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Otis P Jivefunk
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« Reply #641 on: 07-07-2011 18:24 »
« Last Edit on: 07-07-2011 20:18 »
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I understand why this thread was renamed as there were a lot of discussions about other episodes other than the one specific episode this thread was originally about, but it took me a little while to work out what thread I was looking at because we now have two worst episode ever threads of which both are recently active. Not to criticise the hard work and sorting out that has been done, but I still think the title of this thread needs more distinguishing from This thread... edit - I see it's been merged now...
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Gorky
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I just watched "That Darn Katz!" and was impressed by it. It's not a hilarious episode (though it has its moments; "Blue Blue Shiny Ball" (actually, most of Morris's dialogue) made me giggle), but I think "solid" is a good word, cyber_turnip. It's a respectable effort, and it was nice to see Amy's character fleshed out a bit (beyond "ditzy college girl who is still somehow a PhD candidate?"); I also appreciated the writers acknowledging the awkwardness of how the crew knows Nibbler is an intelligent being, but still treats him like a cute wittle animal. Oh, and I'm not a huge cat person, so watching Nibbler and Amy's disgust with the creatures was a bit cathartic.
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Aki
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I've never understood the hate for "That Darn Katz!" either, it's a gold standard Futurama episode for me. Just... in the middle. It stands many viewings and it's not forgettable, it has a sci-fi core and it has a bunch of good jokes.
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futurefreak
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I feel like they tailored That Darn Katz! to my liking. It seems like the kind of storyline I would have made up, especially the singing cats, hehehe...
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futurefreak
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A Taste of Freedom is in my bottom 5. It just wasn't that funny IMO. Neither was That's Lobstertainment! Zoidberg just fell off his mark in those two episodes. However, in Why Must I Be A Crustacean in Love, he was spot on. Why? Probably because his storyline was being carried by Fry as well. Also, its reference to my favorite TOS Star Trek episode helped to But even before I watched Trek, I really enjoyed that episode. Dirty humor helps too, hehehe.
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Aki
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No matter how you dislike it, leiapadme77, please write the name correctly at least (Godfellas, not GodFellas). Starting to get annoying.
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Aki
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I managed to avoid saying it a few times before I cracked. Sorry. GoodFellas having that title is no excuse though, the episode is an entirely different thing.
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futurefreak
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Something else I would like to address: Let's stop jumping down each other's throats for misspellings or typos. A few here and there are permissible, even I do it from time to time. However, this does not mean that anyone should be posting sentences that appear composed by a 10 year old. Keep it readable, do your best, and we'll all be better for it. Love, futurefreak Re: the topic Godfellas was in my bottom half, along with Bendin' in the Wind. It wasn't...unwatchable...just kinda boring to me.
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dwurt
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That Darn Katz! was one of the worst, along with the one with Fry's old girlfriend and IAGDL (is that right?). Katz seemed too childish for futurama, the old girlfriend one was just too dull for me to even remember the name, and IAGDL was a bit too centered on Leela's nudity.
That said, I'll still watch these if they come on. Every single other episode I will happily watch of my own volition.
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Xanfor
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Space Pilot 3000 was pretty awful. The series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future. At least they threw in a retcon to explain why this occurred several seasons later.
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spira
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Space Pilot 3000 was pretty awful. The series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future. At least they threw in a retcon to explain why this occurred several seasons later. You, sir, deserve applause for this gem of a post. dwurt, I like how you can't remember the name of "the old girlfriend one". This response to Cryonic Woman, compared to the ones a few pages back, thoroughly amuses me.
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SorynArkayn
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« Reply #667 on: 07-11-2011 06:17 »
« Last Edit on: 07-11-2011 06:18 »
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Space Pilot 3000 was pretty awful. The series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future. At least they threw in a retcon to explain why this occurred several seasons later.
How can you call that the pilot episode of Futurama "awful"? It's certainly not one of Futurama's best episodes -- but "awful"? I thought "Space Pilot 3000" did a superb job setting up the Futurama universe and introducing the three main characters; and even hid secrets that were revealed much later in the series, which instilled greater meaning to Fry getting frozen and waking up in the year 3000. You can't blame the Pilot for breaks in the show's continuity -- you can only justifiably blame the episodes wherein those breaks occurred, such as "The Sting" contradicting the Pilot by claiming that Giant Space Bees killed the previous PlanEx crew, instead of Space Wasps. And what do you mean that "the series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future"? How can the show jump the shark in the very first episode by sending Fry into the future? That makes no sense. Do you even know what jumping the shark means?
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i_c_weiner
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« Reply #670 on: 07-11-2011 07:12 »
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Space Pilot 3000 was pretty awful. The series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future. At least they threw in a retcon to explain why this occurred several seasons later.
Personally, I felt the series went downhill starting with The Series Has Landed. Introducing Amy as an intern and then letting her fly on the ship in the same episode when everybody on the real crew actually had purposes of being on the mission just ruined the show for me. I can't stand it anymore. Only Leela, Fry, and Bender should be making deliveries. Landed? From what? Jumping the shark perhaps...
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Aki
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Space Pilot 3000 was pretty awful. The series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future. At least they threw in a retcon to explain why this occurred several seasons later.
How can you call that the pilot episode of Futurama "awful"?
It's certainly not one of Futurama's best episodes -- but "awful"?
I thought "Space Pilot 3000" did a superb job setting up the Futurama universe and introducing the three main characters; and even hid secrets that were revealed much later in the series, which instilled greater meaning to Fry getting frozen and waking up in the year 3000.
You can't blame the Pilot for breaks in the show's continuity -- you can only justifiably blame the episodes wherein those breaks occurred, such as "The Sting" contradicting the Pilot by claiming that Giant Space Bees killed the previous PlanEx crew, instead of Space Wasps.
And what do you mean that "the series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future"? How can the show jump the shark in the very first episode by sending Fry into the future? That makes no sense. Do you even know what jumping the shark means?
Oh, lord.
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SorynArkayn
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I refer you to wikipedia's article on irony.
You obviously need to read up on irony and what is truly "ironic". Me asking how anyone else can call a particular episode "awful" is not ironic. That you think so not only demonstrates that you do not understand irony, but you're also utterly ignorant about what I've been discussing on this forum in the last two weeks or so. I've never written that we can't or shouldn't voice our disagreements of opinions. And I honestly wasn't trying to stir anything up here. I was simply expressing exasperation about and asking why Xanfor considers the Pilot "awful"? Because Xanfor's supposed explanation: "The series jumped the shark by discarding all former continuity and sending Fry a thousand years into the future," made no sense whatsoever. Doesn't anyone understand what he wrote in that sentence? How can Xanfor claim that the series "jumped the shark" in the first episode? How can he claim that the series "discarded all former continuity" in the first episode? And what did he even mean by "sending Fry a thousand years into the future"? That's the setup for the entire series? What comment or criticism is he even making about that? He's either an awful writer and utterly failed to communicate his supposed explanation for his opinion, or his opinion just doesn't make any sense in the first place.
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Tedward
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Sorry to ruin the fun everyone else may have with responding, but... Doesn't anyone understand what he wrote in that sentence?
Soryn, I think people understand it as a joke. Why he made the joke in the first place I don't know, but he did. The irony was in your treating it as, well, not a joke, hence people's scoffs at your reply. I'm sorry for your frustration. However, if you were simply playing along and are continuing to do so by treating it seriously, then well done, I guess.
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SorynArkayn
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Soryn, I think people understand it as a joke. Why he made the joke in the first place I don't know, but he did. The irony was in your treating it as, well, not a joke, hence people's scoffs at your reply. I'm sorry for your frustration. However, if you were simply playing along and are continuing to do so by treating it seriously, then well done, I guess.
Even if Xanfor was trying to make a "joke", it was still incomprehensible. It certainly didn't read as a joke. Regardless, I suppose I gave it more credibility than it deserved. I probably should've simply wrote "WTF!?" or imbedded a juvenile lil' screenshot-caption and left it at that.
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