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EvilChicken

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« Reply #600 on: 06-22-2011 10:06 »

I'll probably watch it for a second time and really like it, you never know
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« Reply #601 on: 06-22-2011 17:16 »

I'll probably watch it for a second time and really like it, you never know

Give it a shot, I enjoy 'That's Lobstertainment!' a little more everytime I watch it. big grin
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #602 on: 06-22-2011 19:33 »

Give it a shot, I enjoy 'That's Lobstertainment!' a little more everytime I watch it. big grin

I enjoy it more now after having seen some of the Season 6 episodes. I mean the thought of it, seems better in my head. I haven't actually watched it that recently though...
Jezzem

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« Reply #603 on: 06-23-2011 08:07 »

Season 3 is full of episodes that are more enjoyable on the second/third/fourth/millionth viewing.
Gorky

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« Reply #604 on: 06-23-2011 14:21 »

...Except "Where the Buggalo Roam.

And I used to really be meh on "Futurestock," too, but now it's one of my favorites. I think what happens is that I'll psyche myself out just thinking of the the episode's premise (like, "What could possibly be entertaining about some Wall Street guy and a climactic scene at the stock exchange?")...but then, once I actually watch the episode, I realize that it actually has a really good body some really great moments. This also happened to me with "The Birdbot of Ice-Catraz," and maybe even "The Route of All Evil" (though the latter is probably only saved by its brilliant subplot).
Tedward

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« Reply #605 on: 06-24-2011 00:41 »

...Except "Where the Buggalo Roam.

That is entirely not true, sir! tongue
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« Reply #606 on: 06-24-2011 00:44 »

What is it with people calling you a guy, Gorky?


And Where the Buggalo Roam gets worse with time.
Gorky

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« Reply #607 on: 06-24-2011 00:52 »

Eh, Tedward did it in the service of a Futurama quote, so I'll let it slide. wink

And I don't mean to endlessly rag on "Where the Buggalo Roam"--because, in all honesty, I haven't seen it in years--but it is, at the very least, the most underwhelming episode of the series. Being underwhelming is not necessarily the same as being outright bad, but it's certainly not a positive attribute.
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« Reply #608 on: 06-24-2011 11:09 »

Season 3 is full of episodes that are more enjoyable on the second/third/fourth/millionth viewing.
Give it a shot, I enjoy 'That's Lobstertainment!' a little more everytime I watch it. big grin
And Where the Buggalo Roam gets worse with time.
I second all those.  A Kif-centric episode just misses with me.  There are only a couple episodes I barely ever watch, Buggalo is one, Fishful of Dollars is another.

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« Reply #609 on: 06-25-2011 06:32 »

Neutopia is by far the worst episode for me now. Miles ahead of any other contender. Good news That's Lobstertainment, you're back in the saddle!
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« Reply #610 on: 06-25-2011 11:24 »

Neutopia is by far the worst episode for me now. Miles ahead of any other contender. Good news That's Lobstertainment, you're back in the saddle!

Wow, I enjoyed Neutopia... hmpf
Otis P Jivefunk

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« Reply #611 on: 06-25-2011 15:16 »

Neutopia is better than That's Lobstertainment, and Where The Buggalo Roam is better than That's Lobstertainment. These are my opinions, but since they're coming from me you know they must be right tongue...
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« Reply #612 on: 06-25-2011 15:58 »

Neutopia is better than That's Lobstertainment, and Where The Buggalo Roam is better than That's Lobstertainment. These are my opinions, but since they're coming from me you know they must be right tongue...

And since I 100% agree it must be twice as right. tongue
Aki

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« Reply #613 on: 06-25-2011 18:22 »

Neutopia is way beyond most episodes often called worst episode. Neutopia is just under the curve of the standard Futurama episode.
HezaDelSol

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« Reply #614 on: 06-27-2011 05:02 »

For me it's probably I Dated A Robot. The premise is good but I'm just not into Lucy Liu, and that episode seems to be played a lot.
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« Reply #615 on: 06-27-2011 05:22 »

Neutopia is way beyond most episodes often called worst episode. Neutopia is just under the curve of the standard Futurama episode.

Disagree. I'd say it's just over the average bar. Futurama's got so many good ones though, both from way back and from more recently. ITWGY was the most recent thing before Rebirth, and it's definitely one of my favourites. Rebirth, come to think of it, is another good 'un.

That said, most of Season 1 are still some of the best episodes. In particular, My Three Suns and SP3K stand out for me as some of the earliest, and some of the greatest offerings. Season 3 seems to me to be a low point. It's got a few horrible episodes, but then again there are crap ones in each season, and even the four movies aren't all fantastic. I mean, I'm neutral on BBS and BWABB... but I don't really like BG that much. I'd watch it rather than Cryonic Woman or Lobstertainment or Buggalo or BITW, but it's down near the bottom of the list for me.

Of course, my appreciation for many of the episodes and the movies does tend to oscillate. This time next week, I might be saying that BG and Buggalo are preferable to IDaR, or that BITW is critically underrated (although I doubt it). But there are enough episodes that I feel a constant appreciation for that I think I can put Neutopia just above the bar for "average" and be confident I'll feel that way pretty much all the time. It's one of those that has the right overall feel to it - something that Lobstertainment and Cryonic Woman really lacked.

Can you tell I really, really, really dislike those episodes? Gotta admit, both have a couple of lines each I really enjoyed, but as stories within a universe I love, they suck diseased llama cock. They really do.
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« Reply #616 on: 06-27-2011 05:25 »

I've asked myself this before, but I'll ask everybody as well:

Is it possible that maybe you list an episode among the worst just because you've seen others saying it's one of the worst? I mean, I genuinely do feel like The Cryonic Woman is amongst the worst in the series, but, then again, I haven't watched it in possibly two years.
totalnerd undercanada

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« Reply #617 on: 06-27-2011 05:49 »

I've watched it within the last seven months. I've watched them all since last September. Well, all of the original run. Even my least favourites. It helped me recall why I liked the show, why I liked sci-fi TV, and why I came here, to PEEL. It reminded me that yeah, being a huge nerd is worth it.

I didn't plan it out or anything. I just watched a disc every so often.

Then in May, me and Archie watched TPWP before heading off to AGI Whitby, and it reminded me that I hadn't seen Futurama for a while. So I watched all the ones I'd not been through on my previous spree - which wasn't many. But it did include Cryonic Woman. That episode reminded me how much I hate Pauly Shore, and Michelle. It also reminded me how much I hate the ending, and the potential issues it raises with continuity. Even for the sake of a joke, I dislike lapses in continuity.

Recently, I've been rewatching Production Seasons five and six, but I'm thinking I might stick on a few from Seasons Two and Four.
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« Reply #618 on: 06-27-2011 10:57 »

Yeah, the Cryonic Woman isn't the best, but you gotta enjoy the opening scene with the PE Ship pulling along the PE Building, and the fact that they use the Cryotubes to take naps and as fridges. Plus Bender scaring that old guy. laff
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« Reply #619 on: 06-27-2011 12:03 »

I donīt like Obsoletely Fabulous. Of course, the beginning with Robot 1-X and the surprising end is good, but in the middle only Bender, Bender, Bender..oh, and then a wooden Bender!! What the hell? The series is called Futurama and not Benderama!!...oh...wait...there is a new episode called Benderama?? With thousands of Benders?! Duplicating repeatedly?...I think the writers should focus on other characters (this prof. meets zoidberg-past episode sounds promising), even if Bender ist the most-loved, but Futurama lives by more than only Bender! Thatīs why I donīt like the above episode!
DannyJC13

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« Reply #620 on: 06-27-2011 12:12 »

I donīt like Obsoletely Fabulous. Of course, the beginning with Robot 1-X and the surprising end is good, but in the middle only Bender, Bender, Bender..oh, and then a wooden Bender!! What the hell? The series is called Futurama and not Benderama!!...oh...wait...there is a new episode called Benderama?? With thousands of Benders?! Duplicating repeatedly?...I think the writers should focus on other characters (this prof. meets zoidberg-past episode sounds promising), even if Bender ist the most-loved, but Futurama lives by more than only Bender! Thatīs why I donīt like the above episode!

What?! Bender rarely gets an entire ep focused on him...
Aki

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« Reply #621 on: 06-27-2011 12:20 »

Neutopia is way beyond most episodes often called worst episode. Neutopia is just under the curve of the standard Futurama episode.

Disagree. I'd say it's just over the average bar. Futurama's got so many good ones though, both from way back and from more recently. ITWGY was the most recent thing before Rebirth, and it's definitely one of my favourites. Rebirth, come to think of it, is another good 'un.

After watching Neutopia through several times, I've grown to appreciate it a lot more, but it's still just around the average bar, don't know which side. Pretty much a solid Futurama episode. I still think you exaggerate your love for it, though, but hell, what is life if not for diversity? smile

I donīt like Obsoletely Fabulous. Of course, the beginning with Robot 1-X and the surprising end is good, but in the middle only Bender, Bender, Bender..oh, and then a wooden Bender!! What the hell? The series is called Futurama and not Benderama!!...oh...wait...there is a new episode called Benderama?? With thousands of Benders?! Duplicating repeatedly?...I think the writers should focus on other characters (this prof. meets zoidberg-past episode sounds promising), even if Bender ist the most-loved, but Futurama lives by more than only Bender! Thatīs why I donīt like the above episode!

I do agree that there are a little too much focus in Bender in many episodes, but then again it's obvious he is the most popular character (especially with casual fans who still find his quite simplistic character charming). I do not, however, dislike Benderama or Obsoletely Fabulous like you do. And Godfella, probably the episode with the most Bender (I might be missing something), is one of my all time favourites.

Is it possible that maybe you list an episode among the worst just because you've seen others saying it's one of the worst? I mean, I genuinely do feel like The Cryonic Woman is amongst the worst in the series, but, then again, I haven't watched it in possibly two years.

I rewatch the entire series every few months or so. Last time finished two weeks ago (that often excludes the movies, though). There are no episodes I skip or anything like that, but there are obviously a few I feel less for, The Cryonic Woman included. I'm sure there are some people on here who got dragged along (unknowingly, obviously), but I have the feeling that I dislike the episodes worth disliking.
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« Reply #622 on: 06-27-2011 15:48 »

After watching Neutopia through several times, I've grown to appreciate it a lot more, but it's still just around the average bar, don't know which side. Pretty much a solid Futurama episode. I still think you exaggerate your love for it, though, but hell, what is life if not for diversity? smile

Re: Diversity.

I'm not exaggerting anything. Check out the last point on the diagram in the linked post. It's Neutopia. The average bar running the length of the graph is the mean average. However, it's an average of the rating on CGEF, not an average of the typical "hump" an episode has to get past to please fans. That hump seems to be around 72-73%, which would chop off most of the troughs from universally panned episodes but still leave in the "good but not great" ones. You'll notice that Neutopia sits just over the hump, with the rest of the "solid" and "good but not great" episodes.
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« Reply #623 on: 07-06-2011 21:00 »

I think I need to watch That's Lobstertainment again and see where it ranks now. It's a little difficult to work up the enthusiasm though, but sometime. I'm almost certain it would still be at the bottom of the original 72 in my opinion, but now more new eps have aired since I last visited this thread it would be interesting to compare...

I am however quite certain it is better than Bender's Game as I said before, and also I believe it's better than Holiday Craptacular which aired since I last visited this thread...
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« Reply #624 on: 07-06-2011 21:06 »

I enjoyed Fry and Leela's B-Plot in this ep for some reason... big grin
spira

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« Reply #625 on: 07-07-2011 06:50 »

I just rewatched Lobstertainment because of all the complaints and I have to say, it's better than I remembered. It's not great by any means, but I could compile a decently sized list of quotes that amused me. Most of them would be Bender's. Come to think of it, I liked Bender in this episode a lot. I like the Fry/Leela B-plot too. The episode has its merits. It remains quite low on my ranking but I rescind my opinion half an hour ago that it completely sucks.
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« Reply #626 on: 07-07-2011 07:10 »

Well I'll bring out that tired old adage..."A good Futurama episode is better than 90% of television"...sure, That's Lobstertainment is weak, but it's still filled with golden moments. I'm a huge Harold Lloyd fan, and that original old-timey sketch is a wonderful tribute. Hank Azaria also gives a very funny vocal performance, really nice. I don't skip the episode when I do my, er, bi-monthly Futurama rewatchings.

But I came here to bring up a controversial, sexy, and possibly off-topic point: I do not understand the fan hate for Bend Her. Lurking in the forums, I've come across many complaints about the episode...and to me, it's an incredible episode. Zany and off the wall, sure, but filled with enough incredible one-liners to run a...one-liner farm (oh jeez, work with me here people).

So I've gotta know, is the Bend Her hate a "eh, it just wasn't funny"? Or was it more of a "destroying Bender's character" or "the tone was all wrong" or just general anti-Robonia sentiment. I'm dying to know, fellow Futurama nerds. 
DotheBartman

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« Reply #627 on: 07-07-2011 09:09 »


But I came here to bring up a controversial, sexy, and possibly off-topic point: I do not understand the fan hate for Bend Her. Lurking in the forums, I've come across many complaints about the episode...and to me, it's an incredible episode. Zany and off the wall, sure, but filled with enough incredible one-liners to run a...one-liner farm (oh jeez, work with me here people).

So I've gotta know, is the Bend Her hate a "eh, it just wasn't funny"? Or was it more of a "destroying Bender's character" or "the tone was all wrong" or just general anti-Robonia sentiment. I'm dying to know, fellow Futurama nerds.  

Some of the criticism I've seen elsewhere - which does make some sense to me - is that it's a bit too predictable and "easy" since there are already a lot of plots in movies or TV shows about a guy pretending to be a woman (or occasionally the other way around), and the comic mishaps involved in that. And always with lots of jokes based on gender stereotypes (he used a coaster!).

That said, I actually agree with you and think it's a completely awesome episode, so I've never quite gotten the hate for it. The HumorBot 5.0 scene alone has more laughs than, I dunno, any episode of How I Met Your Mother. It's not a top ten episode or anything, but I always love it whenever I watch it.
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« Reply #628 on: 07-07-2011 11:41 »

"Bend Her" is actually a top-25-ish episode for me. It's just consistently laugh-out-loud funny ("Men love it when you really glob it on"; all of Bender's misconceptions about womanhood amuse me so), and the absurdity of it all (including both pretending to be a woman to win gold medals (which are all Bender has to remember his Olympic career), and the soap opera ending) just works for me. It's actually one of the few episodes where I really enjoy Bender's antics. It's neat how loving Calculon actually humanizes him a bit (and it's also creepy. But that's how I like my character growth!).
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« Reply #629 on: 07-07-2011 15:15 »
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"That's Lobstertainment" is no longer the worst episode of Futurama in my opinion -- it's been bumped to second worst by "Ghosts in the Machine".

The reason why I dislike it is because it relies too much on the one-note joke about how pathetic and poor Dr. Zoidberg is. Jokes about Zoidberg being a terrible doctor and poor and lonely are really funny, but in small doses; it was a mistake to (more or less) base an entire episode on Zoidberg being pathetic.

What makes it worse is that an older, carbon copy of Zoidberg is introduced, Harold Zoid; and he's worse because he's so mean-spirited and exploitative.

I also didn't like Zoidberg, Harold Zoid, and Bender being Hollywood phonies.

This episode had some funny parts, such as the "silent hologram" movie, Zoid's terrible movie, and the Jack Nicholson gorilla. However, this episode was miserable to watch, which sullied its few good parts.

I usually skip this episode when I watch my Futurama DVDs. Occassionally I'll watch it with the audio commentary on to hear the writer of the episode acknowledge that it's considered the worst episode by the fans, and him read his notes criticizing his own work. I suspect the reason why I can tolerate it is because the audio commentary drowns out most of what I hate about this episode.

Those are the reasons why I consider "That's Lobstertainment" to be the worst episode in the original run of Futurama.
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« Reply #630 on: 07-07-2011 15:23 »

The reason why I dislike it is because it relies too much on the one-note joke about how pathetic and poor Dr. Zoidberg is. Jokes about Zoidberg being a terrible doctor and poor and lonely are really funny, but in small doses; it was a mistake to (more or less) base an entire episode on Zoidberg being pathetic.

Very valid. I don't really like any part of the A-plot except seeing parts of the terrible movie at the end, which is funny. But I no longer really feel hatred towards the episode. I don't know what to direct my hatred to anymore. Possibly Neutopia, but I laughed so hard during the Plan Am flight that I can't really discredit that one either.

I haven't seen Bend Her in a while either, but I don't really have any passionate feelings either way about it.
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« Reply #631 on: 07-07-2011 17:14 »

I haven't updated my stance on worst episode ever since season 6A aired... so here we are. The 10 worst episodes ever, in my opinion:

10. That's Lobstertainment!
9. Into the Wild Green Yonder: Part 2
8. The Route of All Evil
7. Where the Buggalo Roam
6. Bend Her
5. A Leela of Her Own
4. The Cryonic Woman
3. The Futurama Holiday Spectacular
2. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
1. Attack of the Killer App
flesheatingbull

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« Reply #632 on: 07-07-2011 17:25 »

i could never compile such as list, as that is pure EVIL. i do have a list of episodes that i'll only watch with the commentary, though.

rebirth
attack of the killer crap
proposition infinity

that is all. as for the rest, i don't have a favorite or worst. i enjoy them all.
Gorky

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« Reply #633 on: 07-07-2011 17:28 »

i could never compile such as list, as that is pure EVIL.

Hey, you can't spell "pure evil" without "PEEL."

Also, I don't have episodes that I flat-out hate, but those that leave me utterly underwhelmed and have never merited more than a rewatch or two are all from season three: "That's Lobstertainment!", "Where the Buggalo Roam," and "A Pharaoh to Remember." I consider those episodes more boring than flat-out bad, and in honesty I haven't seen them in a long while, so I might be exaggerating how dull they are.
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« Reply #634 on: 07-07-2011 17:28 »
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The Futurama Holiday Spectacular  hmpf
I refuse to accept that this episode even exists.
The Cryonic Woman,
A Leela of Her Own
GodFellas
Where the Buggalo roam
A Tatse of Freedom
The Duh Vinci Code
and a few other newer ones I can't think of....

Everyone hates That's Lobstertainment?! I still don't know why.. I'm not a big fan of Zoidberg but its pretty funny. I think I stated before that one of the reasons I liked it was because of all the jokes about the entertainment industry, and filming etc. I guess I only find this funny because I work on TV and Movies and live in LA. It's definitely not one of my favs, but not as bad as everyone says...
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« Reply #635 on: 07-07-2011 17:36 »

GodFella's

Say whhaaaaaat?!
AdrenalinDragon

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« Reply #636 on: 07-07-2011 17:43 »

As of July 2011:

10. In-A-Gadda-Da-Leela
9. The Route Of All Evil
8. A Leela Of Her Own
7. That's Lobstertainment!
6. A Taste Of Freedom
5. Where The Buggalo Roam
4. Kif Gets Knocked Up A Notch
3. That Darn Katz!
2. Attack Of The Killer App
1. The Futurama Holiday Spectacular
cyber_turnip

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« Reply #637 on: 07-07-2011 17:48 »


I've never quite understood why this episode is as beloved as it is, myself. It has a lot of good going for it, but I've always found it quite dull and that it doesn't really feel like a satisfying whole. It's not even close to being one of my least favourite episodes, but I could understand how someone might feel that way.


I should point out that I don't hate any of the episodes on my list particularly. I get some enjoyment out of the bottom 3 and I flat-out like 10-4, they're just my 10 least favourite episodes.
Gorky

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« Reply #638 on: 07-07-2011 17:52 »

"Godfellas" is among my favorite episodes, but that's mostly because it does such a good job with making Bender, who is in many ways the least sympathetic character in the show, very believable and likable and downright human. The stuff about religion is done with a light touch, like a pickpocket or a safe-cracker, and it never feels preachy; most Very Special Episodes that deal with religion tend to be overwrought and boring, but "Godfellas" is easily one of the funniest, cleverest episodes of the series.

Of course, that's just my godlike humble opinion.
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« Reply #639 on: 07-07-2011 18:18 »

In regards to GodFellas: It used to be my least favorite, but after watching it more, I would say it's not as bad as the other ones I listed. I like the idea of it and that Bender gets to experience what it's like to be God, and even meet God...but it's just so slow, and drags on. And it's really not very funny compared to other episodes. The parts where Bender is watching his little world evolve are just boring to me, and that's almost the entire episode.
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