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[Reply #600 on:]

FistFulloAwesome, how come you uploaded that sizzle reel as an unlisted video? Other people from other countries that aren't on peelified will want to see it surely?

Well then sucks to be them doesn't it.

[Reply #601 on:]

Ugh, I only did that to test my YouTube account![/Lrrr]

If they ever put up some other Comic-Con style clip where it previews a bunch of episodes rather than just one, I'll probably upload it (if no one else does). Otherwise, it was a one-time thing.

Nah, fair-dos. To be fair though, willsterdude, I doubt that anyone outside the US who isn't on PEEL yet probably won't be aware there even was a sizzle reel.

[Reply #602 on:]

I have my doubts we are seeing them out of order.  I think you are reading too much into that line.  Maybe see my statement again!

TLPJF left off with Fry and Leela standing on a bridge in Universe 3.  The clip from "That Darn Katz" is obviously from Universe 4, before Fry got crushed from above by the Fry from Universe 2.  Yeah, that's the ticket.

... what?

Sarcasm obv.

The combination of the wistful "I wish I had a man" and desperate "You can't break up with me!  You're my pet!" lines lead me to believe that Leela's just drunk and confused.  That plus the whole multiple-writers-submitting-scripts-simultaneously deal.

[Reply #603 on:]

Quit reading to much into their relationship. It's been pretty straight throughout the seasons (with Rebirth and tLPJF sticking out) and it will continue to be. As speedracer says, she's just drunk and horny.

[Reply #604 on:]

Somehow I think Fry and Leela would maintain a more "OPEN" relationship if you get my drift...

Fry would NEVER turn down a chance to get some from anywhere and Leela can be easily buttered up by anyone if they make her feel good about herself...

[Reply #605 on:]

Is that ok if it makes them both happy?

[Reply #606 on:]

I agree that reading too much into Fry and Leela's relationship is futile. I mean, her saying she has no man could really just mean that the man she does have is dancing with Bender and not her. In the context of the rest of "That Darn Katz", Leela's line is pretty innocuous; the point is that Leela likes having a cute pet who will accept her unconditional love (and, y'know, not use it to take advantage of her and try to stop the earth from spinning), in lieu of a person like Fry.

[Reply #607 on:]

Obviously... but what sort of response did the author of that line figure they'd elicit?  Maybe they were unaware of people who were tired of the 'ship going back and forth... or that such a statement would hold any weight for such people.

But it does hold weight and mean something for some people... or else we wouldn't be talking about it.

[Reply #608 on:]

I have no idea what the thinking was. I am not going to join the doomsayers crying "reset".

It's obvious that the creative staff does have an end goal of following through with the ship - they're not Joe Quesada resetting Peter Parker's marriage to Mary Jane and throwing two decades of character development out the window (Google "Spider-Man One More Day" if you don't get the reference). However, perhaps they do think that non-shippers and casual watchers will be turned off if they play it up too much. Moonlighting is often used as an example (TV Tropes talks about this stuff in more detail than I ever could.)

I, for one, would not lose interest if Fry and Leela were a couple (since Fry and Leela's characters would most certainly allow for tensions even if they were in a stable relationship), but there are fans and casual viewers of the series (like the IGN reviewer who gave TLPJF a 7.5 and considers AWITM to be the best episode) who'd prefer it if the show were completely for laughs, and consider the shippy and emotional stuff to be "sappy"/etc.

I know we'd all prefer it if the ship, and these new episodes in general, were specifically written to please the diehard fans like us, but we aren't footing the bill for the series - Fox and Comedy Central are. We "nerdlingers" may feel a sense of entitlement because of our role in bringing the show back, but we alone can't keep the show alive. Like it or not, they are probably taking the general audience into consideration.

I'm not trying to be an apologist. If they are indeed downplaying the ship in non-ship-focused episodes to avoid a possibility of alienating the non-shippers, casual viewers, etc., I think they're mistaken in their judgment. But I'm just postulating on why they might be doing it, and I don't think it's because they don't want Fry and Leela to end up together.

Even if they vacillate on the ship in coming episodes, DXC did say that the second-to-last show will really focus on them. And since each "finale" has seemed to have come progressively closer to resolving the ship, and 6ACV25 has to serve as a "de facto series finale" in case CC doesn't order any more episodes, it must necessarily take the ship to a point beyond TDHAIP, beyond ITWGY, and beyond TLPJF. And if CC does end up renewing the series, and 6ACV25 takes the ship far enough, the creative team may well be forced to bite the bullet and make them a permanent, official couple in 7ACV and beyond.

So if all else fails, just think "6ACV25, 6ACV25, 6ACV25..."

[Reply #609 on:]

When did the news thread become (yet another) shipper thread? 

[Reply #610 on:]

after pretty much every other thread did.

i posted it in the rating thread, but last nigthts episode got 1.95 million viewers. staying pretty steady at around two million viewers for two months is great. i hope we hear about a new season order soon

[Reply #611 on:]

Well, I reposted my last post in the actual ship thread, because I realized that the topic really doesn't belong in the news thread. I guess some of us got a little carried away.

I implore anybody else who wants to discuss shipping to discuss it in the actual shipping thread from here on out.

Glad to see that the ratings are staying at 2 mil a week. (Did it ever get that many viewers on Fox?)

[Reply #612 on:]

Well, I reposted my last post in the actual ship thread, because I realized that the topic really doesn't belong in the news thread. I guess some of us got a little carried away.

I implore anybody else who wants to discuss shipping to discuss it in the actual shipping thread from here on out.

Glad to see that the ratings are staying at 2 mil a week. (Did it ever get that many viewers on Fox?)

Nineteen million for the series premiere, ~6 million during its final season on FOX (though times are obviously different now).  (Source:  Wikipedia)

[Reply #613 on:]

I have no idea what the thinking was. I am not going to join the doomsayers crying "reset".

It's obvious that the creative staff does have an end goal of following through with the ship - they're not Joe Quesada resetting Peter Parker's marriage to Mary Jane and throwing two decades of character development out the window (Google "Spider-Man One More Day" if you don't get the reference). However, perhaps they do think that non-shippers and casual watchers will be turned off if they play it up too much. Moonlighting is often used as an example (TV Tropes talks about this stuff in more detail than I ever could.)

I, for one, would not lose interest if Fry and Leela were a couple (since Fry and Leela's characters would most certainly allow for tensions even if they were in a stable relationship), but there are fans and casual viewers of the series (like the IGN reviewer who gave TLPJF a 7.5 and considers AWITM to be the best episode) who'd prefer it if the show were completely for laughs, and consider the shippy and emotional stuff to be "sappy"/etc.

I know we'd all prefer it if the ship, and these new episodes in general, were specifically written to please the diehard fans like us, but we aren't footing the bill for the series - Fox and Comedy Central are. We "nerdlingers" may feel a sense of entitlement because of our role in bringing the show back, but we alone can't keep the show alive. Like it or not, they are probably taking the general audience into consideration.

I'm not trying to be an apologist. If they are indeed downplaying the ship in non-ship-focused episodes to avoid a possibility of alienating the non-shippers, casual viewers, etc., I think they're mistaken in their judgment. But I'm just postulating on why they might be doing it, and I don't think it's because they don't want Fry and Leela to end up together.

Even if they vacillate on the ship in coming episodes, DXC did say that the second-to-last show will really focus on them. And since each "finale" has seemed to have come progressively closer to resolving the ship, and 6ACV25 has to serve as a "de facto series finale" in case CC doesn't order any more episodes, it must necessarily take the ship to a point beyond TDHAIP, beyond ITWGY, and beyond TLPJF. And if CC does end up renewing the series, and 6ACV25 takes the ship far enough, the creative team may well be forced to bite the bullet and make them a permanent, official couple in 7ACV and beyond.

So if all else fails, just think "6ACV25, 6ACV25, 6ACV25..."

I don't really need the ship to be resolved... they already kind of did that... several times...

I also don't think it would alienate the viewers who aren't into that sort of thing if they just leave it at Fry & Leela are together.  I also understand the concepts of sexual tension propelling a series further, but I don't think that Futurama applies... especially with this relationship.  They've already shown that they're together multiple times; I don't need tear jerking "aww they're a couple" all the time... What I want is for there to not be innocuous comments like "I don't have a man" a week after Fry celebrates Leela's birthday on a date.

[Reply #614 on:]

comedy central has posted a new video clip of tomorrow's episode.

[Reply #615 on:]

This episode looks promising (if not really timely - but keep in mind, Futurama was still cancelled when the topic was actually...topical). My comments on the clip:

-The Prof calling Cubert "crapscallion" amused me for some reason - and is it just me, or is Cubert less infuriatingly annoying than he was in the original run? Is it only because he's been relegated to such small roles?
-I'd have cut out Leela's response when Farnsworth says "science-mobile" the second time, but maybe that's just me.
-Wozniak Nerd Academy = also amusing
-Flying Spaghetti Monster FTW!

[Reply #616 on:]

The episode seems promising, but as TServo says Leela's second remark was really unnecessary.

[Reply #617 on:]

... I lol'd at Leela's second remark.

Yer just unfunny. (lol j/k)

[Reply #618 on:]

It's not really that bad on second viewing. I just felt like it hurt the comedic timing a bit.

Also, I like Dr. Banjo.

[Reply #619 on:]

It just felt done to me. Not destroying the scene but close to it. And I'm not the one to nitpick generally.

[Reply #620 on:]

I like the Proff's response to the flying spaghetti monster.
"YES!" hee hee

[Reply #621 on:]

Burn on you nitpickers! That whole Science Mobile exchange was gold!

Anyway, yeah, I'm actually more excited to see this episode after watching that clip.

[Reply #622 on:]

The whole evolution debate (and the debate about teaching it in schools) is a pretty constant one.  It's come up in recent elections for instance, with certain....let's just say candidates in a political party starting with "R" apparently being comfortable saying that they don't believe in it.  So I don't get the complaining about it not being that relevant; if nothing else, it will be headline news again again shortly, trust me.

Anyway, the clip is good.  Flying Spaghetti Monster = for the win.

[Reply #623 on:]

OMFG Flying Spaghetti Monster!!!

[Reply #624 on:]

can someone post it on youtube please ? for all non-usa habitant

[Reply #625 on:]

am I the only person not in the USA who has no problem watching those videos?

[Reply #626 on:]

As far as I know, it's just us Brits and Canadians that can't watch the videos, so no.

[Reply #627 on:]

aah, then just use some random proxy

[Reply #628 on:]

Believe me, I've tried.

But I don't really care about this particular clip. I'll be able to watch it in full in a matter of hours and I've got 8 sexy newish episodes to tide me over until then.

[Reply #629 on:]

The whole evolution debate (and the debate about teaching it in schools) is a pretty constant one.  It's come up in recent elections for instance, with certain....let's just say candidates in a political party starting with "R" apparently being comfortable saying that they don't believe in it.  So I don't get the complaining about it not being that relevant; if nothing else, it will be headline news again again shortly, trust me.

Anyway, the clip is good.  Flying Spaghetti Monster = for the win.

In all honesty, I think that sort of debate shouldn't be relevant... especially in the political arena.  I'll concede to your point though... it's a timeless topic that won't ever die without a certain answer; ie, "where did we come from?"  And I don't think it'll ever have an answer, because I think it's a question we can never definitively develop an answer for.

[Reply #630 on:]

Agree with above response....

but the Flying Spaghetti Monster... brilliant!

[Reply #631 on:]

I think it's very likely that Comedy Central will order a new season of episodes, because with the ratings Futurama's getting on Comedy Central are brilliant, so why would you not want to order more episodes?

[Reply #632 on:]

I think it's very likely that Comedy Central will order a new season of episodes, because with the ratings Futurama's getting on Comedy Central are brilliant, so why would you not want to order more episodes?

we all hope so, but i hope they wont have a moral in each episode then....

[Reply #633 on:]

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere (I don't think it has).  Former Futurama producer Alex Johns has passed away.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/comic-riffs/2010/08/tribute_remembering_futurama_a.html

[Reply #634 on:]

I think it's very likely that Comedy Central will order a new season of episodes, because with the ratings Futurama's getting on Comedy Central are brilliant, so why would you not want to order more episodes?

we all hope so, but i hope they wont have a moral in each episode then....

Cause they never did that before, and they constantly do that now.

[Reply #635 on:]

Apologies if this has been covered elsewhere (I don't think it has).  Former Futurama producer Alex Johns has passed away.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/comic-riffs/2010/08/tribute_remembering_futurama_a.html

yeah RIP

I think it's very likely that Comedy Central will order a new season of episodes, because with the ratings Futurama's getting on Comedy Central are brilliant, so why would you not want to order more episodes?

we all hope so, but i hope they wont have a moral in each episode then....

Cause they never did that before, and they constantly do that now.

Its almost getting anoying... just hope that the second part of this season wont be like that. I'm not saying that those eps are bad but not as good as it was...

[Reply #636 on:]

Yes, how annoying that three out of 9 episodes so far have had some form of moral. Or moral-like device...

[Reply #637 on:]

Wheel of Morality, turn, turn, turn...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv6IWX1_XHQ

[Reply #638 on:]

The wheel of morality was always my favorite part of that show. 

[Reply #639 on:]

Cause they never did that before, and they constantly do that now.

Its almost getting anoying... just hope that the second part of this season wont be like that. I'm not saying that those eps are bad but not as good as it was...

I pardon my lack of smileys, but that was sarcasm. They use it about the same amount as before, which is more or less every third episode.