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i_c_weiner
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SorynArkayn, through this page you have lost all credibility in the eyes of PEEL. You've attacked people, called them over-sensitive dumbass dudes, when they're just trying to help you and get you to calm down. You're not engaging in a debate, you're fling poop and calling names. Whenever anybody is the first to resort to calling names, they're the one who has lost the argument.
In response to Amy, I think Harold Zoid is offset by Calculon and Bender. And he's voiced by Hank Azaria! So much more win over Sarah Silverman.
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SorynArkayn
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SorynArkayn, through this page you have lost all credibility in the eyes of PEEL. You've attacked people, called them over-sensitive dumbass dudes, when they're just trying to help you and get you to calm down. You're not engaging in a debate, you're fling poop and calling names. Whenever anybody is the first to resort to calling names, they're the one who has lost the argument. Of course it's all my fault. I call someone a dumb ass once and that somehow justifies all the insults and profanity directed against me? And that "insult" wasn't intended as a personal attack, it was simply a flippant remark, which was justified under the circumstances. Someone criticizing an antogonist character for being "unlikeable" is like criticizing a comedian for being funny; it's stupid; hence, the justifiable reason I called whoever it was a dumb ass. go fuck a squirrel That's what your side of this argument has devolved to. So by your "logic", I've won this argument ten times over by now. As for "losing all credibility in the eyes of PEEL", WTF is that even supposed to mean? And why would a care about my "credibility" or "reputation" to a posse of obstinate imbeciles who consider "go fuck yourself" to be a reasonable rubuttal. ---------------- Considering that this thread is supposed to be about "That's Lobstertainment" -- which I've stated from the beginning is my least favourite episode, and technically makes it the "worst" (although the worst for Futurama is still pretty good) -- but so many people here have commented on "The Cyronic Woman", maybe someone should make a similar thread about that episode. If my "opponents" are willing to abandon their junvenile insults, hit the reset button, and discuss their opinions of the episode civilly, I'd be happy to participate. Because barring specific examples of what exactly other people didn't like about the episode (other than Pauly Shore), I can't think of any part of the episode that would justify it being, apparently, one of the most disliked episodes of Futurama.
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Nutmeg1729
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obstinate imbeciles I fail to see how anyone here could possibly fall under the category of an imbecile. As clearly stated before, you were the first person in here to resort to petty name calling, and whatever pathetic justification you have for it doesn't necessarily count, as the other members were purely leading on from your example. One instance of name calling is enough to warrant other people resorting to the same techniques, as the person who originally used that method of arguing clearly has little enough intelligence that the jibes are then pretty much warranted. You're clearly a somewhat intelligent individual, but you're severly underestimating the people on this board, and to be perfectly honest, I don't see you providing screengrabs and dissections of text to provide reasons why you hate "That's Lobstertainment" so much, yet you expect other members to do the same for their least favourite episode. For one, you're being a total hypocrite, and for two, shut the fuck up. The cryonic woman is - almost unanimously - one of the most disliked episodes of the original run of Futurama, and why, because overall it's a bad episode. Bad guest stars, a plot that could have been well done, but completely failed with the ending, amongst several other things, which I could list if I had the time to be bothering with someone as up their own arse as you are. I am well aware that I might not be making any sense here, but you know what, you're annoying. Therefore, I don't care.
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Svip
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According to CGEF, it's "A Leela of Her Own" that is the least liked Futurama episode. And no one has mentioned this? Is it that bad? That you won't even mention it?!
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Svip
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You crazy, man, you crazy.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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« Reply #334 on: 06-30-2010 14:36 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2010 14:38 »
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A Leela Of Her Own is quite an acceptable episode with some great jokes, like the plug in black square sensor, and Bender adding zeroes onto things. Also his line asking when will people learn that all races are inferior to robots. It's a below average ep sure, but it's not bad in my opinion. A lot better than That's Lobsertainment, which I only really liked the Snow White and the 7Ups joke much. As for Cryonic Woman, the first half is excellent, if a little stupid in places, then again it's Futurama. The second half was hit and miss, but the end result was disappointment, especially considering it was the last episode of Season 2 and ended with Fry going through a trapdoor. It's funny that both That's Lobstertainment and The Cryonic Woman have Hollywood in them, and they both go downhill when they get there...
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Gorky
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I actually really like "A Leela of Her Own"; it is by no means the strongest episode of the season or the series, and it takes away some of the craziness and fun associated with blernsball in "Fear of a Bot Planet"--but it's definitely a passable episode. I think it's plenty funny (the Cygnoids in particular are great, but there are a lot of other moments I enjoy, like Fry being too nervous to pat Leela on the butt now that she's a professional blersball player, and recording the bean commercial), and Hank Aaron's guest spot isn't cloying and nonsensical (like Pauly Shore's in "The Cryonic Woman"...but I'll get to that episode in a bit). I get why people don't care for the episode, but it definitely isn't the biggest clunker in season three (a season that, perhaps by virtue of it being the longest one, has more below-average episodes than seasons one, two, and four, in my opinion).
"The Cryonic Woman", meanwhile, is a really great episode for the first two acts. The crew being fired and the return of the career chips (I love Fry's blank expression as Leela explains them to him), and then Leela having to do Fry's old job while he and Bender are stuck with hers. (I agree with Jezzem: that part of the episode feels like a sequel to "Space Pilot 3000", and that's kind of neat.)
To me, that role-reversal alone would have been material enough to sustain a whole episode. But then the writers decide to introduce Michelle (unlike others here, I like Sarah Silverman, and thought she did a fine job with the character; it's not her fault that the character herself is annoying--you can blame that on how she's written)--but the episode still doesn't quite go downhill. She gives us this nice little story about how life went on after Fry was frozen, and it's kind of interesting; for a moment, maybe you think the episode is going to take the direction of Fry-being-frozen-was-the-best-thing-to-ever-happen-to-him--maybe throw us another flashback, give us some more insight into Fry (granted, "The Luck of the Fryrish" accomplishes this quite well, and is only four episodes away; I can understand why the writers didn't want to make this the Flashback Episode). Michelle says it herself, that Fry fits in in the future and she doesn't--and Leela has that insightful line, that Fry probably fits in now because he didn't fit in back in the twentieth century. So the episode really does have the potential, at this point, to be more of a character study, to explore the future through Michelle's eyes as SP3K did through Fry's eyes.
But that's not how the episode goes. It takes this random twist in act three, with Michelle and Fry winding up in what they think is a post-apocalyptic world. There are some decent jokes (Fry standing on a gopher, the king's girlfriend lording things over Michelle, Michelle wanting to have a long boring talk about their relationship), but there is nothing to anchor the episode from that point on, because Michelle is an unlikeable character and Fry isn't doing anything about it.
So I think that "The Cryonic Woman" isn't so much an awful episode as it is an exercise in wasted potential: it could have been a much more resonant episode, a great way to end season two--but there are too many missteps (and let's not forget the ever-annoying Pauly Shore) to elevate the episode to anything but okay, not great: a C+ at best.
As for "That's Lobstertainment!"--I consider it on the same playing field as "A Pharaoh to Remember." It's an episode that I never rewatch, because it bores me, but I'm pretty sure I imagine it to be worse in my head than it is in actuality. I'll have more to say about it if and when I watch it again.
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transgender nerd under canada
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« Reply #338 on: 06-30-2010 16:43 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2010 16:45 by totalnerduk »
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go fuck a squirrel That's what your side of this argument has devolved to. So by your "logic", I've won this argument ten times over by now.
I never said anything about argument or debating tactics. That was weiner. I've just been telling you to go fuck yourself. Or a squirrel. Or your grandmother. Go fuck your grandmother. See? Nothing in there about who wins or loses. If you go fuck your grandmother, it might be counted as a win for her. Now go fuck your grandmother.
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Svip
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See? Nothing in there about who wins or loses. If you go fuck your grandmother, it might be counted as a win for her.
There are no winners in war.
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Svip
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I think it is because most non-Americans don't get the whole baseball appeal. I, for one, don't. Baseball seems rather uninteresting to me. As does all sports.
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i_c_weiner
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well golly that's a lot of words up there i bet someone cares. anyway i really liked lobstertainment since it's got a lot of classic movie references and shit and i like that shit and also zoidberg
You expressed your point so eloquently, but at least you're not hating on it. Lovely.
Just lovely.
At least he expressed his point more eloquently then... go fuck a squirrel That's what your side of this argument has devolved to. So by your "logic", I've won this argument ten times over by now.
As for "losing all credibility in the eyes of PEEL", WTF is that even supposed to mean? And why would a care about my "credibility" or "reputation" to a posse of obstinate imbeciles who consider "go fuck yourself" to be a reasonable rubuttal.
False. Lrn2read. I said that the first person to resort to name calling was the one who loses. Also, if you didn't care about your credibility or reputation on a "posse of obstinate imbeciles", then why do you continue to argue with us and try to win the argument? Obviously if we were too idiotic to hand such verbose ideas as yours, you would give up. Lrn2logic. Whoever should opened this topic, perhaps the title could change to "Worst Futurama Episode" ?
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SorynArkayn
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"A Leela Of Her Own Own" is also one of my least favourite episodes, but I would only classify is as a "bad episode" when compared to all of the other episodes of Futurama. It's still watchable. I'd rather watch it again than most of this past season's episodes of The Simpsons of Family Guy, and any episode of the The Cleveland Show.
I had stopped being a baseball fan when this episode aired, so I was indifferent to it being an episode about baseball. However, I recognized some of the references in the episode, such as "The Natural" and that Mean Joe Green commercial. I don't know whether or not "The Rookie" was any inspiration for this episode, because of how Leela was a pitcher, but instead of being good, she only beans players.
I didn't like the "ethnic humour" about the Cygnoids or their disgusting pizza -- but I did love the joke at the beginning of the episode when Leela tells Fry that the wall of the strip club isn't going to collapse twice in one day; it was a funny and clever explanation for why Fry is staring out the window with binoculars, which is kind of the inciting incident of the story.
I fully understand why most people rank this episode with "That's Lobstertainment" as the "worst" episodes of Futurama, but I don't hate this episode as some other people do.
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Sun-Wukong
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One specific line in ALOHO always gets me. "Mmm, Wad Boggs, gos down smooth."
The joke in the commentary about Hank Arron reading it was nice too. Also, Mr. Belvedere naked, *shudder*.
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