally special about it that makes it really stand out to me. It’s gotten to the point several times where, having been disappointed by the show in some way, be it some continuity error or just a subpar story, I almost resent it for not being as amazing as I think it should be. Is this selfish? Probably so, and it seems selfish to expect that just by considering it to be my favorite show, it should therefore be as perfect as it can be for my own benefit. Still, I want to love it, and that seems to mean that I want certain things of it that seem reasonable but may not be what happen.

Hmm...I'd better calm down too.
Wonderpants

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« Reply #97 on: 10-11-2009 18:39 »

I'll have to agree with leia, you really look a bit too hard into it.

This.

It is only an animated cartoon that's not meant to be taken seriously.

And yes, I know I'm one to talk.
Tedward

Professor
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« Reply #98 on: 10-11-2009 18:54 »

It is only an animated cartoon

That's true.

that's not meant to be taken seriously.

Hmm...I'm not as sure about that one.  wink
were back baby!

Near Death Star Inhabitant
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« Reply #99 on: 10-11-2009 18:58 »

Niblers shadow was at the end of the movie Cohen said at Q&A. A new animal the professor makes with two heads one at the top and one at the bottom which vomits and shits out his mouth bring on the new season baby!
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #100 on: 10-11-2009 19:00 »

Tedinski Wardzikof (I'm trying to challenge myself by nicknaming both parts), don't worry about me. My hopes are high, I'm probably very hyped, but I'm doing my best to hold myself back. My standards are high (Futurama made them that way), but they are far from impossible. I'll be watching Rebirth fully intent on giving it the chance it deserves.

I know how you feel about the being let down by the show before. I honestly do love it, and really want to give it credit for all the great things it's managed to do. But I felt those times you did (when there was a subpar or continuity ignoring (difference?) episode) when I thought maybe it was just a "pretty good" show all along, and not the amazing show I wanted to give it credit for.

I think with Futurama you could say that it's a great show that frequently takes trips into amazingness, and that with a little harder work, it could just move into amazingness entirely. That's what I hope Rebirth will convey. That the writers want the show to unleash its full potential, and be the shooting star we see it could be.

Wopa, I understand that it must be weird to see my posts and look into the mind of a Supernerd. But I can't help myself. It's just such a good show, and I feel PEEL is the proper place to get to act out like this (in the fellowship of nerds).

Really, it's up to the individual how serious they want to take the show. The fans all come from different perspectives, with guys like the casual viewer who sees it as something to pass the time, the ardent viewer who sees it as a great show, the fan who sees it as an amazing show, and the Super Fan who sees it as something more.

Serious is a strange word. If you mean that at the end of the day it's just a show that's only meant to entertain, that is obvious. It's also not fun. You could say that about any piece of entertainment, but then why do we care so much? It's because entertainment has always been a part of our lives, and a necessary part at that. You always need to unwind after the daily hunt, and it completely makes sense to be attached to those things you unwind with.

Within the confines of my nerdiness, I take Futurama seriously. It's one of my favorite ways to unwind, and I'd like it very much to be even more unwindful (not a word).
KurtPikachu2001

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« Reply #101 on: 10-11-2009 19:45 »
« Last Edit on: 10-11-2009 19:47 »

Can't wait for the episode "Rebirth"!  Too bad I can't download YouTube on my computer!  if only I can see the preview!    I'm still hoping for a spy-mission episode.    I think the F/L relationship will be taken slow until they really get together.  As for the Bender/Amy thing, maybe it will be a temporary one episode thing like PYHOMS was with Fry and Amy.

Rebirth  sounds like it will be a great episode. 
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #102 on: 10-11-2009 20:05 »

Is anyone else hoping for an episode where they explain what happened between DHAIP and BBS?

That reset really bugged me....
Tedward

Professor
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« Reply #103 on: 10-11-2009 20:20 »

Is anyone else hoping for an episode where they explain what happened between DHAIP and BBS? 

I highly doubt they would even bother to try to fix that unfortunate gap. I've essentially resorted to trying to ignore it...although a good while ago someone (it was Archonix, I believe) had the idea that since there was originally only one movie planned before they negotiated to four, ITWGY (or something that eventually became ITWGY) was that original movie, since if you were to watch that right after Devil's Hands the Fry-Leela things make a surprisingly comforting amount of sense...

And FoA...Tedinski Wardzikof? Wopa? Nicely done, sir.

I think with Futurama you could say that it's a great show that frequently takes trips into amazingness, and that with a little harder work, it could just move into amazingness entirely. That's what I hope Rebirth will convey. That the writers want the show to unleash its full potential, and be the shooting star we see it could be.

That's the conclusion I usually come to.

Again, you've expressed (and very well, I might add) my thoughts on the show, the hope for what's to come, and the different strata of seriousness regarding our obsessive fandom. And again, I suppose we must continue hoping for the best.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #104 on: 10-11-2009 21:16 »

Is anyone else hoping for an episode where they explain what happened between DHAIP and BBS? 

I highly doubt they would even bother to try to fix that unfortunate gap. I've essentially resorted to trying to ignore it...although a good while ago someone (it was Archonix, I believe) had the idea that since there was originally only one movie planned before they negotiated to four, ITWGY (or something that eventually became ITWGY) was that original movie, since if you were to watch that right after Devil's Hands the Fry-Leela things make a surprisingly comforting amount of sense...

Yeah I suppose it was a bit of a long shot....
Also the fact that they ignored BBS's ending in Yonder makes more sense if you think of it that way....
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #105 on: 10-11-2009 21:26 »

(Inquisitively) Hey. There were always three stories in AOI episodes. There were three movies (stories) before ITWGY. I'm just sayin', whatever makes you happier.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #106 on: 10-11-2009 22:36 »

(Inquisitively) Hey. There were always three stories in AOI episodes. There were three movies (stories) before ITWGY. I'm just sayin', whatever makes you happier.

Yes...Yes... What if Time Travel was possible?/What if the universe cracked open?/What if Bender had an imagination?

I like that idea...but I also like the films...I don't really want to think of them as a long 4.5 hour long AOI episode.
They're too funny and Interesting to be ignored like that (yes, even the medieval crap in BG).
 
FistfulOAwesome

Starship Captain
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« Reply #107 on: 10-11-2009 23:40 »

I disagree, but whatever floats your boat, man!
Gorky

Space Pope
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« Reply #108 on: 10-12-2009 00:51 »

Is anyone else hoping for an episode where they explain what happened between DHAIP and BBS?

That reset really bugged me....

I agree with Tedward that that's probably not happening, but I definitely hope that we get some more flashback episodes. Fry and Leela, in particular, have a lot in their pasts that could be explored further (I loved those glimpses we got into Leela's childhood as an orphan in "The Cyberhouse Rules" and "Leela's Homeworld"). That episode that's supposed to explain the origin of Zoidberg coming to work for Farnsworth sounds sort of flashback-y, but I'd still like to see more episodes on-par with "The Luck of the Fryrish" or "Jurassic Bark."
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #109 on: 10-12-2009 00:57 »

Is anyone else hoping for an episode where they explain what happened between DHAIP and BBS?

That reset really bugged me....

I agree with Tedward that that's probably not happening, but I definitely hope that we get some more flashback episodes. Fry and Leela, in particular, have a lot in their pasts that could be explored further (I loved those glimpses we got into Leela's childhood as an orphan in "The Cyberhouse Rules" and "Leela's Homeworld"). That episode that's supposed to explain the origin of Zoidberg coming to work for Farnsworth sounds sort of flashback-y, but I'd still like to see more episodes on-par with "The Luck of the Fryrish" or "Jurassic Bark."

Ah, yes. Flashback episodes are definitly what we need more of. I just love getting to look into the characters' past. (And the great endings we get wth that)
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #110 on: 10-12-2009 02:35 »

I want more flashback episodes purely on their reputation. They always turned out to be wonderful (I even liked the one in BBS (though not the parts that are retcons to 304 and 407)). I'm not sure what more they could reveal about Fry and Leela, but I'm sure they'll find something.

Of course, they don't have to be about Fry or Leela. The upcoming one about Zoidberg and the Professor sounds interesting, and someone once mentioned one about Zapp would be pretty sweet (maybe a parody of the recent Star Trek reboot). So far, flashback episodes have been mostly melodramatic (F/L seem to be the only ones who can work like that), so a couple stops into comedic territory would be refreshing.
leiapadme77

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #111 on: 10-12-2009 05:35 »

Yes, I am definitely looking forward to the flashback-y episodes. I think the one about Zoidbergs origin will be funny.
And more AOI episodes will be great. I'm pretty sure DXC said there would be another one, although they hadn't come up with any ideas for it.
I think those are great because you can explore stories that are waaay out there, that wouldn't work in the actual storyline of Futurama, for example, Bender becoming human. Oh, and Fry and Leela sleeping together (that one's my favourite) smile
It will be interesting to see what they do with those.
Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #112 on: 10-12-2009 05:40 »

Ah yes, the AOIs. Those are great, always good if you want a senario that's too insane to put in a normal episode smile
leiapadme77

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #113 on: 10-12-2009 05:43 »

@Go-a-Green Did you find me on Youtube? I'm guessing that was you that made a comment on my latest Fry/Leela video. I really need to make another one, but I can't think of a good song. Any ideas???
Sorry, a bit off topic....

Anyway, I think maybe an AOI about Fry/Leela getting married and having children would be funny.
Aki

Professor
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« Reply #114 on: 10-12-2009 16:33 »

I really love the flashbacks that shows the professor's old life... they also show a lot of history between our time and the beginning of the series; the first robots et cetera. So I'd love to see his youth come into the story in some way, like Fry in Luck of the Fryrish, with cuts between year 300 and year 2900-whatever.
Wonderpants

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« Reply #115 on: 10-12-2009 21:33 »

//looks at the last three avatars

//fantasises
Marcus
Starship Captain
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« Reply #116 on: 10-12-2009 21:42 »

**looks at the fantasies

**draws
leiapadme77

Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #117 on: 10-12-2009 21:59 »

Hehe. I love my avatar! Leela is hot.
Wonderpants

Bending Unit
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« Reply #118 on: 10-12-2009 22:20 »

**looks at the fantasies

**draws

Get moving! big grin
Freako

Urban Legend
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« Reply #119 on: 10-13-2009 04:46 »

Does anybody else find it funny how the planet express crew outside of work don't really seem to have any friends of their own?
Apart from bender, that is.

I guess we'll see what the future holds, maybe they'll look into that.
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