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FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #720 on: 10-06-2009 21:33 »
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It's not unusual to wake up after a crash not remembering the actual crash. I don't think they'll just say no-one remember. It wouldn't work. As I said before I wouldn't mind Fry and Leela dating for a while... perhaps realising it doesn't work and breaking up.

The only people who could mess up F/L's relationship to the point of break-up would be the writers (and I sincerely believe they're too talented for that). Breaking them up would make every episode and moment between them before utterly irrelevant. What would have been to point of all that if they aren't willing to do something with it? There is no way they'd mess up like that.
Was that what you said after Fry and Amy broke up? Everything doesn't have to be part of the bigger story. What was the point of Fry's hands being eaten by a dinosaur? Or Bender being possessed by a Werecar when he turned out allright in the end? It's called status quo. smile

No, but none of those things are long-running storylines. Fry and Leela's romance has been an integral part of their relationship since the beginning. I mean, in S1/2 it was more of a cute idea, but S3/4/"5" definitely pushed it to the forefront.

Breaking them up would be a disservice to all the fans who have stuck by it, to the characters who it's an important part of, and an admission of the writers that they aren't talented enough to make it work (which I don't believe).
lilkitten29

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« Reply #721 on: 10-06-2009 22:05 »

I think the only right thing to do is to make Fry and Leela start dating.
Aki

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« Reply #722 on: 10-06-2009 22:15 »

I don't think they would work as a couple for at least a few more years. Deep within Leela loves Fry, but feels he is too immature. But then again perhaps in a few years, as proven possible by the whole Lars saga in Bender's Big Score... that's what I meant by having them date for a while and then break up, because I really don't think it would work in reality.
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« Reply #723 on: 10-06-2009 22:25 »

lilkitten29

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« Reply #724 on: 10-06-2009 22:27 »

I don't want this 'will they won't they?' thing anymore. It's going to get stale and boring. Besides, they're obviously made for eachother. smile
MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #725 on: 10-06-2009 22:29 »



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FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #726 on: 10-06-2009 22:32 »

I don't think they would work as a couple for at least a few more years. Deep within Leela loves Fry, but feels he is too immature. But then again perhaps in a few years, as proven possible by the whole Lars saga in Bender's Big Score... that's what I meant by having them date for a while and then break up, because I really don't think it would work in reality.

A few more years? Were the 4 TV seasons and 9 years within the shows continuity (and real life existence) not enough!? Seriously, Fry and Leela, with Fry pining over Leela, has been played out. We've all had enough of it. Stories to tell there are no longer interesting and breaking them up would nullify the previous years of development and kill even the most die-hard shippers hopes (what would be the point of caring if the writers don't?), so it's time to move on.

ITWGY's ending is the first step toward a real relationship, and from the bits let on by Cohen, it'll be an integral part of the first episode of the season (along with that Time Travel episode). I'm sure the reason you're against it is because of some lack of faith in the writers to make it entertaining and not sickening. To that I say "Have some freaking faith!".
Jezzem

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« Reply #727 on: 10-06-2009 22:37 »

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Eeehhh whaaaa??

You colour that yourself?

That was traced and coloured by Freako from a frame grab of the sneak preview of the new episode.

There's some shameless plugging for you, Freako. You're welcome.
lilkitten29

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« Reply #728 on: 10-06-2009 22:39 »

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MightyBooshFan91

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« Reply #729 on: 10-06-2009 22:40 »

That was traced and coloured by Freako from a frame grab of the sneak preview of the new episode.

There's some shameless plugging for you, Freako. You're welcome.

Ah cool...that makes it more real seeing it in colour like that...
Gorky

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« Reply #730 on: 10-06-2009 22:40 »

As far as Matt Groening goes, I think he's a funny guy with a good sense of "Hey, a cartoon can be more than just funny drawings; we should really care about these characters"; however, I'm an unabashed DXC fangirl, and I believe that he understands the show even more than MG does. He recognizes its potential, and understands the appeal of the characters (and the ship), and tries to make the stories as rich as possible. So, yeah. I don't think that MG is a negative influence on the show, but I certainly think that he's a bit out-of-touch when it comes to what the fans want (as nice a story as it is, I think it's kind of sad that a woman at a convention had to pull Groening aside and beg for Fry and Leela to get together at the end of ItWGY before they could resolve the debate in the writers' room).

And as far as the premiere goes, I don't think any character's memory is going to be wiped completely. As others have mentioned, Fry only seemed a bit fuzzy on what happened right before entering the wormhole (and Farnsworth caught him up with that whole "We were fugitives, you and Leela got your smooch on, we put these bubbles on our heads, crash crash boom" spiel); I think it's safe to assume that the same will apply to the rest of the currently disembodied crewmembers. The cynic in me could see the writers conveniently giving Leela selective amnesia of the I-don't-remember-professing-my-love-to-(and-kissing)-Fry variety, but I'm trying to remain optimistic. I mean, the writers know that they'll piss off a considerable portion of the fanbase if they hit that reset button yet again.
Tedward

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« Reply #731 on: 10-06-2009 23:55 »

Yes, DXC does seem like he has a good grip on the show's potential, and he seems to have been able to steer it fairly well, but it is up to all of the writers to really make things work. I don't mean to be ungrateful or demanding; after all, they are the ones making the show, and I would assume they know what they're doing. It's just that we as fans of course want the show to be the best it can be, and thanks to the brilliant writing that has come before we have glimpsed what we hope becomes a standard of excellence for the show. I know they can do it.

The cynic in me could see the writers conveniently giving Leela selective amnesia of the I-don't-remember-professing-my-love-to-(and-kissing)-Fry variety, but I'm trying to remain optimistic. I mean, the writers know that they'll piss off a considerable portion of the fanbase if they hit that reset button yet again.

Not only would it be inredibly awful for that to happen, but the selective amnesia has also been done before (in "Time Keeps on Slipping")! I'm just expressing the sentiments of pretty much everyone else, but there have been enough resets already. That sort of thing really can't happen again.

Whilst that feeling can be rather annoying (we all certainly had it after the first cancellation) I'd much rather take that than the actual knowledge that it's gone stale.

Sure, most would yearn for just one last adventure to see the much loved characters in all their glory but at least when you look back over the series from beginning to end you'd know that it was a journey to be savoured throughout.

And that's what I'd rather have as well. I mean, I was sad that Futurama had to end after "The Devil's Hands Are Idle Playthings," but that was a great episode and a touching way to end the series, and I did indeed value the show's run as much as I could. I'm eager to be able to value the new episodes just as much.
Aki

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« Reply #732 on: 10-07-2009 00:05 »

I don't think they would work as a couple for at least a few more years. Deep within Leela loves Fry, but feels he is too immature. But then again perhaps in a few years, as proven possible by the whole Lars saga in Bender's Big Score... that's what I meant by having them date for a while and then break up, because I really don't think it would work in reality.

A few more years? Were the 4 TV seasons and 9 years within the shows continuity (and real life existence) not enough!? Seriously, Fry and Leela, with Fry pining over Leela, has been played out. We've all had enough of it. Stories to tell there are no longer interesting and breaking them up would nullify the previous years of development and kill even the most die-hard shippers hopes (what would be the point of caring if the writers don't?), so it's time to move on.

ITWGY's ending is the first step toward a real relationship, and from the bits let on by Cohen, it'll be an integral part of the first episode of the season (along with that Time Travel episode). I'm sure the reason you're against it is because of some lack of faith in the writers to make it entertaining and not sickening. To that I say "Have some freaking faith!".
Ah! No no no! Please don't get me wrong! I did NOT mean I want the whole Fry-Leela thing to go on "for a few more years". What I meant was that how I see them, as real persons, they would not work until Fry has matured (becoming Lars) - and I believe that that is a change that would take many years. And the day Fry is replaced by Lars... is truly the day of Futurama to me. It would be really boring. I really want an end to the F/L-thing, but I can't see one that makes them happy together and still doesn't go outside of their borders as characters.

Freako

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« Reply #733 on: 10-07-2009 00:09 »

*pic*

Eeehhh whaaaa??

You colour that yourself?

That was traced and coloured by Freako from a frame grab of the sneak preview of the new episode.

There's some shameless plugging for you, Freako. You're welcome.

I'll just post the rest here for the non link clickers.


CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #734 on: 10-07-2009 00:28 »

It's not unusual to wake up after a crash not remembering the actual crash. I don't think they'll just say no-one remember. It wouldn't work. As I said before I wouldn't mind Fry and Leela dating for a while... perhaps realising it doesn't work and breaking up.

The only people who could mess up F/L's relationship to the point of break-up would be the writers (and I sincerely believe they're too talented for that). Breaking them up would make every episode and moment between them before utterly irrelevant. What would have been to point of all that if they aren't willing to do something with it? There is no way they'd mess up like that.
Was that what you said after Fry and Amy broke up? Everything doesn't have to be part of the bigger story. What was the point of Fry's hands being eaten by a dinosaur? Or Bender being possessed by a Werecar when he turned out allright in the end? It's called status quo. smile

No, but none of those things are long-running storylines. Fry and Leela's romance has been an integral part of their relationship since the beginning. I mean, in S1/2 it was more of a cute idea, but S3/4/"5" definitely pushed it to the forefront.

Breaking them up would be a disservice to all the fans who have stuck by it, to the characters who it's an important part of, and an admission of the writers that they aren't talented enough to make it work (which I don't believe).

I agree. The Fry/Leela storyline is the very heart of Futurama. The show shouldn't dwell on it exclusively or to excess, of course; but it shouldn't play too many games with it either.

I think the reset button can be pushed - it all depends on HOW it's done. Maybe Fry's focus could be on getting Leela to remember what she said to him, and how far their relationship had progressed. Leela's too logical, honest and straightforward to pretend that she remembers something she didn't, at least not something so momentous and potentially life-changing. So Fry does indeed have to woo her all over again, in a way; instead of Fry wanting to "make Leela love me" as in the prior series, maybe it'll be "make Leela remember" in this new one.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #735 on: 10-07-2009 00:32 »

I don't want this 'will they won't they?' thing anymore. It's going to get stale and boring. Besides, they're obviously made for eachother. smile

For my part, I completely understand people's worries about the Leela/Fry thing getting stale. But on the other hand...watching that goofball slacker, who's usually so scatterbrained, focus for once on something he really wants and going to absurd lengths to get it was so much fun to watch! I think I'd kinda miss it if it stopped...the only substitute is if Fry and Leela started dating, but Fry is still jealous and possessive (in a funny, not scary, way). That way there would still be that angst that transfigured Fry so much, and made him such a great character.

Whew! It's a puzzle, I admit. I wish the writers of Futurama luck with it. Other shows have fumbled with the same sort of situation, while others have handled it magnificently. I have faith in the writers of Futurama. At the very least, they've got guts.
CookiesOnTheFloor
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« Reply #736 on: 10-07-2009 00:36 »

I don't think they would work as a couple for at least a few more years. Deep within Leela loves Fry, but feels he is too immature. But then again perhaps in a few years, as proven possible by the whole Lars saga in Bender's Big Score... that's what I meant by having them date for a while and then break up, because I really don't think it would work in reality.

A few more years? Were the 4 TV seasons and 9 years within the shows continuity (and real life existence) not enough!? Seriously, Fry and Leela, with Fry pining over Leela, has been played out. We've all had enough of it. Stories to tell there are no longer interesting and breaking them up would nullify the previous years of development and kill even the most die-hard shippers hopes (what would be the point of caring if the writers don't?), so it's time to move on.

ITWGY's ending is the first step toward a real relationship, and from the bits let on by Cohen, it'll be an integral part of the first episode of the season (along with that Time Travel episode). I'm sure the reason you're against it is because of some lack of faith in the writers to make it entertaining and not sickening. To that I say "Have some freaking faith!".
Ah! No no no! Please don't get me wrong! I did NOT mean I want the whole Fry-Leela thing to go on "for a few more years". What I meant was that how I see them, as real persons, they would not work until Fry has matured (becoming Lars) - and I believe that that is a change that would take many years. And the day Fry is replaced by Lars... is truly the day of Futurama to me. It would be really boring. I really want an end to the F/L-thing, but I can't see one that makes them happy together and still doesn't go outside of their borders as characters.



Ohhh...I get you. You're saying that Fry might want Leela's love with all his heart, but his personality keeps getting in the way of their really coming together. Kinda like his "stupid fingers" couldn't play the holophoner the way he wanted them to so he could win Leela's over. Well, he is a klutz. I see your point...
Jezzem

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« Reply #737 on: 10-07-2009 00:48 »

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« Reply #738 on: 10-07-2009 00:52 »

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Go-a-Green-a

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« Reply #739 on: 10-07-2009 00:59 »

Alright, I have a radical thought, and it may alienate me a little, but I've got to get this off my chest: I don't know how to feel about Matt Groening!

Here's what I mean. Some of Matt's recent decisions with the show have brought me up and down so much that I'm not sure what his contributing vision is or even if it's good for the series.

First, he pushed for the pairing off of Fry and Leela at the end of ITWGY. Up. Then, once the series was renewed, we learn that he now thought they had stuck themselves in a corner. Down. Then we learn that he wanted to forget about the Wormhole business altogether, rather than resolve it. Down.

Initially, going against David X.'s proposed "Alternate Universe Zoo" storyline brought me down. I thought that was a perfect way to bring back the series. But actually, Matt's "rebirth" idea is growing on me, since it's a darkly perfect way to bring back the series. I mean, I was as shocked and interested as everybody else when I saw the footage. As much as I like it, David's story would have been just another episode where Matt's has the potential to do as it's proposed title suggests: Rebirth the series. Up.

Finally, as much potential as it has, it's a little strange. Matt wanted to just get back to the series, but then he pitches a story (or story concept) that it's even more radical and requires even more care than X.'s!? What's with this guy!? There stems my fear that Matt still doesn't want to invest any time into the episode and it will have been a wasted concept.

Why such a change? This episode literally might be the most important episode the series has ever had (and will likely still be till a finale). They can't just shrug any of it's subject matter off. It has to be handled with the most delicate of care, because this episode is the one that will represent what the writers will do with the second return us fans have given them. It's the first taste, and I want that taste to be amazing.

Matt's earlier reservations make me worry whether he's for that, whether he understands how important this little show he half came up with really is to its fans. I really hope he does.

Up? Down? I don't know.

Oh thank God I'm not the only one who feels that way! MG does have some good ideas but it also seems like he's been thinking a little too much like he does for The Simpsons where he usualy just hits the reset button after every episode. You CANNOT do that with Futurama because if you do you're going to end up with alot of pissed off fans (and not just shippers). There is quite a few episodes that connect with the other episodes and if you just hit the reset button you miss out on tons of plotlines that could connect with the first.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #740 on: 10-07-2009 01:17 »

Ah! No no no! Please don't get me wrong! I did NOT mean I want the whole Fry-Leela thing to go on "for a few more years". What I meant was that how I see them, as real persons, they would not work until Fry has matured (becoming Lars) - and I believe that that is a change that would take many years. And the day Fry is replaced by Lars... is truly the day of Futurama to me. It would be really boring. I really want an end to the F/L-thing, but I can't see one that makes them happy together and still doesn't go outside of their borders as characters.

Alright, first things first, I'll tell you right now, I don't like Lars, and I never did. Maybe I might have changed my tune had he had any effect on the characters past BBS, but he didn't (writers fault), so I don't.

So with that in mind, Fry doesn't have to become Lars to get with Leela. It wouldn't work for the show anyway. Lars is a one-shot what-if character, meant to show Leela that Fry could be the guy she wanted, that he could take a relationship seriously. He wouldn't work as a full blown character (as you seem to worry they'd convert Fry into) since he lacks much of Fry's personality precisely because the story demanded it. He's not meant to be a future look at Fry or even an alternate look at Fry. He's more of a message to Leela, to prove to her that Fry is the guy she wants. Later, in ITWGY, when Fry once again showed her how much he cared for her (adding in BBS and everything he did in the series), she realized her feelings were true and admitted her love of him to him.

You need to have faith that the writers are far more imaginative than you (or any of us) are. They'll figure out how to do it. ITWGY is definitely the example to build off of, since that's the best Fry and Leela's relationship has ever been handled (mutual, cute, not making me want to gag). There is so many more stories available with F/L dating than there are with Fry pining for Leela (played out) or them not even close to each other (boring, lifeless).

They are not going to change for the worse because they are in a relationship. Have you checked out the Farnsworth Parabox lately? Is Fry 1 not still acting goofy and fun? Is not Leela 1 not still capable of killing a man with a flick of her wrist? Come on, the alternate, married couple F/L were totally a good sign that the writers have a handle of how to work our F/L together. They weren't some sick "I wuv you, I wuv you too!" version of the characters, they were simply Fry and Leela together. They complimented each other.

Seriously, have some faith man!
Gorky

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« Reply #741 on: 10-07-2009 04:25 »

I think the reset button can be pushed - it all depends on HOW it's done. Maybe Fry's focus could be on getting Leela to remember what she said to him, and how far their relationship had progressed. Leela's too logical, honest and straightforward to pretend that she remembers something she didn't, at least not something so momentous and potentially life-changing. So Fry does indeed have to woo her all over again, in a way; instead of Fry wanting to "make Leela love me" as in the prior series, maybe it'll be "make Leela remember" in this new one.

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. You'd really just be replacing unrequited love with requited-but-forgotten love. Any denial on Leela's part of what she said--assuming she remembers it (and, really, it'd be a pretty big cop-out for her to just conveniently forget those "I love you"s)--will just destroy the sincerity of that moment in ItWGY, and return Leela to this "Fry's too immature; I'll never date him" stasis that she's been in since, let's say, "Parasites Lost." Her admission of her feelings at the end of ItWGY was such a big step for her character--it showed a lot of growth--and to just wipe it out won't cut it for me.

And, from a storytelling point of view, Fry will quickly devolve into a whiny child if he's forced, episode after episode, to try to convince Leela that she said she loved him; at least when he was trying to make her love him (a choice of words I'm not particularly fond of, but which nevertheless popped up in the series a few times), his goal was a bit more noble and less, y'know, annoying.
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« Reply #742 on: 10-07-2009 07:32 »

Please don't triple post, Cookies.

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Sorry. I'm still getting the hang of this board. I don't post on the 'net very much.

I think the reset button can be pushed - it all depends on HOW it's done. Maybe Fry's focus could be on getting Leela to remember what she said to him, and how far their relationship had progressed. Leela's too logical, honest and straightforward to pretend that she remembers something she didn't, at least not something so momentous and potentially life-changing. So Fry does indeed have to woo her all over again, in a way; instead of Fry wanting to "make Leela love me" as in the prior series, maybe it'll be "make Leela remember" in this new one.

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. You'd really just be replacing unrequited love with requited-but-forgotten love. Any denial on Leela's part of what she said--assuming she remembers it (and, really, it'd be a pretty big cop-out for her to just conveniently forget those "I love you"s)--will just destroy the sincerity of that moment in ItWGY, and return Leela to this "Fry's too immature; I'll never date him" stasis that she's been in since, let's say, "Parasites Lost." Her admission of her feelings at the end of ItWGY was such a big step for her character--it showed a lot of growth--and to just wipe it out won't cut it for me.

And, from a storytelling point of view, Fry will quickly devolve into a whiny child if he's forced, episode after episode, to try to convince Leela that she said she loved him; at least when he was trying to make her love him (a choice of words I'm not particularly fond of, but which nevertheless popped up in the series a few times), his goal was a bit more noble and less, y'know, annoying.

"Make Leela love me" are Fry's own words, as I'm sure you know. (He can be as unflinchingly straightforward as Leela). But I see your point about the idea of his trying to persuade Leela to remember. However, I do remember reading a Tweet from somebody who attended the Con that said something about Fry having to conquer Leela's heart all over again. Now, I know that's going to annoy a lot of people, if true. But the Futurama crew are calling this a rebirth, so Fry could very well end up having to resume his pursuit of his heart's desire. And..I can't say I'd necessarily be sorry if that happened. I think Aki might have a point about Fry needing to mature a little before Leela would feel ready to commit to him. And for the record, while some might be tired of the chase, I'm not. I've enjoyed it immensely. I'd hate it if Fry and Leela settled down to some of domesticity a la Homer and Marge Simpson. I mean, it'd totally rock if, say, Fry and Leela married on the show's very last episode. But on the other hand, I'd be okay with it if they didn't, as long as their relationship remained intact. The only thing I'd get upset about is if Fry focused his attention elsewhere, say with Amy or something, or if Leela behaved so coldly towards him that it'd make me resent her. But I'm sure the Futurama crew won't let that happen.  If they want to hit the reset button, I'm  interested in seeing where they go from there, FWIW.
FistfulOAwesome

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« Reply #743 on: 10-07-2009 09:06 »

Hold on, Gorks! I've got this one!

Cookies post (you know, the one directly above this one)

Listen, Cooks, what's with this maturity bit that you and Aki are on? The dude's plenty mature. He came to grips with the death of his family, he loves his life and family at PE and clearly appreciates it/them, and he clearly loves Leela. What more do you guys consider maturity? From where I stand, he's a good guy.

As for the chase, there' nothing left there. To have more would detract from the necessary ending that ITWGY gave us. It's been far too long, and I'll say it, the series didn't do as good a job with it as it could have. There weren't enough moments in the between episodes to keep it in mind (at least till S4), the episodes were mostly far  apart (at least till S4), and they didn't even bother to keep enough continuity between most episodes (that reset button must have looked like a big hot dog to the writers). It was good, but not as good as it could have been had the writers given it a bit more thought.

Fry and Leela dating offers a whole host of new stories to be told, new feelings to be experienced that the chase simply doesn't have anymore. Its tired of running, which is good, since it's reached its destination (or quarry or whatever makes sense).

Guys, they are not going to turn into Marge and Homer Simpson. Again, check out The Farnsworth Parabox. There is your version of Fry and Leela together, and they're good. They're still the same Fry and Leela we've always known, just together now. Of course, ours will be dating, so there's all manner of jokes and stories available to tell.

(I hope this isn't going to be my catchphrase, because it's kinda lame) Have some faith.

Also...

The Fry/Leela storyline is the very heart of Futurama.

I've been meaning to say this for a while: I don't believe that Fry and Leela's relationship is the heart of Futurama. I believe it's a ventricle (no specific reason I picked ventricle over atrium or aorta. I just think it's a punchier word). In other words, it's part of the heart.

To me, the heart of Futurama is the family that is Planet Express. When the series began, the crew at PE was merely a set of wacky coworkers. As the series went on, they became something more: a family. These guys have become completely attached to each other.

I love that! It's endeared the characters to me more than if they had stayed coworkers. Hermes loosened up, The Professor started caring if they died, Amy and Leela connected a bit more (if only because they are the only two women who work there (although I like to think that Amy realizes she feels closer to Leela than to her (former?) sorority sisters)), Zoidberg was given some version of friendship and care (I love the numerous times Fry refers to Zoidberg as his friend and Zoidberg's and Hermes relationship (somebody come up with a word for what they are)), Bender and Fry are obvious BFF's, Fry and Leela have their romance, and then there's Scruffy.

I don't know what more to say than it's wonderful! I really look forward to it being kept up in Season 6!
Gorky

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« Reply #744 on: 10-07-2009 12:52 »

Word on the relationships between the characters--and not specificially the Fry/Leela romance--being the heart of the show. If you look at an episode like, say, "Roswell that Ends Well", you can see that the different pairings of characters (Fry and Bender, Leela and Farnsworth) are what really engage you and fuel the jokes (particularly that scene in the appliance store, where Farnsworth bemoans the fact that Leela doesn't cook enough roasts). When the show is maximizing its full potential, it explores the dynamics of the crew while also telling an awesome story (even an episode like "The Sting", for as shippy as it is, shows that the PE crew can be very supportive of one of their own (what with the singing and all)).
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« Reply #745 on: 10-07-2009 15:53 »

After concidering for quite some time, I think it is indeed possible for Leela and Fry to start dating. But heck, they have to do real good for it to work and no destroy the series; and it has to be realistic. It should not be sudden character swings. If they do start dating, I really hope for lots of episodes dealing with their different personalities, and the problem that brings to the relationship. I would prefer this to simply having Leela say "oh, sorry, I was so confused and I didn't know what I was saying". But hell, the Fry-Leela story will not be over just because they start dating. And I agree with Gorky and Cookies that it is indeed a very important part of Futurama, yet not the most important.
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« Reply #746 on: 10-07-2009 19:06 »

@fistfulofawesome
I totally agree with everything you said! I think the show would still be the same with them together, even married. It definitely opens up new possibilities. DXC said at comic con that Fry and Leela's relationship will continue, right? I trust him. I have a lot of faith in the writers, I think it will be great!
Have a little faith! Lol
were back baby!

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« Reply #747 on: 10-07-2009 19:24 »
« Last Edit on: 10-07-2009 19:45 »

Hey guys just thought this would interest you 1st 4 episodes of season 6 plots revealed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krPXycyNaFo

 
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« Reply #748 on: 10-07-2009 19:57 »

Hey guys just thought this would interest you 1st 4 episodes of season 6 plots revealed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krPXycyNaFo
Cool :O I'm really scared about episode four... Amy-Bender relationship? What the heck?
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« Reply #749 on: 10-07-2009 20:02 »

We've already known about those episodes since Comic-Con, but now we know those are the first 4. I wonder if this means that the Time-Travel episode will be in the first half of the season as well, since they apparently only mentioned episodes they already hammered out to some extent.
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« Reply #750 on: 10-07-2009 20:53 »

Can someone tell me what's on the video? It won't work for me....
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« Reply #751 on: 10-07-2009 20:57 »

Can someone tell me what's on the video? It won't work for me....
Hey guys just thought this would interest you 1st 4 episodes of season 6 plots revealed!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krPXycyNaFo
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« Reply #752 on: 10-07-2009 21:08 »

Annnnnd?....
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« Reply #753 on: 10-07-2009 21:18 »

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« Reply #754 on: 10-07-2009 21:34 »
« Last Edit on: 10-07-2009 21:38 »

Regarding the Leela forgetting her 'I love yous' and the whole L/F thing - I think we shouldn't sweat the details. The approximate shape of that character plot arc is pretty much certain, Fry and Leela are all but bound to get together before the end of the series! Lie back and enjoy the 'how' they get together, even if it takes several episodes.

That said, speculation's addictive, so my idle punt is:

1) Fry didn't initially remember things, but needed a prompt from Farnsworth.
2) He'll realise Leela won't remember it immediately either.
3) As our everyman and representative in the show, he'll remember all the 'nearly' moments between him and Leela, and (eventually, just prior to her reanimating - at end of 1st ep?) realise - as we do - that if he tries to convince her that she opened up completely when she can't remember it, this will likely drive her scurrying away again.
4) He'll get a case of the nobles, and decide not to convince her of this. He'll let it slide, and resolve to give up on chasing her.
5) Leela'll be reanimated, give Fry a relatively chaste hug/peck on the cheek as he greets her/fills her in on everything _except_ the 'I love yous', and the episode will end feeling like a repeat of TKoS.
6) The kicker will be Leela really _does_ remember (or comes to remember) all that happened, and she doesn't get why Fry's backing away from it when he seems/says he remembers everything, is hurt/confused, responds by keeping her own distance...

This'll rumble on in the background for a bit, but be resolved about 1/3 of the way through the series, and they'll start slowly becoming an item smile

That's my bet. Sorry if it's an old idea, and for it taking so long to explain.
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« Reply #755 on: 10-07-2009 23:11 »
« Last Edit on: 10-07-2009 23:41 »

Amy and Bender! eek eek eek

(I back to my crazed "I love Bender" fangirl)
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« Reply #756 on: 10-08-2009 00:03 »

Regarding the Leela forgetting her 'I love yous' and the whole L/F thing - I think we shouldn't sweat the details. The approximate shape of that character plot arc is pretty much certain, Fry and Leela are all but bound to get together before the end of the series! Lie back and enjoy the 'how' they get together, even if it takes several episodes.

That said, speculation's addictive, so my idle punt is:

1) Fry didn't initially remember things, but needed a prompt from Farnsworth.
2) He'll realise Leela won't remember it immediately either.
3) As our everyman and representative in the show, he'll remember all the 'nearly' moments between him and Leela, and (eventually, just prior to her reanimating - at end of 1st ep?) realise - as we do - that if he tries to convince her that she opened up completely when she can't remember it, this will likely drive her scurrying away again.
4) He'll get a case of the nobles, and decide not to convince her of this. He'll let it slide, and resolve to give up on chasing her.
5) Leela'll be reanimated, give Fry a relatively chaste hug/peck on the cheek as he greets her/fills her in on everything _except_ the 'I love yous', and the episode will end feeling like a repeat of TKoS.
6) The kicker will be Leela really _does_ remember (or comes to remember) all that happened, and she doesn't get why Fry's backing away from it when he seems/says he remembers everything, is hurt/confused, responds by keeping her own distance...

This'll rumble on in the background for a bit, but be resolved about 1/3 of the way through the series, and they'll start slowly becoming an item smile

That's my bet. Sorry if it's an old idea, and for it taking so long to explain.
i like this idea.
speculation time is fun time smile
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« Reply #757 on: 10-08-2009 00:08 »

But no matter what they always come up with something completely unexpected.

Damn them!
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« Reply #758 on: 10-08-2009 00:40 »
« Last Edit on: 10-08-2009 00:45 »

1) Fry didn't initially remember things, but needed a prompt from Farnsworth.
2) He'll realise Leela won't remember it immediately either.
3) As our everyman and representative in the show, he'll remember all the 'nearly' moments between him and Leela, and (eventually, just prior to her reanimating - at end of 1st ep?) realise - as we do - that if he tries to convince her that she opened up completely when she can't remember it, this will likely drive her scurrying away again.
4) He'll get a case of the nobles, and decide not to convince her of this. He'll let it slide, and resolve to give up on chasing her.
5) Leela'll be reanimated, give Fry a relatively chaste hug/peck on the cheek as he greets her/fills her in on everything _except_ the 'I love yous', and the episode will end feeling like a repeat of TKoS.
6) The kicker will be Leela really _does_ remember (or comes to remember) all that happened, and she doesn't get why Fry's backing away from it when he seems/says he remembers everything, is hurt/confused, responds by keeping her own distance...

Aww... that gets a fuzzy feeling inside of me!

Though initially I was disappointed that Matt Groening was the culprit behind dropping the space zoo idea, and the idea of "rebirth" makes me want to regurgitate seeing what I believe will be a wrinkly pregnant Inez Wong (no grandchild for you, just with-child). I've seemed to have "warmed-up" to this idea, though as disgusting and re-upsetting as it may be, it will be a unique and deep way to present the relationships that the characters share with Fry and Farnsworth, and to somes' chagrin (certainly not mine), will possibly totally blank-out everyone's memories of "Bender's Big Score", so then Lars will psychologically never have come to existence and Nibbler would not be known of his ability to speak (well, save for Fry and the Professor, it may be useful for the both of them to know of the guardian Nibbler really is).
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« Reply #759 on: 10-08-2009 04:27 »

Wait, hold on! Leela+Zapp episode? Is it just me or have they pushed the reset button a little too hard? (Remember, DXC said it would be kind of filthy)
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