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FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #600 on: 05-26-2010 07:18 »

Frisco, thank you man. I was going to write a mega-rant on the shipper page (bring up that old chestnut (get off my lawn!)), but you've convinced me that DXC might have meant that the relationship would be "on" when the episode had a joke or plot for it and otherwise "off" if the episode didn't call for it at all. Seriously, thanks for saving me a lot of time and unnecessary fanboy outrage.

Some more speculation/thoughts:

*Since Ferguson is supposed to be voicing another mutation of Leela's, I'd guess that he's part of 612. Perhaps Leela mutates him for some reason (age, rebirth side-effect, extra time spent in the sewers) and he ends up outing her (or constantly near-outing her) as a mutant (won't shut up), thus serving as a catalyst for her being a more integral part of the Mutant Rights movement (she's carted down, so she'd have ever more reason to help the movement succeed so she could return to the surface).

*I'd say that the head-licking episode probably won't only do with the Revolutionary War. I don't think they'd really have enough material to just do it about that one event. It be more fun to have several heads licked to have several adventures from different characters perspectives, or an entire episode about this being a new drug craze that has to be stopped (possibly by a coalition of heads).

*For the record, this head episode where they come up with some excuse to cart the characters into historic roles is what It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia did in "The Gang Cracks The Liberty Bell" or The Simpsons in several episodes.

*Chris Elliot as a censoring space probe sounds like it could be an episode on its own. Probably a parody of the FCC and/or general prudish sensibilities when it comes to "edgy" content. Also, for no reason it reminds me of NORAD. Seriously, not the same plot or characterization at all, yet I thought about "The Changeling" when I read that.
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« Reply #601 on: 05-26-2010 07:55 »


*For the record, this head episode where they come up with some excuse to cart the characters into historic roles is what It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia did in "The Gang Cracks The Liberty Bell" or The Simpsons in several episodes.


Yeah and what Simpsons are usually doing with it is why iīm kinda scared of this, expecting cheap history jokes.
Freako

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« Reply #602 on: 05-26-2010 08:03 »

They are my least favorite kinds of episodes of the Simpsons. I like the clip shows more than them.
Rhodan

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« Reply #603 on: 05-26-2010 08:05 »

Couldnīt agree more.  Altough I kinda liked "Color Yellow" to be honest.
Freako

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« Reply #604 on: 05-26-2010 08:07 »

I haven't seen that one but, This is Futurama and not The Simpsons so I can't really judge the quality of a type of episode based on a completely different show.
Rhodan

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« Reply #605 on: 05-26-2010 08:13 »

Well, I think Roswell was decent enough in this aspect. However, even now I see how many jokes will be spent on the fact that Founding fathers were corrupt slavers and such...
Svip

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« Reply #606 on: 05-26-2010 11:50 »

*Since Ferguson is supposed to be voicing another mutation of Leela's, I'd guess that he's part of 612. Perhaps Leela mutates him for some reason (age, rebirth side-effect, extra time spent in the sewers) and he ends up outing her (or constantly near-outing her) as a mutant (won't shut up), thus serving as a catalyst for her being a more integral part of the Mutant Rights movement (she's carted down, so she'd have ever more reason to help the movement succeed so she could return to the surface).

We already know Craig Ferguson is guest appearing in the second episode.  The Infosphere knows.  Also, theinfosphere.org/Craig_Ferguson.  I realise it hasn't been updated with the new interview, but I wish I wasn't so busy this week.
Gorky

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« Reply #607 on: 05-26-2010 14:20 »

Damn it, Svip, where has here has your single-minded devotion to the Infosphere gone? The nerdlingers need you, man! tongue

As far as what Frisco said about Fry and Leela: I suppose that makes sense. I don't think the writers are dumb enough to go back to the stasis of the first four seasons (particularly season four); I guess I'm cautiously optimistic. It's not like a mucked-up ship is going to ruin my enjoyment of this new season--but handling it more adeptly would be a nice change of pace.

And I still think that head-licking episode sounds really funny. It has been my experience that things that seem a bit too much on The Simpsons actually work quite well on Futurama--not only is the taking-place-1000-years-in-the-future thing  helpful, I just feel like the Futurama writers handle quirkier/wackier plots much more intelligently. 
bend_her

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« Reply #608 on: 05-26-2010 14:55 »

All this talk about Devo puts to rest the theory that the Futurama crew were going to axe celeb appearances to reduce their budget. I hope nothing else takes a hit instead.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #609 on: 05-26-2010 15:57 »

*Since Ferguson is supposed to be voicing another mutation of Leela's, I'd guess that he's part of 612. Perhaps Leela mutates him for some reason (age, rebirth side-effect, extra time spent in the sewers) and he ends up outing her (or constantly near-outing her) as a mutant (won't shut up), thus serving as a catalyst for her being a more integral part of the Mutant Rights movement (she's carted down, so she'd have ever more reason to help the movement succeed so she could return to the surface).

We already know Craig Ferguson is guest appearing in the second episode.  The Infosphere knows.  Also, theinfosphere.org/Craig_Ferguson.  I realise it hasn't been updated with the new interview, but I wish I wasn't so busy this week.

I remember that now. Damn, I thought I figured something out. Well, why does she have him in 602 is the new question. Perhaps the environmental conditions cause her to mutate him. I'm trying to figure it out since it'd be too much of a stretch to believe that Leela has been hiding him all these years and since we know the episode is going to have to get rid of him by the end.

And I still think that head-licking episode sounds really funny. It has been my experience that things that seem a bit too much on The Simpsons actually work quite well on Futurama--not only is the taking-place-1000-years-in-the-future thing  helpful, I just feel like the Futurama writers handle quirkier/wackier plots much more intelligently. 

I'd say The Simpsons handled quirky/wacky plots during the first 9 seasons just as well as Futurama. I'm not a fan of not giving The Simpsons its due respect.
Gorky

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« Reply #610 on: 05-26-2010 16:01 »

It should go without saying that whenever I criticize the Simpsons, seasons 2 through, like, 10 are pretty much exempt from such criticism. I really just meant the current seasons.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #611 on: 05-26-2010 16:49 »

All this talk about Devo puts to rest the theory that the Futurama crew were going to axe celeb appearances to reduce their budget. I hope nothing else takes a hit instead.
I don't think Devo is going to be that expensive anyway. Not the most famous or pricey people at the moment. Additionally, there's only mention of Mark Mothersbaugh in that interview. They could've gotten just Mark, animated the entire group, and called it "Zomg Devo guest starring!" But, considering how geeky Futurama is, I bet they got all of Devo to guest.

I remember that now. Damn, I thought I figured something out. Well, why does she have him in 602 is the new question. Perhaps the environmental conditions cause her to mutate him. I'm trying to figure it out since it'd be too much of a stretch to believe that Leela has been hiding him all these years and since we know the episode is going to have to get rid of him by the end.
I actually feel like it would be the latter "too much of a stretch" (as you put it) option. If she mutates to have a Craig Ferguson growth, Zapp would get something too. And it's funnier if she's been hiding this for years. Even funnier if she just realized it was there now.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #612 on: 05-26-2010 17:21 »

Well, why does she have him in 602 is the new question. Perhaps the environmental conditions cause her to mutate him. I'm trying to figure it out since it'd be too much of a stretch to believe that Leela has been hiding him all these years and since we know the episode is going to have to get rid of him by the end.
I actually feel like it would be the latter "too much of a stretch" (as you put it) option. If she mutates to have a Craig Ferguson growth, Zapp would get something too. And it's funnier if she's been hiding this for years. Even funnier if she just realized it was there now.

I don't think Zapp would mutate. Leela's DNA is still quite different to a regular humans so if she does mutate Ferguson on the planet, it could be some sort of reaction to something in the environment. Zapp would not be affected since he is a regular human and immune to the things Leela isn't immune to.

I'm not so sure how funny it would really be that Leela has been hiding Ferguson. She's been naked around everyone else several times so I don't know how she would have been able to keep him secret. Also, I don't like new mutant traits on Leela (like those elbow talons). 402 had the doctor who delivered her say she was the least mutated mutant ever born, and I was comfortable with that. But now you add elbow talons and an extra independently-thinking mouth (or head or whatever he is) and it just makes the doctor sound like a quack.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #613 on: 05-26-2010 18:16 »

It was a mutant doctor. I don't think Port-a-Johns Hopkins Medical is all it's cracked up to be.
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #614 on: 05-26-2010 18:17 »
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From the Proposition Infinity episode by the looks of it
Jezzem

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« Reply #615 on: 05-26-2010 18:57 »

But I'm not done vomiting!
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #616 on: 05-26-2010 19:25 »

He's Hedonism Bot, not S&Mbot!
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #617 on: 05-26-2010 19:36 »

At first glance, I thought he was a cop.
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« Reply #618 on: 05-26-2010 20:02 »

At first glance, I thought he was a cop.

haha me too, I guess even Hedonism Bot needs some action
El-Man

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« Reply #619 on: 05-26-2010 23:40 »

^^Any bets as to how long until something like that ends up on Rule34?

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Whaddaya all looking at me for??
Freako

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« Reply #620 on: 05-27-2010 00:22 »

There already is Hedonism 34. and that sentence usually only applies to things that are female.

Like if there is an extra mouth somewhere on Leela's body someone is going to stuck a penis in there.
Juliet

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« Reply #621 on: 05-27-2010 12:53 »

the pic of Hedonism bot is funny who knows what he is going to be up to. I am looking forward to the episode Proposition Infinity. I read a bit about it.


The Zoidberg and Farneworth scene is going to be gross
Gorky

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« Reply #622 on: 05-27-2010 14:14 »

Third person here who thought Hedonism Bot was dressed as a cop at first. For as meh as I find (what we know of) the premise for the Proposition Infinity episode, that outfit is hilariously disturbing.
i_c_weiner

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« Reply #623 on: 05-27-2010 14:21 »

I think it is a cop hat though. You know, for role playing.
Gorky

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« Reply #624 on: 05-27-2010 14:49 »

Yeah, the hat is definitely of the law-enforcing variety--but those straps are more for love-enforcing purposes.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #625 on: 05-27-2010 17:21 »

Third person here who thought Hedonism Bot was dressed as a cop at first. For as meh as I find (what we know of) the premise for the Proposition Infinity episode, that outfit is hilariously disturbing.

I think it sounds less than promising too, but DXC said (in that recent interview) that it's his personal favorite of the year (assumingly he means of the first 12). That gives it a little more faith from me. I bet it's the most straight-up comedy of the season and that's how it became DXC's favorite.
Tedward

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« Reply #626 on: 05-27-2010 18:09 »

It was a mutant doctor. I don't think Port-a-Johns Hopkins Medical is all it's cracked up to be.

Perhaps not, but like FoA was saying, "Leela's Homeworld" pretty much established Leela's "least-mutated mutant" condition as far as I'm concerned. Yes, that doesn't necessarily mean her eye has to be her only odd feature (and the doctor appeared to only give the baby a quick visual examination anyway), but I'd find it hard to accept that the Craig Ferguson growth was part of her the whole time (unless, I suppose, it's explained reeeealllly well). Adding too many "new" mutant features to Leela could jeopardize some of the emotional power of that part of "Leela's Homeworld" in a similar way to how BBS potentially lessened the emotional power of "Jurassic Bark" or "The Luck of the Fryrish" with its alternate Fry (if you see it that way). Of course, we don't know at this point if the growth has to do with a mutation or not, so again there may not be much need to worry.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #627 on: 05-27-2010 18:27 »
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Craig Ferguson has the most remarkable guest role of the year: He is playing a talking part of Leela’s body. We discover that Leela has a little more to her being a mutant than we knew about.

I don't think DXC is trying to mislead us with that line. That's about as much of confirmation of a new mutation as we're going to get until the episode premiers. That said, I'm positive Ferguson comes about because of something on the planet. They can't keep him around for more episodes and the storyboards we saw so far haven't involved him. He is going to be a one-time thing.

Also, I'm totally changing my vote on him being part of her foot. I think he'll voice her stomach. ME WANT FOOD!

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« Reply #628 on: 05-27-2010 22:40 »

http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/2010/05/27/countdown-to-futurama-the-duh-vinci-code-storyboards/#more-18045
Freako

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« Reply #629 on: 05-28-2010 01:07 »

They fucked up the order and didn't post every page so here they are:

http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/files/2010/05/605-Storyboard_A.jpg
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/files/2010/05/605-Storyboard_B.jpg
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/files/2010/05/605-Storyboard_C.jpg
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/files/2010/05/605-Storyboard_D.jpg
http://ccinsider.comedycentral.com/files/2010/05/605-Storyboard_E.jpg

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« Reply #630 on: 05-28-2010 01:24 »

That's fun reading it slowly.
draw the eye.......... right to............... his dong.
Tedward

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« Reply #631 on: 05-28-2010 01:48 »

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Craig Ferguson has the most remarkable guest role of the year: He is playing a talking part of Leela’s body. We discover that Leela has a little more to her being a mutant than we knew about.

I don't think DXC is trying to mislead us with that line. That's about as much of confirmation of a new mutation as we're going to get until the episode premiers.

Ah, good point. I had already mixed up whether DXC was referring to Craig Ferguson or the other mutant-related story (612, is it?) with his comment. I agree that it looks like it'll be a one-time thing, though; hopefully continuity won't be too shattered.

That's fun reading it slowly.

Yes, I was just thinking that! I like the note for the Professor's head tilt too.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #632 on: 05-28-2010 01:55 »

Please, please let it be that that's two guys layered to get the effect of the "Vitruvian Man". I'm already snickering at the thought of Fry asking them what they feel of the job.
Juliet

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« Reply #633 on: 05-28-2010 11:43 »

heheh "Vitruvian Man" look fun
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« Reply #634 on: 05-28-2010 17:48 »



So what's happening here?
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« Reply #635 on: 05-28-2010 18:05 »

On first glance I would say it's some form of storm chasing... future style, but maybe I've just seen the movie tornado too many times.
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« Reply #636 on: 05-28-2010 19:56 »

The image is from the episode 'Proposition Infinity'
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« Reply #637 on: 05-28-2010 23:19 »

Svip posted the following in the News/No Spoilers thread:

So I like found this.

Apparently, MSN seems to know what's up.  But given how they don't even mention "Rebirth" among other things, I am going with a bit of suspicion whether this source is reliable.  It could turn out to be right (where it is certainly not wrong), but I'd prefer a second opinion, if you will.

As stated in that thread, this is no hard confirmation of anything. However, I would say to semi-trust MSN. If we do, the site reports/confirms some new episode titles and plot lines:


6ACV03: Attack of the Killer App
Fry posts an embarrassing video of Leela online.
^Just as we had known.

6ACV04: Proposition Infinity
Bender leads a campaign to legalize robosexual marriage between humans and robots.
^Just as we thought.

6ACV05: The Duh-Vinci Code
The crew races to future Rome to unearth the shocking secret of Leonardo da Vinci.
^Now we finally understand where this title is coming from.

6ACV06: Lethal Inspection
Bender learns that he suffers from a mortal manufacturing defect.
^Completely new information (as far as I remember). Sounds interesting.

6ACV07: The Late Philip J. Fry
The Professor invents a one-way time machine.
^And, once again, just as we thought.


On 6ACV07, I'm still saying that the episode is the same as the one where Fry's late for his date. Weren't we told before that the episode would be Fry being late for a date and the Professor sending him a minute ahead in time, which turned out to be 1000 years?
Frisco17

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« Reply #638 on: 05-28-2010 23:27 »

6ACV06: Lethal Inspection
Bender learns that he suffers from a mortal manufacturing defect.
^Completely new information (as far as I remember). Sounds interesting.

Sounds like they're finally using the plot about Bender's metal decaying that DXC was talking about after BBS.
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« Reply #639 on: 05-29-2010 00:17 »

"On again off again" as it says in the article doesn't necessarily mean they're going back to the constant "Will you go out with?" me thing again. If I had to guess I would say it probably means more of an rocky relationship thing than another reset. Fry does lots of stupid things that piss Leela off after all. I'm guessing Fry posting embarrassing pictures of her on the internet goes under that category.

I still think DXC meant what he said and they will press the reset button.
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